* Goswin von Brederlow
| There is also another reason, not mentioned before, for source only
| uploads. It takes way less bandwith to upload a diff.gz+dsc file than
| to upload a big binary package.
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* Teófilo Ruiz Suárez
| What about Apache? Should we change the apache2 package to apache?
No. (Wearing apache & apache2 maintainer hat.)
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my box, for instance. It has a Gbit link, so it's limited by the puny
100Mbit card I have in the box and scp not being able to saturate that
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* Joe Drew
| On Fri, 2003-08-22 at 01:42, Tollef Fog Heen wrote:
| > * Teófilo Ruiz Suárez
| >
| > | What about Apache? Should we change the apache2 package to apache?
| >
| > No. (Wearing apache & apache2 maintainer hat.)
|
| What are the criteria for the apache package
to debian-devel-announce instead of just
debian-devel?
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* Roland Mas
| Tollef Fog Heen (2003-08-23 13:26:20 +0200) :
[...]
| > making pigs fly.
|
| 1. All you need for that is thrust (see Ginger, Mac and Rocky);
| 2. Debian prides itself on its web of thrust;
| 3. therefore the web servers in Debian do provide enough thrust.
|
| ...or a
ven though the only thing you did was to change a
translation), then it's your responsibility to fix that breakage.
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* Christoph Hellwig
| > No need to Cc me, BTW.
|
| Then setup your headers properly..
What's wrong with his headers? The default on Debian mailing lists is
to not Cc posters. Please read the mailing list docs on lists.d.o if
you haven't already.
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(or a small number of
them, if that makes sense) and just have the frontend enable/disable
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sending a response when holding a message.
(The feature is there, it's optional, but after seeing your argument,
I agree that the default should be changed.)
h $0 "$@"
fi
hoping that bash is somewhere in the path.
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params TSRMLS_CC) == SUCCESS &&
retval.type == IS_STRING &&
retval.value.str.len == 32) {
+
+mmcache_make_cache_dir_if_missing();
strncpy(s, MMCG(cache_dir), MAXPATHLEN-1);
strlcat(s, prefix, MAXPATH
and that's that.
Except if you want to use EVMS or similar on /, in which case you need
the evms userspace tools on the initrd. (Using 2.6, that is, in 2.4
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* Mattia Dongili
| - setting the CPUFreq policy must be done as early as possible in the
| boot process (IMHO)
Why? This looks just like an opinion without any rationale.
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://www.planetarytramp.net/bootchart/bootchart-20041210-1934.png,
you will see that it actually is CPU-bound in some places and
I/O-bound in other. S20 runs after about twenty seconds. I really
don't think having your CPU run at full speed for twenty seconds is
going to matter much for
, this is just about the same response I got from upstream when I
asked them about the issue. The solution is of course to get rid of
libdb and use tdb or something equivalent.
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connecting to a terminal server, it will need networking to be up (and
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* Peter Samuelson
| [Tollef Fog Heen]
| > I just stumbled across one issue: it doesn't handle the case where
| > you change your encoding without checking out the repository again:
| >
| > : [EMAIL PROTECTED] ~/svn/trunk > LANG=en_US.UTF-8 svn st
| > svn: Valid
suitable for general development.
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ust rebuild the archive on a
fast architecture: A single AMD64 system can rebuild the archive in a
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* Olaf van der Spek
| On 8/24/05, Tollef Fog Heen <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:
| > * Olaf van der Spek
| >
| > | I understand most maintainers don't try the new toolchain themselves,
| > | but wouldn't it be possible for someone else to build the entire
| > | arch
* Jon Dowland
| On Wed, Aug 24, 2005 at 08:52:36AM +0200, Tollef Fog Heen wrote:
| > If you have an USB mouse, you need to have the driver for it loaded
| > before starting gdm (or the boot will fail), if it uses Xdmcp for
| > connecting to a terminal server, it will need networking
* Andreas Schuldei
| and because i never can remember if the first or the second file
| is the one the resulting patch should apply to, i also use
| "--fromfile=" pointing to the original.
diff $from $to, just like cp.
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* Alexander Schmehl
| * Tollef Fog Heen <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> [050914 10:47]:
| > | Maybe, if you don't want your output to be found on the Internet, you
| > | should not make it available on the Internet?
| > I think there is a difference between putting it all in one pla
* Josselin Mouette
| If support for it is in etch's dpkg, we will be able to use it *after
| the etch release*. The policy has always been to require only dpkg
| features from the previous stable release.
This is for Build-Depends, which doesn't have that restriction, aiui.
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written in the not-too-distant future, however. (That is, there is a
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some people are using to get people to use the BSD licence in favour
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IMAP library?
Apart from the other reasons stated in this thread, I could imagine it
giving you workaround for some of the bugs and missing features in the
google IMAP server. See [1] for more details.
[1]
http://pvanhoof.be/blog/index.php/2008/03/03/a-few-months-of-google-imap-lets-evaluate
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not questioning his motives, I am just pointing out that iwj
maintained it for about two out of its fourteen-year life. Calling
the project Ian's and implying that he has a god-given right to take
back dpkg because he first wrote it is just silly.
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some Autoconf macros that wrap pkg-config, libbar-dev should suggest
or recommend pkg-config, but Autoconf macros don't really map to
build-depends/depends, they are more like a development-depends.
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| Am Samstag 05 April 2008 schrieb Tollef Fog Heen:
| > Whoever develops software based on libbar will have to have a call to
| > pkg-config somewhere in their build process so they should depend on
| > pkg-config.
|
| _If_ they do. Please consider the possibilit
a
long discssion on some of the ramifications of blindly disabling
IPv6.
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y breaks NAT-PT, this probably also breaks for people
who want to talk to services on localhost using IPv6 (and doesn't
otherwise have IPv6 configured) as well as people who put link-local
addresses into DNS. Don't do that, then. IMNSHO.
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tream source tarball was prepared and whatever the packager had
installed at that time.
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pkg-config. pkg-config allows you to, say, move all the headers from
each package into its own namespace, like how GTK+ and Glib does it
and you can then rename that later if you so wish, without causing
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Could you (Heikki Orsila) please try removing and then installing the
mesa-common-dev package and see if that fixes the problem?
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(Cc-ing you as I don't know if you're on debian-devel or not;
apologies if you are subscribed).
| On Fri, Apr 25, 2008 at 07:28:33AM +0200, Tollef Fog Heen wrote:
| > Could you (Heikki Orsila) please try removing and then installing the
| > mesa-common-dev pa
t to restrict postinsts to only be
able to do a limited set of operations, the quality of packages will
detoriate quite a bit as they are no longer flexible enough to cater
for all packages's needs.
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* Sune Vuorela
| 3) do the real ugly hack and invent a a-m-t-a depending on the default mta
FWIW, aa sorts together with å (after x, y, z, æ and ø (or ø and æ, in
da_DK, I think)) in some locales, so that might not be the best
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* Martin Uecker
| Tollef Fog Heen wrote:
|
| > How would you go about doing that? If you just mean «all packages
| > should be built on the buildds», that's fairly easy to do, but if you
| > are talking about actual verification of source => binary which can be
| > done post
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Or even flock(1), which is part of util-linux.
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private key.
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ode which
| hosts the halockrun instance which holds the lock will also take care
| not to stale the lock (the kernel again, not the user space). without
| having done any deeper checks, ITUMO more robust that dotlockrun.
This is something flock does not do; it does not lock over NFS.
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| entirely possible that multiarch users will actually need the full
| triplet - think about hurd or kfreebsd as multiarch packages.
I don't believe anybody has suggested using just /usr/lib/i386, but
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| On Sun, Jul 05, 2009 at 01:26:23PM +0200, Tollef Fog Heen wrote:
| > ]] Yannick
| >
| > | For instance, I wanted to test Firefox 3.5 in 32bits on my amd64
| > | Debian (64bit Firefox 3.5 does not have the new tracemonkey javascript
| > | engine). With
same goals, which is not the same thing as
doing the same thing.
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you can actually multiarchify packages with .pc files already.
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onvinced it's a better
idea than to just have a /usr/bin/x86_64-linux-gnu-pkg-config.
pkg-config has a bit too much magic already, I'd rather not make it
even more magic.
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action, so that the package manager itself would create a
| .desktop file entry, given an icon and some information about the
| package.
like, the path, the description, translated into multiple languages and
so on? This is just .desktop files reinvented.
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| these? Fundamentally breaking IPv6 for these use cases to work around
| broken routing hardware is IMO a step too far.
Does anybody use IPv6-only link-local?
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| On Sun, Aug 02, 2009 at 08:39:46AM +0200, Tollef Fog Heen wrote:
| > ]] Roger Leigh
| >
| > | Having working local networking is important. We wouldn't consider
| > | broken IPv4 loopback acceptable, and broken IPv6 loopback is just as
| > | bad.
| &g
a bit of context) and to
adapt to sources where they don't apply 100%.
I would start by asking upstream first and see if they reject the
request, or ask «why?» before pushing for changes in Debian tools.
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ABI from changed API.
Say you have foo, linked against libbar1, this works fine. foo, linked
against libbar2 (where the ABI was bumped because some part of the ABI
changed), doesn't work. Being able to debug both of those to see where
their behaviour differs has value.
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what
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Since it's so tied to the in-memory structure, and the in-memory
structure is so broken (hurrah for a char * for the cache..), I would
suggest getting upstream to use sensible data types or forking the
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n the initramfs on those boxes which will do the mount before init is
started, for say, 10k€? I'll even make it as a Debian package.
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| consider using the conffile fragments under /etc/exim4/conf.d if those
| were natively loaded by exim4 itself, a la apache.
I'd be content by it just being handled by the init script even.
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stuff there is absolutely not fine. It's even
more off-limits than /usr/local (where you can create directories, but
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| I'm a maintainer of mathematica-fonts which downloads fonts
| with wget and I got the following bug report.
| What is a safe value for HOME in this case?
Make a temporary directory and point $HOME there.
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| aggregation is voluntary but what about redistribution ? :D
Given there's no licence, that's a fairly clear breach of most copyright
laws I know of, at least.
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| Hi,
|
| On Montag, 28. September 2009, Tollef Fog Heen wrote:
| > I realise you've had good an constructive responses for webapps, so
| > commenting on /srv in particular:
| >
| > As I read it, putting stuff there is absolutely not fine.
|
| Where
rid of ENABLED=[01] in /etc/default/*
for instance.)
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s?) rather than via recompilation. I think
| this gives sufficient reason for inclusion.
In Xresource format != via X resources. I don't see why a particular
file format is a sufficient reason to one WM or the other.
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| Any suggestions how to solve this problem?
Get dbconfig-common fixed to allow you to configure a database that's
not yet set up. I guess you can do this by asking the questions, then
having a trigger fire when the database is configured?
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too. There's no reason to mandate one particular style of hashbangs.
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| > |
| > | It must start with the line #!/usr/bin/make -f,
|
| [Tollef Fog Heen]
| > This should probably also be changed to allow «#! /usr/bin/make -f»
| > too. There's no reason to mandate one particular style of hashbangs.
|
| Why not?
If there's absolutely n
reasons why you should be
careful when designing APIs.
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| Since the postinst is a shell script, you cannot call directly the
| perl lib.
Postinsts can be written in any language, including perl, so he could
just write it in perl and use the relevant module.
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ld not fix the whole problem or prevent this problem from happening
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Isn't this what the LSB package format is?
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I disagree with it being a bug in the package; if the data needs to be
so big because of quality of textures or number of levels or whatever,
that's just how the world is.
It's not like it's a bug in linux-image-2.6.31-1-amd64 that it doesn't
fit on a 16MB USB stick, which is a
ly not.
| From a robustness perspective, I could patch the tests to try several
| different port numbers if the default (11400) is not available.
This might be good, yes.
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;s non-trivial to properly edit a
configuration file properly preserving all user changes. I believe this
module helps with that.
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logfiles on purge).
So you would expect a package to be marked as uninstalled and not purged
in the dpkg status file when it's purged? And for packages that does
not come from Packages file to be completely dropped?
If not, what am I missing?
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| On Sun, Dec 06, 2009 at 11:56:37AM +0100, Tollef Fog Heen wrote:
| > ]] Serafeim Zanikolas
| >
| > | The service supports no authorisation/authentication and, as of now, has
no
| > | way of limiting the size of inserted messages. Would it be acceptable if
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| * Avoid aliases forever! Lamson uses friendly regular expressions
| and FSM-based routing.
What does the flying spaghetti monster have to do with email routing?
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| Tollef Fog Heen writes:
|
| > ]] Sebastian Otaegui
| >
| > | * Avoid aliases forever! Lamson uses friendly regular expressions
| > | and FSM-based routing.
| >
| > What does the flying spaghetti monster have to do with email routing?
|
| You
t not without
patches to dak). While I'm not an ftp-master, I would be surprised if
they were happy to take patches for a 3.0 (simple-patchsys). Quilt
isn't that complicated to use and should just replace simple-patchsys,
dbs and similar patch systems.
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This is less of a problem for
Ubuntu than Debian because Ubuntu's slowest arch is quite fast, while
doing the same to the Debian ARM port would make the buildd (and the
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* Hamish Moffatt
| How is iodine different from nstx?
- Works on !i386
- Source code that does not make me cry and run away.
It's slightly less performant (in my experience), but I still much
prefer it.
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* Neil Williams
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| On Fri, 2008-07-04 at 08:33 +0200, Tollef Fog Heen wrote:
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| > How would you then handle libraries that go in /lib? (Apart from the
| > fact that I think just using a subdirectory of /usr/lib is much
t is to prevent a fairly substantial regression
from etch. Whether etch should have shipped a dom0 or not is a
different question and a little late to complain about now; we just have
to do the best we can with what we have.
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ory might very well not exist.
I would argue shipping a /srv/www is a bug if the site does not use
that layout.
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ve time to process the bugs properly, nor
use learn how to use LP's mail interface either.
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something useful.
FWIW, this is roughly what we're going to do with Apache post-lenny.
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le release will be broken (as noted above). Not
everybody runs debian-cd from svn. :-)
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