On 2 Dic, Oliver Elphick wrote:
> How do I get gcc to link in the shared library major version number?
>
> I get this:
> gcc -o psql -L../../interfaces/libpq psql.o stringutils.o -lpq -lcrypt
> -ldld
> -lnsl -ldl
> -lm -lreadline -lhistory -lcurses -export-dynamic -Wl,-rpath
> -Wl,
On 5 Dic, [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:
> Dear Debian Developer World,
>
> I have made a debian package for the mail program Postilion. I then
> read that one should post ones intentions here so as to avoid a
> duplicate effort.
>
> So is anyone else working on a debian package for the mail reader
>
Hi,
some time ago Bruce nounced the discussion about consultants
was moving to another debian mailing list. I tried to subscribe but
nothing happened... can someone tell me how to do it?
BTW, is not the first time I can't subscribe to a list...
I tried multiple times to send subsc
On 21 Dic, Adam P. Harris wrote:
>
> [You (Karl M. Hegbloom)]
>> I've created a directory "/usr/X11R6/icons" for my own use.
>> that we need to have something like that, and a keeper of the icons.
>
> We already have the location, and it is standard:
> /usr/X11R6/include/X11/pixmaps/
> There a
On 28 Dic, Yann Dirson wrote:
> Federico Di Gregorio writes:
> >* Added cron job to purge wwwoffle cache.
>
> Isn't it automatically handled by wwwoffled ? There is a "Purge"
> section in /etc/wwwoffle.conf (v1.3) that seem to indicate there's an
> internal mecahnism for this.
Well, not rea
Hi fellow developer,
I am changing ISP and I will be without connection to the net
for about 1-2 weeks. I am unsubscribing myself from all the mailing
lists and I will change email address. If you really need to contact me,
write at [EMAIL PROTECTED], I will change the .forward to send the
Hi Adam,
> 418408 tkdesk_1.0b4-2.1_i386.deb Libc6!
1.0b5 is out, and has some nice stuff added.
Why don't you package that?
> Please someone give me an account on master so that I can spread my work to
> the
> debian public.
Why dont you upload to chiark? If you PGP is in maintai
Hi Marco,
On 31 Dic, Marco Budde wrote:
> Moin Moin!
>
> Today I've released the latest version of my HTML online help system for
> Debian. Bugs reports are welcome :).
>
> dhelp
I like it but...
1) How about dwww? (Yes, I know dwww needs a web server...)
Hi,
I just wanted to know if the freefont package as already been
taken over. I am writing (finally) the Debian Type Manager (!?) and
I need a package of fonts to test it.
I will give more infos about the font manager in a week or so,
just the time to put the preliminary package i
On 1 Gen, Jim Pick wrote:
>
> [EMAIL PROTECTED] writes:
>
>> I like it but...
>
> I like it too.
>
>> 1) How about dwww? (Yes, I know dwww needs a web server...)
>
> I think I'll add support for .dhelp files to dwww too.
Oh, great!
>
>> 2) I really dont like to have 2/3/... methods of bui
Hi fellows,
I just read on LWN the short story about Bruce's
Linux Standard Base. Both Caldera and Redhat have a guy in
it. Debian isn't even mentioned. Shouldn't we have somebody in
the commitee? What do you think about?
Federico
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I don't usually write to the list to say "me too", but I think that
is a pretty foundamental step to be taken. I completely agree with
Ian but "me too" I think the stable pool is a better approach
(even if it requires more resources to be set up).
Ciao,
> Maintainers have the final word only if th
On Tue, Jun 09, 1998 at 07:42:27AM -0400, [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:
> I downloaded the sources for the 2.0.34 kernel and did a quick look through
> the files. The fat-32 patches do not seem to be in here. If 2.0.34 is to
> be released as a debian package, then I hope all of the patches that are in
On Wed, Jun 10, 1998 at 03:19:00PM +0200, [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:
>
> On Wed, 10 Jun 1998, Andreas Jellinghaus wrote:
>
> > a) 5 cd set : source, misc, and 3 binary cds.
> > misc + binary will be enought for every architecture, so
> > distributors can sell cd sets of 2 cds (or 3 with s
ation.
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compatible with the MoinMoin.
MoniWiki WikiFormattingRules were inspired and adopted from MoinMoin. Check
MoniWikiFeatures to see what MoniWiki has to offer.
Does it have problems with line breaks?
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the
application, only by the license for the library.)
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o me;
http://antispam.yahoo.com/domainkeys )
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ertainly imagine there being such beasts out there,
but most of the larger ones certainly don't, as they would then have
no way to catch bouncing members.
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header are assumed signed, which of course is not true, so you are
right that this will cause a problem with mailing lists.
I think this should be brought to the attention of the domainkeys
people, making this tag compulsory.
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s fashion that I can look at?
Just use a non-pristine source package for the pieces going into main;
this is what we're doing for xfree86. As you note, it might be not
everything would be able to go into non-free even, so you might need
to remove pieces of th
f the release team wants to pull mozilla-firefox-nb in order for
firefox 1.0 to go into sarge, feel free.
(I'm going to investigate this further, but the current version isn't
much good atm.)
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s yet.)
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ith it?)
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* Ron Johnson
| *No*, that's *not* true. The thought (well mine, at least) is,
| "not in main, not on Disk 1".
What's on the first CD is decided by popcon. If you continue to pimp
hot-babe as you are doing in this thread, it might very easily end up
there.
e, I think you should reword the description in order not
to cause the full Packages file to fall under the FDL due to being an
aggregated work.
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lling them that they need
| to reconfigure their mail client. To quote the Guinness ad, "Brilliant!"
They'll send them once in the clear, yes. Not each time, as they
would with normal pop. Not perfect, but in many cases a reasonable
tradeoff.
sign of a diseased mind.» (Terry Pratchett, Eric)
| i'm talking about correctness and respect!
[...]
| now please get out of my hut and go playing indian and cowboys in the
| garden you kids! :)
Do as you preach.
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? If either gets you into legal trouble of some sort,
shouldn't they be treated the same?
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* Ron Johnson
| > Nor all the violent games. No killing of hordes of orcs. orcs
| > were once elves, you know.
|
| Are there any such FPS' in Debian? nethack is there, but the
| violence is imagined, not in your face.
lxdoom is in main. quake2 and -data are in contrib.
--
ut if somebody were to make similar
images of a man with less and less clothes, I would just find it
silly. In the same way I find the current images silly.
I am not saying I don't believe you, I am just surprised that you seem
to feel objectified and pressured by a si
upset about. Not porn, not erotic, just silly.
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ol and the
GUI issue. Jumping penguins? Well, sure, we should be able to throw
in some of those as well.
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hich is one of the reasons why I'm using glastree and not pdumpfs.)
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ata is also software.
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vide alternative graphics for
hot-babe. We should not be too offensive to minority groups, but at
the same time people do have to have a certain amount of skin
thickness.
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tended
| for integration into dpkg, then reversion should be too.
Three wrongs does not make a right (or one and a half right or
anything.)
| I really think reversion should be available.
I think it's useless, but if you're going to upload it anyhow, please
don't use the dpkg-*
yself, drop
either (or both) of us a mail to get an account.
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* Thomas Bushnell BSG
| That's a bad reason; if you applied it consistently you'd have to get
| rid of frozen-bubble.
everybody knows that frozen-bubble is useful for delaying Debian
releases.
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btool files. Think
pkg-config files. Think symlinks. Think documentation references.)
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There are a few ways to solve those problems, they are being explored
and worked on, but none of them are pretty.
Thanks a lot to both Daniel Silverstone and Colin Watson for their
helpful explanations about this. (And a good meal.)
* Goswin von Brederlow
| Tollef Fog Heen <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> writes:
|
| > * Brian Nelson
| >
| > | Anyone, developer or non-developer, can help fix toolchain problems.
| > | However, the only people who can work on the testing-security
| > | autobuilders are ... the secu
some other OS, then into
Linux, for instance.
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at may be loaded with it once the mISDN
| stack reaches a non-beta state.
You might also want to look into the ruling from tech-ctte on 119517
(referenced in the bug logs) wrt "dependency" when it's a minor part
on a package's
a
couple of Euros and you can get a lot done without going that far,
even, but just soldering stuff. Not free, but cheap enough that «it's
too expensive» isn't a real argument.
FPGA equipment is on the same magnitude of cost -- still a b
plugs is beside the point here.)
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e programs and perl itself is free,
so perl can go to main.
| - the kernel. I want to ship a stripped down debian with my non-DFSG
| code in an embedded system. The kernel is useless without my code, so
| the kernel cannot be in main.
But it can work with free hardware and is itself
ecords
http://packages.debian.org/ms-sys
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m
my Debian arch repository at
http://arch.err.no/[EMAIL PROTECTED] (If you don't want
to maintain it, I can; either way is fine with me.)
gaim-dev is in NEW and waiting for ftp-master approval, so there is no
need to bug the gaim maintainers further.
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there exists a dependency on non-free code.
However, if somebody writes a graphviz-client which just pushes the
dot file over the network to graphviz.example.com on some port and
gets a postscript file back, it can go into main. No matter what
software said server is running. Correct?
--
e ask those
| people how you can rid off of off-list CC replies.
You are the one violating the Debian Mailing List Guidelines here, not
Matthew. See http://www.debian.org/MailingLists/#codeofconduct
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y for it to be
uploaded.)
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gluck (1day) and let it ftp it for
| > >you ;)
|
| > Does it ftp in time for the daily dinstall?
|
| The 0-day queue is ftp-ed about 1 hours before dinstall, IIRC.
No, it runs every 15 minutes.
Somebody could probably document all this somewhere else than in my
~/bin and my
* Bartosz Fenski aka fEnIo
| On Tue, Feb 01, 2005 at 01:12:45PM +0100, Tollef Fog Heen wrote:
| > | > ,>scp to a Debian host (like gluck or merkel) and ftp from there. Or
| > | > >just scp it to the DELAYED queue on gluck (1day) and let it ftp it for
| > | > >you ;)
|
hat's not a problem. The installed system does not use devfs.
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later
| Description : GNU Radio interface to ALSA audio
|
| The package interfaces the GNU Radio libraries to OSS audio
| interface.
Could they be called gnuradio-audio-alsa and similar? gr is a bit
short and doesn't really tell what the package is about.
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Toll
* Dirk Eddelbuettel
| | - time (dead upstream)
|
| -- picked up by Tollef (no new upload yet). Thanks, Tollef!
Just uploaded.
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xport TMPDIR }
to the init script.
This should probably be considered good practice for daemons which
change their UID, I think.
I'm Cc-ing debian-devel to see if anybody has any better suggestions;
Mail-Followup-To set there.
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* Tomas Fasth
| PAM is good. The fact remains, it doesn't handle default umask.
If you use libpam-umask, it does.
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* Lucas de Sousa
| Assuming that is unclean installation junk.
Assume makes an ass of u an' me.
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* Christian Perrier
| I was aware of his greylisting system and I should have imagined this
| when sending my mail. Apologies to list subscribers for that.
This isn't greylisting -- greylisting doesn't ask for verification, it
just temporarily refuses to accept the mail.
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* Peter Samuelson
| [Tollef Fog Heen]
| > Assume makes an ass of u an' me.
|
| Why do people keep circulating this saying? It makes no sense.
| Normally, assuming only ever has the power to make an ass of the person
| who did the assuming, i.e. "me", not "u and me"
* Christian Perrier
| Please find below the alphabetical list of the relevant packages
| (main, then contrib, then non-free).
.. as usual, please include maintainer names with package lists like
this. (And thanks for assembling the list. :)
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* Lucas de Sousa
| Even the people here that supports the /.dev mount agrees that is not the
| right place for it. It does not match the FHS, and it is a bit weird.
The FHS, like policy, documents current practice. If /.dev catches
on, it'll be in the FHS somehow.
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ke
smaller
modifications but is more fragile and might break if modified
extensively.
.
If you are unsure then you should not use split configuration.
I think the last point sums it up -- use monolithic configuration if
you don't understand what the question is about.
--
other packages to update exim's configuration
-- I'm considering shipping files for mailman, for instance. It would
be nice if SA did the same and so on.
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* Tore Anderson
| * Tollef Fog Heen
|
| > It's also a nice way for other packages to update exim's configuration
| > -- I'm considering shipping files for mailman, for instance. It would
| > be nice if SA did the same and so on.
|
| But you'd do it so that t
* Tore Anderson
| * Tollef Fog Heen
|
| > No. If you have exim4 installed and install mailman, it's a
| > reasonable expectation that you want to use those two together.
|
| But you cannot know if I have changed, added, or removed files under
| conf.d/ in such a way which woul
* Will Newton
| A suprising number of programs embed the current date, time, hostname etc. in
| their user visible version strings. The Linux kernel for example, does not
| compile identically twice unless you hack it slightly.
Even with the same preprocessed source?
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* Fredrik Steen
| Anyone using pyblosxom and would like to adopt it?
|
| I'm not using pyblosxom anymore and would like to give it away
| to more caring hands.
I'm using it and could take it over if you want to give it to me.
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g does the same thing
|
| So how does apt break it but using dpkg doesn't?
apt invokes dpkg on the command line and due to maximum command line
length it sometimes is split in an unfortunate place.
This will be fixed once dpkg is librarified.
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topped build-depending on libreiserfs at the
| beginning of November). Not much of a reason to hurry, if you ask me...
Given that one of the mails had a From line containing
linspireinc.com, I think it's linspire. Crazy people, they should
just use d-i. ;)
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* Adam Heath
| On Tue, 1 Mar 2005, Tollef Fog Heen wrote:
|
| > apt invokes dpkg on the command line and due to maximum command
| > line length it sometimes is split in an unfortunate place.
| >
| > This will be fixed once dpkg is librarified.
|
| Er, no, it won't.
Plea
* Michael Schultheiss
| There are upgrade paths from G1 to G2 but G2 is currently in alpha, soon
| to be beta. I wouldn't want to replace the current G1 package with G2
| until G2 goes golden.
Uploading to experimental sounds like a good idea, then.
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ngle link is fine. They will only be recreated if
they are all removed.
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normal data transfers and stuff.
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* Matthew Palmer
| I'm willing to provide an OpenVPN tunnel to an SMTP server for any
| DD who is unable to find alternate lodgings, and I'm pretty sure I'm
| not the only one.
http://freerelay.err.no/
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ed on auto*, as they would have picked up fixed versions
of the .m4 files.
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.
Multiarch.
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IMHO yes.
More or less all the material in Debian is copyrighted, I think you
mean «proprietary, non-redistributable stuff»
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* Andreas Barth
(Please don't send me Ccs; I read the lists I post to, else I would
have set mail-followup-to. And please don't set your mail-followup-to
to include me.)
| * Tollef Fog Heen ([EMAIL PROTECTED]) [050314 10:55]:
| > * Steve Langasek
| >
| > | If you are
migration is not needed for etch, but I would very much
like to have at least the basic tools needed in there.
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orld). [Chris Yeoh and taggart are the people
| to talk to.]
TTBOMK, «the others» are watching, but as this is a fairly big change,
they want to see of it goes before going the same way as us.
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was bought about a week ago; a linksys WRT54GS.
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* Thiemo Seufer
| For anyone who uses Debian as base of a commercial solution it is a
| requirement. Grabing some random unstable snapshot is a non-starter.
You do realise this is exactly what Ubuntu is doing? (Grab «random»
snapshot; stabilise)
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|
| And would break d-i, which currently provides a list of mirrors to choose
| from.
If that was the only problem, it would be fairly easy to make sure the
mirror list hard-coded in choose-mirror was different for each
architecture. Are there any other problems, or is that the hold-up?
--
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vergences, they should be small
| and minimal.
FWIW, this is more or less what the sarge amd64 release will be, AIUI.
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to say «go away, you're not a port yet», they haven't.
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twork». Those are wholly separate issues and
even if you don't get your buildd «accepted by the empowered ones»,
you can still build and upload to the archive.
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UNIX is user friendly, it's just pi
ild the archive. It's not hard to do and
doesn't take long on an AMD64. We've done it a few times already.
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amd64 into Debian. There was a small crowd of them at FOSDEM.
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packages as well as one implementation on
how it can look in dpkg. My dpkg implementation might turn out to not
work as well as intended, if so, we do at least have aj's proposal to
fall back to.
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UNIX is u
x27;t think posting Ubuntu material to Debian lists is
in any way appropriate.
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of not enough hardware, this
is something I think we should spend money on. Or we could ask a
sponsor (hi HP!:) if they would be willing to donate some more memory.
--
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UNIX is user friendly, it's just pick
nds of bottlenecks is important and will
help us make releases happen faster.
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UNIX is user f
not a DD, so Debian does not have a trust relationship with
you. It has nothing to do whether you are trustworthy or not, it is
about whether you have the trust. Since you're not a DD, you don't
have that trust.
(And yes, I think it's b
ving random examples) and releases it?
Does it bother you that corporations fund development on KDE and GNOME
and thereby help shape what those desktops will look like in the
future?
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UNIX is user friendly, it
* Reinhard Tartler
| On Mon, 14 Mar 2005 15:11:01 +0100, Tollef Fog Heen <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:
| > * Hamish Moffatt
| >
| > | OK, that makes sense. Can you buy those architectures new? (Surely yes
| > | in the case of s390 at least, probably mipsel also as the mips CPU
|
ead the bits around on how the
autobuilder network rather than asking questions which shouldn't take
you more than ten minutes of investigation to find the answer to.
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r the objection of
| the incumbents) or remove people from them?
Most of the teams here work by the principle of «submit working
patches and be useful». I don't think having a formalised process to
join the CD-image team (randomly chosen) is very useful.
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