ve sex in public places.
>
> You can do the same in Finland, except having sex in public places,
> like parks, is not very popular, due to sub-zero temperatures and
> snow up to your balls...
Arrgh. Trying to supersede highly respected members of this list in
going off-topic? :)
Cheers
so I presume the upgrade
corrupts something in the way. How do I fix this?
please reopen the bug
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r anything and ended up with a broken
xinit. How can this be possible?
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ght that review by
wider audience would be instrumental in that.
[+] Not because I'm especially fond of the developer in question. It is
not a matter of personal liking.
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On Sat, Jan 06, 2001 at 01:16:22PM -0500, Matt Zimmerman wrote:
> 2a. Install (or recompile) the specific packages from unstable that fix the
> bugs
That I should have done...
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things that do not interest
me at all... Are you guys on crack?
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On Sat, Jan 06, 2001 at 04:39:43PM -0200, Henrique M Holschuh wrote:
> Branden, please understand this for what it is meant: "Branden does not like
> to be poked. He seems to like even less to be poked by you. Please don't
> poke him, he'll bite back and we get to watch the fallout."
>
Great kiss
per, I might have felt hurt. Now, I have managed to
get the sid version here working and hope the lusers here will be happier.
Had to stand a lot of flames to get a small answer. :/
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Excuse me, I had not read the latter amusing part of the mail.
I'd just seen the reassign part.
It looks like Branden makes another hopeless attempt at defamation
of a bug reporter and fellow contributor with his underrated
literary skills.
On Sat, Jan 06, 2001 at 10:36:33AM -0500, Branden Robins
om
potato without disappointing users.
Thanks,
> Regards,
> Steve Langasek
> postmodern programmer
:P goood luck with your postmodern codes.
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and it doesn't have the
bug. I login as root from console, and I get all the sbin paths here.
On borg, the bug occurs as you say, I login as root and I'm in like
a normal user. I have to do a 'su' to get things right.
What might be the reason for this?
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tication for
> display managers when you upgraded? Yes, but it certainly wasn't in the X
> packages.
?? I'm not sure, but when I downgraded to the version in sid, everything got
back to normal.
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her has had it
> deleted, and then (and only then) is login/whatever providing you with a
> default user env...
Thanks for the suggestion. That's it. Please close the bug. That file has
somehow gone and replacing it will solve the problem.
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't smart to transmit cleartext passwords while the network is full
of people snooping packets.
Thanks for the idea,
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On Sun, Jan 07, 2001 at 05:43:52PM +1000, Jason Henry Parker wrote:
> Eray Ozkural (exa) <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> writes:
>
> > Hmm. Well, I know about that. The display managers start all right. The
> > problem occurs when I login. I'd tried xdm, wings and gdm. How com
in "why have you submitted this bug?". It occured to
me as a bug, and I wanted to report it as soon as I observed it. Sometimes
the bugs I see turn out to be bogus surely, but I have reported many
useful bugs as well. I invest a lot of time in testing stuff and reporting
bugs.
Thanks,
-
valid bugs I've reported
I believe that improvements have been made. Testing is part of contribution.
Could please one of you close this bug now? :>
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read every mail the BTS sends. I am sure your excelent bug analysis
> skills are greatly appreciated.
>
Well, I guess I should.
I have developed a great liking for bug reports somehow.
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Plus a lot of bug reports, etc.
If the slow debian application process finalizes for me I'll be able to
do a lot more. [waiting for DAM approval, whenever that is supposed to
happen :(]
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Branden Robinson wrote:
>
> Wow, I may have to revise my opinion of France, then.
Isn't France the same country that tried to spy on Netscape's SSL
implementation?
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www: http://www.c
w installer should provide
the same functionality as FAI.
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ly:
It should be re-usable as a library for implementing packages/modules
for PLs·
That would make it pretty academic :) As a matter of fact I claimed
to Anthony Towns that I'd rewrite dpkg for a test of skill during
a friendly exchange. That's one of the features I really wan
dpkg's code in 3 years.
That smells like "re-write". The scent of painstaking coding. Mmmm.
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be limited to files and directories.
What I would want to see is a more abstract view of the process. In fact, one
should view this as part of a software-engineering toolchain. It should
play nicely with a corresponding build system, config system, etc.
Off the top of my head of course. :)
Thank
ll file gets fscked and
the system stalls, then you gotta fix it by hand. Ah, and if a large
portion of the database is gone, there is nothing your stupid hand
can do, anyway.
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papers. Of course you can take a look at his work
yourself. At this location there are many papers authored by him:
http://www.ladseb.pd.cnr.it/infor/ontology/Papers/OntologyPapers.html
Merry Christmas,
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ural" aspects of upgrading.
No religious wars, all right? :)
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Mistakenly sent to debian-devel. This is off topic.
Merry Xmas to you all!!
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Brian May wrote:
>
> - harder to administrate /etc/passwd as more users exist.
I like using groups to give different sets of rights and I'm
annoyed by Debian giving every user his own group. Is that
reall necessary?
cu,
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Anand Kumria wrote:
>
> In future please send those kinds of emails privately.
mis-take. :)
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Nathan E Norman wrote:
>
> On Tue, Dec 26, 2000 at 04:43:53AM +0200, Eray Ozkural (exa) wrote:
> > I like using groups to give different sets of rights and I'm
> > annoyed by Debian giving every user his own group. Is that
> > reall necessary?
>
> It&#x
Brian May wrote:
>
> >>>>> "exa" == exa writes:
>
> exa> Brian May wrote:
> >> - harder to administrate /etc/passwd as more users exist.
>
> exa> I like using groups to give different sets of rights and I'm
>
Hamish Moffatt wrote:
>
> On Tue, Dec 26, 2000 at 04:43:53AM +0200, Eray Ozkural (exa) wrote:
> > I like using groups to give different sets of rights and I'm
> > annoyed by Debian giving every user his own group. Is that
> > reall necessary?
>
> No, but it
gets processed for all shells, but is run
> before zshrc.
I use bash. Is this zsh better? :)
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e, I need root access to do it :(
^^^
That's what troubles me.
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remote).
>
Ok. Then what I did was correct. I set up a developers group
and put all devels there, then I changed umask to 002 in /etc/profile.
I guess that's the way it works for multiple CVS users, right?
Since there are per user groups, the umask won't disrupt any other
operat
ssions? Do you think everyone reporting a bug is a lamer?
Revise your prejudice please.
orion:exa$ groups
exa dialout cdrom audio dip video windows
I can do ANYTHING I WANT to those files okay?
only in gmc renaming (that is the old mv) will fail
> > But gmc thinks I don't have suf
ip/ppa-bugvfatdefaults,user,exec,rw,noauto0 0
that happens to be data and gid 105 is windows
!!!
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"Eray Ozkural (exa)" wrote:
>
> Try to reproduce what I do there. The permissions on parent
> are irrelevant. That's a vfat filesystem. Permissions are
> same everywhere anyway if you wonder.
Sorry sorry sorry sorry. Permissions on parent of course do matter
as you exp
Nathan E Norman wrote:
>
> On Thu, Dec 28, 2000 at 03:05:50AM +0200, Eray Ozkural (exa) wrote:
> > Martin. Yes. I tried. Do you think I'm a newbie or something? Why
> > do you think the file is owned by root? It's on windows partition...
>
> Hold on ... this is
Chad Miller wrote:
>
> On Thu, Dec 28, 2000 at 05:41:28PM +0200, Eray Ozkural (exa) wrote:
> > BUT gmc (and most possibly mc) will not be
> > able to rename stuff, though you can move
> > files ;) It's a bug for certain!
>
> Whoa. I don't understand th
Hi Martin,
in the light of what has been discussed...
could you please replicate the bug and report
upstream?
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I'll deploy it for other
interesting applications. (the most immediate is some kind of a bookmark
/personal-data manager)
Constructive comments most welcome. Criticism without reading any
of the papers I'd linked to before on this list will not be tolerated!!!
Thanks!!
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is *totally* irrelevant here. It's the semantics
that matters.
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I'll be off for a few days, so I may not be able to answer the
posts in RFC: pools... thread.
Happy New Year!!
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wo of the problems I'm trying to address. Another is the structure
of ontology: a single inheritance tree doesn't seem to be sufficient.
Plus, we need a part-of hierarchy as well I'm sure...
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Branden Robinson wrote:
>
> You know, kinda like the way I went nuclear on Wichert when he broke vim.
You use vi? Emacs rules.
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to submit a patch. That's maintainer's responsibility.
I've just reported what I had thought, some many many months ago,
to be a problem. Of course, the maintainer has not done anything
about this report for 7 months, and then he closes it like that.
Not good.
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Peter Palfrader wrote:
>
> Did you do this first?
No. I'm sending it here because I want it to be seen.
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Manoj Srivastava wrote:
> Wanted to make an ass of yourself in public, eh?
Yep.
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Ben Collins wrote:
>
>
> WOW. Go fucking figure. YOUR BUG REPORT says
>
> PTHREAD_ERRORCHECK_INITIALIZER_NP
>
> while this info page shows
>
> PTHREAD_ERRORCHECK_MUTEX_INITIALIZER_NP
>
argh. my first great mistake of the millenium. fuck me real
. Are all three types of mutexes
supported under glibc? According to the info manual it should be but...?
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strcmp then how
will I rightfully complain about my bug not getting attention? Sorry
Ben.
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Ben Collins wrote:
>
> Oh, and just to chime in on this little bit, I did not start maintaining
> glibc until Aug 31, 2000 (my first changelog entry). So no, I have not
> been sitting on this for 7 months. Get your facts straight.
I'm really ashamed, Ben. Sorry, sorry, sorry.
Now it's my unavoidable duty to find out what has caused me to file this
bug.
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ause the bug I reported was inaccurate, and all
that. However, I would not have reported it if there was no problem. No bug
should be closed without some investigation and communication by the maintainer.
BTW, might bugzilla be better than Debian BTS in some aspects? Just a thought...
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important packages.
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appreciate the huge effort and many juicy changelog
> entries that have gone into libc6 recently.
I do, too. I appreciate Ben's skills and effort. Sorry if there's
misunderstanding. For instance, there was this bug about fmemopen() and
a few days later, the fix from CVS was in debian. A
be the second developer for libc6 then start fixing some bugs!
Ahem! *choke* Perhaps, I must start with the (inaccurate) bug I'd
reported!!
I'll just determine the cause of that bug and see what I can do myself.
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Package: general
Version: N/A; reported 2001-01-06
Severity: important
After I upgraded from potato to woody on
an i386 machine, I observed a strange sympton
I login as root. It doesn't matter where, console, X or
from network...
When I check the environment, normal user environment is
present. I
I can summarize:
from auth.log, a message like
PAM_unix[...]: authentication failure; (uid=0) -> exa for gdm service
exa is a normal user here, and gdm is the standard gdm. exa's uid is 1000
That's when I try to login from gdm. When I try to login from console
the error is more
pioneer of the list.
I upgraded our research cluster to unstable because I wanted
to use it for testing the latest cluster software.
If you call your insults to another contributor to debian "deserved rant",
then I'd think you are either misinterpreting your status or unaware of
any soc
then
#source ~/.bashrc
#fi
# set PATH so it includes user's private bin if it exists
#if [ -d ~/bin ] ; then
#PATH="echo `~/bin`:${PATH}"
#fi
[EMAIL PROTECTED]:~# cat /etc/environment
LANG=C
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this person
is not that talented. And he is one of the most arrogant and irresponsible
young computer-oriented persons I have ever encountered. His actions
are simply not tolerable.
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stop reporting bugs
> against general, and subscribe to a UNIX help mailing list.
Why are you pretending that this is an FAQ. This happened twice on
systems that I used, and was caused by an upgrade. I marked it important
not because it is difficult to solve, but because it would apparently
disrupt o
ealt with if bug reports were subject to peer review. I think that
review by wider audience may be instrumental in that...
-
Thanks,
[*] When we talk just about code, objectively, I wouldn't hesitate to
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s
are the ones that I tries) to function correctly?
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Hamish Moffatt wrote:
>
> On Sat, Jan 06, 2001 at 11:34:04PM +0200, Eray Ozkural (exa) wrote:
> > If you call your insults to another contributor to debian "deserved rant",
> > then I'd think you are either misinterpreting your status or unaware of
> > an
e time. It's
been a long time, but I hope I will be able to replicate the bug.
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ng at all to say on the subject.
Yes, I did. At any rate, you didn't have to publicly insult me.
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on if they don't have a cristal ball handy.
When I have more time on my hands, the bug reports become more comprehensive.
Excuse me for being paranoid about bug reports, but some of the bug reports
are really being overlooked.
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tiation, while of course
> non-SSL-capable telnet clients will still be able to connect insecurely.
that sounds even better. perhaps ms is a good place to work at. :)
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Hi Myth and all,
I filed a bug report about the new mozilla 0.7 release. It looks
like it's got PSM built in so it will comfort a lot of people.
It would be highly appreciated if you could give it a whirl.
Regards,
__
Eray
be used in an unlimited fashion. Which is usual for a development
tool.
URL:
http://sources.redhat.com/cgen/
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On the bts web interface, it's written that closed bugs are cleaned
up after a period of inactivity. Are they permanently erased?
I'd prefer that a complete history of all bugs is preserved.
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e-mail: [EMAIL PROT
Josip Rodin wrote:
>
> On Sun, May 06, 2001 at 03:00:56PM +0300, Eray Ozkural (exa) wrote:
> > On the bts web interface, it's written that closed bugs are cleaned
> > up after a period of inactivity. Are they permanently erased?
> > I'd prefer that a complet
e contact me?
Unfortunately I'm not available until February, but if you have any problems
I'd try to help.
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