t;.
pros:
simple. takes <20 seconds with vi. minimal change, so follows principle
of least surprise. easy to remember. init.d scripts are conffiles so it
won't be automatically replaced at the next upgrade.
cons:
you have to re-do the change if you ever upgrade and answer "Y" t
grep "^PACKAGENAME " override.potato
will do the job, and is probably significantly faster than an awk
script.
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encumbered by a patent problem in the world's favourite police state.
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m just
as they get home from work or sit down to dinner can say "PUT ME ON
YOUR DO-NOT-CALL LIST IMMEDIATELY!". write the software so that it is
trivially easy for the telemarketer to add numbers to that list.
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On Sat, Oct 02, 1999 at 10:50:06PM -0500, Chris Lawrence wrote:
> On Oct 03, Craig Sanders wrote:
> > IMO, this is morally akin to writing free software specifically to make
> > spamming cheaper and easier.
>
> No, it isn't. Survey research is an important part of th
On Mon, Oct 04, 1999 at 01:02:55AM +0200, Marcus Brinkmann wrote:
> On Mon, Oct 04, 1999 at 08:13:02AM +1000, Craig Sanders wrote:
> > even opt-out lists are the wrong solution...because they don't work very
> > well (especially when usage of them is optional). telephone
On Sun, Oct 03, 1999 at 07:29:15PM -0400, Raul Miller wrote:
> On Mon, Oct 04, 1999 at 08:13:02AM +1000, Craig Sanders wrote:
> > it may be an important tool, but that doesn't give you or anyone else
> > the right to pester people in their own homes. it really does no good
>
at not using it would be
unethical, but i certainly agree that this usage IS an ethical and
appropriate use of this kind of software.
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ret holy code should be available to non-genuine seekers of
truth, and to seekers of falsehood (genuine or not) too.
god told me to write this so you better believe it.
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f this is to take advantage of our biggest advantage
- if you compare "unstable" with any of the other dists (commercial or
otherwise), then we are way ahead of them for most programs/packages.
the perception that debian is behind is only true for those stuck with
stable.
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ian "unstable" - many of us
are willing to risk our important systems to it.
rather than seeing that as a problem, we should be working to take
advantage of "unstable"'s stability and quality.
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ing release. As has been said
> before, Debian isn't commercial. It doesn't have to behave like it is
> with releases.
well said!
and you make an important point that most people overlook - that the
whole commercial product style release cycle may not be thet best way
for debian releases to be made.
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7;s release in the same terms as a commercial operating
system.
the only viable way to speed that up is to implement the package pool
idea, coupled with reasonably frequent "snapshot" releases and less
frequent but fully-tested "stable" releases.
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On Tue, Mar 14, 2000 at 09:02:50AM -0500, Ben Collins wrote:
> On Tue, Mar 14, 2000 at 10:01:15PM +1100, Craig Sanders wrote:
> > On Mon, Mar 13, 2000 at 09:08:43AM -0500, Ben Collins wrote:
> > > We are knee deep in a release cycle. We should not be expending our
> > &g
On Tue, Mar 14, 2000 at 11:02:20PM +0100, Josip Rodin wrote:
> On Wed, Mar 15, 2000 at 08:42:07AM +1100, Craig Sanders wrote:
> > this same empirical evidence has also proved that 'stable' is LESS
> > stable and reliable and secure than 'unstable'. the few de
he needs of our users for operation in many different
> kinds of computing environment. We won't object to commercial software
> that is intended to run on Debian systems, and we'll allow others to
> create value-added distributions containing both Debian and commercial
&g
are) fixed in stable, too!
most are.
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many others over the years).
amongst numerous other benefits, snapshot CDs will take the pressure off
the release team and allow them to take as much time as they feel is
necessary to produce the 'perfect' release.
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On Tue, Mar 14, 2000 at 09:23:42PM -0600, Steve Greenland wrote:
> On 14-Mar-00, 18:58 (CST), Craig Sanders <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:
> > actually, it's really sad that you haven't learnt that closing down
> > 'unstable' is a disastrously bad idea. you&#
On Wed, Mar 15, 2000 at 09:35:35AM +0100, Raphael Hertzog wrote:
> Le Wed, Mar 15, 2000 at 06:06:24PM +1100, Craig Sanders écrivait:
> > and fuck you too! how dare you fucking misrepresent my position and
> > twist what i said in such a reprehensible manner?
> >
>
27;t fixed in stable are the worst
> release-critical bugs.
most are. most of them even in a timely fashion.
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's warning that i was going to orphan it
- nobody cared enough about it to bother adopting it in that time).
most of the rest have actually been fixed, but i must have got the BTS
syntax wrong when closing the bugs in the changelog.
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STV to replace the QT
> > calls with GTK calls, but that would be a last ditch idea.
>
> It truly would, QT is FAR superior to GTK!!
if you only want to work in C++, and if you don't care that it's
incompatible with the GPL.
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On Wed, Mar 15, 2000 at 07:07:51AM -0500, Michael Stone wrote:
> On Wed, Mar 15, 2000 at 09:03:18PM +1100, Craig Sanders wrote:
> > i haven't yet decided what to do about vtun. i'll probably get around
> > to upgrading it to the latest version one day, but i made a mistak
> implented in our lifetime.
I recall reading that it was being prototyped on lully...but lully is
currently waiting for some replacement hardware.
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ably be used mostly by developers and bleeding-edge
type users.
'snapshot' will be used by those with fewer guinea-pig genes, who want
something up-to-date but with major obvious problems resolved.
'frozen' is for those who just can't wait for stable or who want to help
with final testing.
'stable' is for everyone.
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On Thu, Mar 16, 2000 at 11:02:31AM +1100, Craig Sanders wrote:
> ??? - packages auto moved to here after basic criteria met (e.g.
> in unstable for 2 weeks with no bug reports). can't remember
> what this stage was to be called.
i feel a need to w
On Wed, Mar 15, 2000 at 08:41:01PM -0600, Steve Greenland wrote:
> On 15-Mar-00, 01:06 (CST), Craig Sanders <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:
> > DO NOT PUT WORDS IN MY MOUTH.
> >
> > your "argument" for want of a better term is obviously so poor that you
> >
udmsearch is a website indexer and, I'm going to package it!
More info about it at http://mysearch.udm.net/
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ry difficult to see where you are going. fixed with:
COLOR:1:cyan:black
COLOR:5:brightcyan:black
vim too. fixed with the folling in ~/.vimrc:
set background=dark
hi Commentterm=bold ctermfg=Cyan guifg=Cyan
hi PreProcterm=underline ctermfg=Cyan guifg=#ff80ff
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ng the pine emulation bindings but they were more trouble for
me than just learning the mutt keys.
i've been using mutt for long enough now that pine's key bindings seem
clumsy and awkward.
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the only annoying thing is that if you are already at the end of a
message, then PgDn takes you to the next message.
this should be optional behaviour. maybe it already is...it has never
annoyed me enough to find out.
> The key binding are so insame that prevent people (newbies) fom
> using mutt, they first must to learn how to change those defaults to
> something acceptable.
it's not that bad. if newbies can pick up emacs' horribly contorted key
bindings then mutt's a doddle.
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at in pine without copying the file to /root/mail or making a
symlink.
craig
ps: if you prefer pine, then just use it. there's no need to make every
mail client as bad as pine...some of us like mutt the way it is and
don't want to see it mangled into an awkward pine clone.
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favour of adding them as comments in /etc/Muttrc, along with an
explanation of what they do and why someone might choose to uncomment
them - a summary of your comments in this thread would be perfect.
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to mention that until after i'd sent the message.
blue on black is just a bad idea - too little contrast between fg & bg
to be readable.
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raviolet. :)
now that you have discovered the awful secret of debian, the secret
cabal will have to take care of you. wait right where you are. there
will be a knock on the door shortly.
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or sudo environment). moving
these programs to different directories will break those scripts.
the minimal benefit of moving them is greatly outweighed by the damage
it would cause.
in short, add the sbin directories to your PATH and move on.
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them).
it only takes a few seconds to do so i don't care much what the default
is.
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It's just an illustration of the problems of attempting to enforce
your preferred policies upon others.
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if they are unable to test you..)
>
> I don't know anything about DUL.
that's OK, neither does Joseph. As usual, he's shooting his mouth off
about stuff he couldn't even begin to comprehend.
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-20.4/lisp/gnus which is in the
xemacs20-support package. Even with -no-site-file xemacs still will
find that directory if it wasn't removed by a user.
Unless someone else can reproduce this bug, I suggest we either close
it, or downgrade it to normal. I suspect it was an issue with the
use
of emacs is broken; does it justify yanking
> bbdb despite the fact it works for a large number of people?
And as I pointed out previously, it worked for me using xemacs20, both
with and without the seperate gnus package.
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oduce the bug, and due to the fact that even if it
were to mysteriously manifest it only effected xemacs20 users without
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b, and one that grows enormously
for every release. we had around 2000 packages for slink. we now have
approx 4000 for potatoand already nearly 5000 for woody - and potato
isn't even out the door!
i'm glad i don't have to wait. unstable is more than good enough for
use on production servers (and has been the entire time i've been using
debian - almost 5 years now)
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r deliberately spreading misinformation.
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a
dialup address - SMTP delivery to dynamic IP addresses just doesn't work
reliably, and can not work reliably even if the end-user does make use
of one of the dynamic dns services)
> The anti-spam bigots enjoy seeing catch-22's like this.
the anti-DUL bigots love spreading disinformation and bullshit like this
to backup their shaky claims.
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eening out spammers from abusing the
service - but that may not be such a problem, setting up uucp would
be a barrier to entry for most spammersand you could require new
subscribers to send a PGP signed scan of a photo id card to prove their
identity (just like debian does for new developers).
On Wed, Mar 29, 2000 at 11:16:32PM +0100, [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:
> On Thu, Mar 30, 2000 at 07:58:22AM +1000, Craig Sanders wrote:
>
> > yep. the DUL lists dynamic (dialup) IPs, it doesn't list static IPs.
> > that's why it's called the MAPS Dialup User Li
On Tue, Mar 28, 2000 at 07:14:58PM +, Alexander Koch wrote:
> DUL is interesting. I changed my mind on that. I rather say we use it
> since the amount of spam is certainly increasing the last weeks and
> DUL is understandable.
>
> Craig?
obviously, i agree - i've been a
C-1648 ("Postmaster
Convention for X.400 Operations"), and RFC-2142 ("MAILBOX NAMES FOR
COMMON SERVICES, ROLES AND FUNCTIONS").
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On Wed, Mar 29, 2000 at 03:19:34PM -0800, Lawrence Walton wrote:
> Craig I meant you need those things to have a smtp HOST. You know; to
> send and recive email, I was not commenting about DUL in any form. So
> to say I was spreadding FUD is foolish, maybe you could of asked for
On Wed, Mar 29, 2000 at 04:41:15PM -0700, Jason Gunthorpe wrote:
> On Thu, 30 Mar 2000, Craig Sanders wrote:
> > debian developers should have the option of a uucp account from one
> > of the debian servers (trivially easy for us to set up).
>
> I think we have been over thi
On Thu, Mar 30, 2000 at 01:36:37AM +0200, Nils Jeppe wrote:
> On Thu, 30 Mar 2000, Craig Sanders wrote:
>
> > yep. the DUL lists dynamic (dialup) IPs, it doesn't list static IPs.
> > that's why it's called the MAPS Dialup User List.
>
> Well then I have
On Thu, Mar 30, 2000 at 02:17:55AM +0200, Nils Jeppe wrote:
> On Thu, 30 Mar 2000, Craig Sanders wrote:
>
> > DUL is very effective in doing that. it prevents spammers from
> > hiding their activities from their ISP...which ensures that they
> > will be caught and
ted (with quality ranging from poor to truly excellent). most
programming tools (e.g. make and gcc) have excellent documentation.
the problem isn't so much being able to find docs, as knowing where to
start.
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(and
is doomed to cause significant problems in the near future).
> Anyway, you didn't answer to my question !
yes i did. my answer was that you were asking the wrong question.
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(and yes, i do
happen to think that SAUCE is insane, but my opinion - like yours - is
irrelevant because it's his mail server, not yours or mine).
on your machines, your policy applies. on his machines, his policy. simple.
your right to free speech does not include the right to force anyone
else to listen.
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On Fri, Mar 31, 2000 at 11:08:53PM -0500, Branden Robinson wrote:
> On Fri, Mar 31, 2000 at 11:18:47PM +1000, Craig Sanders wrote:
> > your right to free speech does not include the right to force anyone
> > else to listen.
>
> Then this principle must apply universally. I
of it then i could agree with you.
> Thanks for clearing this up for me.
you're welcome. you be sure to have a nice day now.
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drugs, hypnosis
and alien mind-control devices) made us all forget the torture session.
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ps: there is no cabal.
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# dpkg-hold -- command line tool to flag package(s) as held.
#
# by Craig Sanders, 1998-10-26. This script is hereby placed into the
# public domain.
#
# BUGS: this script has absolutely no error checking. this is not good.
if [ -z "$*" ] ; then
echo "Usage:"
how it should be. (Ever used dselect on a
> 9600 serial console? It's fun ;).
twice in one day...this must be the 4th or 5th time i've posted this
script to this list over the years.
---cut here---
#! /bin/bash
# dpkg-hold -- command line tool to flag package(s) as held.
#
# by Cr
because going
through dselect just takes too long).
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packages.
personally, i think that a script which regularly downloaded the index
of available texts, providing a searchable database, and capable of
automatically fetching any one or more of them for you would be more
useful...
and it would be useful to non debian users too. think of it as the ap
ads to a better product and a dedicated user
community. We sincerely hope this will happen also to Jazz++ and
that all users will benifit from this change of license terms. As a
contributing developer, you can really make a difference!
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On Sun, Sep 03, 2000 at 09:07:42PM -0500, Branden Robinson wrote:
> On Mon, Sep 04, 2000 at 12:31:03PM +1100, Craig Sanders wrote:
> > On Mon, Sep 04, 2000 at 03:12:40AM +0200, Enrique Robledo Arnuncio wrote:
> > > I have not found any other free graphical MIDI notator for
>
m
to make sure that everying is running (or not running as the case may
be) exactly as you intend it. take appropriate action when you encounter
any divergence from your desires.
no package manager can read your mind. you're still going to have to do
some of the work yourself.
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another significant issue is that the US state of Virginia has adopted
the DMCA, so accepting that jurisdiction means accepting all of the
onerous terms allowed (and enforced) by the DCMA.
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> After all error checking is stripped off.
fine, sounds good. i have no problem at all with that. quite the
opposite, in fact.
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if i've got the time i'd even be willing to experiment with the
certificate based relay control in postfix-tls (so far i only use it for
smtp encryption, not relay control)
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On Thu, Sep 07, 2000 at 05:48:17AM -0400, Raul Miller wrote:
> On Thu, Sep 07, 2000 at 06:09:31PM +1100, Craig Sanders wrote:
> > it's simple - if you want a service that's worth having, you
> > pay whatever it costs. if you don't want that, then pay for a
> >
e with a clue. if your current ISP can't even get something simple
like DNS working properly then it's unlikely that they can get anything
workingthey don't deserve your money.
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resolves to the IP address of the
incoming connection. these have nothing to do with reverse DNS lookups,
and the question of whether they are good policy or not is debatable
(IMO the former is OK, the latter is not).
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gging him off for being stand-offish and rude.
> RMS should IMHO publically apologize with the KDE people for this
> condescending part of his otherwise correct article. He should be
> wise enough to be careful about the context in which other people
> might consider certain stateme
t; line to "#! /usr/bin/speedy".
mod_perl still has it's uses - speedy and mod_perl perform similar but
far from identical tasks. for some jobs, mod_perl is better while for
other jobs, speedy is better.
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s of libc6 or
the last 10 versions of xbooks would waste an enormous amount of disk
space). if i really need more than one version of a library installed, i
can compile it in /usr/local and set LD_PRELOAD appropriately.
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ILISP is a emacs interface to various lisp-like systems, including
CMUCL and guile (which are already packaged for Debian).
I've already coordinated with the upstream maintainer to have the
debian subdir in the upstream CVS archive.
more 'unstable' boxes as i
need them.
i'm sure that most debian developers have similar experiences with
unstable. it may be too much trouble for the completely clueless but
it's fine for anyone who's not afraid of getting their hands dirty.
the new 'testing' di
lunteer is
> if you have anything at all to do with debian.
there's no need to be so pompous and pretentious. you're just another
volunteer, not the Thought Police.
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-To header created by the
original author of a message.
the Reply-To header exists for the *person* who originally sent the
message to be able to direct replies to their preferred destination. it
is not there so that mailing lists can screw with it.
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f both programs is readily available it should be
easy enough to check this allegation.
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On Wed, Jan 03, 2001 at 11:11:50PM -0700, John Galt wrote:
> On Thu, 4 Jan 2001, Craig Sanders wrote:
> > Mail-Followup-To is the correct header to use.
>
> Mail-Followup-To isn't even a registered header! The closest thing to a
> registry that RFC822 implies is in the han
On Wed, Jan 03, 2001 at 11:15:23PM +0100, Sven Burgener wrote:
> On Wed, Jan 03, 2001 at 05:23:55PM +1100, Craig Sanders wrote:
> > the new 'testing' distribution (sid) should be even better - nearly
> > all the benefits of 'unstable' but tested to at least
t;always" in place of "poster". These usages are
deprecated, but followup agents MAY observe them.
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On Thu, Jan 04, 2001 at 10:43:05AM -0800, Philip Brown wrote:
> [ Craig Sanders writes ]
> > On Wed, Jan 03, 2001 at 11:26:25AM -0800, Philip Brown wrote:
> > > And in the case of the debian mailing lists, you should "reply to" the
> > > list.
> > s
blem solved with a minimum of user
support calls.
there's really no excuse for running (non-ssl) telnetd any more. good
free ssh clients are available for just about every operating system.
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changing it to -j means that an upgraded GNU tar is no longer a drop-in
replacement for older versions of GNU tar.
both options suck.
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't care about
> > compiled in.
>
> IMHO, with the current 2.4.* setup, the difference between compiling your
> own and using the preexisting one is so minimal that most people will be
> able to use the precompiled one rather than building their own.
there's good reason
el .config files and kernel
versions. kernel-package is an outstanding piece of work...manoj has
done some lots of other cool work too, but this by itself is more than
enough to earn a great deal of respect.
if users don't know that this exists or don't realise how useful it is,
then that c
; > exist" bugs against all the excess kernel-image bugs.
>
> Go ahead, I'll close them as soon as they're filed.
and i'll open them again or file new ones.
what you are doing is broken.
> And what does this have to do with our discussion?
it's about as rele
*helps* new users. what you want to do doesn't help at
all, in fact it causes harm.
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stions, and only prompts you to input
answers to new questions.
> I agree that it is not too hard to compile your own kernel. I never
> use Debian's standard kernel-image packages (except on my 68K Mac,
> where it takes too long to recompile).
is there such a thing as cross-compilati
On Sun, Apr 22, 2001 at 03:36:02PM -0700, Aaron Lehmann wrote:
> On Mon, Apr 23, 2001 at 08:33:43AM +1000, Craig Sanders wrote:
> > is there such a thing as cross-compilation for the kernel?
>
> Yes - porting to new architectures would be nearly impossible
> otherwise.
yep, tru
reliably when
you use make -j. this won't be fixed until Keith Owens and others have
got their fixed kernel build system into the kernel tree - that won't
happen until 2.5.x i believe.
i've successfully compiled several kernels using -j3, but it's not
something i'
of
> kernel images needed on boot floppies to one.
you're missing the point again.
nobody is disputing that using initrd was a good idea - it's a useful
tool.
what is being disputed is the package bloat of having dozens of
kernel-image packages taking up approx 110MB for EACH kernel v
6
kernel-headers-2.4.2-k7
kernel-headers-2.4.2-pentium4
kernel-headers-2.4.2-pentiumiii
kernel-headers-2.4.2-pentiumiii-smp
?
it's only one kernel, one source tree...so where do all these different
header files come from? what's the point of them?
if they don't want to do it, they don't have to.
if they can't be bothered, they're not even going to notice the difference
between a 386 kernel and a k7 kernel.
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On Tue, Apr 24, 2001 at 08:39:00AM +1000, Herbert Xu wrote:
> On Tue, Apr 24, 2001 at 08:20:42AM +1000, Craig Sanders wrote:
> > what, exactly, is the difference between kernel-headers-2.4.2 and:
> >
> > kernel-headers-2.4.2-386
> > kernel-headers-2.4.2-586
&
On Tue, Apr 24, 2001 at 08:37:35AM +1000, Herbert Xu wrote:
> On Tue, Apr 24, 2001 at 08:15:03AM +1000, Craig Sanders wrote:
> > On Mon, Apr 23, 2001 at 07:24:13PM +1000, Herbert Xu wrote:
> > > How are they going to compile a kernel if they haven't even installed
> &g
Fabio Massimo Di Nitto <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:
> IPv6 is an official subproject founded by Craig Small, even if we host
> experimental packages outside Debian for various reasons.
I think that might be way, way too formal for what it is. I'm not too
fussed what it is calle
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