t;junk" energy you feel
in the moment of dashing out a publical riposte has long-reaching
negative effects both on yourself and others that I am certain you
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contributions.
And lastly, this is before we consider the aesthetic implications
on the source package namespace. (ie. it's ugly as hell.)
Please re-consider? :)
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else!) unless they were needed or requested, of course.
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package stops being "just another package".
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e or the phrase "Python 2 version" or similar.
This is not asking anyone to remove anything from the archive,
merely to double-check whether the addition of new Python 2.x
packages is required.
(If they are, so be it; add the rationale to the changelog and
upload away.)
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It does, no? The current text is:
Info: This package appears to be the initial packaging of a new upstream
software package (ie. it contains a single changelog entry).
:)
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Not only would this prevent the conversation being fragmented
between the three locations, it would also appear to assist in the
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Neat. http://travis.debian.net/ uses Docker for its builds - would
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readline sed shadow slang2 sqlite3 sysvinit tar tcp-wrappers
tzdata ucf wget zlib
ie. 75 out of "top" 100 packages according to popcon are missing
autopkgtests.
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perfect is the enemy of the good" etc. etc.
> https://ci.debian.net/status/
(I note that these are statistics about packages that actually have
tests.)
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Chris Lamb wrote:
> I can hack together quick things like:
I just noticed that UDD has lintian results, so you can just write
this as:
(Spoilers: I'm not a SQL programmer)
SELECT source, CASE (SELECT COUNT(*) FROM lintian
WHERE package = source AND package_type = 'sourc
erate a bug in the BTS
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were proposing a text for some automated emails to be sent out. I am
requesting some kind of parsable email headers for these automated
messages. :)
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ation that can "detect" binNMUs (ie. SELECT *
FROM packages WHERE version != source_version) there is no timestamp
on this.
We have the "upload_history" relation but that will only give us an
upper limit (roughly 50% of the archive).
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:)
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> > So I wonder if we couldn't do something similar in Debian: a
> > low-hanging-fruit usertag (of course, another name is fine to me...)
>
> Good idea. How about the pre-existing "newcomer" tag:
>
> https://www.debian.org/Bugs/Deve
')] = m.group('version')
dpkg_version = built_using.get('dpkg-dev', '0~missing')
if version_compare(dpkg_version, '1.18.17') == -1:
print("{} needs rebuild (built using dpkg-dev {})".format(
src,
not all problems can be solved
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> Given that we forgot to mention this issue at least once, I would like
> to create a bug in the BTS for it.
>
> This would have the advantages of being a good place to store the
> latest status as well as being a convenient way to link others to it.
I went
s/dep14/
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issue ... which I subsequently cannot link here on debian-devel.
But, hey, I've been told my "use the bugtracker" threshold is set lower
than most... :)
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Description : Encrypt root volumes with an OpenPGP smartcard
This package adds support for encrypted root volumes installing a LUKS
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Hi Alexander,
> Will you try to use PGO for your packages
Note that (naive) implementations of PGO can have ramifications for
reproducible builds [0].
[0] https://reproducible-builds.org/
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and communities at once.
They, frankly, should probably be just ignored or be (loosely)
categorised as spam. I get at least three or four a week these days..
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Hi Holger,
> please *dont* sponsor this until Dashamir has addressed the concerns
> pointed out in
> https://lists.debian.org/msgid-search/aa2d4d3d-41d2-5399-225b-f492be2d2...@t-online.de
(I've added a link to this thread on mentors.debian.net)
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> people how anyway take good care about their packages but not those
> that simply lost interest.
>
> Q: Wouldn't be the ctte another possibilty?
> A: The ctte is another possiblity, but as this process is not
> lightweight at all, I think it isnot suitable to solve this problem, due
> to scalability and because the ctte process is designed to be a
> last-resort possiblity. Many people also do not have the time and energy
> to deal with a tech ctte bug.
>
> Q: How long will this process take?
> A: In total 28 days. After the salvaging bug is filed, the reporter has
> to wait 21 days for a reply, and the package must sit for 7 days in
> the DELAYED queue.
>
> Q: I like the proposal. How to implement it?
> A: Help discussing it. Help implementing it. Come to the BoF.
>
> [g] https://wiki.debian.org/LowThresholdAdoption
>
> Thanks for reading all the text,
>
> --
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> with lots of kudos to bremner, spwhitton and lamby for their valuable
> input and co-editing.
> Email had 1 attachment:
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naturally it cannot be the only venue for Project-wide consensus
building. :)
Now, I'm sure this would happen anyway, but just to reassure.
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to share? That might help focus or
motivate deeper discussion to some degree.
> The discussion can and should of course continue, especially as it is
> vacation time atm.
Combined with post-Debconf tiredness/blues…
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Redis server itself will remain BSD.
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readers and should probably be considered an illegal move in civilised
or otherwise productive conversation.
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devices, mobile applications and browsers to backend services.
This package installs the Protobuf code generator for Python 3.
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This package contains the libraries for Python 3.
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and it looks great to me.
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that was broken, and
before this process there wasn't a known path of how to deal with that. Matter
of fact that's how I started getting into Debian development in the first place.
It is unfortunately not uncommon to find a package [un|under]maintained such
that the pacakg
acutal
issue, and now "feels similar" to the error you're receiving.
If by chance you've run into the same issue, that would be interesting.
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e-ground, which is to add an additional repository to
the sources.list file and add an apt Pin-Priority in /etc/apt/preferences.d/ for
that repository (of say priority 150) such that any installed packages from the
additional repository get updated, but any not-already-installed packages from
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When bfs detects that its output is a terminal, it automatically colors its
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https://tests.reproducible-builds.org/debian/unstable/amd64/stats_pkg_state.png
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hat has happened I would completely agree that we should start thinking
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> at giving guarantess for all packages in main?
[…]
> There is also a certain amount of WTF
Completely agree with all the above. These are all the kind of issues and
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mplemented upstream and benefit users of
>systemd on other distros :)
Indeed! :) For example, here I'm merging upstream's rather more locked
down unit file into the Debian one:
https://bugs.debian.org/871610
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Hi Bastien,
> Lack git-buildpackage, gitpkg, git dpm ...
Support in git-buildpackage is blocked on pristine-tar, but I worked
on that yesterday:
https://bugs.debian.org/cgi-bin/bugreport.cgi?bug=871809#20
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>
> to everyone who contributed. You know who you are and you rock!
I would normally be reluctant to send a "me too" mail, but…
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[3]
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[4] https://ftp-master.debian.org/#lintianrejects
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being equal, packaging something for "main" is more sensible.
Y'know, and it's free software... That whole "thing". :)
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8 byte patch, yet well over 8 hours taken off my life from hair-pulling
etc. until I realised what was going on … *g*
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can only represent timestamps >= 1980, ie. (time_t) 315576060 or
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I — and the rest of the FTP team — are simply busy people.
Anyway, I've processed your package. Please fix the missing attributions
to (at least) Thomas Lumley on your next upload and, if possible, think
carefully about making emotional requests on -devel in future.
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> I think it would certainly be a minority of upstreams that we (Debian)
> would want to trust so thoroughly.
And ones that we have comprehensive testsuites & autopkgtests too … :)
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ng through it.
I would also point out that regardless of the merits of some particular
interpretation, if a perceived violation of it was potentially discovered,
it does not seem a terribly logical defense that "it is been like that
for some time." (So what? :p)
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please file bugs rather than ignoring all of its output! At the very
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>
> Is that a bug? Dunno.
Sure it is...
https://bugs.debian.org/883719
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you believe something should be higher or lower, please simply open a bug
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ling to replace package files and their .md5sum after checking a
replacement .md5sum file that comes with the overlay package. [This idea
comes from exploits on local Debian packages that I've heard about, BTW.]
The catch is that there'd need to be some way of triggering a
re-installation of the overlay if the package that the overlay is for is
reinstalled.
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On Wed, Sep 23, 2015 at 08:39:19PM +0200, Jeffrey Ratcliffe wrote:
> On 23 September 2015 at 00:16, Wouter Verhelst wrote:
> > unzip ; strip ; touch ; grep ; finger ; mount ; fsck ; more ; yes ; umount
> > ; sleep
>
> Has anyone mentioned git?
No, nor split.
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On 07/06/15 11:26, Chris Boot wrote:
[...]
> One of the first tasks on my list is to resolve the issue with
> dependencies and ABI compatibility surrounding the building of ppp
> plugins.
[...]
Hi folks,
During this week's Mini-debconf in Cambridge I have worked a lot on ppp
and I
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On Sun, Jan 10, 2016 at 10:56:21AM +0100, Eric Valette wrote:
> Russ Allbery writes:
>
> >For one specific example, it's become quite clear over the past year that
> >systemd has achieved the same status as abortion debates in US politics.
> >Not only is it clear that we will *never* stop arguing
idea that this was
on the cards. I'm sure I'm not the only one.
Do we need a WNP{Services} to improve the visibility of this kind of thing?
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