On Sat, Aug 29, 2015 at 10:42:13PM +0200, Josselin Mouette wrote:
> Le jeudi 27 août 2015 à 05:22 +0200, Michael Meskes a écrit :
> > Besides, what causes the system to make those package downloads before?
> > I may be behind a slow or expensive line and don't want any downloads
> > performed at al
On Sun, Aug 30, 2015 at 05:38:36AM +0200, Cyril Brulebois wrote:
> Chris Bannister (2015-08-30):
> > On Sat, Aug 29, 2015 at 10:42:13PM +0200, Josselin Mouette wrote:
> > > Le jeudi 27 août 2015 à 05:22 +0200, Michael Meskes a écrit :
> > > > Besides, what causes th
no intention of
making it DFSG-free), and even posts from RMS in the distribution.
Chris
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always free to add additional text somewhere else to address technical
concerns in the documents, for example. And a documentation package that is
not up-to-date can always be dropped from the distribution.
Apologies for not being a free documentation fanatic (even though
As listed in The Hamm Bugs Stamp-Out List for 1998-06-08, p3nfs is still
linked against libc5, and the maintainer, [EMAIL PROTECTED] (Billy
C.-M. Chow) cannot be contacted.
I have looked on ftp.uni-elargen.de:/pub/psion3/local/utilities and found a
glibc diff for ve
Hi,
Originally I thought that it was OK that bug #19085 which I submitted
about poor performance in perl was downgraded from "important" to
"normal" severity because it only affected one application that I
wrote.
But yesterday I upgraded a bo system to hamm which has a 3000 line
/etc/passwd. Now
'Wichert Akkerman wrote:'
>
>Previously Chris Fearnley wrote:
>> But yesterday I upgraded a bo system to hamm which has a 3000 line
>> /etc/passwd. Now adduser takes OVER ONE MINUTE to find a UID and GID
>> for the new user. And my staff is complaining about the
ect sir!"
Still, you might want to see if he'd be amenable to changing the license.
Chris
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, it
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'Darren/Torin/Who Ever... wrote:'
>
>Chris Fearnley, in an immanent manifestation of deity, wrote:
>>But yesterday I upgraded a bo system to hamm which has a 3000 line
>>/etc/passwd. Now adduser takes OVER ONE MINUTE to find a UID and GID
>>for the new user. And
No, I am not running NIS. Just simple text /etc/passwd and /etc/shadow.
On Thu, Jun 18, 1998 at 12:38:45PM -0500, Richard Kaszeta wrote:
> Christopher J. Fearnley writes ("Re: Serious performance bug in Perl"):
> >to call it (instead of the default perl - 5.004.04-6). Performance
> >improved sev
Hi
I'm new to the list,
I just installed debian 2, which went
through fine, now however when I try and compile anything it says gcc is
broke.
when running configure scripts some of them
report that gcc cannot create executables.
Anyone else had this kinda
problem??
Thanks
that IMP can use a secure
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do better.
I think I'd almost rather switch to Red Hat than use the "Beeblebrox"
release. I mean, what's next? Putting pictures of maintainer's pets on
the Debian web page? :-)
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elegant
(IMO) than Debian's. I'd vote for a new logo if I thought anyone would
listen to me.
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rstand
why the KDE team objects to clarifying the KDE license to explicitly
allow linking with Qt. Care to elaborate?
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'd want to be sure! (Unless I had deep enough
pockets to feel that the risk was worth it.) But then I live in the
USA, where people sue at the drop of a hat.
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people are worried that this is all some plot to get rid of him).
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d
the two don't seem to work together at this point.
I think it would really be nice to get a gnome-supporting version of
gtk-- in before the slink freeze. Is anyone working on this?
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of volunteers, why we can't do what we
do with netscape/staroffice/etc.? Even if we can't distribute it, can't
we have a loader package? (No, I'm not volunteering, I don't own a 3dfx
card either.)
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Havoc Pennington wrote:
> On Sun, 11 Oct 1998, Chris Waters wrote:
> > I think it would really be nice to get a gnome-supporting version
> > of gtk-- in before the slink freeze. Is anyone working on this?
> Not really possible without hacking Gtk-- (which can be done, but
ugh.
>
> HTH,
>
> Matthew
>
Yeah, I know...but when I'm writing little 2second programs to check
something I tend to not fuss with returns, etc, etc...
Chris
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In any case, I won't be able to release this until Marcus sorts out the
various flavors of gtk--, because I'll need one with gnome support.
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ame doesn't differ. But maybe you don't care
I hope I don't care; I'll probably also rename the package and make it
conflict with gtkmm just as a quick hack so I don't break my own
system. I'll be anxiously awaiting a more official and reliable
solution, however.
a bug or a 'feature'? (I tend to
feel it gives a missleading impression from the last output - my machine
doesn't crash!!)
Thanks,
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in gnome-base.
Thanks,
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've since tested and found that if you open xv, and press shift '<'
continually until the window becomes small enough, the xserver dies.
Can anyone else verify this?
I am running XF86_SVGA server, at 1280x1024 res, 16-bit. I am running
slink and have updated everyth
The machine just sits there
after a root login, no messages, nothing.
Cannot connect to the machine (from localhost or from other
puters on the network).
What is going on???
Chris
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> unspecified
Are they mentally ill? Let's try "mkfs.nfs" on for size...
Nice to see the Open Group and X/Open are going to send us chasing our
tails trying to get this stuff together (so we can call
d to next/prev message. good, that frees up up and down
> arrow for scrolling the message up and down (the one thing i miss from
> pine).
>
I won't ask how you missed that :) Thats one of the things I really like
about mutt - the fact that you can bind any keys (and combinati
b2.
Unless someone objects strongly, I'd like to bump #30862 up to
important. This is a pretty visible problem IMO.
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work on Debian if they didn't agree with at least the basic outlines of
the DFSG and the Social Contract
cheers
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t the ones we have are much better
than any of the proposals so far. We *don't* have a reasonable license
for the logo. It may not be quite as critical, but I feel it's more
urgent at the moment.
Debian is a free project to distribute a free OS. It should have a free
logo. FREE T
me license or to any
license that meets these guidelines."
> The license my not impose restrictions on third-party software that
> merely resides on the same system or distribution as the licensed
> software.
distribution -> medium
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DFSG... perhaps it would mean that the Social Contract as interpreted
by individual developers would govern what packages are acceptable,
subject to a majority vote to overrule that decision.)
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cluding or
excluding) the terms of the BSD license. And we can drop the patch
clause if desired. But I think this approach of listing acceptable
restrictions on our freedoms is probably the most clear. I think it
might help make the DFSG brief and to-the-point.
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the point. Feedback welcomed. Seconds welcomed.
I would really like to see if we can avoid drowning in legalese for
once. :-)
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e, but perhaps I'm a little crazy. :-)
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ting some notes for
this bit of the document would be useful[2] (if it is thought that apt is
ready for this sort of use).
[1]Useful in UK academia where you have a fast network connection to a
mirror site.
[2] I wish I had the time to do this.
Chris
de xemacs, I can determine that
gnuserv-program's plist is (saved-value ((concat exec-directory
"/gnuserv"))). When I evaluate that, it says that saved-value's
function definition is void. If I execute (concat exec-directory
"/gnuserv"), it looks fine.
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with the FBDev server on m68k. Dunno
if he had to patch it any or not...
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e to the 80 column rule. And if you do find some,
you'll probably find an "open source" author who gets a lot of flames
from his users. :-)
BTW, I loved your analysis of some of the other Corel Guidelines. I
nearly fell off my chair at the "passive voice should be avoided"
proposal to
-policy. I *will* support the idea of making byte-compilation
optional, even if I don't support eliminating it or defaulting to
"off".
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ve to use the HFS options for PowerPC too (so the code's
already there...)
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hen wm=$i; break
fi
done
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e GNOME folks for distribution from
ftp.gnome.org. This was, in fact, one of the original motivations for
setting up the slink staging area.
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worry about. Interestingly enough, Motorola dropped OF
> because it was so damn buggy.
IMHO there's no point in making the APUS installer boot from
CD... people will need to select video cards, etc. Besides which,
most Amigas can't boot from CD anyway...
G
e" feature, which doesn't
appear to have worked in the original anyway. I've also included a
lot of wishlist items from the original bug command (as enumerated
above) and avoided most of the whoppers documented therein.
Chris
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Greetings,
There seems to be enough interest to form PDG-LUG (The Philadelphia
Debian GNU/Linux User's Group).
In order to try to accommodate people with families and suburban Debian
GNU/Linux users, we will have an optional ``social hour'' at a Center
City eatery BEFORE the 8:00 PM meeting.
PDG
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> The wnpp has become exceptionally incorrect and out of date.
> What can we do as a group to fix this?
One suggestion I just tossed out on IRC is to use the BTS
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On May 14, James R. Van Zandt wrote:
>
> >* Version for virtual packages is the date of the report (/MM/DD)
>
> Any chance of making that an ISO-8601 format date instead? That is,
> -MM-DD.
>
>- Jim Van Zan
Shaleh <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> writes:
> properly shows stripped/unstripped (comments from non-x86 people
> here please and non-glibc2.1)
Did you contact upstream about that flakey "fix" they made that didn't
work? See what on earth that was all about?
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tuition here. Ignorance of the law is not a valid legal
excuse for doing something. Being earnest, having puppy-eyes, and
protesting, "I was only trying to help," doesn't cut the mustard.
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e one of the *official* kernel
images, I'm all for it; there's no valid excuses for not using
make-kpkg that I've ever seen.
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the language standard.
But C has its own problems, not least of which is that it's a
primitive procedural language with no built-in OO features to speak
of. And with emphasis on "primitive".
I think an interesting approach would be to use CORBA. Make dpkg into
a networkable server for
Hamish Moffatt <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> writes:
> On Thu, May 20, 1999 at 08:25:17PM +1000, Daniel James Patterson wrote:
> > On Thu, May 20, 1999 at 02:50:38AM -0700, Chris Waters wrote:
> > > I think an interesting approach would be to use CORBA. Make dpkg into
> &
don't want to
use the packaging system. The argument that people can compile
libraries by hand doesn't hold water when it comes to library
dependencies, why should it hold for kernel dependencies? It's not
like make-kpkg is difficult to use, or limiting in any way.
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an?
Never mind. I don't care about the rest of you bums, I want those
downtrodden grovelling at *my* feet! :-)
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Craig Sanders <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> writes:
> someone (miquel, perhaps) made elvis-tiny a year or two back, and it fit
> on the boot disk. would be nice if it could be made to fit again. elvis
> isn't as good as vim, but it's much better than ae.
Better for the experts who know vi, not as good for
" effort, it could
incorporate that too (perhaps in lieu of using "GNU/Linux", though I
guess that would be up to a majority of the paying participants in the
ad).
Any comments?
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ust *fix* ae's most noticable problems? Surely we can do
that without doubling its size (ee is more than twice as large).
This is an *emergency* editor we're talking about here, not something
you'll end up using day after day. It really doesn't need to be
perfect, just good en
re noticable
problems of ae, and *still* come in smaller than ee, there's something
wrong with us.
I'd volunteer, but I've never had a problem with ae. And I don't know
vi well enough to address people's complaints with ae's emulation.
But I suppose I could be persuaded
hat KDE does.
And we can't distribute it at all. It needs to be licensed like Lyx
(GPL with exception for Qt).
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is
(or at least was) notorious for this.
5. Packages that require a specific Debianization aid installed
(debhelper, debmake, yada...).
Some of these can be detected automatically (#5 could be discovered with a
grep on debian/rules, for example), but some can't.
Chris
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his
project... just a few (or, better yet, a bunch of) Debian CD vendors
pooling some resources to (a) give an in-kind contribution of free (to
SPI and everyone else) PR to Debian and (b) give ourselves some
publicity we simply couldn't afford to buy on our own.
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months ago that still hasn't cleared the bank.
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plete Debian *main* binary distribution is around 835 MB for
Intel; a CD can hold 650 MB. Not including the install hierarchy,
etc. So two discs are necessary, even for main.
[These are slink figures; potato will doubtless be bigg
ative to rebuilding for
another 36 hours. (I could go on. RPM is shit, for porters at least.)
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On Sun, Sep 12, 1999 at 05:43:21PM -0400, Brian Almeida wrote:
> How to switch to GnuPG for developers..a very brief mini-HOWTO
> --
Very nice mini-HOWTO. But I still have several questions:
How does one generate an RSA key using the gp
s wasn't working for so long?
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small--medium size system admins) for
splitting?
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gh in practice it's probably just to wait for
the next Linux Expo/LinuxKongress/Linux World/whatever, and
arrange a large-scale Debian meet; that way the conference hall
would be basically free, and we'd get an opportunity to foist a
few copies of Debian off onto some punters.
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; or
something. Personally I think they're ugly as sin (especially
that red `Running LInux' book) -- we could ask nicely?
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atches mentioned at <http://egcs.cygnus.com/faq.html/#linuxkernel>,
and you should be fine. Alternatively (it *should* work if
binutils is sane, and you're pointing at the right gcc),
post the question to one of the egcs lists, and you should
get a quick response
ite a
stressful bit of code to compile (it needs to get good x86
performance), and so things got really tested to the full, w.r.t.
the compiler, but the compiler had bugs, and they had to be
worked around, etc. It's not that pretty.
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of the grep you use gets determined by the argv[0] value,
or are my binaries messed up?
Chris
ve anyone any disk space.
What I think it will save is bandwidth to the `end-user' -- those
using apt-get. Remember that `rsync' has difference functions
in it already.
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On 16 Sep 1999, Michael Alan Dorman wrote:
> I would _hope_, however, that being face to face might have the
> opposite effect.
Yes, I agree, and in all likelihood I think that's what'll happen. :)
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make the rest
up from there. Anyone short (and there will be plenty) can take more;
people not travelling far could do less. What d'ya think?
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On Wed, 15 Sep 1999, Michael Stone wrote:
> How much trouble would it be to add another category--"unreproduced" or
> somesuch?
Yes, or `observational', `possible', that sort of thing. I agree.
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r any other package) should use any
undefined directories (such as /home) for temporary storage.
If people want that, they'll symlink /tmp -> /home/.tmp or something.
Alternatively, is there any other, er, `in bits' way that the
upgrade can be done?
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is tweak a CPU register or two,
or apply some patch to the kernel to make the machine stable on
any kernel you like -- it's worth checking, because the kernel
*shouldn't* have become randomly unstable in 2.0.37.
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cated by Debian (or Herbert, I don't know) in this
way?
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on
> campus during summer)...
For that, try the UK. There are plenty of 'em. Hm, other than that,
I remember a university-affiliated conference centre sort-of thing
I once stayed at in .dk... I wonder where it was. This is what
comes of attending 10 years' worth of singing festivals
thing.
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eview;
bugs don't keep on appearing one after another, like cockroaches,
as they do in ProFTPD.
Read what SuSE said about ProFTPD, and then see how much of it
applies to cron. Not much.
And, also, arguably cron is a more important part of a Unix system
than a specific FTP daemon.
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oducing some kind of automated list of
bugs fixed in each release of Debian; people could visit a list somewhere
showing them precisely which bugs in which packages had been fixed
between their version of Debian and unstable.
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posed).
I'll have to sit down and hack on dpkg-dev to implement it, which may
overcome some of the objections.
Anyway, look in debian-policy's archives from the last 3-4 months.
Chris
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Hey...
I just noticed that wmaker and wmaker-data are up for
adoption. If no one else is working on them, I will take over.
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contains neither AFAICT.]
Filing a bug on src:virtualbox with severity 'wishlist' or 'normal' for this
issue to discuss it with the maintainer of the virtualbox package(s) seems a
logical thing to do.
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Paul Wise:
> On Fri, Nov 9, 2018 at 1:32 PM Chris Knadle wrote:
>
>> A logical place to check or the lack of BIOS virtualization features and
>> show an
>> error message for this would be within the .postinst script for the
>> virtualbox
>> package in
for following up with this retraction.)
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Mattia Rizzolo wrote:
> […] for some reason always involving some German DD, even worse if
> there are multiple ones […]
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Or not! Enjoy our sub-conversation, -devel. :)
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Ian Jackson wrote:
> Daniel Pimentel writes ("Iptables on Sid"):
>
> > I'd like to report a posible bug:
[..]
> Please see this page about how to report a bug:
Actually, I believe this to be already filed as:
https://bugs.debian.org/914074
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this and this is now live.
https://bugs.debian.org/901473#33
(There is some further discussion on this bug.)
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