On Sun September 23 2007 11:00:58 am Manoj Srivastava wrote:
> On Sun, 23 Sep 2007 04:13:41 -0600, Bruce Sass <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> said:
> > On Sat September 22 2007 10:21:43 pm Manoj Srivastava wrote:
> >> On Sat, 22 Sep 2007 03:46:26 -0600, Bruce Sass <[EMAIL PROTE
On Sun September 23 2007 03:08:59 pm Manoj Srivastava wrote:
> On Sun, 23 Sep 2007 14:26:29 -0600, Bruce Sass <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> said:
> > On Sun September 23 2007 11:00:58 am Manoj Srivastava wrote:
> >> We can create any number of dummy packages on the fly, but what is
On Tue September 25 2007 09:22:02 am Manoj Srivastava wrote:
> On Tue, 25 Sep 2007 02:36:24 -0600, Bruce Sass <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> said:
> > On Sun September 23 2007 03:08:59 pm Manoj Srivastava wrote:
> >> On Sun, 23 Sep 2007 14:26:29 -0600, Bruce Sass <[EMAIL PROTECTED]
On Thu September 27 2007 01:33:21 am Manoj Srivastava wrote:
> On Wed, 26 Sep 2007 04:04:33 -0600, Bruce Sass <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> said:
> Hmm? You assumed, and I quote "there are no such situations
> which would not already have a virtual package". Since ther
On Thu September 27 2007 05:38:53 pm Manoj Srivastava wrote:
> On Thu, 27 Sep 2007 08:08:49 -0600, Bruce Sass <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> said:
> > The bit you're still missing is the first part of the question you
> > didn't answer: "Is there any situation where own
Someone wrote:
> If you actually need to make this sort of response, could you do the
> rest of us a favor and not do so publicly?
Ya, you're right. Sorry.
My frustration got the better of me.
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3 => /lib/libdbus-1.so.3 (0x4b18)
libgthread-2.0.so.0 => /usr/lib/libgthread-2.0.so.0 (0x470f8000)
librt.so.1 => /lib/i686/cmov/librt.so.1 (0x46eba000)
/lib/ld-linux.so.2 (0x46bad000)
libpcre.so.3 => /lib/libpcre.so.3 (0xb7856000)
Are these bugs just
On August 10, 2010 04:18:10 am Stanislav Maslovski wrote:
> On Tue, Aug 10, 2010 at 03:15:35AM -0600, Bruce Sass wrote:
> > /sbin and /usr/sbin, /lib and /usr/lib directories?
> >
> > AFAICT, the reason is so that a minimal but functional system is
> > guaranteed to e
On August 10, 2010 04:25:07 am Simon McVittie wrote:
> On Tue, 10 Aug 2010 at 03:15:35 -0600, Bruce Sass wrote:
> > AFAICT, the reason is so that a minimal but functional system is
> > guaranteed to exist so long as a local HDD with a root filesystem
> > is available
>
>
On August 10, 2010 03:53:10 pm Goswin von Brederlow wrote:
> Bruce Sass writes:
> > I was curious so...
> > $ for f in /bin/* /sbin/*; do if [ "`file $f | grep ELF`" != "" ] ;
> > then if [ "`ldd $f | grep /usr`" != "" ] ; then echo
On August 15, 2010 04:30:04 pm Perry E. Metzger wrote:
> On Tue, 10 Aug 2010 03:15:35 -0600 Bruce Sass wrote:
> > /sbin and /usr/sbin, /lib and /usr/lib directories?
> >
> > AFAICT, the reason is so that a minimal but functional system is
> > guaranteed to exist so long
here's a somewhat philosophical thought on the matter...
Currently Debian can only "see" the past (Stable) and present
(Unstable/Testing). Creating an always-consistent-"frozen" category of
packages would let Debian "see" the past (Stable), present (Frozen),
and future (Unstable/Testing).
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yes, number_pad
why, because I don't need to remember what the arrows on the keys mean
- he feels that people will percieve it as an official FSF project
if the GNU comes first. This came as something of a surprise.
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Zenaan Harkness wrote:
This is a brief followup to my earlier queries regarding
debian-enterprise sub project - the new term being Custom D
something. I think we will have failed if there is
only one company doing this. No lock-ins, no lack of choices, please.
That's one of the things wrong with RH/Fedora.
And I think I have the structure to make this work. I'm writing now,
should have something for you later today.
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Bruce
I did a first pass at the UserLinux white paper, it's at
http://userlinux.org/white_paper.html. I think I'll sleep for a while.
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Bruce
That's userlinux.com . I don't have the .org, some domain squatter has
that.
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Bruce
On Tue, Dec 02, 2003 at 12:04:31PM +0000, bruce wrote:
> I did a first pass at the UserLinux white paper, it's at
> http://userlinux.org/white_paper.html. I think I
articipate in something like a userlinux industry group and is unable
to get their vendor to support a low-cost platform, they will of course
have to suffer the consequence of increased cost. In some cases, this
will be an acceptable trade-off for the customer.
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Theodore Ts&#
ple
actually pay list price for commercial distributions
Yes. Group 1 told me what they were paying. It was a substantial
discount, but still way too much.
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system-wide alternates to the
distributed .desktop files. Only having per-user customisation
available really, really, sucks, imo.
and
I regularily use KDE, UWM, pdmenu, and Fluxbox, I also have twm, xfce
and mwm installed... processing the menues takes too much time and
resources as it is, and you want to use up more, for what gain?
- Bruce
but I might not understand the issues if its the opposite.
It is a metter of perspective.
A transition from .desktop to menu only loses if the subsystems using
the menu entries are capable of using the lost data.
HTH
- Bruce
On Tue, 9 Dec 2003, Henning Makholm wrote:
> Scripsit Bruce Sass <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
> > On Tue, 9 Dec 2003, Moritz Moeller-Herrmann wrote:
>
> > > In which format shall application packages store
> > > their menu information.
>
> > It doesn'
r/lib/menu/desktop
> > /usr/lib/menu/desktop/gnome
> > /usr/lib/menu/desktop/kde
>
> But for some reason you're wildly opposed to the idea that .debs can
> contain files that populate these directories. Why?
Huh, I think you need to do some re-reading.
- Bruce
On Thu, 11 Dec 2003, Henning Makholm wrote:
> Scripsit Bruce Sass <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
> > On Wed, 10 Dec 2003, Henning Makholm wrote:
>
> > > Have you quantified the "bloat" you are speaking about? Can the same
> > > argument not apply to any i18n effo
On Fri, 12 Dec 2003, Chris Cheney wrote:
> On Wed, Dec 10, 2003 at 01:28:51PM -0700, Bruce Sass wrote:
<...>
> .desktop files are not bloated... period. They include i18n which for
> you is bloat since you obviously can communicate in English.
"not bloated... period
On Fri, 12 Dec 2003, Chris Cheney wrote:
> On Fri, Dec 12, 2003 at 05:47:17PM -0700, Bruce Sass wrote:
> > On Fri, 12 Dec 2003, Chris Cheney wrote:
> > > On Wed, Dec 10, 2003 at 01:28:51PM -0700, Bruce Sass wrote:
> > <...>
> > > .desktop files are not blo
On Fri, 12 Dec 2003, Moritz Moeller-Herrmann wrote:
<...>
> Of course the system can and will be improved, once it is generally adopted.
Improving it at the outset will speed up its adoption.
On Sat, 13 Dec 2003, Billy Biggs wrote:
> Bruce Sass ([EMAIL PROTECTED]):
>
> > The above is just the tip of the iceberg with respect to i18n, I had
> > roughly the same size savings when I was removing translations from
> > KDE2 files---KDE3 has more files, more tran
Jon Kent <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> writes:
[...]
> What we need to accept is there is a (percieved??)
> problem, or problems, with Debian as it stands today,
> these being (mainly)
>
> Hard to install (rubbish obviously)
> Out of date (this _is_ true)
> Slow to update (this _is_ true)
> Hard to configu
Andreas Dilger <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> writes:
[...]
> I'm sure all the FSF/Debian folks would be thrilled if someone
> changed the code in [x]emacs to not output anything about the GPL at
> startup, or if vim didn't include any info about helping Ugandan
> orphans.
XEmacs and Emacs follow sensible
"Bao C. Ha" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> writes:
> On Mon, Apr 08, 2002 at 11:03:11AM -0500, Donald J Bindner wrote:
>
> Hi Donald,
>
>>
>> Let me see if I understand this. I am running VMWare 2.0.4 and
>> this morning I discovered that it dies with:
>>
>> VMware Workstation PANIC:
>> AIO: NOT_IMPL
ystem last
shutdown could be used to skip all that since RAMTMP=yes implies TMPTIME=0
regardless of the setting in /etc/default/rcS.
- Bruce
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On June 2, 2012 03:48:03 AM Serge wrote:
> 2012/6/2 Bruce Sass wrote:
> >> Maintainer will probably write a better code.
> >
> > Much better... if TMPTIME != 0 it will be necessary to mount the FS based
> > /tmp, clean it, create a tmpfs, move anything left in /tm
guy building UDE from source)
As someone pointed out earlier, there are lots of different tastes when it
comes to window manager-like software... I expect there are more tastes than
available WMs--so, the more the merrier as long as its maintained.
- Bruce
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desktop boxes).
> OTOH it is a common setup to share / over NFS.
Unfortunately, when / is imported over NFS the box is effectively a door stop
when networking fails, and if it doesn't have an optical drive you can only
troubleshoot from one end of the connection.
- Bruce
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up the web of trust. I met two Debian devs at last year's Google SoC
summit, and asked them to sign, but could use more. Is anyone in the
project within a reasonable drive of New Orleans?
Thanks,
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On May 9, 2011 08:48:25 am Teodor MICU wrote:
> To conclude, "unstable-next" suite (or some other name [2]) is a
> requirement for "rolling" [3].
>
> Thanks
>
> [2] but not "experimental"
...unless the nature of experimental is changed, and its
s disappear. The statement "A|B|C" should mean that A is the best
choice from a technical perspective (stability, functionality, etc.) Those of
you who don't want to pollute you system with non-DFSG-free packages can
simply avoid putting contrib and/or non-free in your sources.l
On September 22, 2011 02:50:25 AM Gerfried Fuchs wrote:
> * Bruce Sass [2011-09-21 23:18:54 CEST]:
> > On September 20, 2011 02:24:33 PM Stefano Zacchiroli wrote:
> > > On Tue, Sep 20, 2011 at 01:12:37PM +0200, Gerfried Fuchs wrote:
> > > > tl;dr - what do you thi
On September 22, 2011 12:06:11 PM Steve Langasek wrote:
> On Thu, Sep 22, 2011 at 08:19:32AM -0600, Bruce Sass wrote:
> > > So *every* time a package outside of main is an installation candidate
> > >
> > > the decision should be made, not once, very much indeed.
&
On September 22, 2011 12:23:00 PM Jonas Smedegaard wrote:
> On 11-09-22 at 08:19am, Bruce Sass wrote:
> > On September 22, 2011 02:50:25 AM Gerfried Fuchs wrote:
> > > * Bruce Sass [2011-09-21 23:18:54 CEST]:
> > > > Debian already favours Main packages by def
On September 22, 2011 05:54:02 PM Adam Borowski wrote:
> On Thu, Sep 22, 2011 at 05:14:32PM -0500, Matt Zagrabelny wrote:
> > Hi Bruce,
> >
> > >> > I hope Debian would honour the Social Contract and put the needs of
> > >> > the users ahe
On Sun, 17 Jan 1999, M.C. Vernon wrote:
> On Sun, 17 Jan 1999, Bruce Sass wrote:
> > On Sun, 17 Jan 1999 [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:
> > <...> Pine is simpler to use,
> > > but it's a pity about the license.
> >
> > Go on, please.
>
> It's n
for which a fee may be charged for the
>packaged distribution.
... but it is ok to charge for a distribution if you are producing CD's.
> The above also makes it non-free.
? If Pine is non-free, then it is non-free.
Why does non-free == no modified binaries?
later,
Bruce
I have the TIGER data ready to mail to Dale. This is the U.S. street map
data which I am distributing under the GPL. It fit on 5 CDs rather than 6
after re-compression with bzip2.
Thanks
Bruce
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> Might take a while to download via modem... :-)
That's OK, the uncompressed raw data won't fit on your disk anyway. 25 GB.
This gets chopped down to one full CD, in a sort of binary format, for use.
Bruce
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th rpm's version handling
and dpkg's package management.
later,
Bruce
How close to 3.0 does the 2.2 kernel get Debian?
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On Thu, 21 Jan 1999, Brent Fulgham wrote:
> I say let's make the 2.2 image a high-profile aspect of slink's release.
> The kernel is very stable, and I've been running my Debian system on it
> since 2.1.1
to be before they
would become interested?
Could Debian handle the `master plan' approach required(?)
for such an undertaking?
later,
Bruce
Debian is mentioned in my chapter of the O'Reilly book. You can read the
draft at http://www.hams.com/OSD.html .
Thanks
Bruce
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Hi:
I am preparing an article on the pros and cons of general releases for
The New Stack, both for users and for developers.
Anyone have any thoughts? I may use any comments unless the sender
specifically asks me not to.
Thanks for any thoughts,
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Hi:
I am writing an article about the pros and cons of Ubuntu's snappy
packages, which have recently been ported to a number of major
distributions.
If anyone has any experience with them, I would appreciate hearing their
opinions, especially about how they compare to debs.
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hing like df I think the sensible thing to do is just to
continue to list all bind mounts, even when it's redundant.
For a graphical tool I think you'd only want one visual object for each
filesystem, but you'd want all the paths that filesystem is mounted on
listed, so you might en
On Thu, Feb 10, 2005 at 06:30:41PM +0100, Marco d'Itri wrote:
> On Feb 10, "J. Bruce Fields" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:
>
> > In something like df I think the sensible thing to do is just to
> > continue to list all bind mounts, even when it's redun
Rob Browning wrote:
>
> I had posted earlier about a problem getting Debian 1.2/1.3 installed
> on a 365x thinkpad. Several solutions were offered and in the end it
> turned out that the people claiming that some thinkpads could not
> handle the bzImage format were correct. It was not the
> "flo
Bruce Perens wrote:
>
> From: Erv Walter <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
> > Well, i had trouble booting a toshiba tecra with bzImages except via
> > loadlin. The solution was to use a simple zImage instead of the
> > bzImage. Now, lilo, syslinux, etc all work.
>
>
0 Jan 14 14:54 TMP2
It's just cross-directory hardlinks that AFS doesn't like:
%mkdir TMP3
%ln TMP TMP3/FOO
ln: creating hard link `TMP3/FOO' to `TMP': Invalid cross-device link
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On Tue, Aug 30, 2005 at 09:32:58AM +0200, Simon Josefsson wrote:
> I expect the initial packaging to be simple, it is just a './configure
> && make install' package. Part of the 'make install' procedure should
> be duplicated in the apt install scripts, for the KDC side, but that
> part is not imp
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