Almost all languages are easy to write badly.
But some are easier than others. Both C++ and Perl come to my mind
when I think of bad programming practices and swiss army chainsaws.
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sources the user's ~/.cshrc file so as to report user aliases. The
Debian which is really a completely different command.
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oaded as 7.3.3 instead. The epoc is designed to handle this
problem and allows 1:0.7.3.3 to be later than 7.3.3 to fix that
situation. But that is not the case here and the epoc can be avoided.
Bob
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can remove leaving configuration
files or you can purge taking off the configuration files too. I
think you are asking for a new type of install target where a package
is only partially installed. I could see the utility of that but
there is no support for it in the code at this moment.
Bob
si
mail MTAs installed. It
is the same problem as being discussed with imapd. This mechanism
could be used there too.
An alternative is the xdm/gdm/kdm way of coordinating between the
packages. That works too. It could be enough to have packages that
listen on a port coordinate with each other.
range of
(avoding the name here) in Google so that when they search for it that
Google actually points them to the right place.
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h. And at least
someone will contrive an example that matches but is otherwise valid
and complain about it.
Perhaps we should call upon everyone who reads Debian lists to, as
their sacred duty, blog somewhere at least three hits to the upstream
sites as a way to artifically promote them higher? :-/ (
his message to
avoid getting spam.
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they are installed.
> Perhaps we finally get to the conclusion that it doesn't belong there.
> :)
Let's hope so.
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t not
ultimately enabled to break things. Sure they can try a social
engineering attack against root to break in but I try to avoid working
with such antisocial people. The 'staff' group is a useful shade of
grey that lives between the black and the white.
I think it would be bad to overl
init.d/bind9 script does not
call 'lsb_release' and therefore this issue seems to have been
addressed in the latest Squeeze.
Bob
P.S. On my 2004 1.8GHz Pentium M laptop:
$ time lsb_release -is
Debian
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done. And once I realized that it did that I resolved not to use such
packages. If they would do that then what other nasty business would
they include that I didn't find?)
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nothing and die after some time.
You should remove the symlink. Then install the package.
> I'm new with Debian. Would to help me?
For future help the debian-u...@lists.debian.org mailing list would be
a better place to ask these types of questions. Please ask future
questions ab
L:
... No need to install postfix since it is already installed. ...
# service sendmail stop
# chkconfig --del sendmail
# alternatives --set mta /usr/sbin/sendmail.postfix
# checkconfig postfix on
# service postfix start
Example for setting up Postfix on Debian:
# apt-get install postfix
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timestamps of the files for when the patch was made and remove the
build depends on automake. Although the previous discussion made good
arguments both directions. I believe either of the methods are good
as long as you champion the process to completion.
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touch --no-create configure.ac \
&& touch --no-create aclocal.m4 \
&& touch --no-create configure \
&& touch --no-create config.h.in \
&& touch --no-create $(find . -name Makefile.in)
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27;t claim that is common conception.
> >
> Well, I can back that up. A Gnome association swept to the surface of
> my mind when I read the package name, too,
If you are asking for votes then I as well prefer something other than
gsysutils and gnu-sysutils seems appropriate.
Bob
to it. They are aliases
to the same program providing different names.
ln -s fromdos $(tempdir)/$(package)/usr/bin/todos
ln -s fromdos $(tempdir)/$(package)/usr/bin/dos2unix
ln -s fromdos $(tempdir)/$(package)/usr/bin/unix2dos
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ways to
plan ahead then the version would go away without either. In general
this is only a problem when people forget to plan ahead.
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up anything at all. But it is worth a try.
cd /var/lib/dpkg/info
grep /tmp/root *
That is where the post install scripts reside. Perhaps one of the
packages you installed has a post install script which created that.
A shot in the dark.
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tion rather than "expert" mode. After an easy mode
installation it takes a wet week to do anything at all (on a Pentium 233 box).
The same distro on the same box is quite quick after a so called expert
mode install.
Bob
eporter is running a 2.4.19 kernel with the XFS patch and
SMP support. Are there any known issues with the XFS patch and SMP
support that could contribute to this problem?
Is anyone running dictd with a 2.4.19 kernel with the XFS patch and
SMP support?
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Especial thanks to Craig for installing dictd on a machine with a
2.4.19 kernel with XFS and SMP for testing. This can be removed
whenever you like.
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> testing to unstable to stable?
http://www.debian.org/devel/testing
You can find that link by going to the main Debian site and seeing
"Developers's Corner" and following that to work in progress section
where you find "The testing distribution".
Good luck with your project!
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Bjorn Stenberg wrote:
> Bob Proulx wrote:
> > Just minor searching through the archive turned these up with relevent
> > discussion.
>
> These posts, as your reply in debian-testing, concern packages that are not
> Valid Candidates.
But they did concern how testing ope
o accomplish what
you suggest one would need to manually build on all of the Debian
supported architectures using testing or stable and then upload the
binary builds for all architectures. And there may be other gotchas
too.
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> like "setting dtime of deleted inode" on fsck.
Except for the uptime wars (2 years 2 weeks!, between power outs here)
I generally reboot servers monthly. This has the added benefit that
it also ensures that the servers will boot cleanly and an admin has
not broken something with a manual tweak.
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them bound to libc. Of the
difficult ones to restart automatically almost certainly every user
shell and every ssh session would be attached. Those would need to be
killed which cannot be done automatically.
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unacceptable.
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g. the Euro-Symbol with "EUR".
Without //TRANSLIT, iconv fails if DST-ENCODING is US or ASCII,
but with //TRANSLIT, all characters that aren't included in ASCII are
rendered as `?'. This useful, but not as useful as the conversions
performed by recode. Where
; »§« (I do not think there is one), it would be nice if iconv's
> exit-status reflected whether questionmarks were used, but changing
> this would probably break existing software.
I agree oe is much better than "o, but I can't get that:
bob:vc-p2:bob>echo ö§ | iconv
connect socket: Connection refused
This message returns almost instantly - too quickly, I believe,
to be a connection refused at the remote server.
Can this be a socket on my machine that refuses a connection?
I have rdate 1.3-3.
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>
> | This has worked consistently for a long time, but for the past
> | week or two it returns:
> | rdate: Could not connect socket: Connection refused
> |
> | This message ret
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Debian-specific terms.
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he Debian package.
If you submit proposed new definitions to me, I will add them to
the Debian package. Acronyms without a separate definition would go
into vera, while terms with definitions, and acronyms for these terms,
go into foldoc.
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On Thu, Apr 18, 2002 at 11:52:53PM +0200, Russell Coker wrote:
> On Thu, 18 Apr 2002 15:32, Michael Piefel wrote:
> > The Crash
> > Well, simply, it was the wrong kernel. The guide recommends to install
> > a new kernel with: apt-get install kernel-image-2.4.18-{386,586tsc,686}
> > However, the s
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atus -sPackage -n -FStatus "deinstall ok config-files")
Don't forget about the "deborphan" and "orphaner" packages either.
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P.S. AWK is design to operate by fields. I am sure I am not the only
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*** Please consider answering these questions, where appropriate ***
* What led up to the situation?
I have 3 or 4 debian machines attached to a Zonet KVM3304 4 port KVM switch. I
usually keep at least 2 of them on most of the time. Thus
us
from having them because humans are clever and will find a way to do
what we want anyway. It simply makes it more painful for us to have
them.
Therefore I think if an admin sets up a custom environment that this
environment should be used. Or at least not actively prevented from
being used.
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James McCoy wrote:
> Bob Proulx wrote:
> > James McCoy wrote:
> > > I keep contemplating packaging ex-vi and advocating to replace vim-tiny
> > > with that. After all, the intent is to have something providing
> > > /usr/bin/vi, as one expects to have
those
unrepresented people!
Here is an actual live production policy-rc.d from a system where the
web server is being run inside of a chroot. I think the intention is
obvious. Is there any other way to accomplish this other than using
the policy-rc.d? Trying to manage the startup with update-r
Russ Allbery wrote:
> Bob Proulx writes:
> > Maybe I am missing a better alternative?
>
> update-rc.d disable
No. That is too late. By the time you are disabling something it has
already been installed and started in postinst scripts. Using
policy-rc.d is the only way to
is in /bin/ip and always available in PATH. It is
the currently recommended swiss-army chainsaw network tool. Give it a
try.
$ ip addr show
Or:
$ ip addr show eth0
And of course you can add the sbins to your PATH in .profile so that
you have what you want always. (I always add the sbin&#
27;rm -f' since it avoids the query. Since I don't
think that will ever produce a bad result. (Is there ever a bad
result case?)
Of course if there is a plan to move the /var/lib/dpkg/info path
elsewhere then the path should be obtained dynamically and properly
quoted. But is that ever really a potential possibility?
Bob
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things were changed to force users to create a dummy top level page
and enable the server then it would add additional required work over
what is done now.
> The RedHat assumptions on this issue make me as unhappy as the Debian
> ones appear to make you unhappy. I suggest that this is jus
Andrei POPESCU wrote:
> Andreas Beckmann wrote:
> > now might be the right time to start a discussion about release goals
> > for jessie.
>
> How about setting default umask for users (uid >= 1000) to 002?
+1. It would be a useful default.
Bob
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others to use)" does that mean this will count as a vote toward having
systemd as a default? If I respond that "I don't want systemd in
Debian (as a default)" will that count as a vote that systemd should
not be available in Debian as an option for others?
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> running a non-desktop system (by this I take it to mean that you're not
> using a GUI), why would you worry about GNOME's dependencies anyhow?
Here is an example: The emacs24-nox package, a typical headless server
package for many of us, depends upon dbus. Feature creep.
Bob
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nd be done with it. That is still the way I do things on servers.
But on servers I don't install resolvconf. However on mobile devices
that roam from network to network resolvconf rocks!
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driver, mention is
made of the fact XAA support went bye-bye, and the attempted use of EXA
causes looping segfaults on X server startup. Only current workaround
is to disable acceleration. Truly a case of "bad breath is better than
no breath".
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> On Sat, 2013-09-28 at 10:16 -0500, Bob Tracy wrote:
> > On Sat, Sep 28, 2013 at 02:29:05PM +0100, Jurij Smakov wrote:
> > > On Thu, Sep 26, 2013 at 10:26 PM, Julien Cristau
> > > wrote:
> > > &g
Luca Capello wrote:
> I disagree on that, according to popcon we have 19.27% of users has
> postfix installed, which could mean that ~90% of users has an MTA
> installed.
Doesn't popcon itself send reports by email? Meaning that 100% of all
reports from popcon have an MTA i
Wouter Verhelst wrote:
> Bob Proulx wrote:
> > Doesn't popcon itself send reports by email? Meaning that 100% of all
> > reports from popcon have an MTA installed?
>
> No, popcon can also report through HTTP.
Ah... Very good. I stand corrected. And what's m
tion. If sudo is to be used then of
course sudo itself needs to be configured and working too. Again the
debian-installer does this automatically if only a user password is
given at install time.
Hope this helps,
Bob
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have to type in "some-specific-name-to-some-program" either.
The balance in the middle isn't trivial.
Bob
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Ian Jackson wrote:
> (b) ask on info-gnu.
Just fyi for the future but info-gnu isn't the place to ask questions.
It is for official GNU announcements only, no follow-ups, no
discussions. Discussions should happen on other lists.
Bob
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signa
Ian Jackson wrote:
> Bob Proulx writes ("Re: Is anyone using the Units program in a script?"):
> > Ian Jackson wrote:
> > > (b) ask on info-gnu.
> >
> > Just fyi for the future but info-gnu isn't the place to ask questions.
> > It is for
esize2fs, and probably most file
> systems. Online shrinking is a very rare feature.
Even when offline it is not univerial to have shrinking available.
For example xfs does not provide a way to shrink a filesystem either
online or offline. A sorely missed feature in an otherwise excelle
h is of course what it would show) then how
would having this data help or hinder either side?
I will be one of the disenfranchised if /usr is deprecated.
Bob
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corruption it
> ussually screws up more than the files covered by the md5sums.
The use case for debsums is for *detection* of corruption. And
neither is it a security mechanism. But it is a useful integrity
check mechanism.
Bob
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r usage question and so should go to the users
mailing list not the development mailing list.
For support in your problem I would start here:
https://wiki.ubuntu.com/UbuntuUsersListFAQ
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the doesn't build twice problem.
> >
> > And/or on the technical side, make the buildds always build twice.
>
> Sounds like a waste of resources.
Not every architecture needs to build twice. If only the fastest
building architecture built twice it would catch almost all of the
problems with no change in resources elsewhere.
Bob
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to making this easy for users to do.
They could then simple follow recipies to good practices. Without
good clear documentation they will be left to their own and will do
what is easiest.
http://wiki.debian.org/PHP
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problem yesterday. Thank you for working to fix it.
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The web mail archive doesn't thread across months. Here are
continuing months of discussion:
https://lists.gnu.org/archive/html/bug-gzip/2010-12/threads.html
https://lists.gnu.org/archive/html/bug-gzip/2011-01/threads.html
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Tollef Fog Heen wrote:
> > Russ Allbery wrote:
> > > Bob Proulx writes:
> > > > Maybe I am missing a better alternative?
> > >
> > > update-rc.d disable
> >
> > No. That is too late. By the time you are disabling something it has
&
ok at? I want to turn this process off.
Look in /var/log/syslog and hopefully something will be logged there.
Look in 'ps -ef' and see if anything is shown associated with the tty
device.
Bob
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Joachim Breitner wrote:
> schrieb Raphael Geissert:
> > infrastructure under the name of httpredir.debian.org.
>
> will http.debian.net continue to work?
Or better yet could http.debian.org be set up to work too?
Bob
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> Ah, that's a good set of default settings. Perhaps a modified
> settings.js and an explanation of how to use it could be included with
> the iceweasel package?
+1
>
> Also, what advantages does IceCat have over the Tor Browser? (Debian
> doesn't have the Tor Browser either, due to the impossibility of long
> term maintenance, but just wondering.)
Have a look at torbrowser-launcher in synaptic
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A fair fight is the result of poor planning.
that
are not included in 2.9.
Dirk Eddelbuettel <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> writes:
> Bob> I would like to see this feature continued if it isn't in 2.9-1
> Bob> by default.
>
> Note that the license currently states that distributing modified versions of
> mirro
ral days and missed any announcements.
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0.33 package are added.
I don't have a FAT32 system to check it, but there are several FAT32
references in the files in fs/fat/* which lead me to conclude that it
probably is there (maybe in a different form than the patches).
As usual, the documentation lags the code, of course.
Bob
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autoup.sh is located, and path to the hamm files.
If Igor wanted to incorporate the autoup.sh README in
install.txt, that would eliminate the need to include it as a separate
file on the CD
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> Bob Hilliard <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> writes:
> > There is a README for autoup.sh on
> > {ftp|http}://debian.vicnet.net.au/autoup/.
> >
> > Both the README and autoup.sh should have a separate (simplified)
>
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>
> Bob Hilliard <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> writes:
> > I will be out of town after tomorrow for about a week, so I won't
> > be able to do anything on the README before then, but I don't think
> > 2.0 will b
e files.
Likewise 2.0.7pre4, however diff shows they are identical. I'm not sure
how well diff works with binaries however. The files have identical
sizes.
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> Where did you get a pre4? I don't think I released one...
Oops, I meant pre1-4. Sorry about that.
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>
> I thought 2.2 was going to be "rc", and 3.0 would be "woody". Johnnie
> Ingram was pushing for that one, as were a few others.
But didn't an even earlier discussion conclude that "woody" should be
bypassed as it would be offensive to some people.
Bob
> The namespase lasts for five more releases. Or do I misunderstand
> something?
That's from the credits, but there are some more :
r.c. (mentioned previously)
molly
snake
robot
etch
mike
mr. spell
lenny
claw
There were a few others, but I couldn't pick out the names from the
soundtrack.
Bob
On Mon, 5 Oct 1998, Joseph Carter wrote:
> On Mon, Oct 05, 1998 at 09:57:24AM -0500, [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:
> > I had to deal with this idiocy back in the eighties when I was building
> > computers which may have qualified as 'munitions'.
>
> And remember that books are the purest form of evil
rprises, Inc. and Boeing
Co. discourage use of freeware, although some allow special use. Some
fear viruses.
The City of Garden Grove, Calif. has used a Linux-based network
since 1995.
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>
> This is obviously a problem, since I'm currently using pgp2.62ui which can't
> verify pgp 5 keys.
What is the status of gnupg? Is there a Debian package available? It is
shown as 'recommended' by debian-keyring, but doesn't seem to exist.
Bob
Bo
=> "/home/Debian/ftp/private/project/Incoming/",
mailto => "[EMAIL PROTECTED]", # stable, contrib, non-free
mailtx => "[EMAIL PROTECTED]", # unstable, exper.
visibleuser => "hilliard",
visiblename => "deb
It seems that all the hamm and slink packages files, as well as those for
contrib and non-free (but not main) in potato are currently missing on
three mirrors I have checked today.
Agggh!
Bob
Well, I have ldd also, but don't see the connection.
???
Bob
On Wed, 20 Jan 1999, Paul McDermott wrote:
> here is what i get when doing a dpkg -S ldd
> [paul:~]$ dpkg -S ldd
> ldso: /usr/man/man1/ldd.1.gz
> ldso: /usr/bin/ldd
> tetex-base: /usr/lib/texmf/fonts/source/public
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