On Sun, Jan 08, 2006 at 07:49:33PM +1100, Matthew Palmer wrote:
> On Sun, Jan 08, 2006 at 09:02:09AM +0100, Stephan Hermann wrote:
> > On Sunday 08 January 2006 07:27, Andrew Suffield wrote:
> > > On Fri, Jan 06, 2006 at 03:19:42PM -0500, Frans Jessop wrote:
> > > >
SARS thing, and avian flu, and all that?
And I want a pony.
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On Sun, Jan 08, 2006 at 11:44:57AM +0100, Stephan Hermann wrote:
> On Sunday 08 January 2006 10:39, Andrew Suffield wrote:
> > On Sun, Jan 08, 2006 at 07:49:33PM +1100, Matthew Palmer wrote:
> > > On Sun, Jan 08, 2006 at 09:02:09AM +0100, Stephan Hermann wrote:
> > > >
er than you) actually cares what method
such users use, so long as it does not affect us.
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re complicated than that, they means they're
getting worried that they won't like the
truth. People as things, that's where it
starts."
Mightily Oats: "Oh,
ta>
> etc...
I shall upload some of Manoj's pornography immediately.
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ty in his actions, and probably less actual
insult.
Dishonesty is *not* an equivalent substitute for respect. If you're
being nice to somebody even though you don't like them, that doesn't
make you a better person, it just makes you a l
the distinction between Canonical and any other
company is pretty much nothing - except for their continual, offensive
PR effort claiming otherwise.
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On Tue, Jan 10, 2006 at 12:22:03AM -0200, Gustavo Franco wrote:
> I don't[sic] the same rant over others Debian related companies
Have you ever actually subscribed to any Debian mailing lists?
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? Is it an unecessary fork? Or is it
> not contributing back its changes to debian software?
I think it's the pretending that pisses people off.
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On Tue, Jan 10, 2006 at 11:07:43AM -0200, Gustavo Franco wrote:
> On 1/10/06, Andrew Suffield <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:
> > On Tue, Jan 10, 2006 at 12:22:03AM -0200, Gustavo Franco wrote:
> > > I don't[sic] the same rant over others Debian related companies
&
On Wed, Jan 11, 2006 at 09:49:25AM -0600, Ron Johnson wrote:
> On Wed, 2006-01-11 at 15:41 +0000, Andrew Suffield wrote:
> > On Tue, Jan 10, 2006 at 12:43:16PM -0600, Ron Johnson wrote:
> > > Manners/politeness is social lubricant. It makes society run
> > >
On Wed, Jan 11, 2006 at 02:56:35PM -0200, Gustavo Franco wrote:
> On 1/11/06, Andrew Suffield <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:
> > On Tue, Jan 10, 2006 at 11:07:43AM -0200, Gustavo Franco wrote:
> > > On 1/10/06, Andrew Suffield <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:
> > > >
On Wed, Jan 11, 2006 at 03:25:01PM -0200, Gustavo Franco wrote:
> On 1/11/06, Andrew Suffield <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:
> > On Wed, Jan 11, 2006 at 02:56:35PM -0200, Gustavo Franco wrote:
> > > On 1/11/06, Andrew Suffield <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:
> > > >
s also wrong.
I don't think it's any real surprise that people dislike this sort of
behaviour.
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; but if it works for you it's obviously
> more complicated...
>
> Regards, Frank
The ftp: url at http://www.aczoom.com/itrans/#download works just fine in
Konqueror. From the console
$ftp ftp.aczoom.com
Name (ftp.aczoom.com:andrew): [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Password:aczoom.com
is also fine.
Andrew
On Wed, Jan 11, 2006 at 03:41:16PM -0800, Matt Zimmerman wrote:
> On Wed, Jan 11, 2006 at 11:09:12PM +0000, Andrew Suffield wrote:
> > Let's take this one apart and see what it is that pisses people off so
> > much.
>
> I don't intend to participate in this type o
etric that complains about any other packages
(I've tried two or three times to invent one).
Sure, you could just manually exclude those few big offenders, but if
you're going to do that then what's th
On Thu, Jan 12, 2006 at 05:31:40PM -0200, Gustavo Franco wrote:
> On 1/12/06, Andrew Suffield <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:
> > On Wed, Jan 11, 2006 at 03:41:16PM -0800, Matt Zimmerman wrote:
> > > On Wed, Jan 11, 2006 at 11:09:12PM +, Andrew Suffield wrote:
> > >
ast two ways to accomplish this.
If they fail to contribute in a meaningful way, it just means more
work for them (in trying to maintain a diverging fork). Hence, that's
their problem. It's not really a problem for us.
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On Thu, Jan 12, 2006 at 03:11:58PM -0500, Joey Hess wrote:
> Andrew Suffield wrote:
> > Well it's nice in theory. The problem is that you have to set the
> > threshold high enough to exempt glibc and dpkg, and when you do that,
> > I have not yet found a metric that
m part of the "Debian world"?
Intuitively, I would not expect any standard to classify any of the
current derivatives as 'part of the Debian world'. We have very little
interaction with any of them.
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etter cooperation so that WE can fill the
> gap by taking part of their work.
Did you really just say "we should cooperate better so that we can do
Ubuntu's work for them"? The arrogance of such a statement is only
surpass
If you can't understand sarcasm, why didn't you read the part for
people who can't understand sarcasm?
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On Sat, Jan 14, 2006 at 05:55:14PM +0100, Raphael Hertzog wrote:
> On Sat, 14 Jan 2006, Andrew Suffield wrote:
> > > That's simply wrong given the many people who use both and who cares about
> > > both.
> >
> > By this reasoning, Windows is 'part
On Sat, Jan 14, 2006 at 06:20:40PM +0200, Sami Haahtinen wrote:
> Andrew Suffield wrote:
> > If you can't understand sarcasm, why didn't you read the part for
> > people who can't understand sarcasm?
>
> I read the part about sarcasm and i partially argee w
anything wrong other than holding opinions you don't agree with, and
you certainly can't put any evidence behind that 'detrimental to the
project' claim, but *you* are pursuing a personal vendetta. Agai
like you missed the point of that mail, despite
quoting it. What did you think the point was? Alternatively, what do
you think is the correct mailing list for contacting (all of) the
developers about appropriate use of d-d-a?
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On Sat, Jan 14, 2006 at 11:24:06PM +, Roger Leigh wrote:
> Andrew Suffield <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> writes:
>
> > On Sat, Jan 14, 2006 at 05:51:03PM +, Roger Leigh wrote:
> >> >> If you still can't take the hint, I'll be more blunt: this isn't th
Aren't we in a similar situation with other stuff that is in main already?
rsync springs to mind.
regards
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per-file level.
I realise that update-inetd needs to be more flexible than just servicing
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On Sat, 2006-02-18 at 14:19 +0100, Josh Hurst wrote:
Does the Debian ksh93 package include libast and libshell?
No -
dpkg -L ksh
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/usr
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/usr/share/man/man1
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/usr/share/man/man1/shcomp.1.gz
Hi
On Wed, 1 Mar 2006 19:23, Panu Kalliokoski wrote:
> Description : A converter from structured plaintext to multiple
> formats
What formats?
Please be a little more verbose.
Andrew
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oduct IDs for your device (determined from
the output of "lsusb") and see if you can get an indication of the chipset,
and what driver supports it the chipset. Often the solution is to add the
vendor and product ID to the driver and rebuild it.
I've had USB ethernet adapters that were base
n this not only for myself but the whole idea in itself
it great.
When you say developers do you mean the developer of a package would answer
mail associated for that package or would it be a free for all among developers?
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m glad it's useful!
I'll be releasing a "anonymous rsync" package soon that you guys might
like. I'm settiing up mirrors of samba.anu.edu.au so I thought it was
about time I did a secure anonymous rsync daemon (Warren released one
a few months back, but the security wasn&#
roving, I just need some time to do it :-)
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On Tue, Jan 25, 2005 at 06:01:26PM -0700, Joel Aelwyn wrote:
> On Wed, Jan 26, 2005 at 12:06:06AM +0000, Andrew Suffield wrote:
> > On Tue, Jan 25, 2005 at 10:52:48AM -0700, Joel Aelwyn wrote:
> > > [1] Which is a separate rant, and frankly, I think Debian needs to be
> &g
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> prerm or postrm --remove, isn't that a release-critical bug?
Failing to remove is a grave bug anyway. Policy doesn't really
matter. Not every possible bug is written into policy.
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On Thu, Jan 27, 2005 at 01:26:15PM +0100, Frank K?ster wrote:
> Andrew Suffield <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:
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> > On Wed, Jan 26, 2005 at 12:08:27PM -0700, Joel Aelwyn wrote:
> >> In fact, the parts you have chosen to keep, and respond to, are the far
> >> *les
On Thu, Jan 27, 2005 at 02:41:12PM +0100, Frank K?ster wrote:
> Andrew Suffield <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:
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> > All the rational discussion has always been about what constitutes
> > 'hiding',
>
> I have also read discussion about what we promise not
idea to exclude "o"; I doubt many packages use "o"
> as a word by itself at the beginning of a literally-formatted line, but it
> might be a word in some foreign language,
I know of at least two such languages. Don't include 'o&#x
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On Fri, Apr 01, 2005 at 12:24:23PM +0200, Tollef Fog Heen wrote:
> * Andrew Suffield
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> | It's a method of working around bugs. Just fix the bugs
> | instead. Update libtool to the latest version and don't -l stuff you
> | don't need to -l.
>
> pkgco
? This
is one of the limitations of FAI. One cannot create the NFS root for say
Sparc on i386.
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about 30% of the time. /Of course/ we build KDE, there's no
> point in not doing that.
>
Why, does it get used on this architecture?
(Serious question, I have no idea).
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But the majority of what I believe to be project-critical machines are on
i386, which FAI can help with the receovery of.
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On Wed, Apr 06, 2005 at 06:32:02AM +0200, Martin Schulze wrote:
> Andrew Pollock wrote:
> > On Tue, Apr 05, 2005 at 08:38:17PM +0200, Martin Schulze wrote:
> > > Andreas Tille wrote:
> > > > >My point: We need the possibility to recreate the current Debian
>
elease manager and security team should
rank higher than the maintainer also.
(i.e. if they don't want the overhead of having to support the unsupported
for the next $LENGTH_OF_ETCH_RELEASE_PERIOD then they should be able to veto
it being in the release of Sarge.
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rather interesting for me...
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into it. Any given Debian box does a whole bunch of things,
and you want to be able to take (using the example) packages.d.o and move
it, so if all the infrastructure for packages.d.o was in a package, you'd be
laughing. You could then reshuffle services between boxes very easily.
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nd correcte
> all stuff in the older versions. (upstream does only support the most
> recent version, which will be different about one month after the sarge
> release).
>
This is the sort of stuff suited for volatile, for this very reason.
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ften than the manual. I suggest that this is at least partially
because it's non-free - certainly that's the reason why you don't see
*me* submitting patches to fix it. I'm not working on non-free stuff
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AIUI all packages from the same source package migrate to testing
together. Partimage-server is built from the partimage source package.
This source package has 2 RC bugs.
- #210611 tagged woody which should be irrelevant for testing migration
- #294953 which will block all of partimage
es; don't abuse it.
[There are many other, more complicated cases. Consult -legal for
consideration of specific examples.]
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So it seems that the changes in 0.6.4-10 were insufficient to really fix
#268248.
Thanks
Andrew V.
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So the bottom line is people that listen/spreading FUD will probably not
> be addressed by this FAQ because they are not interested in reading
> documentation in the first place.
>
However, a single URL to refer to in anti-FUD responses is better than
telling people (perhaps open-minded
ot have that bug, so it's not important to us.
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On Tue, May 10, 2005 at 08:12:38AM -0700, Thomas Bushnell BSG wrote:
> Andrew Suffield <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> writes:
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> > We do not have that bug, so it's not important to us.
>
> Still, nobody has said. What filesystems available on Debian have a
> better than
Your mail was borderline incomprehensible and certainly not worth the
effort it would have required for me to read it. Go and eat a
dictionary.
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On Wed, May 18, 2005 at 03:57:12PM +0200, Rapha?l Pinson wrote:
> Le Mercredi 18 Mai 2005 15:48, Andrew Suffield a écrit :
> > On Wed, May 18, 2005 at 03:46:33PM +0200, Rapha?l Pinson wrote:
> > > I agree that the previous mail was not very easy to read, nor written in
> >
s. I got bored when /usr/lib
got up to 50k files and gave up, concluding that people were being
pointlessly whiny about nothing.
Even for tiny, trivial binaries, the linkers spend all their time
linking and no easily measurable time doing anything else.
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I agree with Steve. Just add perl to the list. Who the heck would have
removed perl anyway? When I have a chance, I'll try upgrading my
system and see how it goes.
Andrew Donnellan
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> On Thu, May 19, 2005 at 08:17:49PM +0200, F
her critical
nor trivial.
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> > getting the correct lib).
>
> Does make me wonder why we ship libbfd.so and libopcodes.so, instead of
> just the static libraries.
To reduce the size of the binutils package, iirc. It has about a dozen
binaries, all of which need libbfd.
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too many
external factors. Although it may do now that x86-64 is going
mainstream; the principal reason it's never worked historically is
because the 'fastest' machines have been obscure stuff that gets
fucked for bu
ys something significant.
[Note that trying *modern* software on an old box, and observing how
much slower it is, just underlines my point. The comparison here is to
the software you would have run on it when the box was new].
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GPG fingerprint together by the statement, and the
> > picture from #1, and with their "government" identity, as that is checked
> > by the notary).
> >
> > 4) I'd sign the key, and send the updated key to the e-mail address
> > given, signed by the GPG key wi
;goodwill', since most people
won't bother to check. This thread will probably become a good
example, most of the others did.
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On Tue, May 31, 2005 at 09:30:40PM +0100, Rich Walker wrote:
> Andrew Suffield <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> writes:
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> > Moore's law is cpu speed.
>
> *TRANSISTORS* on a single die
>
> <http://www.intel.com/research/silicon/mooreslaw.htm>
Bah, yeah, but
On Tue, May 31, 2005 at 02:13:54PM -0600, Wesley J. Landaker wrote:
> On Tuesday 31 May 2005 14:11, Andrew Suffield wrote:
> > On Tue, May 31, 2005 at 09:03:12AM -0600, Wesley J. Landaker wrote:
> > > I wrote this up to someone. I thought I'd share it, and get your
> &
On Thu, Jun 02, 2005 at 08:09:25PM -0500, Heyer Family wrote:
> Please remove me from call wave.
What part of the email address looks
like it screams out "we are part of Call Wave"?
Please get your facts straight next time.
Yours sincerel
to the textual portion.
Or you could shoehorn images into the textual portion, with
uuencode. See X-Face. Note that such systems must traditionally use
the most arcane and absurd image format possible.
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The page itself is a good example of why things are the way they are,
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there's no advantage to consuming an entire runlevel just to say
"/etc/init.d/xdm stop" or "/etc/init.d/networking stop", which is
all that you are proposing.
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On Tue, Jun 07, 2005 at 09:37:29AM -0400, Roberto C. Sanchez wrote:
> On Tue, Jun 07, 2005 at 02:32:53PM +0100, Andrew Suffield wrote:
> > On Tue, Jun 07, 2005 at 01:03:12AM +0200, Javier Fern?ndez-Sanguino Pe?a
> > wrote:
> > > - inetd begone! -> xinetd (bett
On Tue, Jun 07, 2005 at 05:06:45PM +0300, George Danchev wrote:
> On Tuesday 07 June 2005 16:25, Andrew Suffield wrote:
> > On Tue, Jun 07, 2005 at 10:23:33AM +0200, Thomas Hood wrote:
> > > To begin with we can all go back and review:
> > >
> > >
On Tue, Jun 07, 2005 at 03:58:52PM +0200, Petter Reinholdtsen wrote:
> [Andrew Suffield]
> > It's supported just fine if you take backups at the appropriate
> > moment. I can't think of any useful way in which it could be more
> > supported than that.
>
>
On Tue, Jun 07, 2005 at 10:06:55AM -0400, Roberto C. Sanchez wrote:
> On Tue, Jun 07, 2005 at 02:40:48PM +0100, Andrew Suffield wrote:
> > On Tue, Jun 07, 2005 at 09:37:29AM -0400, Roberto C. Sanchez wrote:
> > > Why? What if I prefer to have something from inetd only when neces
On Tue, Jun 07, 2005 at 04:19:19PM +0200, Remi Vanicat wrote:
> Andrew Suffield <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> writes:
>
> > On Tue, Jun 07, 2005 at 09:37:29AM -0400, Roberto C. Sanchez wrote:
> >> On Tue, Jun 07, 2005 at 02:32:53PM +0100, Andrew Suffield wrote:
> >>
On Wed, Jun 08, 2005 at 02:18:28PM +0100, Simon Huggins wrote:
> On Tue, Jun 07, 2005 at 02:25:22PM +0100, Andrew Suffield wrote:
> > On Tue, Jun 07, 2005 at 10:23:33AM +0200, Thomas Hood wrote:
> > > To begin with we can all go back and review:
> > > http:
On Wed, Jun 08, 2005 at 10:33:05AM +0200, Jesus Climent wrote:
> On Tue, Jun 07, 2005 at 02:40:48PM +0100, Andrew Suffield wrote:
> >
> > Why on earth would you? It's just more administrative overhead, and
> > yet another package you didn't need.
>
>
l file. Trying to do this *will not work*.
At the point when the changes are made, the source package HAS ALREADY
BEEN BUILT. What happens is that the changes made in the currentx build
get included in the *next* source package you build from the same
tree, so the source and binary are perpe
oblem: ...
- Here are some proposals for solving it, along with discussion of
their merits thus far determined: ...
A fait accompli looks like this:
- Here is what we're going to do: ...
It's not hard to tell the difference.
There has, to date, been no 'starting poin
x27;s why we
need keys in the first place (and all you people waving smtp-tls
around, go back and think about how useful that's going to be without
signing keys).
(I can't even be bothered to start laughing at the idea of encrypting
signatures. That's just too silly even for rid
ings.
>
FWIW, I've recently become a co-maintainer, and now the Sarge has released,
I'm planning on bringing dhcp3 up to date with the latest upstream and
having a good bash at all the bugs.
regards
Andrew
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regards
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On Sun, Jun 12, 2005 at 04:23:46PM +0200, Milan P. Stanic wrote:
> On Sun, Jun 12, 2005 at 10:19:03PM +1000, Andrew Pollock wrote:
> > FWIW, I've recently become a co-maintainer, and now the Sarge has released,
> > I'm planning on bringing dhcp3 up to date with the latest
On Sun, Jun 12, 2005 at 12:10:15AM -0700, Steve Langasek wrote:
> On Sun, Jun 12, 2005 at 07:49:51AM +0100, Andrew Suffield wrote:
> > On Sat, Jun 11, 2005 at 11:17:21PM -0700, Steve Langasek wrote:
> > > > What are we setting out to achieve?
> > >
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