Problems converting a library to Multi-Arch

2012-02-20 Thread John Paul Adrian Glaubitz
during a build? I cannot seem to find a way to pass the option -sa to dpkg-genchanges. Thanks, Adrian [1] http://wiki.debian.org/Multiarch/Implementation [2] git://minidisc.dyndns.org/z80ex-debian.git [3] git://minidisc.dyndns.org/kcemu-debian.git

Problems converting a library to Multi-Arch

2012-02-20 Thread John Paul Adrian Glaubitz
during a build? I cannot seem to find a way to pass the option -sa to dpkg-genchanges. Thanks, Adrian [1] http://wiki.debian.org/Multiarch/Implementation [2] git://minidisc.dyndns.org/z80ex-debian.git [3] git://minidisc.dyndns.org/kcemu-debian.git -- To UNSUBSCRIBE, email to de

Re: Problems converting a library to Multi-Arch

2012-02-20 Thread John Paul Adrian Glaubitz
Hello Neil, On Feb 20, 2012, at 10:33 PM, Neil Williams wrote: > On Mon, 20 Feb 2012 21:42:42 +0100 > John Paul Adrian Glaubitz wrote: > >> I have been working on converting the package z80ex (a library) to >> Multi-Arch. > > Why are you changing the .install files

Re: Problems converting a library to Multi-Arch

2012-02-20 Thread John Paul Adrian Glaubitz
ulti-Arch: same, c) > it's more maintainable to move the .so symlink in the .install file than it > is to update the target of the symlink. Got it, thanks! Adrian -- To UNSUBSCRIBE, email to debian-devel-requ...@lists.debian.org with a subject of "unsubscribe". Trouble

Re: Problems converting a library to Multi-Arch

2012-02-20 Thread John Paul Adrian Glaubitz
On Feb 20, 2012, at 10:55 PM, Russ Allbery wrote: > John Paul Adrian Glaubitz writes: > >> Do I understand correctly that despite the package being Multi-Arch, >> there will still be symbolic links in /usr/lib pointing to the native >> versions of the .so files to /usr/

Re: upstart: please update to latest upstream version

2012-02-21 Thread John Paul Adrian Glaubitz
x27;t see a need in supporting it either. Ubuntu will probably make the switch in near future as well. Adrian -- To UNSUBSCRIBE, email to debian-devel-requ...@lists.debian.org with a subject of "unsubscribe". Trouble? Contact listmas...@lists.debian.org Archive: http://lists.debian.org/8fdf8775-e1f2-45b3-853d-d01e3dd12...@physik.fu-berlin.de

Re: upstart: please update to latest upstream version

2012-02-21 Thread John Paul Adrian Glaubitz
ivation and the capability to replace whole init bash scripts with internal code. There is a discussion about it here [1]. Adrian [1] http://undacuvabrutha.wordpress.com/2011/04/29/why-ubuntu-should-continue-with-upstart-for-11-10/

Re: upstart: please update to latest upstream version

2012-02-21 Thread John Paul Adrian Glaubitz
untu is going to do. Well, the author of this blog works for Canocical, so I guess he has some voice when speaking for Ubuntu :). Adrian -- To UNSUBSCRIBE, email to debian-devel-requ...@lists.debian.org with a subject of "unsubscribe". Trouble? Contact listmas...@lists.debian.org Archive: http://lists.debian.org/6592be2d-825a-46e8-80d0-749accae2...@physik.fu-berlin.de

Re: upstart: please update to latest upstream version

2012-02-21 Thread John Paul Adrian Glaubitz
On Feb 21, 2012, at 11:22 PM, Steve Langasek wrote: > On Tue, Feb 21, 2012 at 10:28:55PM +0100, John Paul Adrian Glaubitz wrote: >>> What do you know of the upstart design that makes you think systemd's design >>> is better? The above could be a paraphrase of Lennart&#

Re: upstart: please update to latest upstream version

2012-02-22 Thread John Paul Adrian Glaubitz
On Feb 22, 2012, at 11:21 PM, Svante Signell wrote: > On Wed, 2012-02-22 at 00:32 +0100, Marco d'Itri wrote: >> On Feb 21, John Paul Adrian Glaubitz wrote: >> >>> The biggest disadvantage of systemd is surely that it is Linux-only and >>> probably won&#x

Enabling package installation for non-root users

2012-02-23 Thread John Paul Adrian Glaubitz
Is there a sane way to use /etc/sudoers like above or should we completely refrain from that and use PackageKit? Regards, Adrian -- To UNSUBSCRIBE, email to debian-devel-requ...@lists.debian.org with a subject of "unsubscribe". Trouble? Contact listmas...@lists.debian.org Archive

Re: upstart: please update to latest upstream version

2012-02-24 Thread John Paul Adrian Glaubitz
And this is what I meant earlier when I said that systemd has a much cleaner and consistent design. It doesn't need these quirks, it was designed and written with all these scenarios in mind. Of course, software is never perfect, but I'd say this is a fundamental feature which sho

Re: Popularity of bzr-builddeb and dh-make

2012-10-11 Thread John Paul Adrian Glaubitz
a good start when packaging from scratch. I use it for all my packages and gives a rough guideline for the packaging work. Cheers, Adrian signature.asc Description: Digital signature

Re: Poll (was: Popularity of bzr-builddeb and dh-make)

2012-10-12 Thread John Paul Adrian Glaubitz
On Fri, Oct 12, 2012 at 12:06:11PM +0200, Benjamin Drung wrote: > Thanks. > > I have setup a poll for it: > > https://dudle.inf.tu-dresden.de/Popularity_of_bzr-builddeb_and_dh-make/ I voted, thanks! Cheers, Adrian signature.asc Description: Digital signature

Re: Poll (was: Popularity of bzr-builddeb and dh-make)

2012-10-16 Thread John Paul Adrian Glaubitz
lp:mypackage > > is one way to use Launchpad with bzr for Debian effectively. It's certainly > not *required*, but often works out pretty nicely. And how do I use bzr *without* Launchpad when I don't want to? I'm not against LP per se, but I don't like tools limitin

Re: major linux problems summary 2012

2012-11-03 Thread John Paul Adrian Glaubitz
osoft starts writing software for Linux, I have won." Well, Microsoft is already doing with Skype. Plus, they're actually contributing to the Linux kernel. Linux is everything but unsuccessful. Cheers, Adrian -- To UNSUBSCRIBE, email to debian-devel-requ...@lists.debian.org with a subject of

Re: debian mate

2012-11-04 Thread John Paul Adrian Glaubitz
TE ready for Debian, but don't expect that to happen anytime soon. I'm also working on getting mdm ready, a fork of gdm 2.20. Currently, I'm not really happy with the code, however. Adrian > [1] http://bugs.debian.org/cgi-bin/bugreport.cgi?bug=658783 -- To UNSUBSCRIBE, e

Re: Bug#692830: ITP: nemo -- File manager for cinnamon

2012-11-09 Thread John Paul Adrian Glaubitz
ges from unstable with their own repository and I have seen many package conflicts with this setup. I think a derivative distribution should always maintain their own complete repository. Cheers, Adrian > [1] https://github.com/linuxmint/mdm/blob/master/README > [2] https://github.com/linu

Re: Bug#692830: ITP: nemo -- File manager for cinnamon

2012-11-09 Thread John Paul Adrian Glaubitz
On Fri, Nov 09, 2012 at 04:23:16PM +, Jon Dowland wrote: > On Fri, Nov 09, 2012 at 05:06:57PM +0100, John Paul Adrian Glaubitz wrote: > > I don't think it is currently a sensible decision to introduce > > duplicate GNOME3 packages into Debian. Nautilus 3.4 is currently &

Re: Bug#692830: ITP: nemo -- File manager for cinnamon

2012-11-09 Thread John Paul Adrian Glaubitz
ironment > can be a personal thing to users. I don't know, shouldn't these users just not use Linux Mint itself then? The version in Debian will be quickly outdated then anyway, so that most users will probably complain. Adrian -- To UNSUBSCRIBE, email to debian-devel-r

Re: Gentoo guys starting a fork of udev

2012-11-14 Thread John Paul Adrian Glaubitz
ly made a couple of good points why they switched to systemd as default [1]. Cheers, Adrian > [1] https://bbs.archlinux.org/viewtopic.php?pid=1149530#p1149530 -- To UNSUBSCRIBE, email to debian-devel-requ...@lists.debian.org with a subject of "unsubscribe". Trouble? Conta

Re: Gentoo guys starting a fork of udev

2012-11-14 Thread John Paul Adrian Glaubitz
dropped. Apple dropped the old init system with MacOS X 10.4, why should the Linux world still stick to it in 2012? Adrian -- To UNSUBSCRIBE, email to debian-devel-requ...@lists.debian.org with a subject of "unsubscribe". Trouble? Contact listmas...@lists.debian.org Archive: http://lists.debian.org/20121114143721.ge28...@physik.fu-berlin.de

Re: Gentoo guys starting a fork of udev

2012-11-14 Thread John Paul Adrian Glaubitz
simply untrue. People aren't going away from Arch because of systemd. There are some who are unhappy with it, sure, but most Arch users support the systemd switch or simply don't care because they only want their init system to be fast and reliable which truly is what systemd provides.

Re: Gentoo guys starting a fork of udev

2012-11-14 Thread John Paul Adrian Glaubitz
On Nov 14, 2012, at 5:05 PM, Roger Leigh wrote: > On Wed, Nov 14, 2012 at 03:04:35PM +0100, John Paul Adrian Glaubitz wrote: >> On Wed, Nov 14, 2012 at 09:49:07PM +0800, Patrick Lauer wrote: >>> But anyway, we're getting tired of their ADHD-driven changes just to >&

Re: Gentoo guys starting a fork of udev

2012-11-14 Thread John Paul Adrian Glaubitz
On Nov 14, 2012, at 7:06 PM, Thomas Goirand wrote: > On 11/14/2012 10:37 PM, John Paul Adrian Glaubitz wrote: >> True, but as I said, System V Init is not a good concept anymore, >> that's why it's being dropped. Apple dropped the old init system with >> MacOS X 1

Re: Gentoo guys starting a fork of udev

2012-11-14 Thread John Paul Adrian Glaubitz
On Nov 14, 2012, at 10:11 PM, Steve Langasek wrote: > On Wed, Nov 14, 2012 at 12:47:11PM -0800, Steve Langasek wrote: >> On Wed, Nov 14, 2012 at 03:04:35PM +0100, John Paul Adrian Glaubitz wrote: >>> On Wed, Nov 14, 2012 at 09:49:07PM +0800, Patrick Lauer wrote: >>>

Re: Gentoo guys starting a fork of udev

2012-11-14 Thread John Paul Adrian Glaubitz
udev that needs to be addressed and it seems that they did because I cannot reproduce it anymore with udev 195 anymore. Adrian -- To UNSUBSCRIBE, email to debian-devel-requ...@lists.debian.org with a subject of "unsubscribe". Trouble? Contact listmas...@lists.debian.org Archive: http://lists.debian.org/20121114223427.ga23...@physik.fu-berlin.de

Re: Gentoo guys starting a fork of udev

2012-11-14 Thread John Paul Adrian Glaubitz
tart has been PID 1 in Ubuntu since 2006. It > *is* absolutely dependable and reliable. Upstart has had its problems, too [1]. And, honestly, the way this bug was handled left me with little confidence in upstart. Adrian > [1] https://bugs.launchpad.net/ubuntu/+source/upstart/+bug/557177

Re: Gentoo guys starting a fork of udev

2012-11-14 Thread John Paul Adrian Glaubitz
way more sense to have all the functionality of the init system integrated into it's core binary rather than depending on external scripts which will hopefully do what init expects from them. Adrian -- To UNSUBSCRIBE, email to debian-devel-requ...@lists.debian.org with a subject of &quo

Re: Gentoo guys starting a fork of udev

2012-11-14 Thread John Paul Adrian Glaubitz
On Nov 15, 2012, at 1:19 AM, Steve Langasek wrote: > On Thu, Nov 15, 2012 at 12:45:48AM +0100, John Paul Adrian Glaubitz wrote: >>> This is not theoretical. upstart has been PID 1 in Ubuntu since 2006. It >>> *is* absolutely dependable and reliable. > >> Upstar

Re: Gentoo guys starting a fork of udev

2012-11-14 Thread John Paul Adrian Glaubitz
, it was fixed, after a very heated discussion with the maintainer who was blaiming users first for using the script incorrectly. Again, that's what can happen if you rely on hacky bash scripts for core functionality. Adrian -- To UNSUBSCRIBE, email to debian-devel-requ...@lists.debian.org wi

Re: Gentoo guys starting a fork of udev

2012-11-16 Thread John Paul Adrian Glaubitz
On Fri, Nov 16, 2012 at 11:45:45PM +0100, Salvo Tomaselli wrote: > On Thursday 15 November 2012 00.57.50 John Paul Adrian Glaubitz wrote: > > People are constantly insisting that systemd is too bloated or unreliable, > > but yet no one has really come up with real examples to prove

Re: Gentoo guys starting a fork of udev

2012-11-19 Thread John Paul Adrian Glaubitz
hagorean_theorem#History Sticking to your chain of arguments: If physicists had been happy with the theory aether [2], Einstein had never come up with special relativity and GPS actually would never be able to work. The math behind special relativity is just a little older than 100 years (annus mi

Re: Gentoo guys starting a fork of udev

2012-11-19 Thread John Paul Adrian Glaubitz
k. Even the claims of the Gentoo people about the separate /usr partition are unjustified [4]. Cheers, Adrian > [1] http://wiki.freedesktop.org/wiki/Software/systemd/MinimalBuilds > [2] http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Udev > [3] http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Greg_Kroah-Hartman > [4] ht

Packaging MATE for Debian

2012-11-21 Thread John Paul Adrian Glaubitz
with the MATE development team over the last weeks and I already have write access to their Debian packaging repository. I'd therefore like to ask if anyone here would be willing to help me to get MATE into Debian for Jessie. Cheers, Adrian -- .''`. John Paul Adrian Glaubitz : :&#x

Re: debian mate

2012-11-21 Thread John Paul Adrian Glaubitz
ely can't or don't want to work with a > > new and different desktop-paradigm, with accepted pain and grief in > > varying detail... > > So what you suggest for jessie is, after users having gone through the > “pain” of moving from GNOME2 to GNOME 3 classic, to

Bug#693998: ITP: linux-minidisc -- Free software for accessing NetMD and HiMD MiniDisc devices

2012-11-22 Thread John Paul Adrian Glaubitz
Package: wnpp Severity: wishlist Owner: John Paul Adrian Glaubitz * Package name: linux-minidisc Version : 0.9.0 Upstream Author : linux-minidisc project * URL : https://wiki.physik.fu-berlin.de/linux-minidisc * License : GPLv2, LGPLv2.1 Programming Lang: C

Re: debian mate

2012-11-22 Thread John Paul Adrian Glaubitz
till way to different from GNOME2 for the average joe. People just want to get work done and not play around with their desktop. It has to be at least unobstrusive as possible. Cheers, Adrian -- To UNSUBSCRIBE, email to debian-devel-requ...@lists.debian.org with a subject of "u

Re: Bug#693998: ITP: linux-minidisc -- Free software for accessing NetMD and HiMD MiniDisc devices

2012-11-23 Thread John Paul Adrian Glaubitz
On Fri, Nov 23, 2012 at 09:02:18AM +0800, Paul Wise wrote: > On Fri, Nov 23, 2012 at 3:16 AM, John Paul Adrian Glaubitz wrote: > > > * Package name: linux-minidisc > > Thats a strange name considering it builds and runs on MacOS, Windows, > Linux, FreeBSD and Haiku. Ye

Re: Really, about udev, not init sytsems (was: Gentoo guys starting a fork of udev)

2012-11-24 Thread John Paul Adrian Glaubitz
udev runs without systemd or not. I don't see anyway why something as low-level as udev should be highly portable in the first place. Cheers, Adrian > [1] > https://groups.google.com/forum/?hl=en&fromgroups=#!topic/linux.gentoo.dev/yWQGqxsfjI0 -- .''`. John Paul Adria

Re: Really, about udev, not init sytsems (was: Gentoo guys starting a fork of udev)

2012-11-24 Thread John Paul Adrian Glaubitz
On Sat, Nov 24, 2012 at 06:03:02PM +0100, Toni Mueller wrote: > On Sat, Nov 24, 2012 at 05:15:25PM +0100, John Paul Adrian Glaubitz wrote: > > If both Ubuntu and Gentoo would just go with the rest of the community > > and accept systemd, we wouldn't have to bother whether u

Re: Canonical pushes upstart into user session - systemd developer complains

2012-11-24 Thread John Paul Adrian Glaubitz
ent similar to systemd-loginctl. Adrian -- .''`. John Paul Adrian Glaubitz : :' : Debian Developer - glaub...@debian.org `. `' Freie Universitaet Berlin - glaub...@physik.fu-berlin.de `-GPG: 62FF 8A75 84E0 2956 9546 0006 7426 3B37 F5B5 F913 -- To UNSUBSCRIBE, ema

Re: Canonical pushes upstart into user session - systemd developer complains

2012-11-24 Thread John Paul Adrian Glaubitz
On Sat, Nov 24, 2012 at 08:17:35PM +0100, John Paul Adrian Glaubitz wrote: > On Sat, Nov 24, 2012 at 07:20:02PM +0100, Carlos Alberto Lopez Perez wrote: > > https://wiki.ubuntu.com/FoundationsTeam/Specs/RaringUpstartUserSessions > > This is actually going to be very interesting to

Re: Canonical pushes upstart into user session - systemd developer complains

2012-11-24 Thread John Paul Adrian Glaubitz
On Sat, Nov 24, 2012 at 10:28:46PM +0100, Guillem Jover wrote: > > waitid is supported on FreeBSD. Are you sure? According to their status page [1] it's not yet fully implemented. The page is dated to last October. Adrian > [1] http://www.freebsd.org/projects/c99/index.html --

Re: Really, about udev, not init sytsems

2012-11-24 Thread John Paul Adrian Glaubitz
On Sun, Nov 25, 2012 at 12:52:47PM +0800, Thomas Goirand wrote: > On 11/25/2012 12:15 AM, John Paul Adrian Glaubitz wrote: > > They're constantly claiming, for example, that udev and systemd break > > a separate /usr partition which is simply not true. > I believe you

Re: Really, about udev, not init sytsems

2012-11-24 Thread John Paul Adrian Glaubitz
On Sun, Nov 25, 2012 at 08:35:22AM +0100, John Paul Adrian Glaubitz wrote: > Sorry, but I wouldn't touch code with a ten-feet pole who from someone > is so naive claiming that he knows more about writing an open source > BIOS than the people at Coreboot who have been doing that s

Re: Canonical pushes upstart into user session - systemd developer complains

2012-11-25 Thread John Paul Adrian Glaubitz
iguration syntax and Windoze format files.^^^ I stopped reading there Adrian -- .''`. John Paul Adrian Glaubitz : :' :

Re: Really, about udev, not init sytsems

2012-11-25 Thread John Paul Adrian Glaubitz
d udev), going to the wrong direction, which pushed Gentoo people > to fork. Which I don't agree. Just look at FreeBSD, they have the whole operating system core merged with their kernel source. I don't see anyone complaining there either. > >> On 11/25/2012 12:15 AM, John Pa

Re: Really, about udev, not init sytsems

2012-11-25 Thread John Paul Adrian Glaubitz
On Sun, Nov 25, 2012 at 10:52:58PM +0800, Thomas Goirand wrote: > On 11/25/2012 01:30 AM, John Paul Adrian Glaubitz wrote: > > Why? Why would you want to rip such low-level stuff apart? > > Well, isn't it the opposite thing that is happening? "Such low-level > s

Re: Canonical pushes upstart into user session - systemd developer complains

2012-11-25 Thread John Paul Adrian Glaubitz
smiley or > other blatant display of humour, it is impossible to create a parody > of fundamentalism that someone won't mistake for the real thing." YMMD :D. Cheers, Adrian -- .''`. John Paul Adrian Glaubitz : :' : Debian Developer - glaub...@debian.org `. `&#

Re: Really, about udev, not init sytsems

2012-11-25 Thread John Paul Adrian Glaubitz
; > obviously don't know what they're doing is Trinity [3]. > > ...but I know that Gentoo guys aren't working > on their fork because of false assumptions only. According to Greg - the original author of the software - they do! I don't understand why you wouldn

Re: Really, about udev, not init sytsems

2012-11-25 Thread John Paul Adrian Glaubitz
et Debian back onto m68k. Yet, I do not think this should happen at all costs. There haven't been no new 68k processors for years, have there? Adrian * I recently spent lots of money to get my A1200 upgraded to have an 68030, 64 MB of Fast RAM and a flickerfixer with DVI output. --

Re: Bug#693998: ITP: linux-minidisc -- Free software for accessing NetMD and HiMD MiniDisc devices

2012-11-26 Thread John Paul Adrian Glaubitz
ame of the source package only anyway, so it's not a big deal. Most Windows and MacOS users just search and download the UI application, QHiMDTransfer and don't care it mentions Linux on the project homepage. Cheers, Adrian -- .''`. John Paul Adrian Glaubitz : :' :

Re: Really, about udev, not init sytsems

2012-11-28 Thread John Paul Adrian Glaubitz
27;d have to admit that he is right and it's not just about the things he wrote. Adrian -- To UNSUBSCRIBE, email to debian-devel-requ...@lists.debian.org with a subject of "unsubscribe". Trouble? Contact listmas...@lists.debian.org Archive: http://lists.debian.org/d0742e8d-66f5-4454-ab35-f3e9ec388...@physik.fu-berlin.de

Re: Really, about udev, not init sytsems

2012-11-29 Thread John Paul Adrian Glaubitz
been. To try to couple that to > systemd sounds like a bad form of systemd advocacy to me. Yes, I agree it leaves a bad taste for sure. But again, I am not so sure if we really need to be able to choose our init system. I mean, do we have this discussion over mdev vs udev? Or even devfs? > Oh

Re: Really, about udev, not init sytsems |Subject: Re: Really, about udev

2012-11-29 Thread John Paul Adrian Glaubitz
seems to be something that can be fixed by a new upload, doesn't it? Cheers, Adrian -- .''`. John Paul Adrian Glaubitz : :' : Debian Developer - glaub...@debian.org `. `' Freie Universitaet Berlin - glaub...@physik.fu-berlin.de `-GPG: 62FF 8A75 84E0 2956 9546

Re: Really, about udev, not init sytsems

2012-11-29 Thread John Paul Adrian Glaubitz
ch are these instruction set compatible with the classical m68k processors? Would we be able to have an m68k port of Debian which runs both on the original m68k CPUs and the ColdFire series? Adrian -- .''`. John Paul Adrian Glaubitz : :' : Debian Developer - glaub...@debian.org `. `&#

Re: Really, about udev, not init sytsems

2012-11-29 Thread John Paul Adrian Glaubitz
treams that your particular use case is the one that has to be honored. Adrian -- .''`. John Paul Adrian Glaubitz : :' : Debian Developer - glaub...@debian.org `. `' Freie Universitaet Berlin - glaub...@physik.fu-berlin.de `-GPG: 62FF 8A75 84E0 2956 9546 0006 7426 3

Re: Really, ...

2012-11-29 Thread John Paul Adrian Glaubitz
e it has no arguments, > as no real arguments against systemd are accepted.) Yes, I do accept vocals against systemd, but only if these are actually valid arguments. Because I want software development to be driven on technical merits and not on sympathies against or for certain people nei

Re: Canonical pushes upstart into user session - systemd developer complains

2012-11-29 Thread John Paul Adrian Glaubitz
to keep the readability). > > So to keep everyone equally happy, we need: > > > > > > Structure _and_ readability. I wonder what the effect is of setting key3 to ♬♫♩♩♫ :D :D. Hilse fra Berlin! Adrian -- .''`. John Paul Adrian Glaubitz : :' : Debian De

Re: Really, ...

2012-11-29 Thread John Paul Adrian Glaubitz
nd > don't vary with repetition. And for me, the most annoying thing is the neverending circlejerk of systemd bashing on a non-technical basis. If anyone of these people would really take the time to read into the design rationales of the available init systems (upstart, systemd, sys

Re: Really, ...

2012-11-29 Thread John Paul Adrian Glaubitz
sktops or I simply want to explore new stuff, to make sure I still have the best experience I can get. Adrian -- .''`. John Paul Adrian Glaubitz : :' : Debian Developer - glaub...@debian.org `. `' Freie Universitaet Berlin - glaub...@physik.fu-berlin.de `-GPG: 62FF

Re: Really, ...

2012-11-29 Thread John Paul Adrian Glaubitz
On Thu, Nov 29, 2012 at 04:04:52PM -0800, Russ Allbery wrote: > John Paul Adrian Glaubitz writes: > > On Thu, Nov 29, 2012 at 03:34:08PM -0800, Russ Allbery wrote: > > >> At this point, the single most annoying thing about systemd is the > >> people who are advocati

Re: Really, about udev, not init sytsems

2012-11-30 Thread John Paul Adrian Glaubitz
in #693522 and it works on my installation. So we will probably need more input to debug this. Adrian -- .''`. John Paul Adrian Glaubitz : :' : Debian Developer - glaub...@debian.org `. `' Freie Universitaet Berlin - glaub...@physik.fu-berlin.de `-GPG: 62FF 8A75

Re: Really, ...

2012-11-30 Thread John Paul Adrian Glaubitz
On Fri, Nov 30, 2012 at 11:51:24PM +0800, Thomas Goirand wrote: > On 11/30/2012 07:49 AM, John Paul Adrian Glaubitz wrote: > > And for me, the most annoying thing is the neverending circlejerk of > > systemd bashing on a non-technical basis. If anyone of these people > > would

Re: Really, ...

2012-12-01 Thread John Paul Adrian Glaubitz
AM CET: #upstart (FreeNode) - 23 nicks #systemd (FreeNode) - 211 nicks #openrc (FreeNode) - 40 nicks So, from these numbers, systemd has a larger community than four times the people of upstart and OpenRC combined. But, anyway, didn't we want to stop discussing this? Adrian -- .'&

Re: Really, ...

2012-12-01 Thread John Paul Adrian Glaubitz
On Sat, Dec 01, 2012 at 10:12:15PM +0800, Thomas Goirand wrote: > On 12/01/2012 05:34 PM, John Paul Adrian Glaubitz wrote: > > systemd is not Lennart, he is one of the many contributors. > > This statement is simply false. > > I just checked with "git blame".

Re: Really, ...

2012-12-01 Thread John Paul Adrian Glaubitz
ired of this for several days now and I don't want to discuss it any further. Adrian -- .''`. John Paul Adrian Glaubitz : :' : Debian Developer - glaub...@debian.org `. `' Freie Universitaet Berlin - glaub...@physik.fu-berlin.de `-GPG: 62FF 8A75 84E0 295

Re: Packaging MATE for Debian

2012-12-02 Thread John Paul Adrian Glaubitz
Hey, On Wed, Nov 21, 2012 at 11:22:52AM +0100, John Paul Adrian Glaubitz wrote: > I'd therefore like to ask if anyone here would be willing to help me > to get MATE into Debian for Jessie. I'd like to ping back and see if there's anyone here who'd be interested in join

Re: Packaging MATE for Debian

2012-12-02 Thread John Paul Adrian Glaubitz
On Sun, Dec 02, 2012 at 10:21:43PM +, Jon Dowland wrote: > On Sun, Dec 02, 2012 at 01:26:50PM +0100, John Paul Adrian Glaubitz wrote: > > Hey, > > > > On Wed, Nov 21, 2012 at 11:22:52AM +0100, John Paul Adrian Glaubitz wrote: > > > I'd therefore like to ask

Re: Bug#696006: ITP: tinyos -- operating system for sensor motes and embedded devices

2012-12-15 Thread John Paul Adrian Glaubitz
e in Debian? Can it be used for something on a running Debian system? Cheers, Adrian -- .''`. John Paul Adrian Glaubitz : :' : Debian Developer - glaub...@debian.org `. `' Freie Universitaet Berlin - glaub...@physik.fu-berlin.de `-GPG: 62FF 8A75 84E0 2956 9546 00

Packaging upstream tarballs with mixed C and Python sources

2012-12-22 Thread John Paul Adrian Glaubitz
am since I have been discussing the issue with him as well. Also, there might be the possibility to just split the upstream tarball into emulator, launcher and server to simplify packaging. The upstream tarball can be found here [2], if anyone wants to have a look. Cheers, Adrian > [1] htt

Re: Packaging upstream tarballs with mixed C and Python sources

2012-12-23 Thread John Paul Adrian Glaubitz
r > dh_auto_build Exactly what I was looking for, thanks a lot! Adrian -- .''`. John Paul Adrian Glaubitz : :' : Debian Developer - glaub...@debian.org `. `' Freie Universitaet Berlin - glaub...@physik.fu-berlin.de `-GPG: 62FF 8A75 84E0 2956 9546 0006 7426

Re: how to add my project?

2012-12-23 Thread John Paul Adrian Glaubitz
ake sense that he maintains the GUI for it as well. Hope that helps! Cheers, Adrian > [1] http://mentors.debian.net/ > [2] http://packages.debian.org/stable/web/webhttrack -- .''`. John Paul Adrian Glaubitz : :' : Debian Developer - glaub...@debian.org `. `'

Re: Bug#696593: ITP: sun -- sun calculates the sun's rise/set times

2012-12-23 Thread John Paul Adrian Glaubitz
to ask for sponsorship? Cheers, Adrian > [1] http://mentors.debian.net/ -- .''`. John Paul Adrian Glaubitz : :' : Debian Developer - glaub...@debian.org `. `' Freie Universitaet Berlin - glaub...@physik.fu-berlin.de `-GPG: 62FF 8A75 84E0 2956 9546 0006 7426 3B37 F5B5 F

Re: openmotif is now LGPL, retirement of lesstif in jessie?

2012-12-23 Thread John Paul Adrian Glaubitz
esstif seems to be abandonend (last release 2007) while OpenMotif just had a release in October 2012 (according to Wikipedia). Cheers, Adrian -- .''`. John Paul Adrian Glaubitz : :' : Debian Developer - glaub...@debian.org `. `' Freie Universitaet Berlin - glaub...@ph

Re: openmotif is now LGPL, retirement of lesstif in jessie?

2012-12-24 Thread John Paul Adrian Glaubitz
ht have a look at this very related RFP [1] :). Cheers, Adrian > [1] http://bugs.debian.org/cgi-bin/bugreport.cgi?bug=689098 -- .''`. John Paul Adrian Glaubitz : :' : Debian Developer - glaub...@debian.org `. `' Freie Universitaet Berlin - glaub...@physik.fu-berli

Re: Bug#696623: ITP: seekwatcher -- utility to visualize block I/O patterns

2012-12-24 Thread John Paul Adrian Glaubitz
this actually the most recent upstream version? Does it make sense to package such an old version? Cheers, Adrian -- .''`. John Paul Adrian Glaubitz : :' : Debian Developer - glaub...@debian.org `. `' Freie Universitaet Berlin - glaub...@physik.fu-berlin.de `-GPG: 62

Bug#697821: ITP: ppsspp -- ppsspp: A portable PSP emulator.

2013-01-09 Thread John Paul Adrian Glaubitz
Package: wnpp Severity: wishlist Owner: John Paul Adrian Glaubitz * Package name: ppsspp Version : 0.5 Upstream Author : Henrik Rydgård * URL : http://www.ppsspp.org/ * License : GPL2+ PSPSDK BSD-compatible license Programming Lang: C, C

Re: tool to create debian/copyright files paragraphs?

2013-01-28 Thread John Paul Adrian Glaubitz
tool should try to keep the files list short by using wildcards. If not I might hack something in python. Awesome idea! Please tell me where to send the crate of beer once you're finished ;). Cheers, Adrian -- .''`. John Paul Adrian Glaubitz : :' : Debian Developer -

Re: needing sponsor for blt: am I at that stage?

2013-03-01 Thread John Paul Adrian Glaubitz
when sponsoring. Cheers, Adrian > [1] http://mentors.debian.net/package/blt -- .''`. John Paul Adrian Glaubitz : :' : Debian Developer - glaub...@debian.org `. `' Freie Universitaet Berlin - glaub...@physik.fu-berlin.de `-GPG: 62FF 8A75 84E0 2956 9546 0006

Re: Bug#701536: RM: subsurface -- RoQA; unmaintained package, maintainer MIA

2013-03-03 Thread John Paul Adrian Glaubitz
has the right to immediately remove their packages from Debian. I suppose Khalid will be happy to continue to work on the package again once he finds the time. I don't see any need (and I think it's impolite) to pressure him in such a way. Regards, Adrian -- .''`. John Paul

Re: Bug#701536: RM: subsurface -- RoQA; unmaintained package, maintainer MIA

2013-03-03 Thread John Paul Adrian Glaubitz
for Debian is github, for example. In any case, I'd be happy to help with sponsoring. Cheers, Adrian -- .''`. John Paul Adrian Glaubitz : :' : Debian Developer - glaub...@debian.org `. `' Freie Universitaet Berlin - glaub...@physik.fu-berlin.de `-GPG: 62FF

Re: Bug#701536: RM: subsurface -- RoQA; unmaintained package, maintainer MIA

2013-03-03 Thread John Paul Adrian Glaubitz
ream shouldn't maintain the Debian-specific part. A great place for maintaining the packaging for Debian is github, for example. Well - I run my own git server at git.hohndel.org but we can use whatever works for the packaging. Sure, that was just a suggestion. I'd just

Re: Bug#701536: RM: subsurface -- RoQA; unmaintained package, maintainer MIA

2013-03-03 Thread John Paul Adrian Glaubitz
On 03/03/2013 10:35 PM, Cristian Ionescu-Idbohrn wrote: On Sun, 3 Mar 2013, John Paul Adrian Glaubitz wrote: The license issue was just an example (hence the braces). The reasoning is that the Debian packaging is supposed to be independent of upstream, especially since we cannot always follow

Re: is Kai Wasserbäch still active?

2013-03-24 Thread John Paul Adrian Glaubitz
Hi Ben, I'd be happy to sponsor your package once I'm sober again (just came back from a pub :)). Cheers, Adrian On Mar 24, 2013, at 6:26 AM, Ben Scott wrote: > I have a package (kvpm) that Kai Wasserbäch sponsored for upload > into the repository. I need to upload an impor

Re: is Kai Wasserbäch still active?

2013-03-25 Thread John Paul Adrian Glaubitz
for you to get the package into better shape for Debian Jessie. Cheers, Adrian -- To UNSUBSCRIBE, email to debian-devel-requ...@lists.debian.org with a subject of "unsubscribe". Trouble? Contact listmas...@lists.debian.org Archive: http://lists.debian.org/515017ed.7040...@physik.fu-berlin.de

Bug#704100: ITP: jubatus -- jubatus: Distributed Online Machine Learning Framework

2013-03-27 Thread John Paul Adrian Glaubitz
Package: wnpp Severity: wishlist Owner: John Paul Adrian Glaubitz * Package name: jubatus Version : 0.4.2 Upstream Author : The Jubatus Team * URL : http://jubat.us * License : LGPL v2.1 Programming Lang: C++, Python Description : jubatus: Distributed

Re: Bug#704124: codename 'rc-buggy' not handled correctly

2013-03-28 Thread John Paul Adrian Glaubitz
y" the official code name for experimental? Adrian -- .''`. John Paul Adrian Glaubitz : :' : Debian Developer - glaub...@debian.org `. `' Freie Universitaet Berlin - glaub...@physik.fu-berlin.de `-GPG: 62FF 8A75 84E0 2956 9546 0006 7426 3B37 F5B5 F913 -- To

Re: Bug#455769: same problem on wheezy + Thinkpad X220T

2013-03-28 Thread John Paul Adrian Glaubitz
Debian on a laptop since around 2004, on various machines like the Thinkpad 240X, X40, T42, T60, T23. Adrian -- .''`. John Paul Adrian Glaubitz : :' : Debian Developer - glaub...@debian.org `. `' Freie Universitaet Berlin - glaub...@physik.fu-berlin.de `-GPG: 62FF

Re: Bug#455769: same problem on wheezy + Thinkpad X220T

2013-03-28 Thread John Paul Adrian Glaubitz
hese issues should rather be addressed upstream. Adrian -- .''`. John Paul Adrian Glaubitz : :' : Debian Developer - glaub...@debian.org `. `' Freie Universitaet Berlin - glaub...@physik.fu-berlin.de `-GPG: 62FF 8A75 84E0 2956 9546 0006 7426 3B37 F5B5 F913

Re: missing libgl1-mesa-dri in upgrades

2013-04-01 Thread John Paul Adrian Glaubitz
any, is not in Empathy but any of its dependencies. I'd have a look at Clutter. Also, have you tried running Empathy on a non-compositing window manager when libgl1-mesa-dri is not installed? Cheers, Adrian -- .''`. John Paul Adrian Glaubitz : :' : Debian Developer

Re: missing libgl1-mesa-dri in upgrades

2013-04-01 Thread John Paul Adrian Glaubitz
ies. Also, have you tried running Empathy on a non-compositing window manager when libgl1-mesa-dri is not installed? I'm happy to try that, can you propose which window manager I should try? I know fvwm quite well and don't mind installing that. Yeah, fvwm doesn't really do

Bug#704997: ITP: cw-driver -- Driver and utilities for the Catweasel versatile floppy disk controller

2013-04-08 Thread John Paul Adrian Glaubitz
Package: wnpp Severity: wishlist Owner: John Paul Adrian Glaubitz * Package name: cw-driver Version : 0.14 Upstream Author : Karsten Scheibler * URL : http://unusedino.de/cw/ * License : GPL-2 Programming Lang: C Description : Driver and utilities for

Re: Bug#705015: ITP: ie7-js -- help Internet Explorer behave like a standards-compliant browser

2013-04-08 Thread John Paul Adrian Glaubitz
Explorer 7 available for non-Windows platforms? Wine? Cheers, Adrian -- .''`. John Paul Adrian Glaubitz : :' : Debian Developer - glaub...@debian.org `. `' Freie Universitaet Berlin - glaub...@physik.fu-berlin.de `-GPG: 62FF 8A75 84E0 2956 9546 0006 7426 3B

Re: Bug#705015: ITP: ie7-js -- help Internet Explorer behave like a standards-compliant browser

2013-04-08 Thread John Paul Adrian Glaubitz
, but here it's about redefining or overlaying existing features. Makes sense and sounds pretty cool! Thanks for clearing that up! Adrian -- .''`. John Paul Adrian Glaubitz : :' : Debian Developer - glaub...@debian.org `. `' Freie Universitaet Berlin - glaub...@physik.

Re: can someone explain what is happen on line one from this listing?

2013-05-11 Thread John Paul Adrian Glaubitz
k. it is interesting but in all my test/hacks i never have see a "lost interrupt" Then it's obviously a hardware issue and not a software issue and your question is not fit on a mailing list focusing on software development. Cheers, Adrian > [1] http://vger.kernel.org/vger-lis

Re: /bin/sh (was Re: jessie release goals)

2013-05-12 Thread John Paul Adrian Glaubitz
that we have the capability in Debian to choose between different kernels, so I guess it's natural that we have discussions about being able to make choices for init as well :). Cheers, Adrian -- .''`. John Paul Adrian Glaubitz : :' : Debian Developer - glaub...@deb

Re: Bug#729660: ITP: xemacs21 -- highly customizable text editor

2013-11-16 Thread John Paul Adrian Glaubitz
RC bugs not getting fixed in time is simply too high. I remember fixing RC bugs in several packages in Wheezy during the freeze where upstream was no longer available and we had to dig through the code and fix the bugs ourselves. I want to avoid such situations in the future! I support Paul's

Re: Bug#729660: ITP: xemacs21 -- highly customizable text editor

2013-11-16 Thread John Paul Adrian Glaubitz
somebody else does the work". This at >> the >> moment does not work, therefore a different strategy is needed. > > Please ask for lintian autotest like the gfdl one. I will implement gladly. Ouuh, that would be awesome! lintian kicks ass! Adrian -- .''`. John

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