debian/rules "make -f" restriction

2009-10-28 Thread Tobi
Hello! Debian Policy 4.9 says about debian/rules: "It must start with the line #!/usr/bin/make -f, so that it can be invoked by saying its name rather than invoking make explicitly." In the VDR and VDR plugin packages, we use something like this: /bin/sh debian/make-special-vdr.sh make-spec

Re: debian/rules "make -f" restriction

2009-10-28 Thread Tobi
Julien Cristau schrieb: asks for a password. Sorry, wrong link: http://svn.debian.org/wsvn/pkg-vdr-dvb/vdr/vdr/trunk/debian/make-special-vdr.sh > also nothing in what you said explains why you can't do what you want using a makefile. Because make-special-vdr.sh needs to modify debian/rul

Re: debian/rules "make -f" restriction

2009-10-28 Thread Tobi
Fabian Greffrath wrote: > Why not so it the other way round, i.e. start two different scripts (or > the same script with different parameters) from a debian/rules Makefile > depending on the environment variable? Might be possible, but it would require major changes to debian/rules, but our goal

Re: debian/rules "make -f" restriction

2009-10-28 Thread Tobi
Manoj Srivastava wrote: > This is what the make directive 'include' is all > about. Conditionally, include fileA or fileB. Each file is all > uncontaminated now. > > This is not a technical shortcoming of using Makefiles. You're right. What we do might be possible from "within

Re: debian/rules "make -f" restriction

2009-10-29 Thread Tobi
Michael Tautschnig wrote: > Adhering to a standard actually decreases complexity. What may seem "elegant" > at > first makes it a lot harder for other people to step in. For example, the > VDR-solution IMHO doesn't decrease complexity, it merely hides it. Yes, it indeed hides some complexity. Bu

Re: debian/rules "make -f" restriction

2009-10-29 Thread Tobi
Michael Tautschnig schrieb: In an earlier post you mentioned a pbuilder build process: If that is what you are using, why not go for pbuilder hooks? This would surely be possible, but then the users compiling their own packages will complain :-) @all: Thanks for your technical suggestions! T

Re: debian/rules "make -f" restriction

2009-10-29 Thread Tobi
Philipp Kern wrote: > I didn't say that, right? Please don't lay words into my mouth. I said > "here" to specify the concrete case of policy describing the first n bytes > of debian/rules despite the interface being completely in accordance with > the normal procedures (i.e. being a Makefile and

Re: debian/rules "make -f" restriction

2009-10-29 Thread Tobi
Manoj Srivastava wrote: > If I ahve the magic variables set, and call it as > % make -f ./debian/rules, > I get the standard behaviour. If I turn around and call it as > % ./debian/rules, > I get totally different behaviour. True but if you DON'T set the magic variable, you g

Re: debian/rules "make -f" restriction

2009-10-30 Thread Tobi
Kalle Kivimaa wrote: > the special cases are needed? debian/rules is a specific interface for > Debian building, why are you using that same interface for other > purposes? It's just because we believe this is the easiest to use and easiest to maintain way to do this: Build a standard vdr-plugin

Re: debian/rules "make -f" restriction

2009-10-30 Thread Tobi
Michael Tautschnig schrieb: I think Manoj already explained quite well why policy is that specific about a single line. And I explaind why the policy is over specific in this case :-) The modified shebang line didn't had any drawback in the past and wouldn't have any drawback in the future.

Re: debian/rules "make -f" restriction

2009-10-30 Thread Tobi
Manoj Srivastava schrieb: 1. SPECIAL_VDR_SUFFIX=devel make -f debian/rules build 2. make -f debian/rules SPECIAL_VDR_SUFFIX=devel build 3. SPECIAL_VDR_SUFFIX=devel ./debian/rules build 4. ./debian/rules SPECIAL_VDR_SUFFIX=devel build Giving you differing results is confusing enough to anyo

Re: system users

2008-11-21 Thread Tobi
Vincent Bernat wrote: > Here is the list of package that name the user with the name of the > source package: - vdr:vdr Tobias -- To UNSUBSCRIBE, email to [EMAIL PROTECTED] with a subject of "unsubscribe". Trouble? Contact [EMAIL PROTECTED]

Re: Debian -- the best

2008-12-19 Thread Tobi
> Let me express my appreciation and gratitude for Debian. Reading debian-devel during the last weeks, I had the same feeling that some positive counterpart to the recent discussions is needed to somehow keep the "balance". I intended to post the top 5 reasons, why I love Debian, but you were fast

Re: building packages/ chroot/ pbuilder/...

2009-01-12 Thread Tobi
Grammostola Rosea wrote: > How should I do it? I've seen a lot of different tools/ways on the > web... please give me some clear information and good references. Check out cowbuilder. The follwing references should get you going: http://wiki.debian.org/cowbuilder https://wiki.ubuntu.com/Cowdance

Re: An ITP looks like forgotten

2010-05-11 Thread Tobi
Am 11.05.2010 10:41, schrieb Cleto Martin Angelina: The bug #539568 is an ITP for a C++ sockets library. The ITP was created on Augus'09. I'm interested in this package too, and I wrote an email to the bug author and I've received that his email does not exists. In this cases, what should be do