How to use lsb init-functions

2005-11-22 Thread Thomas Hood
lure_msg "Foo failed." ; fi Is this what I should do, or is there another solution I am overlooking; or do we need more functions; or does the whole system need to be reworked? -- Thomas Hood -- To UNSUBSCRIBE, email to [EMAIL PROTECTED] with a subject of "unsubscribe". Trouble? Contact [EMAIL PROTECTED]

Not delete symlinks to directories in /var/run/ ?

2005-11-22 Thread Thomas Hood
tories. "! -xtype d" in the absence of "-L" matches everything except directories and symbolic links to directories. Thus IIUC the latter eliminates the need for the former. I am cc:ing this to debian-devel in order to solicit opinions. Please reply to [EMAIL PROTECTED], not to t

Re: Re: Bug#340428: octave2.9 - lists mailing list as uploader in changelog

2005-11-24 Thread Thomas Weber
member of the debian-installer team. I never say uploads > with such entries. http://lists.debian.org/debian-devel-changes/2005/11/msg01337.html Regards Thomas -- To UNSUBSCRIBE, email to [EMAIL PROTECTED] with a subject of "unsubscribe". Trouble? Contact [EMAIL PROTECTED]

Re: texlive-basic_2005-1_i386.changes REJECTED

2005-11-28 Thread Thomas Viehmann
nison - as expressions of personal taste doesn't really reflect the fact that consistency is a quality Debian users look for in packages. If you provide the TeX live names in the long description, people will be able to find stuff by the usual package search functions. Kind regards T. -- Thoma

Re: Automatic closing of bugs

2005-12-02 Thread Thomas Viehmann
Hi Matt, if that would help, I'd include a (n option that allows to) check via bts2ldap + the attached script into dput. That'd be less intrusive than changing the behaviour of Closes:, for better or worse. Kind regards T. -- Thomas Viehmann, http://thomas.viehmann.net/ #!/usr/

Re: Automatic closing of bugs

2005-12-02 Thread Thomas Viehmann
Thomas Viehmann wrote: > if sys.stdin.readline()[1:] not in ['y','Y']: For added utility I might want to improve on that. Kind regards T. -- Thomas Viehmann, http://thomas.viehmann.net/ 'What'll we drink to?' Nick asked, holding up the glass. 'Let

Re: StrongARM tactics

2005-12-05 Thread Thomas Viehmann
actual debugging, both not arm-specific. If you're deperate for people looking at build-failures, that's OK, but only few of them seem really arm-specific. Kind regards T. -- Thomas Viehmann, http://thomas.viehmann.net/ -- To UNSUBSCRIBE, email to [EMAIL PROTECTED] with a subject o

Re: StrongARM tactics

2005-12-06 Thread Thomas Viehmann
tion of the buildd maintainer is needed > at this time to get something build. The dep-wait is well inside the "some action of the buildd maintainer is needed". The needed P-a-s entries could be handeled centrally if the problem description is "pile of maybe-failed packages&qu

Re: StrongARM tactics

2005-12-06 Thread Thomas Viehmann
ight also work on amd64 ia64 (depends on dmidecode) OTOH, maintainer usually seems to know what he's doing... libpam-encfs: isn't arch-specific, see #340575. Maybe random arch disabling should be RC... %ogre-contrib: i386 amd64 # don't know, in contrib

Re: StrongARM tactics

2005-12-06 Thread Thomas Viehmann
ery two weeks or so. My guess was that then if changes are submitted in bulk, declaring something seeing no porter attention for a year is OK to list in P-a-s. Kind regards T. -- Thomas Viehmann, http://thomas.viehmann.net/ -- To UNSUBSCRIBE, email to [EMAIL PROTECTED] with a subject of "unsubscribe". Trouble? Contact [EMAIL PROTECTED]

Re: buildd administration [was Re: StrongARM tactics]

2005-12-08 Thread Thomas Viehmann
u think problematic but the rest of the thread rather spells "don't bother". Kind regards T. -- Thomas Viehmann, http://thomas.viehmann.net/ -- To UNSUBSCRIBE, email to [EMAIL PROTECTED] with a subject of "unsubscribe". Trouble? Contact [EMAIL PROTECTED]

Bug#342571: general: Apache1.3 and mod-php4: getlastmod() is broken

2005-12-08 Thread Thomas Hooge
Package: general Severity: normal getlastmod() returns always the current time, filemtime() works as expected. php.net says: >Apache and PHP have been compiled with the same value for >-DFILE_OFFSET_BITS Perhaps this is the reason? -- System Information: Debian Release: 3.1 Architecture: i386 (i

ALSA packager needed

2005-12-09 Thread Thomas Hood
The ALSA packaging team needs help. We really need someone with expertise in programming for the ALSA library. If you are able to help us, please contact us at [EMAIL PROTECTED] -- Thomas Hood -- To UNSUBSCRIBE, email to [EMAIL PROTECTED] with a subject of "unsubscribe". Troubl

Co-maintainers sought

2005-12-09 Thread Thomas Hood
I seek co-maintainers for: mwavem thinkpad, tpctl resolvconf -- Thomas Hood -- To UNSUBSCRIBE, email to [EMAIL PROTECTED] with a subject of "unsubscribe". Trouble? Contact [EMAIL PROTECTED]

Re: StrongARM tactics

2005-12-12 Thread Thomas Viehmann
(NOT automatically updated though, scripts in my ~ on p.d.o) 2. http://people.debian.org/~tviehmann/couldretry.txt -- Thomas Viehmann, http://thomas.viehmann.net/ -- To UNSUBSCRIBE, email to [EMAIL PROTECTED] with a subject of "unsubscribe". Trouble? Contact [EMAIL PROTECTED]

Re: StrongARM tactics

2005-12-12 Thread Thomas Viehmann
(NOT automatically updated though, scripts in my ~ on p.d.o) 2. http://people.debian.org/~tviehmann/couldretry.txt -- Thomas Viehmann, http://thomas.viehmann.net/ -- To UNSUBSCRIBE, email to [EMAIL PROTECTED] with a subject of "unsubscribe". Trouble? Contact [EMAIL PROTECTED]

Re: Debian and the desktop

2005-12-14 Thread Thomas Viehmann
cannibalize these, maybe? Are there technical issues, too, or is it just the naming? I'm sorry, but my vage recollection is that someone somewhere wanted to have menu transitioned to desktop, but I don't think that this has ever been done... Kind regards T. -- Thomas Viehmann, http

Re: Debian and the desktop

2005-12-14 Thread Thomas Viehmann
1. http://standards.freedesktop.org/menu-spec/latest/apa.html 2. http://standards.freedesktop.org/desktop-entry-spec/latest/ http://standards.freedesktop.org/menu-spec/latest/ -- Thomas Viehmann, http://thomas.viehmann.net/ -- To UNSUBSCRIBE, email to [EMAIL PROTECTED] with a subject of "unsubscribe". Trouble? Contact [EMAIL PROTECTED]

ALSA packager needed

2005-12-17 Thread Thomas Hood
does involve some work. There is a new upstream release candidate out now (1.0.11rc1) and I would like to take the opportunity to go through the process with the new volunteer. -- Thomas Hood -- To UNSUBSCRIBE, email to [EMAIL PROTECTED] with a subject of "unsubscribe". Trouble? Cont

Please test new sysvinit, sysv-rc, initscripts

2005-12-17 Thread Thomas Hood
INIT_VERBOSE=yes kernel parameter. Is the boot more verbose? Any glitches in any of the messages? -- Thomas Hood -- To UNSUBSCRIBE, email to [EMAIL PROTECTED] with a subject of "unsubscribe". Trouble? Contact [EMAIL PROTECTED]

Re: /run vs /var/run (was: Please test new sysvinit)

2005-12-18 Thread Thomas Hood
ble by hiding it in /lib > alongside /lib/modules. The problem is that some people find /lib/run uglier than /run. ;) -- Thomas Hood -- To UNSUBSCRIBE, email to [EMAIL PROTECTED] with a subject of "unsubscribe". Trouble? Contact [EMAIL PROTECTED]

Re: /run vs /var/run (was: Please test new sysvinit)

2005-12-19 Thread Thomas Hood
ore than "-policy support" would be an > appropriate claim if Manoj had said it looked okay. Agreed. Fortunately, I didn't claim that. -- Thomas Hood -- To UNSUBSCRIBE, email to [EMAIL PROTECTED] with a subject of "unsubscribe". Trouble? Contact [EMAIL PROTECTED]

Re: /run vs /var/run (was: Please test new sysvinit)

2005-12-19 Thread Thomas Hood
eryone agrees that /run is to be used only for those very few purposes for which /var/run cannot be used. If there are worries about abuse then I would suggest the addition of a sentence to Policy forbidding such abuse. -- Thomas Hood -- To UNSUBSCRIBE, email to [EMAIL PROTECTED] with a subject of

Re: /run vs /var/run (was: Please test new sysvinit)

2005-12-19 Thread Thomas Hood
ot occur until the filesystem underlying /run is mounted read-write and programs must not use /run before the cleaning has been completed; it would probably be easier to drop the cleanliness-at-boot guarantee and let programs clean out their own stale files. -- Thomas Hood -- To UNSUBSCRI

Re: Please test the new sysvinit

2005-12-19 Thread Thomas Hood
So, has anyone tested the new packages? -- Thomas Hood -- To UNSUBSCRIBE, email to [EMAIL PROTECTED] with a subject of "unsubscribe". Trouble? Contact [EMAIL PROTECTED]

Re: /run vs /var/run

2005-12-19 Thread Thomas Hood
'run' rather than 'lib'. Hence R should be /run. Briefly, if R is like /var/run except that it supports programs needed to boot the system and run commands on the root filesystem, then it should be another "run" directory, but at the top level. Here's another possible argument: Putting R in /lib spoils the otherwise read-only character of that directory. -- Thomas Hood -- To UNSUBSCRIBE, email to [EMAIL PROTECTED] with a subject of "unsubscribe". Trouble? Contact [EMAIL PROTECTED]

Re: /run vs /var/run (was: Please test new sysvinit)

2005-12-19 Thread Thomas Hood
ould ever be accused of lacking zeal in enforcing its Policy. :) Cheers, -- Thomas -- To UNSUBSCRIBE, email to [EMAIL PROTECTED] with a subject of "unsubscribe". Trouble? Contact [EMAIL PROTECTED]

/run vs. /lib/run

2005-12-19 Thread Thomas Hood
Any other defenders of /lib/run? Of /run? -- Thomas Hood -- To UNSUBSCRIBE, email to [EMAIL PROTECTED] with a subject of "unsubscribe". Trouble? Contact [EMAIL PROTECTED]

Re: /run vs. /lib/run

2005-12-20 Thread Thomas Hood
al changes necessary to > ensure /var is mounted early]? Thomas? > > Here are the cases: [...] > For (d) and (e) you need special handling; using /run as a tmpfs and > setting up /var/run -> /run symlinks on both / and /var. That's pretty > special handling [...] This is

Re: /run vs /var/run

2005-12-20 Thread Thomas Hood
Gabor Gombas wrote: > ... I'd like to have a check for /run (or /lib/run or whatever) > being empty at the end of the boot process The new mountvirtfs prints such warnings for all the "virtual" filesystems. -- Thomas Hood -- To UNSUBSCRIBE, email to [EMAIL PROTECT

Re: /run vs /var/run (was: Please test new sysvinit)

2005-12-20 Thread Thomas Hood
te filesystem then, yes, it can be cleaned immediately after it is mounted (after S35mountall.sh). -- Thomas -- To UNSUBSCRIBE, email to [EMAIL PROTECTED] with a subject of "unsubscribe". Trouble? Contact [EMAIL PROTECTED]

Re: Thoughts on Debian quality, including automated testing

2005-12-21 Thread Thomas Hood
litary package ownership has made some Debian packages into bastions of untended bugs. -- Thomas Hood -- To UNSUBSCRIBE, email to [EMAIL PROTECTED] with a subject of "unsubscribe". Trouble? Contact [EMAIL PROTECTED]

Re: Thoughts on Debian quality, including automated testing

2005-12-21 Thread Thomas Hood
stellar job that they need a babysitter is a bit... insulting. This is not a fair characterization of what the introduction of a two-maintainer rule would be doing. No one should be insulted by general rule changes designed to make Debian work better. -- Thomas Hood -- To UNSUBSCRI

Re: Thoughts on Debian quality, including automated testing

2005-12-21 Thread Thomas Hood
vel. That's less of a burden than that imposed by many another Debian rule. Fortunately for your position, it probably won't take arguments to kill this idea. -- Thomas Hood -- To UNSUBSCRIBE, email to [EMAIL PROTECTED] with a subject of "unsubscribe". Trouble? Contact [EMAIL PROTECTED]

Re: Thoughts on Debian quality, including automated testing

2005-12-21 Thread Thomas Hood
re feeling in a conspiracy-theorist mood then > I'd suggest that those who are promoting team maintainance are trying > to gain power while evading responsibility. Well, you do suggest it here. And what you suggest makes no sense, so let's not rule out the possibility that you are

Re: Thoughts on Debian quality, including automated testing

2005-12-22 Thread Thomas Hood
r things can be done to help individual maintainers fix more bugs and fix them better? -- Thomas Hood -- To UNSUBSCRIBE, email to [EMAIL PROTECTED] with a subject of "unsubscribe". Trouble? Contact [EMAIL PROTECTED]

New experimental sysvinit

2005-12-22 Thread Thomas Hood
never: DELAYLOGIN=no No-login mode always: rm -f /etc/nologin ; :> /etc/nologin Anyone see any problems with this scheme? Any better ideas? -- Thomas Hood -- To UNSUBSCRIBE, email to [EMAIL PROTECTED] with a subject of "unsubscribe". Trouble? Contact [EMAIL PROTECTED]

New experimental sysvinit

2005-12-22 Thread Thomas Hood
plete: DELAYLOGIN=yes No-login mode never: rm -f /var/lib/initscripts/nologin ; DELAYLOGIN=no No-login mode always: touch /var/lib/initscripts/nologin ; DELAYLOGIN=no Anyone see any problems with this scheme? Any better ideas? -- Thomas Hood -- To UNSUBSCRIBE, email to [

Re: New experimental sysvinit

2005-12-23 Thread Thomas Hood
Henrique de Moraes Holschuh wrote: > How well that works with /var in a separate partition? It should work fine because S55bootmisc.sh runs after S45mountnfs.sh. -- Thomas -- To UNSUBSCRIBE, email to [EMAIL PROTECTED] with a subject of "unsubscribe". Trouble? Contact [EMAIL PROTECTED]

Re: New experimental sysvinit

2005-12-23 Thread Thomas Hood
m trying to modify an existing feature (to make it compatible with a read-only root filesystem) without altering its behavior any more than necessary. -- Thomas Hood -- To UNSUBSCRIBE, email to [EMAIL PROTECTED] with a subject of "unsubscribe". Trouble? Contact [EMAIL PROTECTED]

Re: New experimental sysvinit

2005-12-27 Thread Thomas Hood
> A new version of sysvinit is being prepared for release to experimental. OK, sysvinit 2.86.ds1-8 is now in incoming. TIA for testing it. ;) -- Thomas Hood -- To UNSUBSCRIBE, email to [EMAIL PROTECTED] with a subject of "unsubscribe". Trouble? Contact [EMAIL PROTECTED]

Package dependencies due to documentation relationships?

2005-12-30 Thread Thomas Hood
recommendations about how documentation relationships should be reflected in package dependencies? -- Thomas Hood -- To UNSUBSCRIBE, email to [EMAIL PROTECTED] with a subject of "unsubscribe". Trouble? Contact [EMAIL PROTECTED]

Re: How to Increase Contributions from Volunteers

2006-01-03 Thread Thomas Hood
here should be room for different kinds of projects, including exclusive hobby clubs. -- Thomas Hood -- To UNSUBSCRIBE, email to [EMAIL PROTECTED] with a subject of "unsubscribe". Trouble? Contact [EMAIL PROTECTED]

Re: How to Increase Contributions from Volunteers

2006-01-03 Thread Thomas Hood
mprehensive listing of all the Debian _maintainers_ accompanied with a list of packages they maintain", instead of "...developers..." (which would also be more accurate since non-DD maintainers are already listed). And so on. Reword with the principle in mind that there are many contributors to Debian who are not Debian Developers®. -- Thomas Hood

Re: How to Increase Contributions from Volunteers

2006-01-04 Thread Thomas Hood
e current NM process would regard those points as weaknesses in Debian's defenses, which should be closed rather than advertized. -- Thomas Hood -- To UNSUBSCRIBE, email to [EMAIL PROTECTED] with a subject of "unsubscribe". Trouble? Contact [EMAIL PROTECTED]

Re: Debian for desktop - gnome in usnstable/experimantal more stable than in testing ?

2006-01-04 Thread Thomas Dickey
ge in #202, which was reported by two other people. It's fixed in the package #204. 208 is current... -- Thomas E. Dickey http://invisible-island.net ftp://invisible-island.net -- To UNSUBSCRIBE, email to [EMAIL PROTECTED] with a subject of "unsubscribe". Trouble? Contact [EMAIL PROTECTED]

Re: How to Increase Contributions from Volunteers

2006-01-04 Thread Thomas Hood
e simultaneously. I'd call it the "obscure the point game", because the pairs of statements were meant to illustrate a difference in attitude, not a set of absolute contradictions. But I think you know that. Because you are really playing another game, which I'll dub &qu

Re: APT public key updates?

2006-01-06 Thread Thomas Viehmann
leaves the question how not to have that key compromised. Kind regards T. -- Thomas Viehmann, http://thomas.viehmann.net/ -- To UNSUBSCRIBE, email to [EMAIL PROTECTED] with a subject of "unsubscribe". Trouble? Contact [EMAIL PROTECTED]

Re: Fwd: Bug#344758: init.d script should create /var/run/dirmngr

2006-01-06 Thread Thomas Hood
Would it be useful if the initscript that clears /var/run also created a directory hierarchy under /var/run? (There are different ways of implementing thus, but we can talk about details if this feature is deemed worthwhile.) -- Thomas Hood -- To UNSUBSCRIBE, email to [EMAIL PROTECTED] with a

Re: Need for launchpad

2006-01-09 Thread Thomas Viehmann
d have done better with identification of DDs [1]. Kind regards T. 1. https://launchpad.net/people/debiandevelopers -- Thomas Viehmann, http://thomas.viehmann.net/ -- To UNSUBSCRIBE, email to [EMAIL PROTECTED] with a subject of "unsubscribe". Trouble? Contact [EMAIL PROTECTED]

Re: APT public key updates?

2006-01-10 Thread Thomas Viehmann
ase")) { Well, anyone using the mirror can then verify. If you're just trying to determine whether or not Release corresponds to Release.gpg this behaviour is much saner than assuming Release invalid, because debmirror would attempt to fix that by regetting. Kind regards T. -- Thomas Vieh

Re: Development standards for unstable

2006-01-12 Thread Thomas Viehmann
emoval of Maybe this should not only be limited to packages with RC bugs... For a lot of packages with inactive maintainers, it might be best to not release them in etch. Kind regards T. -- Thomas Viehmann, http://thomas.viehmann.net/ -- To UNSUBSCRIBE, email to [EMAIL PROTECTED] with a subj

Fwd: Bug#344758: init.d script should create /var/run/dirmngr

2006-01-12 Thread Thomas Hood
ded. :) As pointed out by Peter Samuelson, this dir should be removed by the postrm on purge. I would advise not including /var/run/foo in the package since it is superfluous and its presence could hide a bug in your directory-creation code. -- Thomas Hood -- To UNSUBSCRIBE, email to [EMAIL PROTECT

Re: Development standards for unstable

2006-01-12 Thread Thomas Viehmann
unsupported packages no developer cares about is a bad idea. Really, how about just automatically[1] removing orphaned packages without maintained rdepends from testing? Kind regards T. [1] And yes, I'd maintain a list if it's considered a good idea. -- Thomas Viehmann, http://thomas.

Re: Development standards for unstable

2006-01-13 Thread Thomas Viehmann
with those that presently are. There's 169 orphaned packages today, why not do something about them? Kind regards T. -- Thomas Viehmann, http://thomas.viehmann.net/ -- To UNSUBSCRIBE, email to [EMAIL PROTECTED] with a subject of "unsubscribe". Trouble? Contact [EMAIL PROTECTED]

Re: Need for launchpad

2006-01-13 Thread Thomas Hood
be suitable for Debian. I agree that it would be nice if Ubuntu developers tried to get their changes into sid. It is certainly not their responsibility to do so, but in my experience Ubuntu developers have been very cooperative when they have been approached. So I don't see a big problem. -- Th

Re: Need for launchpad

2006-01-13 Thread Thomas Hood
uld everyone be happy then? I doubt it. [0] Here: http://ubuntu.com/ubuntu/relationship?highlight=%28debian%29 there's a claim that "they send their bugfixes to the Debian developers responsible for that package in debian and record the patch URL in the debian bug system." -- Thomas Hood -- To UNSUBSCRIBE, email to [EMAIL PROTECTED] with a subject of "unsubscribe". Trouble? Contact [EMAIL PROTECTED]

Re: Development standards for unstable

2006-01-14 Thread Thomas Viehmann
Russ Allbery wrote: > Thomas Viehmann <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> writes: > > >>Can you elaborate on this? I'm not sure how the existence of more >>packages that should be orphaned invalidates dealing with those that >>presently are. > > >>There&#

Re: Development standards for unstable

2006-01-14 Thread Thomas Viehmann
ki.debian.org/CollaborativeMaintenance > Of course, it's easier to say than to do and I have only 24 hours per day. Sorry, Raphael, I appreciate you're effort to promote and enable collaborative maintenance very much, but it's not the holy grail solving all maintenance problems. P

Re: Need for launchpad

2006-01-15 Thread Thomas Hood
your package. I have seen changes in some packages that looked gratuitious, but then I have been comforted by the thought that the perpetrators of gratuitous changes are the ones who have to pay the price for it, because they have to carry such changes forward. -- Thomas Hood -- To UNSUBSCR

Re: New experimental sysvinit

2006-01-15 Thread Thomas Hood
base in regarding this to be a candidate for release to unstable. Again, TIA for testing it. -- Thomas Hood -- To UNSUBSCRIBE, email to [EMAIL PROTECTED] with a subject of "unsubscribe". Trouble? Contact [EMAIL PROTECTED]

Re: Development standards for unstable

2006-01-16 Thread Thomas Viehmann
Russ Allbery wrote: > Thomas Viehmann <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> writes: >>Russ Allbery wrote: >>>The thing is... most of the orphaned packages are in fairly good shape. >>How do you know? > Well, because at one point I went through the PTS for each one of them, > che

Re: Survey on Debian contributors

2006-01-17 Thread Thomas Weber
income): Is this before of after taxes? If you are free to choose, I suggest after taxes -- gross salaries are very difficult to compare. Thomas -- To UNSUBSCRIBE, email to [EMAIL PROTECTED] with a subject of "unsubscribe". Trouble? Contact [EMAIL PROTECTED]

Re: Bug#348607: ITP: gtkedit -- Notepad clone based on GTK+

2006-01-17 Thread Thomas Weber
sourceforge.net > * License : MIT > Description : Notepad clone based on GTK+ > > GTKEdit is a lightweight Notepad clone designed for low performance > systems Do you really want to introduce a GTK 1.2 application into unstable at this point of time? R

Re: when and why did python(-minimal) become essential?

2006-01-18 Thread Thomas Hood
re that python-minimal be Essential: yes in Debian. In any case I am hoping to see python-minimal included in Debian. -- Thomas Hood -- To UNSUBSCRIBE, email to [EMAIL PROTECTED] with a subject of "unsubscribe". Trouble? Contact [EMAIL PROTECTED]

Re: udev naming problems for eth*

2006-01-18 Thread Thomas Hood
looks at its properties, and... * Kernel creates eth1 * ...tries to rename it to 'eth1', but that name is taken -- Thomas Hood -- To UNSUBSCRIBE, email to [EMAIL PROTECTED] with a subject of "unsubscribe". Trouble? Contact [EMAIL PROTECTED]

Re: when and why did python(-minimal) become essential?

2006-01-18 Thread Thomas Hood
> In any case I am hoping to see python-minimal included in Debian. I now see that it is already in sid. :) $ apt-cache madison python-minimal python-minimal |2.3.5-5 | http://ftp.nl.debian.org sid/main Packages -- Thomas Hood -- To UNSUBSCRIBE, email to [EMAIL PROTECTED] with a subj

Re: udev naming problems for eth*

2006-01-18 Thread Thomas Hood
me # Rename it to the temporary name. # Then try several times to rename it to new name Now "trying several times", etc., may work, but it's a kludge. There are sound ways of resolving contention for a shared resource. -- Thomas Hood -- To UNSUBSCRIBE, email to [EMA

Re: when and why did python(-minimal) become essential?

2006-01-20 Thread Thomas Hood
The stripped down python interpreter would be "hidden" from command-line users but would still be available for use by packaged programs. Thomas Bushnell wrote: > Ok, but now I'm confused: why is python-minimal needed in Essential? > Why not simply depend on it straightforwardly?

Re: Need for launchpad

2006-01-20 Thread Thomas Hood
icated back directly to the Debian > developers responsible for that package in Debian and record the patch > URL in the debian bug system. -- Thomas Hood -- To UNSUBSCRIBE, email to [EMAIL PROTECTED] with a subject of "unsubscribe". Trouble? Contact [EMAIL PROTECTED]

Re: when and why did python(-minimal) become essential?

2006-01-23 Thread Thomas Hood
imal. Thus if upstream's concern is that users not have a stripped down python, then Debian provides a stripped down "python-minimal" instead. -- Thomas Hood

GPL version option

2006-01-24 Thread Thomas Hood
My guess is that there may be other packages out there that need to be reviewed with respect to the granting or non-granting of the GPL version option. -- Thomas Hood -- To UNSUBSCRIBE, email to [EMAIL PROTECTED] with a subject of "unsubscribe". Trouble? Contact [EMAIL PROTECTED]

Re: /run vs. /lib/run

2006-01-25 Thread Thomas Hood
x27;t forget to set ownership and permissions. -- Thomas Hood -- To UNSUBSCRIBE, email to [EMAIL PROTECTED] with a subject of "unsubscribe". Trouble? Contact [EMAIL PROTECTED]

Re: svn problem: Can you help me?

2006-01-29 Thread Thomas Weber
Hi Lionel, Am Sonntag, den 29.01.2006, 22:11 +0100 schrieb Lionel Elie Mamane: > What does that mean and how do I get out of this dead-end? Thanks in > advance. Does this one help? http://svn.haxx.se/users/archive-2003-07/0133.shtml Thomas -- To UNSUBSCRIBE, email to

Re: Amendment to GR on GFDL, and the changes to the Social Contract

2006-02-09 Thread Thomas Weber
aking this classification, where do you put PostScript files -- software or documentation? Regards Thomas -- To UNSUBSCRIBE, email to [EMAIL PROTECTED] with a subject of "unsubscribe". Trouble? Contact [EMAIL PROTECTED]

pbuilder, xvfb and nonexisting /tmp/.X11-unix

2006-02-12 Thread Thomas Viehmann
d is build-depending on fakeroot and calling fakeroot xvfb-run. Any better ideas? Kind regards T. -- Thomas Viehmann, http://thomas.viehmann.net/ -- To UNSUBSCRIBE, email to [EMAIL PROTECTED] with a subject of "unsubscribe". Trouble? Contact [EMAIL PROTECTED]

Re: Honesty in Debian (was Re: Amendment to GR on GFDL, and the changes to the Social Contract

2006-02-13 Thread Thomas Weber
o to interactive PDFs and -- while we are at it -- let's think about HTML files with Javascript. What are these? Documentation, computer programs, both? If they are both (which is probably the best description), which guidelines should be applied? Regards Thomas -- To UNSUBSC

Re: pbuilder, xvfb and nonexisting /tmp/.X11-unix

2006-02-13 Thread Thomas Viehmann
Hi Daniel, thank you! Daniel Schepler wrote: > Have you tried just recreating base.tgz with an up-to-date pbuilder? Ah, no. Cool. I'll have to file a wishlist item against pbuilder to update its configuration upon update. Kind regards T. -- Thomas Viehmann, http://thomas.vieh

Re: [Pbuilder-maint] pbuilder, xvfb and nonexisting /tmp/.X11-unix

2006-02-15 Thread Thomas Viehmann
think of him not using unstable). I like your idea of customizing pbuilder chroots with debs. I'm not fond of recreating the base.tgz because I have some customizations (editor...) in my chroot. Kind regards T. -- Thomas Viehmann, http://thomas.viehmann.net/ -- To UNSUBSCRIBE, email to [EM

Re: PROPOSAL: debian/control file to include new License: field

2006-02-21 Thread Thomas Viehmann
2. http://bugs.debian.org/336982 3. http://sponsors.debian.net/viewpkg.php?id=218 -- Thomas Viehmann, http://thomas.viehmann.net/ -- To UNSUBSCRIBE, email to [EMAIL PROTECTED] with a subject of "unsubscribe". Trouble? Contact [EMAIL PROTECTED]

Re: May a package assume that builds are performed with root-like rights?

2006-02-23 Thread Thomas Viehmann
ight with BUILDUSER{ID,NAME}. Well, some people think that writing outside the build-dir is a FTBFS bug as well[1]. Kind regards T. 1. http://bugs.debian.org/336014 -- Thomas Viehmann, http://thomas.viehmann.net/ -- To UNSUBSCRIBE, email to [EMAIL PROTECTED] with a subject of "unsub

Re: Problems found by piuparts

2006-02-27 Thread Thomas Viehmann
in questionable overrides. Lintian is a useful tool, but it's results need to be subject to review before filing bugs or doing rejects. Kind regards T. -- Thomas Viehmann, http://thomas.viehmann.net/ -- To UNSUBSCRIBE, email to [EMAIL PROTECTED] with a subject of "unsubscribe". Trouble? Contact [EMAIL PROTECTED]

Re: New packages.debian.org

2006-03-06 Thread Thomas Weber
rver? I guess the original "only runs this service" should be parsed as "there's no additionally ftp server, archive or whatever" on this machine. Reading the whole message on debian-devel-announce seems to suggest this interpretation. Regards Thomas -- To UNS

Re: Bug#355638: ITP: w3c-linkchecker -- check the validity of links in an HTML or XHTML document

2006-03-06 Thread Thomas Weber
W3C Software License > > http://www.w3.org/Consortium/Legal/2002/copyright-software-20021231 > Description : check the validity of links in an HTML or XHTML document Eh, is this the same program that comes as "checklink" with the w3c-markup-validator? Regards

Re: Bug#355638: ITP: w3c-linkchecker -- check the validity of links in an HTML or XHTML document

2006-03-07 Thread Thomas Weber
ut not the validator, I'm looking forward to your package. (No need to CC me, I'm subscribed). Regards Thomas -- To UNSUBSCRIBE, email to [EMAIL PROTECTED] with a subject of "unsubscribe". Trouble? Contact [EMAIL PROTECTED]

Re: conffile purging and maintainer scripts

2006-03-10 Thread Thomas Hood
l have to manually remove conffiles in their maintainer scripts > until at least etch+1 by my reckoning. Is this correct? Again, postrms should not remove files that are currently conffiles. -- Thomas Hood -- To UNSUBSCRIBE, email to [EMAIL PROTECTED] with a subject of "unsubscribe". Trouble? Contact [EMAIL PROTECTED]

Re: NEW queue backing up again -- ftpmasters, any explanation or comment?

2006-03-13 Thread Thomas Viehmann
ally like to fix my RC bugs and sync with upstream at the same time but the latter would involve so-version changes. Kind regards T. -- Thomas Viehmann, http://thomas.viehmann.net/ -- To UNSUBSCRIBE, email to [EMAIL PROTECTED] with a subject of "unsubscribe". Trouble? Contact [EMAIL PROTECTED]

Re: NEW queue backing up again -- ftpmasters, any explanation or comment?

2006-03-13 Thread Thomas Viehmann
source package" because last I heard (some 360 days ago), you didn't need convincing. Assuming that those 40-some packages affected are easier to process, it'd still be nice, though. Kind regards T. -- Thomas Viehmann, http://thomas.viehmann.net/ -- To UNSUBSCRIBE, email to

Re: Upgrading from 1.1 to frozen

1997-05-27 Thread Thomas Koenig
tion README's? That is very probably not enough. People don't read README files unless these are rammed down their throats. -- Thomas Koenig, [EMAIL PROTECTED], [EMAIL PROTECTED] The joy of engineering is to find a straight line on a double logarithmic diagram. -- TO UNSUBSCRIBE FROM

Re: Upgrading from 1.1 to frozen

1997-05-27 Thread Thomas Koenig
er supposed to look? BTW, I'm really sorry for disregarding the installation instructions for hamm. The fact that they are nowhere to be found is no excuse, I agree. -- Thomas Koenig, [EMAIL PROTECTED], [EMAIL PROTECTED] The joy of engineering is to find a straight line on a double log

Re: Upcoming Debian Releases

1997-05-28 Thread Thomas Koenig
>Bo is currently a "release candidate". It will become an official release >as soon as the testing group okays it. What about Bug #10165? Is not being able to boot after an upgrade critical? -- Thomas Koenig, [EMAIL PROTECTED], [EMAIL PROTECTED] The joy of engineering is to

Where should users have their temp files?

1997-05-28 Thread Thomas Koenig
. One possible solution would be to give each user a personal /var/tmp/, mode 700, and have as many functions (mktemp, ...) return a string to there. Loss: a few inodes. Gain: fewer security holes. Comments? -- Thomas Koenig, [EMAIL PROTECTED], [EMAIL PROTECTED] The joy of engineering is to find a

Re: RFC: Policy for arch specs

1997-06-01 Thread Thomas Koenig
Guy Maor wrote: [gcc 2.7.2] >I don't think it does any optimization at all for pentium. Correct. Of course, there's the experimental pgcc (http://www.goof.com/, if anybody wants to look). I'd like to pack this up and stuff it into experimental, if I had a little more time

Re: RFC: Policy for arch specs

1997-06-02 Thread Thomas Koenig
opment at the moment (large patch files, lots of code reorganization) seems to indicate so. -- Thomas Koenig, [EMAIL PROTECTED], [EMAIL PROTECTED] The joy of engineering is to find a straight line on a double logarithmic diagram. -- TO UNSUBSCRIBE FROM THIS MAILING LIST: e-mail the word "

Re: cygwin.dll license (was Re: FreeQt ?)

1997-06-02 Thread Thomas Koenig
ith a non-GPL license (pretty much BSD-like). -- Thomas Koenig, [EMAIL PROTECTED], [EMAIL PROTECTED] The joy of engineering is to find a straight line on a double logarithmic diagram. -- TO UNSUBSCRIBE FROM THIS MAILING LIST: e-mail the word "unsubscribe" to [EMAIL PROTECTED] . Trouble

Re: libc6 policy in unstable

1997-06-09 Thread Thomas Koenig
Guy Maor wrote: >> Must all new programs goint into unstable be linked with libc6? > >Since Debian 2.0 is meant to be a libc6 system, the answer is yes. If this is indeed a requirement, at is now orphaned. -- Thomas Koenig, [EMAIL PROTECTED], [EMAIL PROTECTED] The joy of engineerin

Re: libc6 policy in unstable

1997-06-09 Thread Thomas Koenig
>I didn't meant to imply that libc5 packages will be >rejected. Ok, thanks for clearing that up :-) -- Thomas Koenig, [EMAIL PROTECTED], [EMAIL PROTECTED] The joy of engineering is to find a straight line on a double logarithmic diagram. -- TO UNSUBSCRIBE FROM THIS MAILING LIST:

How do we encourage bug reports?

1997-06-09 Thread Thomas Koenig
Microsoft products don't expect that anybody cares for bugs). What can be done? I'd suggest putting the support addresses (mailing list, web pages) prominently into the installation routines, and possibly even into the MOTD. What else? -- Thomas Koenig, [EMAIL PROTECTED], [EMAIL P

Re: Hamm: Exim + Chos standard?

1997-06-15 Thread Thomas Koenig
Tim Cutts wrote: >Well, for one thing exim (and smail) are a hell of a lot easier to >configure than sendmail. I've found that the m4 configuration of sendmail is fairly easy for an Internet-only machine (I don't run UUCP), but YMMV, of course. -- Thomas Koenig, [EMAIL PR

Re: Status of Debian Policy

1997-06-15 Thread Thomas Koenig
hem. And the changed required would not be >#ifdef debian, but #ifdef SYSV. Much better IMO. The preferred method should be #ifdef HAVE_FUNCTIONNAME (via autoconf). #ifdef sysname is evil. -- Thomas Koenig, [EMAIL PROTECTED], [EMAIL PROTECTED] The joy of engineering is to find a straight l

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