Re: ifupdown maintenance

Am Di, Jul 09, 2024 at 20:03:52 +0200 schrieb Matthias Urlichs: Well, I've been apt-purging ifupdown for almost a decade by now and didn't yet miss any of it. I would never purge ifupdown. I like the nice configuration in one file that you can find no matter if it is an old or new Debian insta

Re: what about Netplan?

Am Di, Jul 16, 2024 at 10:54:47 +0200 schrieb Lukas Märdian: * Netplan PLUS NetworkManager(desktop/laptop) All my desktops have only LAN and are working very well with ifupdown since the beginning. My Laptops are mostly in a LAN either. So NM is onlay needed for the rare cases I’m in a WLAN.

Re: what about Netplan?

Am Di, Jul 16, 2024 at 13:14:44 +0200 schrieb Lukas Märdian: On 16.07.24 11:24, Stephan Seitz wrote: None of my servers are using WLAN. They all work very well with ifupdown including bonding/vlans. This might not be your usecase, but I regularly see setups of "embedded boards", like

Re: bonding and bridging

In debian.devel.user Guus Sliepen <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: > Add the bonding module to /etc/modules, so that bond0 exists when the > network interfaces are brought up. Then you can do something like: > > iface bond0 inet static >address 0.0.0.0 >netmask 0.0.0.0 >slaves et

Re: systemd is here to stay, get over it now

software to replace systemd? Shade and sweet water! Stephan -- | Stephan Seitz E-Mail: s...@fsing.rootsland.net | | Public Keys: http://fsing.rootsland.net/~stse/keys.html | smime.p7s Description: S/MIME cryptographic signature

Migration from cron to cron-daemon?

Hi! I sent the attached message to debian-release, but I was told to ask in debian-devel. So here is the mail. Shade and sweet water! Stephan -- | Stephan Seitz E-Mail: s...@fsing.rootsland.net | | Public Keys: http://fsing.rootsland.net/~stse/keys.html | --- Begin Message

Re: Migration from cron to cron-daemon?

is now the correct expression for cron? cron-daemon|cron? Is this a release critical bug? As a testing user I now have problems using bcron. Shade and sweet water! Stephan -- | Stephan Seitz E-Mail: s...@fsing.rootsland.net | | Public Keys: http://fsing.rootsland.net/~stse

Re: free choice in installer?

generalised statements about "people" by assuming that all people are thinking like you. If you don’t want choices you can stay with Windows. There is no reason to make Linux like Windows. Shade and sweet water! Stephan -- | Stephan Seitz E-Mail: s...@fsing.roo

Re: RFC: OpenRC as Init System for Debian

ystem will solve these problems when you have dependencies outside the box you are booting. The local admin has to check if all timings are right and must adjust them if they are not fitting. Shade and sweet water! Stephan -- | Stephan Seitz E-Mail: s...@fsing.rootslan

Re: RFC: OpenRC as Init System for Debian

what is „better”. Without this definition we won’t get the right solution. I prefer several half-assed options I can choose from instead of having one solution I don’t like and I can’t change. Then I can use Windows again. Shade and sweet water! Stephan -- | Stephan Seitz E-Ma

Re: RFC: OpenRC as Init System for Debian

or sysctl. Shade and sweet water! Stephan -- | Stephan Seitz E-Mail: s...@fsing.rootsland.net | | Public Keys: http://fsing.rootsland.net/~stse/keys.html | smime.p7s Description: S/MIME cryptographic signature

Re: RFC: OpenRC as Init System for Debian

, without any kind of default anywhere else. Yes, because I know that something is wrong when it breaks. This is better than the software is working but not anymore as you expect. Shade and sweet water! Stephan -- | Stephan Seitz E-Mail: s...@fsing.rootsland.net | | Public Keys

Re: RFC: OpenRC as Init System for Debian

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Re: RFC: OpenRC as Init System for Debian

don’t think we can force one of the cases as rule via policy, so the etc-directory should contain a README (e.g. in /etc/udev/rules.d) explaining how to change the default configuration. Shade and sweet water! Stephan -- | Stephan Seitz E-Mail: s...@fsing.rootsland.net | | Public

Re: Moving /tmp to tmpfs makes it useless

with about 10 or 20 GB, much easier to spare than RAM. So I don’t see the advantage of using tmpfs as default, but d-i should offer the option to put /tmp on tmpfs if the admin wishes it. Shade and sweet water! Stephan -- | Stephan Seitz E-Mail: s...@fsing.rootslan

Re: Moving /tmp to tmpfs is fine

on is to create c:\temp. ;-) Shade and sweet water! Stephan -- | Stephan Seitz E-Mail: s...@fsing.rootsland.net | | Public Keys: http://fsing.rootsland.net/~stse/keys.html | signature.asc Description: Digital signature

Re: Moving /tmp to tmpfs makes it useful

used. But for a default installation /tmp belongs to a disk which will be far bigger than the memory. If a user thinks tmpfs will get him an advantage in his setup, then he can switch. Shade and sweet water! Stephan -- | Stephan Seitz E-Mail: s...@fsing.rootsland.net

Re: Idea: mount /tmp to tmpfs depending on free space and RAM

need more. If this is not the meaning of /tmp, then rename it. Diskspace is cheap and easier to spare than my RAM. So, yes, if someone has one 3TB partition which is writeable, then /tmp belongs to disk not to RAM. Shade and sweet water! Stephan -- | Stephan Seitz E-Mail

Re: Idea: mount /tmp to tmpfs depending on free space and RAM

admin wishes to change the setting to keep files in /tmp even after reboot, you can’t use tmpfs, even if you don’t have enough space left. You can only print a warning message but not ignore the local configuration. Shade and sweet water! Stephan -- | Stephan Seitz E-Ma

Re: Idea: mount /tmp to tmpfs depending on free space and RAM

files (and so getting problems with databases or logs), /var/tmp is always a link to /tmp. Shade and sweet water! Stephan -- | Stephan Seitz E-Mail: s...@fsing.rootsland.net | | Public Keys: http://fsing.rootsland.net/~stse/keys.html | smime.p7s Description: S/MIME cry

Re: Idea: mount /tmp to tmpfs depending on free space and RAM

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Re: Idea: mount /tmp to tmpfs depending on free space and RAM

On Wed, Jun 06, 2012 at 11:09:31AM +0200, Goswin von Brederlow wrote: Stephan Seitz writes: Don’t you think this is getting quite ridiculous? Big temporary files belong in your $HOME, but small temporary files in /tmp? Only to switch /tmp from disk to RAM? No, I just don't consider a 4

Re: Idea: mount /tmp to tmpfs depending on free space and RAM

, can set their own TMPDIR. Shade and sweet water! Stephan -- | Stephan Seitz E-Mail: s...@fsing.rootsland.net | | Public Keys: http://fsing.rootsland.net/~stse/keys.html | smime.p7s Description: S/MIME cryptographic signature

Re: Idea: mount /tmp to tmpfs depending on free space and RAM

h LVM without problems as well. Both things are nothing a standard desktop user can do by its own, but the standard desktop user will certainly have more disk space than RAM, so I’m glad this tmpfs for tmp crap is off by default. Shade and sweet water! Stephan -- | Stephan Seitz

Re: Summary: Moving /tmp to tmpfs makes it useless

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Re: Summary: Moving /tmp to tmpfs makes it useless

On Sun, Jun 10, 2012 at 07:12:11PM +0200, Tollef Fog Heen wrote: ]] Stephan Seitz Will Wheezy support SSDs out of the box with all trimming functions, even if your SSD partition is using LUKS and LVM? Depends on what you mean by out of the box. I suspect you still need to turn on discard

Re: Is it me or virtualbox memory management crap?

On Mon, Jun 11, 2012 at 02:28:59AM +0800, Thomas Goirand wrote: On 06/10/2012 11:55 PM, Stephan Seitz wrote: Well, if I start Virtual Box on my notebook (4 GB RAM), the system uses the swap partition. Frankly, I don't know what the fuck virtualbox is doing with its memory management, but

Re: Summary: Moving /tmp to tmpfs makes it useless

s a security warning and „man mount” says, this option is not sufficiently tested yet. Stephan -- | Stephan Seitz E-Mail: s...@fsing.rootsland.net | | Public Keys: http://fsing.rootsland.net/~stse/keys.html | smime.p7s Description: S/MIME cryptographic signature

Re: Idea: mount /tmp to tmpfs depending on free space and RAM

k is cleaned according to the setting of TMPTIME. You need tmpreaper to clean /tmp on systems which rarely reboot. And then you have the same problem with tmpfs. Stephan -- | Stephan Seitz E-Mail: s...@fsing.rootsland.net | | Public Keys: http://fsing.rootsland.net/~sts

Re: Idea: mount /tmp to tmpfs depending on free space and RAM

d temporary files to use /tmpfs instead in Debian. But by default we should not give up disk based /tmp for a default installation. Stephan -- | Stephan Seitz E-Mail: s...@fsing.rootsland.net | | Public Keys: http://fsing.rootsland.net/~stse/keys.html | smime.p7s Description:

Re: Idea: mount /tmp to tmpfs depending on free space and RAM

temporary directory they belong today. Besides if you set TMPDIR to /home/tmp, you don’t need /tmp at all, no matter if tmpfs or not. If you want a system tmp create one and set TMPDIR for these system services. Stephan -- | Stephan Seitz E-Mail: s...@fsing.rootsland.net

Re: Summary: Moving /tmp to tmpfs makes it useless

roblem. And /var/tmp exists as well for everyone writeable. Stephan -- | Stephan Seitz E-Mail: s...@fsing.rootsland.net | | Public Keys: http://fsing.rootsland.net/~stse/keys.html | smime.p7s Description: S/MIME cryptographic signature

Re: Summary: Moving /tmp to tmpfs makes it useless

But this discussion is not about /var, it's about /tmp. Yes, it is, but if tmpfs is seen as an advantage because /tmp can’t block the system anymore and prevent DOS attacks (among others), this doesn’t sound so good anymore if you can as easily block the system by filling /var/tmp or /var/l

Re: Summary: Moving /tmp to tmpfs makes it useless

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SSDs and discard (was: Summary: Moving /tmp to tmpfs makes it useless)

s mean you shouldn’t use discard in fstab, but you need the option in crypttab and lvm.conf (or TRIM requests are filtered)? Or don’t you need any discard options in any layer to get fstrim to work? Stephan -- | Stephan Seitz E-Mail: s...@fsing.rootsland.net | | Public

Re: Summary: Moving /tmp to tmpfs makes it useless

On Sat, Jun 23, 2012 at 11:43:03PM +0200, Wouter Verhelst wrote: On Thu, Jun 21, 2012 at 03:46:16PM +0200, Stephan Seitz wrote: So most of your Debian systems have several users working at the same time on the same system? Okay, then you have a different user base. "webserver".

Re: Future of update-rc.d in wheezy+1

running at the end of the boot process), but for now I still don’t see any reason to change. Stephan -- | Stephan Seitz E-Mail: s...@fsing.rootsland.net | | Public Keys: http://fsing.rootsland.net/~stse/keys.html | smime.p7s Description: S/MIME cryptographic signature

Re: can we (fully) fix/integrate NetworkManager (preferred) or release-goal its decommissioning

if it works for you, you can ignore NM. Stephan -- | Stephan Seitz E-Mail: s...@fsing.rootsland.net | | Public Keys: http://fsing.rootsland.net/~stse/keys.html | smime.p7s Description: S/MIME cryptographic signature

Re: can we (fully) fix/integrate NetworkManager (preferred) or release-goal its decommissioning

a WAN connection running. And if it has, it doesn’t mean you can reach the keyserver. So you can use something like „fping -q ”, if the keyserver is pingeable. Any other check is not really usefull. Stephan -- | Stephan Seitz E-Mail: s...@fsing.rootsland.net | | Public Keys: h

Re: can we (fully) fix/integrate NetworkManager (preferred) or release-goal its decommissioning

0 and do a „pon umts”. No need for NM and Co. Stephan -- | Stephan Seitz E-Mail: s...@fsing.rootsland.net | | Public Keys: http://fsing.rootsland.net/~stse/keys.html | smime.p7s Description: S/MIME cryptographic signature

Re: can we (fully) fix/integrate NetworkManager (preferred) or release-goal its decommissioning

On Mon, Aug 20, 2012 at 02:19:19PM +0200, Bjørn Mork wrote: Stephan Seitz writes: On Mon, Aug 20, 2012 at 01:08:53PM +0200, Bjørn Mork wrote: Never mind wireless lan where you've got a well defined kernel API. Try to configure a modern 3G/LTE modem using ifupdown, and you will see th

Re: can we (fully) release-goal decommissioning of trolls

one has to use it. And I would wish those people would go away to Windows. There they can play with shiny new software which doesn’t really work. Stephan -- | Stephan Seitz E-Mail: s...@fsing.rootsland.net | | Public Keys: http://fsing.rootsland.net/~stse/keys.html |

Re: systemd .service file conversion

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Re: / vs. /usr vs. fsck(8)

ms. I am no interested in changing this good tradition. So please don’t break other people’s setup. Shade and sweet water! Stephan -- | Stephan Seitz E-Mail: s...@fsing.rootsland.net | | PGP Public Keys: http://fsing.rootsland.net/~stse/pgp.html | signature.asc Descri

Re: Re: / vs. /usr vs. fsck(8)

/ was ext2 for a long time (good enough for small partitions), now it has ext3. So it can always be repaired with a rescue DVD. So I am not really interested in making the important boot/repair partition bigger than necessary. Shade and sweet water! Stephan -- | Stephan Seitz

Re: / vs. /usr vs. fsck(8)

On Thu, Oct 13, 2011 at 04:20:33PM +0200, Marco d'Itri wrote: On Oct 13, Stephan Seitz wrote: - I think that the probability that defective hard drive sectors will hit a small partition is less. So your „repair partition” will probably boot at least in emergency mode with more tools

Re: Red Hat is moving from / to /usr/

sometimes even not supported on the platform. Shade and sweet water! Stephan -- | Stephan Seitz E-Mail: s...@fsing.rootsland.net | | PGP Public Keys: http://fsing.rootsland.net/~stse/pgp.html | signature.asc Description: Digital signature

Re: Red Hat is moving from / to /usr/

On Wed, Dec 07, 2011 at 01:11:56PM +0100, Marco d'Itri wrote: On Dec 07, Stephan Seitz wrote: But as was seen in the last discussion, not everyone *has* an initramfs, because it is not needed in many cases or sometimes even not supported on the platform. And as was seen, most of these s

Re: Red Hat is moving from / to /usr/

On Wed, Dec 07, 2011 at 01:44:28PM +0100, Marco d'Itri wrote: On Dec 07, Stephan Seitz wrote: Yes, but by the admin, not by Debian, and the admin may not be interested in adding a new layer of possible failures, because it works. And other admins may be interested in the important fea

Re: Red Hat is moving from / to /usr/

forcing the user to have /usr on the /-partition. Shade and sweet water! Stephan -- | Stephan Seitz E-Mail: s...@fsing.rootsland.net | | PGP Public Keys: http://fsing.rootsland.net/~stse/pgp.html | signature.asc Description: Digital signature

Re: from / to /usr/: a summary

GNOME" read "system services which GNOME depends on", presumably. Such services should not be started in the early boot stage. And when the system switches to runlevel 2, /usr is mounted. So, this is no excuse. Shade and sweet water! Stephan -- | Stephan Seitz

Re: from / to /usr/: a summary

release to another without reinstalling everything. This is one of the main reasons why I use Debian. If you wish to through this great advantage away because of crappy software, fine. But be prepared that you will lose people. Shade and sweet water! Stephan -- | Stephan Seitz

Re: Bug#652275: Guided partitioning should not offer separate /usr, /var, and /tmp partitions; leave that to manual partitioning

ent partitions under /var, e.g. for squid, news, databases Shade and sweet water! Stephan -- | Stephan Seitz E-Mail: s...@fsing.rootsland.net | | PGP Public Keys: http://fsing.rootsland.net/~stse/pgp.html | signature.asc Description: Digital signature

Re: from / to /usr/: a summary

once. Shade and sweet water! Stephan -- | Stephan Seitz E-Mail: s...@fsing.rootsland.net | | PGP Public Keys: http://fsing.rootsland.net/~stse/pgp.html | signature.asc Description: Digital signature

Re: from / to /usr/: a summary

rootkit module could be loaded). Most of these admins have /usr separated from /. Should all these admins start repartitioning their systems or fiddle with initramfs? We can do this with new systems, yes, but not with the old ones. Shade and sweet water! Stephan -- | Stephan Seitz

Re: from / to /usr/: a summary

r systems. Stephan -- | Stephan Seitz E-Mail: s...@fsing.rootsland.net | | PGP Public Keys: http://fsing.rootsland.net/~stse/pgp.html | signature.asc Description: Digital signature

Re: from / to /usr/: a summary

to /usr. Shade and sweet water! Stephan -- | Stephan Seitz E-Mail: s...@fsing.rootsland.net | | PGP Public Keys: http://fsing.rootsland.net/~stse/pgp.html | signature.asc Description: Digital signature

Re: upstart: please update to latest upstream version

think performance issues are a problem. Shade and sweet water! Stephan -- | Stephan Seitz E-Mail: s...@fsing.rootsland.net | | PGP Public Keys: http://fsing.rootsland.net/~stse/pgp.html | smime.p7s Description: S/MIME cryptographic signature

Re: upstart: please update to latest upstream version

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Re: upstart: please update to latest upstream version

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Re: A few observations about systemd

-platform distribution. Shade and sweet water! Stephan -- | Stephan Seitz E-Mail: s...@fsing.rootsland.net | | PGP Public Keys: http://fsing.rootsland.net/~stse/pgp.html | smime.p7s Description: S/MIME cryptographic signature

Re: A few observations about systemd

On Thu, Mar 15, 2012 at 02:10:29PM +0100, Marco d'Itri wrote: On Mar 15, Stephan Seitz wrote: Okay, I am not a DD, This pretty much explains why you are not qualified to partecipate to this discussion. You do not seem to be interested in having users, do you? How far will you come wi

Re: ANNOUNCEMENT: Intel/AMD x86 CPU microcode update system in non-free

to include XEN 4.2 in Wheezy? Stephan -- | Stephan Seitz E-Mail: s...@fsing.rootsland.net | | Public Keys: http://fsing.rootsland.net/~stse/keys.html | smime.p7s Description: S/MIME cryptographic signature

Re: Bug#727708: tech-ctte: Decide which init system to default to in Debian.

others. There are no features in systemd that I would dump the well known sysvinit. Shade and sweet water! Stephan -- | Stephan Seitz E-Mail: s...@fsing.rootsland.net | | Public Keys: http://fsing.rootsland.net/~stse/keys.html | smime.p7s Description: S/MIME cryptographic

Re: GnuTLS in Debian

answer from a judge in the end. Or do we need to ask different lawyers in different countries? Is the answer in one country enough? This may affect mirror operators. Merry christmas! Stephan -- | Stephan Seitz E-Mail: s...@fsing.rootsland.net | | Public Keys: http

Re: Bug#727708: Fsck SystemD and its developers and its users. GR to override this please.

cessary it takes less than 10 seconds to reconfigure the sound device in the application. So why should I use pulseaudio? Shade and sweet water! Stephan -- | Stephan Seitz E-Mail: s...@fsing.rootsland.net | | Public Keys: http://fsing.rootsland.net/~stse/keys.html | sig

Re: Bug#727708: Fsck SystemD and its developers and its users. GR to override this please.

many setups to find bugs. Users (at least users from Debian Stable) are not beta testers. Shade and sweet water! Stephan -- | Stephan Seitz E-Mail: s...@fsing.rootsland.net | | Public Keys: http://fsing.rootsland.net/~stse/keys.html | signature.asc Description: Digital signature

Re: FFmpeg vs. libav packaging

And how is this problem solved? The library which most software can use or the library which has a maintainer? I’m using the Multimedia repository anyway because I want MythTV which is only available there. So I have ffmpeg. Shade and sweet water! Stephan -- | Stephan

Re: pulseaudio related problems....

tivated. /etc/init.d/ is always working with auto completion. Shade and sweet water! Stephan -- | Stephan Seitz E-Mail: s...@fsing.rootsland.net | | Public Keys: http://fsing.rootsland.net/~stse/keys.html | signature.asc Description: Digital signature

Re: Bits from the Security Team

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Re: Bits from the Security Team

I've forwarded a patch upstream. I did a „setcap cap_sys_ptrace+eip /usr/lib/nagios/plugins/check_procs”, but a normal user can’t still check for running programs of another user. What did I wrong? Shade and sweet water! Stephan -- | Stephan Seitz E-Mail: s...@fsing.roo

Re: Bits from the Security Team

ong. [stse@osgiliath]: file /usr/lib/nagios/plugins/check_procs /usr/lib/nagios/plugins/check_procs: ELF 64-bit LSB shared object… If I do a „chmod u+s check_procs” it works. But I think capabilities are a safer solution than s-bit. Shade and sweet water! Stephan -- | Stephan Seitz

Re: Debian default desktop environment

n 6 with Gnome 2. I don’t know if I will ever update this system. Gnome 3 is not a solution, and I’m not interested in teaching XFCE. Shade and sweet water! Stephan -- | Stephan Seitz E-Mail: s...@fsing.rootsland.net | | Public Keys: http://fsing.rootsland.net/~stse/keys.html |

Re: Debian default desktop environment

On Fri, Apr 04, 2014 at 04:13:27PM +0200, Josselin Mouette wrote: Le vendredi 04 avril 2014 à 15:25 +0200, Stephan Seitz a écrit : and modern hardware. This is no longer a requirement in jessie, at least on x86 where llvmpipe is now accepted as a GL engine. Ah, thank you. The default

Re: systemd-fsck?

switched to dependency-based boot. Which did cause We still have init scripts without LSB headers in our environment. No one is planning to fix them. There is even new third party software shipping init scripts without LSB headers. Shade and sweet water! Stephan -- | Stephan Seitz

Re: network-manager as default? No!

cable networks. The only thing that I miss from ifupdown (and I configured bonds, bridges and vlans) is a good IPv6 support. I can’t separately activate or deactivate IPv4 or IPv6 parts of an interface. Shade and sweet water! Stephan -- | Stephan Seitz E-Mail: s...@fsin

Re: network-manager as default? No!

and leave the rest alone in the default installation. Shade and sweet water! Stephan -- | Stephan Seitz E-Mail: s...@fsing.rootsland.net | | PGP Public Keys: http://fsing.rootsland.net/~stse/pgp.html | signature.asc Description: Digital signature

Re: network-manager as default? No!

the base installation and handling my network without me choosing to do so. Shade and sweet water! Stephan -- | Stephan Seitz E-Mail: s...@fsing.rootsland.net | | PGP Public Keys: http://fsing.rootsland.net/~stse/pgp.html | signature.asc Description: Digital signature

Re: network-manager as default? No!

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Re: network-manager as default? No!

looked like this I could live with the fact not being able to (de)activate one part of a dual stack interface. Shade and sweet water! Stephan -- | Stephan Seitz E-Mail: s...@fsing.rootsland.net | | PGP Public Keys: http://fsing.rootsland.net/~stse/pgp.html | signature.asc

Re: some suggestions towards a Debian .desktop policy

. And I had already people in my company who asked me why they didn’t find a certain application in their menu. Well, it was filtered because other people thought they shouldn’t see this application in the environment the users were using. Shade and sweet water! Stephan -- | Stephan Seitz

Re: some suggestions towards a Debian .desktop policy [Was: Warm up discussion about desktop files]

, why can’t I find it in the menu?). I don’t know what XFCE does now, but I use mostly the shell to start applications, because I don’t want to look through to menu only to find out that someone thought I shouldn’t see the application. Happy Eastern! Stephan -- | Stephan Seitz

Re: ifupdown 0.7~alpha4 in experimental

address types (say one fixed address, so you know how to reach the system, and one dynamic address (privacy extension) for outgoing traffic)? If not yet, is this feature planned? Shade and sweet water! Stephan -- | Stephan Seitz E-Mail: s...@fsing.rootsland.net | | PGP Public

Re: ifupdown 0.7~alpha4 in experimental

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Re: ifupdown 0.7~alpha4 in experimental

addresses have to be activated later. Any hints are welcome. Maybe this is the wrong list and the discussion should be moved to debian-user? If yes feel free. I’m reading both lists. Shade and sweet water! Stephan -- | Stephan Seitz E-Mail: s...@fsing.rootsland.net

Re: A few observations about systemd

tween sysklogd, syslog-ng and rsyslog. But I don’t think it is worth to replace sysvinit. Shade and sweet water! Stephan -- | Stephan Seitz E-Mail: s...@fsing.rootsland.net | | PGP Public Keys: http://fsing.rootsland.net/~stse/pgp.html | signature.asc Description: Di

Re: A few observations about systemd

On Thu, Jul 21, 2011 at 11:37:48PM +0200, Josselin Mouette wrote: Le jeudi 21 juillet 2011 à 20:01 +0200, Stephan Seitz a écrit : So, since you don’t need it, other people don’t need it either? No, since I don’t need it, I don’t want to be forced to use it. You know, there are some who just

Re: A few observations about systemd

On Fri, Jul 22, 2011 at 10:46:54AM +0200, Josselin Mouette wrote: Le vendredi 22 juillet 2011 à 09:58 +0200, Stephan Seitz a écrit : >So, since you don’t need it, other people don’t need it either? No, since I don’t need it, I don’t want to be forced to use it. So you prefer to force your c

Re: A few observations about systemd

course, if we decide that systemd has to run on kfreebsd as well before we change the default init, then the migration will last longer. Shade and sweet water! Stephan -- | Stephan Seitz E-Mail: s...@fsing.rootsland.net | | PGP Public Keys: http://fsing.rootsland.net/~stse

Re: A few observations about systemd

even a configuration file. Shade and sweet water! Stephan -- | Stephan Seitz E-Mail: s...@fsing.rootsland.net | | PGP Public Keys: http://fsing.rootsland.net/~stse/pgp.html | signature.asc Description: Digital signature

Re: A few observations about systemd

# < 3) # -r enables logging from remote machines (deprecated, only used in # compat mode < 3) # -x disables DNS lookups on messages received with -r # -c compatibility mode # See rsyslogd(8) for more details RSYSLOGD_OPTIONS=”-c5” Shade and sweet water! Stephan -- | Stephan

Re: A few observations about systemd

s run this service. But why are the unit files not configuration files to begin with like init scripts? In my eyes they all belong in /etc. Shade and sweet water! Stephan -- | Stephan Seitz E-Mail: s...@fsing.rootsland.net | | PGP Public Keys: http://fsing.rootsland.net/

Re: A few observations about systemd

t I still prefer the good old „exit 0” version. And talking with other people, this seems to be far easier to remember if they want to revert the change. Shade and sweet water! Stephan -- | Stephan Seitz E-Mail: s...@fsing.rootsland.net | | PGP Public Keys: http://fsin

Re: init system policy

the files should be moved backed to /etc. In the second case changed defaults should be documented in the changelog or readme. Shade and sweet water! Stephan -- | Stephan Seitz E-Mail: s...@fsing.rootsland.net | | Public Keys: http://fsing.rootsland.net/~stse/keys.html

Re: Summary:Re: Bug#762194: Proposal for upgrades to jessie

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Re: Summary:Re: Bug#762194: Proposal for upgrades to jessie

On Fri, Nov 28, 2014 at 04:00:42PM +0100, Thorsten Glaser wrote: On Fri, 28 Nov 2014, Stephan Seitz wrote: Of course not. syslog-ng was not replaced by rsyslog when Debian changed the default syslog. Note that syslog-ng was not the default, but sysklogd (which was) wasn’t replaced either

Re: DE features dependent on Systemd

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Re: Bug#775436: ITP: xlennart -- An XBill fork but with Lennart and SystenD instead of Bill and Wingdows

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Re: Proposal: enable stateless persistant network interface names

here. SLES is using some strange interface names like em1 or p1p2, but I hate it. I prefer my eth0 name. Shade and sweet water! Stephan -- | Stephan Seitz E-Mail: s...@fsing.rootsland.net | | Public Keys: http://fsing.rootsland.net/~stse/keys.html | smime.p7s Description: S

Re: Proposal: enable stateless persistant network interface names

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