Re: speech question.

2024-11-16 Thread Samuel Thibault
Mike Coulombe, le sam. 16 nov. 2024 16:45:31 -0800, a ecrit: > When I used the net installer to install bookworm, it saw my > internal card, but the latest testing image didn't so I had to use an USB > speaker it did see. Ah, then espeakup is kept configured to use that card. Change ALSA_CARD in /

Re: Directory structure suggestion for configuration in /etc

2024-12-19 Thread Samuel Thibault
Samuel Thibault, le jeu. 19 déc. 2024 10:26:12 +0100, a ecrit: > Gioele Barabucci, le jeu. 19 déc. 2024 10:22:02 +0100, a ecrit: > > On 19/12/24 10:19, Samuel Thibault wrote: > > > Gioele Barabucci, le jeu. 19 déc. 2024 10:15:47 +0100, a ecrit: > > > > * A

Re: Directory structure suggestion for configuration in /etc

2024-12-19 Thread Samuel Thibault
Ansgar 🙀, le jeu. 19 déc. 2024 16:21:03 +0100, a ecrit: > On Thu, 2024-12-19 at 11:16 +0100, Samuel Thibault wrote: > > Also, /etc would thus be full of empty /etc/$proj directories? I don't > > see the point of not just putting the example files there? Why making it > &

Re: Directory structure suggestion for configuration in /etc

2024-12-19 Thread Samuel Thibault
Gioele Barabucci, le jeu. 19 déc. 2024 10:15:47 +0100, a ecrit: > * Admin can override the standard configuration via /etc/$proj/foo.conf [...] > Upstream projects are moving to this style. I hope that one day Debian > packages will stop shipping files under /etc. Having pre-filled configuration f

Re: Directory structure suggestion for configuration in /etc

2024-12-19 Thread Samuel Thibault
Gioele Barabucci, le jeu. 19 déc. 2024 10:22:02 +0100, a ecrit: > On 19/12/24 10:19, Samuel Thibault wrote: > > Gioele Barabucci, le jeu. 19 déc. 2024 10:15:47 +0100, a ecrit: > > > * Admin can override the standard configuration via /etc/$proj/foo.conf > > [...] > >

Re: Directory structure suggestion for configuration in /etc

2024-12-20 Thread Samuel Thibault
Josh Triplett, le ven. 20 déc. 2024 02:05:30 -0800, a ecrit: > On Fri, Dec 20, 2024 at 09:55:17AM +0100, Samuel Thibault wrote: > > Josh Triplett, le jeu. 19 déc. 2024 19:05:56 -0800, a ecrit: > > > Samuel Thibault wrote: > > > > Ansgar 🙀, le jeu. 19 déc

Re: norust profile, and setting it by default on alpha, hppa, m68k, sh4, x32 port buildds

2024-12-20 Thread Samuel Thibault
Hello, Julian Andres Klode, le ven. 20 déc. 2024 12:21:37 +0100, a ecrit: > # setting the profile > > I then propose we inject the > > DEB_BUILD_PROFILES=norust > > in the buildds for the ports architectures that do not have > a rustc. wanna-build would also need to be told to drop build-

Re: Directory structure suggestion for configuration in /etc

2024-12-20 Thread Samuel Thibault
Josh Triplett, le jeu. 19 déc. 2024 19:05:56 -0800, a ecrit: > Samuel Thibault wrote: > > Ansgar 🙀, le jeu. 19 déc. 2024 16:21:03 +0100, a ecrit: > > > And it is actively harmful as if one edits the example configuration to > > > have a useful configuration as dpkg will

Re: Directory structure suggestion for configuration in /etc

2024-12-20 Thread Samuel Thibault
Henrik Ahlgren, le ven. 20 déc. 2024 11:32:37 +0200, a ecrit: > On Fri, 2024-12-20 at 09:55 +0100, Samuel Thibault wrote: > > But isn't it what we already have? If I don't modify the example in /etc > > and only add files to .d/, I'm getting upgrades without ques

Re: Directory structure suggestion for configuration in /etc

2024-12-20 Thread Samuel Thibault
Richard Lewis, le ven. 20 déc. 2024 09:42:11 +, a ecrit: > but perhaps what is missing is a way to see what changed on upgrade > (you'd want to save the clean version from the _previous_ version of a > package to be able to do that after the upgrade)? You mean ucf? Samuel

Re: Directory structure suggestion for configuration in /etc

2024-12-20 Thread Samuel Thibault
Henrik Ahlgren, le ven. 20 déc. 2024 13:47:24 +0200, a ecrit: > On Fri, 2024-12-20 at 12:01 +0100, Ansgar 🙀 wrote: > > With empty-/etc, you would (ideally) only have explicit local > > configuration in /etc which makes it much, much easier to see what the > > local admin changed to diagnose problem

Re: Directory structure suggestion for configuration in /etc

2024-12-20 Thread Samuel Thibault
Ansgar 🙀, le ven. 20 déc. 2024 13:07:36 +0100, a ecrit: > On Fri, 2024-12-20 at 13:00 +0100, Samuel Thibault wrote: > > Ansgar 🙀, le ven. 20 déc. 2024 12:01:24 +0100, a ecrit: > > > On Fri, 2024-12-20 at 11:50 +0100, Samuel Thibault wrote: > > > > What I comple

Re: Directory structure suggestion for configuration in /etc

2024-12-20 Thread Samuel Thibault
Ansgar 🙀, le ven. 20 déc. 2024 12:01:24 +0100, a ecrit: > On Fri, 2024-12-20 at 11:50 +0100, Samuel Thibault wrote: > > What I completely fail to understand is why people would want to not > > see any file in /etc. What harm does it *actually* cause? > > It makes it hard to

Re: Is HURD's lack of HOST_NAME_MAX and PATH_MAX a good architectural approach

2025-01-20 Thread Samuel Thibault
Sam Hartman, le lun. 20 janv. 2025 17:12:05 -0700, a ecrit: > The pam 1.5.3 hurd compatibility patch simply defines PATH_MAX to 4096. > I believe that previous krb5 patches have done something similar. > I think this approach is quite common to how people approach HURD > compatibility. Yes, and t

Re: Is HURD's lack of HOST_NAME_MAX and PATH_MAX a good architectural approach

2025-01-21 Thread Samuel Thibault
Julien Plissonneau Duquène, le mar. 21 janv. 2025 11:24:31 +0100, a ecrit: > Le 2025-01-20 21:21, Sam Hartman a écrit : > > One of the issues is HOST_NAME_MAX in modules/pam_xauth/pam_xauth.c. > > It doesn't make much sense to allow arbitrarily long host names. I'm more > reserved for path names a

Re: DEP-14: Default branch name 'debian/latest' objections?

2025-01-23 Thread Samuel Thibault
Michael Tokarev, le ven. 24 janv. 2025 09:16:50 +0300, a ecrit: > 3. "latest" is a misnomer (unlike "main" or "master"). For example, I often > use > "experimental" branch which is more recent than "master", yet the main > development is happening in "master". Yes, that's why I wouldn't use

Re: Is HURD's lack of HOST_NAME_MAX and PATH_MAX a good architectural approach

2025-01-20 Thread Samuel Thibault
Hello, Sam Hartman, le lun. 20 janv. 2025 13:21:32 -0700, a ecrit: > I will admit I was kind of disappointed that rather than working to make > my package handle arbitrary hostnames, the patch simply introduced an > arbitrary constant for HURD. It should not have, indeed. > * Having different li

Re: Is HURD's lack of HOST_NAME_MAX and PATH_MAX a good architectural approach

2025-01-20 Thread Samuel Thibault
Sam Hartman, le lun. 20 janv. 2025 15:48:00 -0700, a ecrit: > My restatement is that it's possible to create paths where the full path > name is longer than PATH_MAX. > > I guess a better way to look at this would be that paths beyond PATH_MAX > may break. And unfortunately, code that just uses P

Re: GCC-15 mass bug filing.

2025-02-18 Thread Samuel Thibault
Antonio Terceiro, le mar. 18 févr. 2025 10:00:18 -0300, a ecrit: > On Tue, Feb 18, 2025 at 09:06:53AM +0900, Charles Plessy wrote: > > Give the scale if build failure (hundreds of failures for the Debian Med > > packaging team for instance), > I don't think that "OMG my packages have bugs and I ne

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