Re: How to close a Ubuntu bug?

2011-02-14 Thread Paul Tagliamonte
On Mon, Feb 14, 2011 at 4:46 PM, Scott Kitterman wrote: > "Erik Schanze (Debian)" wrote: > >>Hi, >> >>one of my packages (antiword) has an open bug in Ubuntu >>https://bugs.launchpad.net/ubuntu/+source/antiword/+bug/237918 >>that was fixed for a while in Debian >>http://bugs.debian.org/cgi-bin/bu

Re: MATE 1.8 has now fully arrived in Debian

2014-07-03 Thread Paul Tagliamonte
h enough headache :) Can we get back to work now? Thanks, Paul -- .''`. Paul Tagliamonte | Proud Debian Developer : :' : 4096R / 8F04 9AD8 2C92 066C 7352 D28A 7B58 5B30 807C 2A87 `. `'` http://people.debian.org/~paultag `- http://people.debian.org/~paultag/conduct-statement.txt signature.asc Description: Digital signature

Re: Sources licensed under PHP License and not being PHP are not distributable

2014-07-07 Thread Paul Tagliamonte
You may indicate that your software works in | conjunction with PHP by saying "Foo for PHP" instead of calling | it "PHP Foo" or "phpfoo" \ > Thomas -- .''`. Paul Tagliamonte | Proud Debian Developer : :' : 4096R / 8F04 9AD8 2C9

Re: Proposal to avoid executable naming conflicts (was: Bug#753704: ITP: amap -- Next-generation scanning tool for pentesters)

2014-07-08 Thread Paul Tagliamonte
top of my head: git/git, chromium/chromium, docker/docker, node/node Those are all pretty big packages. It'd be really annoying for a script to misuse a binary, which was expecting node to be, well, node, or git to be git. Cheers, Paul -- .''`. Paul Tagliamonte |

Re: Packaging libjs-jquery >= 1.10, and python-xstatic-* packages

2014-07-09 Thread Paul Tagliamonte
rand (zigo) Cheers, Paul -- .''`. Paul Tagliamonte | Proud Debian Developer : :' : 4096R / 8F04 9AD8 2C92 066C 7352 D28A 7B58 5B30 807C 2A87 `. `'` http://people.debian.org/~paultag `- http://people.debian.org/~paultag/conduct-statement.txt signature.asc Description: Digital signature

Re: Bug#754513: ITP: libressl -- SSL library, forked from OpenSSL

2014-07-15 Thread Paul Tagliamonte
was discarded. I didn't see this yet in the thread, so: https://www.agwa.name/blog/post/libressls_prng_is_unsafe_on_linux http://arstechnica.com/security/2014/07/only-a-few-days-old-openssl-fork-libressl-is-declared-unsafe-for-linux/ http://lwn.net/Articles/605509/ (Pick your news source) Flame-

Re: Python 3.4

2014-08-15 Thread Paul Tagliamonte
to ensure we're all Python 3 compatable, but that's something distinct from changing /usr/bin/python to point at /usr/bin/python3. Cheers, Paul -- .''`. Paul Tagliamonte | Proud Debian Developer : :' : 4096R / 8F04 9AD8 2C92 066C 7352 D28A 7B58 5B30 807C 2A87 `

Re: Enlightenment DR19 - Maintainers?!

2014-10-07 Thread Paul Tagliamonte
sible links >1. https://gist.github.com/tmartinx/86adc8f33b12f163028b#file-nineteen-2-sh >2. > https://launchpad.net/~niko2040/+archive/ubuntu/e19?field.series_filter=trusty Cheers, Paul -- .''`. Paul Tagliamonte | Proud Debian Developer : :' : 4096R / 8F04 9AD8 2C92 0

Re: Doxygen and embedded jquery problem, how to solve?

2014-10-29 Thread Paul Tagliamonte
mmon with multiple versions of jQuery would reduce maintainer burden and avoid filling the archive with tons of binaries if someone has a spare few hours. For jessie+1 I guess. -- .''`. Paul Tagliamonte | Proud Debian Developer : :' : 4096R / 8F04 9AD8 2C92 066C 7352 D28A 7

Re: Let's abandon debian-devel.

2014-11-10 Thread Paul Tagliamonte
evel. Until that changes, I think I'm with plessy. > Cheers, > > -- > Charles Plessy > Debian Med packaging team, > http://www.debian.org/devel/debian-med > Tsurumi, Kanagawa, Japan Cheers, Paul -- .''`. Paul Tagliamonte | Proud Debian De

Re: Packaging on GitHub ?

2012-05-27 Thread Paul Tagliamonte
On Sun, May 27, 2012 at 2:42 AM, olivier sallou wrote: > > Le 27 mai 2012 03:12, "Jon Bernard" a écrit : > > >> >> * Charles Plessy wrote: >> > Hello everybody, >> > >> > for one of the packages maintained by the pkg-eucalyptus team >> > (euca2ools), the >> > upstream source moved to GitHub, and

Re: why hijacking is bad (and salvaging is good) Re: Orphaning php-codesniffer, then take it over by the PHP PEAR team

2012-06-01 Thread Paul Tagliamonte
On Fri, Jun 1, 2012 at 4:22 PM, Holger Levsen wrote: > Hi, > > On Freitag, 1. Juni 2012, Steve Langasek wrote: > [...] >> This is very different from what some people mean when they use the word >> hijack.  In part, I think we have a terminological problem here; I don't >> know if it's a matter of

Re: Debian stickers

2012-07-22 Thread Paul Tagliamonte
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Re: Bug#682496: ITP: melange -- Melange Widget System for the Cream Desktop Environment

2012-07-23 Thread Paul Tagliamonte
x27;s upstream, I'm guessing it'll get removed and sunk. Let's kill off a namespace thing before we get there. > > Cheers, > > Thomas Goirand (zigo) > > > -- > To UNSUBSCRIBE, email to debian-devel-requ...@lists.debian.org > with a subject of

Re: Bug#682496: ITP: melange -- Melange Widget System for the Cream Desktop Environment

2012-07-23 Thread Paul Tagliamonte
On Tue, Jul 24, 2012 at 09:50:21AM +0800, Thomas Goirand wrote: > On Tue Jul 24 2012 02:02:50 AM CST, Paul Tagliamonte > wrote: > > > This seems an aweful lot like the nodejs / node situation. > > It's very different. Here the clash is at the > package name le

Re: Bug#682496: ITP: melange -- Melange Widget System for the Cream Desktop Environment

2012-07-24 Thread Paul Tagliamonte
-requ...@lists.debian.org > with a subject of "unsubscribe". Trouble? Contact listmas...@lists.debian.org > Archive: http://lists.debian.org/500e4080.40...@debian.org > Fondly, Paul -- .''`. Paul Tagliamonte : :' : Proud Debian Developer `. `'` 4096R / 8F04 9AD8 2C92 066C 7352 D28A 7B58 5B30 807C 2A87 `- http://people.debian.org/~paultag signature.asc Description: Digital signature

Re: Bug#682496: ITP: melange -- Melange Widget System for the Cream Desktop Environment

2012-07-24 Thread Paul Tagliamonte
from the archive (see launchpad[1]). It's deprecated upstream, and won't exist in Debian :) Fondly, Paul [1]: https://bugs.launchpad.net/ubuntu/+source/melange/+bug/1017609 -- .''`. Paul Tagliamonte : :' : Proud Debian Developer `. `'` 4096R / 8F04 9AD8 2C92 066C

Re: Proposal: Making Debian compiler agnostic

2012-08-28 Thread Paul Tagliamonte
o, no, but it's present. Shouldn't take too much work to track this down. This was something I was planning to do once the general feel was that this was a good idea. > > Cheers > > -- > perl -E '$_=q;$/= @{[@_]};and s;\S+;;eg;say~~reverse' Cheers, Paul --

Re: Proposal: Making Debian compiler agnostic

2012-08-28 Thread Paul Tagliamonte
27;m guessing) wouldn't be receptive to such changes, and I don't think it's right to try to enforce this on them. I'm open to your opinions on this :) > > Ben. > > -- > Ben Hutchings > It is a miracle that curiosity survives formal education.

Re: Proposal: Making Debian compiler agnostic

2012-08-28 Thread Paul Tagliamonte
On Tue, Aug 28, 2012 at 01:43:24PM -0400, Michael Gilbert wrote: > On Tue, Aug 28, 2012 at 12:53 PM, Paul Tagliamonte wrote: > >> If a package fails to build with an alternate compiler (that is, it > >> correctly *uses* the compiler, but the compiler reports a fatal

Re: Proposal: Making Debian compiler agnostic

2012-08-28 Thread Paul Tagliamonte
On Tue, Aug 28, 2012 at 10:27:18PM +0300, Serge wrote: > 2012/8/28 Paul Tagliamonte wrote: > > >> Just curious, do you have a list of such packages? > > > > No, I've not built up such a list. I've seen it enough for me to recall > > this edge-case. Most

Re: Proposal: Making Debian compiler agnostic

2012-08-29 Thread Paul Tagliamonte
gt; -- > To UNSUBSCRIBE, email to debian-devel-requ...@lists.debian.org > with a subject of "unsubscribe". Trouble? Contact listmas...@lists.debian.org > Archive: > http://lists.debian.org/caktje6etghodm7ye-scuv_vs1bgx165eipqqbulff8psjzm...@mail.gmail.com > Cheers, Pau

Re: Towards d-i wheezy beta 3

2012-09-10 Thread Paul Tagliamonte
On Mon, Sep 10, 2012 at 12:07:46AM +0200, Cyril Brulebois wrote: > Hello, > > tiny wrap-up for beta 2: the release happened one week after the > prospective date. Some tiny delays on various fronts added up and > explain that, but the overall results don't seem too bad to me. > > That's why I'm goi

Debian BSP, Columbus Ohio - Ohio LinuxFest

2012-09-16 Thread Paul Tagliamonte
Cheers, Paul -- .''`. Paul Tagliamonte : :' : Proud Debian Developer `. `'` 4096R / 8F04 9AD8 2C92 066C 7352 D28A 7B58 5B30 807C 2A87 `- http://people.debian.org/~paultag signature.asc Description: Digital signature

Re: Bug#688046: ITP: out -- utility for producing UTF-8 output to standard streams and terminal.

2012-09-18 Thread Paul Tagliamonte
fty to see what breaks with all sorts of UTF jamed down it's stdin. That being said, I don't know anything about this. > > -- > > > Neil Williams > = > http://www.linux.codehelp.co.uk/ > -- .''`. Paul Tagliamonte : :' : Proud Debian Developer `. `'` 4096R / 8F04 9AD8 2C92 066C 7352 D28A 7B58 5B30 807C 2A87 `- http://people.debian.org/~paultag signature.asc Description: Digital signature

Re: Changes to Debian Maintainer upload permissions

2012-09-22 Thread Paul Tagliamonte
show they've made good decisions when uploading in the past, why not. It's easy to revoke the commit bit. My two cents :) -- .''`. Paul Tagliamonte : :' : Proud Debian Developer `. `'` 4096R / 8F04 9AD8 2C92 066C 7352 D28A 7B58 5B30 807C 2A87 `- http://people.debian.org/~paultag signature.asc Description: Digital signature

Re: Developer repositories for Debian

2013-05-14 Thread Paul Tagliamonte
es -- I mean, we're using this tool to push stuff, it seems sane to keep it all in one place, anyway. Once the format is nailed down, I'll add this to dput-ng. Right. Cheers, Paul -- .''`. Paul Tagliamonte : :' : Proud Debian Developer `. `'` 4096R / 8F04 9AD8 2C92 066C 7352 D28A 7B58 5B30 807C 2A87 `- http://people.debian.org/~paultag signature.asc Description: Digital signature

Re: Automated piuparts when entering the archive (Was: Debian development and release: always releasable (essay))

2013-05-20 Thread Paul Tagliamonte
m.debian.org/gitweb/?p=collab-maint/dputng.git -- .''`. Paul Tagliamonte : :' : Proud Debian Developer `. `'` 4096R / 8F04 9AD8 2C92 066C 7352 D28A 7B58 5B30 807C 2A87 `- http://people.debian.org/~paultag signature.asc Description: Digital signature

Re: systemd^wfoo on linux, bar on bsd,so what (Re: /bin/sh

2013-05-21 Thread Paul Tagliamonte
On Wed, May 22, 2013 at 01:16:29AM +0100, Dmitrijs Ledkovs wrote: > I have signed Canonical's and Python Software Foundation's contributor > agreements. > But I have no intention to assign copyright to FSF at the moment, > given it's past well documented bad practices at doing things for the > sake

Re: optimizing PNGs

2013-05-28 Thread Paul Tagliamonte
ing source data. While treating .png files as prefered forms of modification is insane, there are cases where crushing this will render them even worse. I've been debating writing dh_pngcrush / dh_jpegoptim. I think it's a good idea. Just don't expect graphic designers to want the

Re: [clang] Report bugs on packages failing to build with clang

2013-05-29 Thread Paul Tagliamonte
> The severity would be minor. > Of course, I would do that only when the issue is upstream [2]. > > Any comments ? I am, of course, biased. I do, however think this would be a good move for Debian on the whole, and will help with such an effort. Cheers, Paul -- .''`. P

Re: [clang] Report bugs on packages failing to build with clang

2013-05-30 Thread Paul Tagliamonte
errors are more strict readings of the spec, and relying on gcc's quirks isn't a great idea. If code can be fixed, it'd a good idea, since gcc may (and has, in the past), changed non-standard behavior to be more correct. minor severity sounds good to me :) Cheers, Paul -- .'

Re: Why not to let all DDs to execute "gb"-command

2013-06-06 Thread Paul Tagliamonte
vices. Let's see how the GSoC project turns out; I'm willing to bet even a proof of concept would be useful to services that interdepend so closely. I mean, not to play the "UNIX" card, but one thing well, you know? Let's just aid in the code talking to each other bette

Re: Reporting 1.2K crashes

2013-06-27 Thread Paul Tagliamonte
hen it ran, it segfaulted, which is a bug, yes. However, it's not security, and to see the bug tagged 'security' was troubling - what oversight do you have to prevent the security team to get flooded with such bug reports (this bug is not a security risk.) Thanks! Paul -- .'&

Re: DM Upload

2013-06-27 Thread Paul Tagliamonte
that `dcut(1)` uses to rm / cancel uploads), so, it's only natural that it's usable with dcut :) Currently, only dput-ng supports this, you can invoke `dcut` from dput-ng in-place from the git repo. Some examples from the man page: $ dcut dm --uid "Paul Tagliamonte" --allow g

Re: DM Upload

2013-06-27 Thread Paul Tagliamonte
On Fri, Jun 28, 2013 at 10:31:47AM +0800, Paul Wise wrote: > On Fri, Jun 28, 2013 at 9:39 AM, Paul Tagliamonte wrote: > > > Some examples from the man page: > > > > $ dcut dm --uid "Paul Tagliamonte" --allow glibc > >$ dcut dm --uid 0x0DEFACED --all

Re: DM Upload

2013-06-27 Thread Paul Tagliamonte
A in this post-control world. Cheers, Paul -- .''`. Paul Tagliamonte : :' : Proud Debian Developer `. `'` 4096R / 8F04 9AD8 2C92 066C 7352 D28A 7B58 5B30 807C 2A87 `- http://people.debian.org/~paultag signature.asc Description: Digital signature

Re: Berkeley DB 6.0 license change to AGPLv3

2013-07-02 Thread Paul Tagliamonte
Again, why do you plan on removing free software from main due to a change in license? Cheers, Paul [1]: http://1.bp.blogspot.com/-GfEnd4xeEJs/UOxBvCCdgGI/BSU/PgL41SlEQ98/s1600/huh-what.gif -- .''`. Paul Tagliamonte : :' : Proud Debian Developer `. `'` 409

Re: Berkeley DB 6.0 license change to AGPLv3

2013-07-02 Thread Paul Tagliamonte
On Tue, Jul 02, 2013 at 09:15:15AM -0400, Paul Tagliamonte wrote: > Again, why do you plan on removing free software from main due to a > change in license? As algernon points out, it makes slightly more sense when you remember that the AGPLv3 is not compatable with the GPLv2 I'm st

Re: AGPLv3 Compliance and Debian Users

2013-07-11 Thread Paul Tagliamonte
iction - if you're using my Sure, but that doesn't make it DFSG free (hint: it's likely not)[1][2] [1]: The Dissident test [2]: The Desert Island test -- .''`. Paul Tagliamonte : :' : Proud Debian Developer `. `'` 4096R / 8F04 9AD8 2C92 066C 7352 D28A

Re: DFSG claims BSD, not BSD 2/3-clause, is DFSG-free

2013-07-14 Thread Paul Tagliamonte
Perhaps you'd be interested in 20130105150458.ga6...@vasudev.homelinux.net Cheers, Paul On Sun, Jul 14, 2013 at 2:30 PM, Richard Hartmann wrote: > Dear all, > > during my ongoing NM process, I have been asked to review several > Debian documents and propose any changes I would like to see. > >

Re: DFSG claims BSD, not BSD 2/3-clause, is DFSG-free

2013-07-14 Thread Paul Tagliamonte
ility might have tricked folks who aren't carefully reading into thinking it's not free. Either way, there's a more general point about DFSG 10, which has been brought up a few times (usually by folks who assume the DFSG is the letter of the law, whereas they're actually guidel

Re: Survey answers part 3: systemd is not portable and what this means for our ports

2013-07-14 Thread Paul Tagliamonte
hrow away someone willing to do great work within Debian? > but just because a GSoC student is working on OpenRC in Debian > doesn't make it any more appealing or sensible in my eyes. It gives us an option. [...] Cheers, Paul -- .''`. Paul Tagliamonte : :'

Re: Survey answers part 3: systemd is not portable and what this means for our ports

2013-07-20 Thread Paul Tagliamonte
(On my phone, I hate this ui, sorry for the CC Russ) On Jul 19, 2013 5:30 PM, "Russ Allbery" wrote: > > David Kalnischkies writes: > > > Of course, both analysis are obviously flawed as this popcon data can't > > really be interpreted that way as its an apple to banana comparison and > > way too

Innovation in Debian

2013-07-22 Thread Paul Tagliamonte
ose with breaking "NMUs" (PPA Owner Uploads? POU?) of packages to help with integration, but I fear there might be project backlash over that. So, what do *you* think? How can we break more of Debian for fun and profit? Cheers, Paul -- .''`. Paul Tagliamonte : :&#x

Re: Innovation in Debian

2013-07-22 Thread Paul Tagliamonte
n a little corner, there's a good chance that this helps come up with a *real* transition plan that prevents breakage on real machines. Either way, semantics, IMHO, Paul -- .''`. Paul Tagliamonte : :' : Proud Debian Developer `. `'` 4096R / 8F04 9AD8 2C92 066C 7352 D28A 7B58 5B30 807C 2A87 `- http://people.debian.org/~paultag signature.asc Description: Digital signature

Re: Innovation in Debian

2013-07-22 Thread Paul Tagliamonte
gt; DDs by putting in a reasonable amount of effort to think about safer > solutions. I do agree, but I also think that allowing DDs to break things in a small, contained section (e.g. PPAMAIN), we can help avoid bigger breakage by testing out the plan in the real world, with real-world conditi

Re: We need a global decision about R data in binary format, and stick to it.

2013-08-04 Thread Paul Tagliamonte
to process NEW anymore). This must mean many people who care deeply about this topic see this as an issue. Cheers, Paul -- .''`. Paul Tagliamonte : :' : Proud Debian Developer `. `'` 4096R / 8F04 9AD8 2C92 066C 7352 D28A 7B58 5B30 807C 2A87 `- http://people.d

Re: We need a global decision about R data in binary format, and stick to it.

2013-08-05 Thread Paul Tagliamonte
erials to discuss R's binary files ? I would be happy to document what is and isn't OK with these files. I'll have to seek a bit of consensus from the rest of the ftp-team, but I think treating them as if they were any other data format should be fine. > > Ian. Thank

Re: Less dinstall FTW?

2013-08-29 Thread Paul Tagliamonte
e time it takes to compile something and be able > to test it is one way to increase your productivity. This is true > whether you're compiling a simple C program or a complete distribution CD. > > -- > see shy jo Fondly, Paul -- .''`. Paul Tagliamonte : :&

Re: Less dinstall FTW?

2013-08-29 Thread Paul Tagliamonte
t this will be the usual behavior. I could see a *huge* load on this pool for this reason. -- .''`. Paul Tagliamonte : :' : Proud Debian Developer `. `'` 4096R / 8F04 9AD8 2C92 066C 7352 D28A 7B58 5B30 807C 2A87 `- http://people.debian.org/~paultag signature.asc Description: Digital signature

Re: Nitpicking in the NEW queue.

2013-09-02 Thread Paul Tagliamonte
BSCRIBE, email to debian-devel-requ...@lists.debian.org > with a subject of "unsubscribe". Trouble? Contact listmas...@lists.debian.org > Archive: http://lists.debian.org/5224c106.50...@debian.org Cheers, Paul -- .''`. Paul Tagliamonte : :' : Proud Debian Developer `. `'` 4096R / 8F04 9AD8 2C92 066C 7352 D28A 7B58 5B30 807C 2A87 `- http://people.debian.org/~paultag signature.asc Description: Digital signature

Re: Looking for ideas for merging a micro package...

2013-09-03 Thread Paul Tagliamonte
IBE, email to debian-devel-requ...@lists.debian.org > with a subject of "unsubscribe". Trouble? Contact listmas...@lists.debian.org > Archive: http://lists.debian.org/5225d6a7.3000...@free.fr > -- .''`. Paul Tagliamonte : :' : Proud Debian Developer `. `'` 4096R / 8F04 9AD8 2C92 066C 7352 D28A 7B58 5B30 807C 2A87 `- http://people.debian.org/~paultag signature.asc Description: Digital signature

Re: Nitpicking in the NEW queue.

2013-09-03 Thread Paul Tagliamonte
that it is very > important to have at least a clear separation between the blocking issues and > the personal comments. In the case of pv-grub-menu, I am left with the > questions "What else shall I do that I have not tried yet ? How many weeks or > monthes shall I try before g

Re: [PATCH] netplug - Allow to specify custom script file via param '-s'

2013-09-15 Thread Paul Tagliamonte
the upload. However, doing this is frowned upon without the coordination of the current maintainer - so that's a pretty needed first step! Thank you so much for your work! Let's get your changes in the archive! Paul -- .''`. Paul Tagliamonte : :' : Proud Debian Dev

Re: packaging Postgres binary dump files

2013-09-20 Thread Paul Tagliamonte
modification in the source. Cheers, Paul -- .''`. Paul Tagliamonte : :' : Proud Debian Developer `. `'` 4096R / 8F04 9AD8 2C92 066C 7352 D28A 7B58 5B30 807C 2A87 `- http://people.debian.org/~paultag signature.asc Description: Digital signature

Re: packaging Postgres binary dump files

2013-09-20 Thread Paul Tagliamonte
On Fri, Sep 20, 2013 at 05:04:50PM +0200, Daniel Pocock wrote: > On 20/09/13 15:49, Paul Tagliamonte wrote: > > On Fri, Sep 20, 2013 at 02:47:39PM +0100, Jonathan Dowland wrote: > >> On Fri, Sep 20, 2013 at 12:20:38PM +0200, Paul Wise wrote: > >>> It is also impossi

Re: Decision on R datasets

2013-09-21 Thread Paul Tagliamonte
feel the need to use such a irrational tone? Please don't upload stuff we wouldn't accept into the archive onto debian machines. If it's not fit for the archive, I don't understand why you think it's OK to distribute this on Debian machines. C'mon. Really.

Re: jenkins vs. debile [was: Re: Bits from the Release]

2013-09-27 Thread Paul Tagliamonte
ile's for. They're not competing. I would never use debile to build nightly debs, for instance. I'd just jenkins. At best, I'd use jenkins and dput to a debile build setup. > > Best, > Michael Thanks for your interest, mt! Paul -- .''`. Paul Tagliamonte

Re: petitioning Crockford to change his license

2013-10-07 Thread Paul Tagliamonte
change.org asking him to free the world from this evil license[2]. He just makes fun of such efforts. All the damn time. It's not worth feeding the troll. Cheers, Paul -- .''`. Paul Tagliamonte : :' : Proud Debian Developer `. `'` 4096R / 8F04 9AD8 2C92 066C

Re: petitioning Crockford to change his license

2013-10-07 Thread Paul Tagliamonte
On Mon, Oct 07, 2013 at 09:32:15PM +0200, Thomas Koch wrote: > On Monday, October 07, 2013 08:06:47 PM Paul Tagliamonte wrote: > > > I met another piece of Software (JSHint [sic!]) > > > > They did a rewrite that is no longer subject to his terms. > > I'

Re: systemd effectively mandatory now due to GNOME

2013-10-24 Thread Paul Tagliamonte
de this asbestos suit, Paul -- .''`. Paul Tagliamonte : :' : Proud Debian Developer `. `'` 4096R / 8F04 9AD8 2C92 066C 7352 D28A 7B58 5B30 807C 2A87 `- http://people.debian.org/~paultag signature.asc Description: Digital signature

GNOME upstream portability [was: Re: Proposal: switch default desktop to xfce]

2013-10-24 Thread Paul Tagliamonte
mode > disappears. What's the status of GNOME on BSDs? How do they get around this sytemd stuff, if it's not ported? Do they just use chunks of systemd like Ubuntu? I know GNOME is fairly sane, I can't imagine they'd break *BSD like that. Cheers, T -- .''

Re: let's split the systemd binary package

2013-10-25 Thread Paul Tagliamonte
erwise a major package is using another major package in an unsupported configuration (or at least in a way that the maintainer doesn't wish to support) Since the project (on the whole) is fairly divided, I don't think we should trivialize this to "actively developed" vs "cru

Re: Proposal: let’s have a GR about the init system

2013-10-25 Thread Paul Tagliamonte
On Fri, Oct 25, 2013 at 02:03:38PM +, Thorsten Glaser wrote: > Christoph Anton Mitterer scientia.net> writes: > Let’s GR it. Let's tech committee it :) Cheers, Paul -- .''`. Paul Tagliamonte : :' : Proud Debian Developer `. `'` 4096R / 8F04 9AD8 2

Re: Proposal: let’s have a GR about the init system

2013-10-25 Thread Paul Tagliamonte
On Fri, Oct 25, 2013 at 02:27:44PM +, Thorsten Glaser wrote: > Paul Tagliamonte debian.org> writes: > > > > Let’s GR it. > > > > Let's tech committee it :) > > I’d ask them to solve the situation of gnome/xfce depending on systemd, > or someth

Re: let's split the systemd binary package

2013-10-25 Thread Paul Tagliamonte
o this will result in lots of fragmentation, since the process in which a daemon is brought up will depend on what DE you have installed (???) > should go away since it’s also Poetteringware and thus not better), This is FUD and ad hominem. Cheers, Paul -- .''`. Paul Tagliamon

Re: Proposal: let’s have a GR about the init system

2013-10-25 Thread Paul Tagliamonte
don't trust the Debian tech committee to make good judgement calls for Debian, we've got bigger problems. This is seriously disturbing to read. Cheers, Paul -- .''`. Paul Tagliamonte : :' : Proud Debian Developer `. `'` 4096R / 8F04 9AD8 2C92 066C 7352 D28A 7

Re: Proposal: let’s have a GR about the init system

2013-10-25 Thread Paul Tagliamonte
On Fri, Oct 25, 2013 at 03:02:55PM +, Thorsten Glaser wrote: > Paul Tagliamonte debian.org> writes: > > >Decide any technical matter where Developers' jurisdictions overlap. > > This is more or less a political question (and one of trust and one to >

tech-ctte: Decide which init system to default to in Debian.

2013-10-25 Thread Paul Tagliamonte
In addition, I find that developers care quite a bit (in both directions), and dependencies / conflicts are only going to become more common and serious for our users. Thank you! Paul -- .''`. Paul Tagliamonte : :' : Proud Debian Developer `. `'` 4096R / 8F04 9AD8 2C92

Re: tech-ctte: Decide which init system to default to in Debian.

2013-10-25 Thread Paul Tagliamonte
On Fri, Oct 25, 2013 at 04:40:15PM +, Thorsten Glaser wrote: > Paul Tagliamonte dixit: > > >please vote on and decide on the default init system for Debian. > > It’s not (just) about the _default_ but also on whether we will > force this default init system onto *all*

Re: tech-ctte: Decide which init system to default to in Debian.

2013-10-25 Thread Paul Tagliamonte
On Fri, Oct 25, 2013 at 04:53:52PM +, Thorsten Glaser wrote: > Paul Tagliamonte dixit: > > >It may be, but it's not for the project. Let's let this bug be, and > >have the tech cttie decide on *the* init system for Debian. If you want > > No, this must reall

Re: tech-ctte: Decide which init system to default to in Debian.

2013-10-25 Thread Paul Tagliamonte
l-formed and discussed points, rather then the nonsense we have in these threads. Cheers, Paul -- .''`. Paul Tagliamonte : :' : Proud Debian Developer `. `'` 4096R / 8F04 9AD8 2C92 066C 7352 D28A 7B58 5B30 807C 2A87 `- http://people.debian.org/~paultag signature.asc Description: Digital signature

Re: Proposal: let’s have a GR about the init system

2013-10-25 Thread Paul Tagliamonte
s, Paul -- .''`. Paul Tagliamonte : :' : Proud Debian Developer `. `'` 4096R / 8F04 9AD8 2C92 066C 7352 D28A 7B58 5B30 807C 2A87 `- http://people.debian.org/~paultag signature.asc Description: Digital signature

Re: tech-ctte: Decide which init system to default to in Debian.

2013-10-25 Thread Paul Tagliamonte
round* the lack of systemd, or patching software to use systemd) I believe this is within the ctte's jurisdiction, given 6.1 section 2. Thanks for your consideration, Paul -- .''`. Paul Tagliamonte : :' : Proud Debian Developer `. `'` 4096R / 8F04 9AD8

Re: supporting more than one... (Re: let's split the systemd binary package

2013-10-25 Thread Paul Tagliamonte
On Fri, Oct 25, 2013 at 08:40:48PM +0200, Holger Levsen wrote: > Hi, Yo, Holger! > On Freitag, 25. Oktober 2013, Paul Tagliamonte wrote: > > Supporting two different init systems is something I don't think > > *anyone* wants to get into. > > are you sure *so* man

Re: tech-ctte: Decide which init system to default to in Debian.

2013-10-25 Thread Paul Tagliamonte
st super tired of this thread. It keeps coming up time after time after time after time. I don't care if they decide something that I don't agree with -- at all -- I'd just prefer that we had *a* decision, backed with facts, that has a Debian-ish argument behind it. Much love,

Re: Please assume good faith (was Re: systemd effectively mandatory now due to GNOME)

2013-10-27 Thread Paul Tagliamonte
Can this be taken off-list? I don't care either way, I'd still take his points even if he wasn't. On Sun, Oct 27, 2013 at 9:50 AM, Thomas Goirand wrote: > On 10/26/2013 09:17 PM, Olav Vitters wrote: > > On Sat, Oct 26, 2013 at 12:02:00AM +0100, Kevin Chadwick wrote: > >>> I'm fed up with repeat

Re: Proposal: let’s have a GR about the init system

2013-10-28 Thread Paul Tagliamonte
On Mon, Oct 28, 2013 at 07:01:05PM +, Kevin Chadwick wrote: > Could this problem be explained. As long as they are in separate > directories and called explicitly does that matter? Please see the nodejs vs node thread(s). Cheers, Paul -- .''`. Paul Tagliamonte : :&

Re: Bug#727708: tech-ctte: Decide which init system to default to in Debian.

2013-10-28 Thread Paul Tagliamonte
a lack of respect to your peers on this list. Change your tone. -- .''`. Paul Tagliamonte : :' : Proud Debian Developer `. `'` 4096R / 8F04 9AD8 2C92 066C 7352 D28A 7B58 5B30 807C 2A87 `- http://people.debian.org/~paultag signature.asc Description: Digital signature

Re: Bug#727708: tech-ctte: Decide which init system to default to in Debian.

2013-10-28 Thread Paul Tagliamonte
it tiresome to include it when you have done it > before. Perhaps a sign you've said all you need to. Cheers, Paul -- .''`. Paul Tagliamonte : :' : Proud Debian Developer `. `'` 4096R / 8F04 9AD8 2C92 066C 7352 D28A 7B58 5B30 807C 2A87 `- http://people.debian.org/~paultag signature.asc Description: Digital signature

Re: Why IceApe?

2013-11-02 Thread Paul Tagliamonte
his is a Mozilla mark http://www.mozilla.org/en-US/foundation/licensing/ even says: Our trademarks include, among others, the names Mozilla®, mozilla.org®, Firefox®, Thunderbird®, Bugzilla™, Camino®, Sunbird®, SeaMonkey®, and XUL™ [..] Cheers, Paul -- .''`. Paul Tagliamonte : :'

Re: Bug#727708: tech-ctte: Decide which init system to default to in Debian.

2013-11-05 Thread Paul Tagliamonte
progress is not possible" -- Frank Zappa I believe this is a purely technical issue, and one that is near 100% invisible to the user. Let us not delay the decision or implementation. I'm left with more questions than answers after reading this mail :) Cheers, Paul -- .''`. Paul Tagliamonte : :' : Proud Debian Developer `. `'` 4096R / 8F04 9AD8 2C92 066C 7352 D28A 7B58 5B30 807C 2A87 `- http://people.debian.org/~paultag signature.asc Description: Digital signature

Re: Bug#727708: tech-ctte: Decide which init system to default to in Debian.

2013-11-06 Thread Paul Tagliamonte
On Wed, Nov 06, 2013 at 03:14:14PM +0100, Thorsten Glaser wrote: [snip] Some good points made all around, more for the ctte to consider. As Jonathan says, it's in ctte's hands now, let's agree to disagree and let the poor souls on the commitee do their job Cheers, Paul -

Re: Bug#727708: tech-ctte: Decide which init system to default to in Debian.

2013-11-06 Thread Paul Tagliamonte
On Wed, Nov 06, 2013 at 06:53:40PM +0100, Florian Weimer wrote: [...] Again, good points, but ones we've discussed. Perhaps we should end this thread? Fondly, Paul -- .''`. Paul Tagliamonte : :' : Proud Debian Developer `. `'` 4096R / 8F04 9AD8 2C92 066C 7352

Bug#651363: ITP: python-github2 -- Library to expose all the version 2 Github API over Python

2011-12-07 Thread Paul Tagliamonte
Package: wnpp Severity: wishlist Owner: Paul Tagliamonte * Package name: python-github2 Version : 0.5.2 Upstream Author : Ask Solem * URL : http://packages.python.org/github2/ * License : Expat Programming Lang: Python Description : Library to expose

Bug#654920: ITP: python-icalendar -- parser/generator of iCalendar files for use with Python.

2012-01-06 Thread Paul Tagliamonte
Package: wnpp Severity: wishlist Owner: Paul Tagliamonte * Package name: python-icalendar Version : 2.2 Upstream Author : Rok Garbas * URL : http://pypi.python.org/pypi/icalendar * License : GPL Programming Lang: Python Description : parser/generator

Re: (seemingly) declinging bug report numbers

2012-10-11 Thread Paul Tagliamonte
On Thu, Oct 11, 2012 at 09:45:58PM +0200, Simon Josefsson wrote: > Marco Nenciarini writes: > > > Il giorno gio, 11/10/2012 alle 02.46 +0200, Christoph Anton Mitterer ha > > scritto: > >> > >> On the other hand, some worries are there that this could imply some > >> decline in Debian itself. > >

Re: Poll (was: Popularity of bzr-builddeb and dh-make)

2012-10-16 Thread Paul Tagliamonte
.debian.org/bzr/ > > Adrian > > -- > To UNSUBSCRIBE, email to debian-devel-requ...@lists.debian.org > with a subject of "unsubscribe". Trouble? Contact listmas...@lists.debian.org > Archive: > http://lists.debian.org/bc4bd80d-1d13-4c4f-bf61-060e5d651...@physik

Re: Discarding uploaded binary packages

2012-10-17 Thread Paul Tagliamonte
> > Christoph > > > -- > To UNSUBSCRIBE, email to debian-devel-requ...@lists.debian.org > with a subject of "unsubscribe". Trouble? Contact listmas...@lists.debian.org > Archive: http://lists.debian.org/871ugxgddd@mitoraj.siccegge.de > -- .'&#

Re: Popularity of bzr-builddeb and dh-make

2012-10-17 Thread Paul Tagliamonte
on. > > > Can I have my own LP, please? > > https://dev.launchpad.net/Running should help you with that. > > With the danger of being sued if you put up the result onto the public > interwebs. Could you please expand on that? Logo / trademark reasons or license issue

Re: Bug#691624: ITP: dput-ng -- next generation Debian package upload tool

2012-10-28 Thread Paul Tagliamonte
. It maintains the same interface and is backwards compatible. The change between dput and dupload was big enough where they were totally different ways of solving the problem. We support old arguments, and will make it a point to make sure old setups are still compatable. Cheers, Paul --

Re: MBF: packages with autopkgtest tests but no XS-Testsuite

2012-11-04 Thread Paul Tagliamonte
XS-Testsuite: autopkgtest > > It seems that #PACKAGE# lacks such a header. > Can you please add it? > > Thanks for considering, > Cheers. > > > [1]: http://packages.qa.debian.org/a/autopkgtest.html > [2]: > http://anonscm.debian.org/gitweb/?p=autopkgtest/au

Re: RFC on MBF (non-freeness of "The Software shall be used for Good, not Evil")

2012-11-08 Thread Paul Tagliamonte
her try? DPL, you're pretty > eloquent and your voice may carry some extra weight? ;) > > > Cheers > > [0] http://lists.debian.org/debian-legal/2010/03/msg00064.html > [1] http://fedoraproject.org/wiki/Licensing:Main#Bad_Licenses > Cheers, Paul -- .'&#

Re: Wheezy-ignore for good-not-evil bugs

2012-11-16 Thread Paul Tagliamonte
On Fri, Nov 16, 2012 at 10:58 AM, Jakub Wilk wrote: > * Neil McGovern , 2012-11-16, 15:46: > > These bugs aren't gonna get fixed in time - tagging ignore appropriately. >> > > Excellent. Now Mr Crockford can say that his license is good enough for > Debian. I don't think our dear friend Mr. C

Re: "Do not CC me"

2012-11-25 Thread Paul Tagliamonte
ugh to guess that CC and list email is > > the same and will not duplicate it > > > -- > To UNSUBSCRIBE, email to debian-devel-requ...@lists.debian.org > with a subject of "unsubscribe". Trouble? Contact listmas...@lists.debian.org > Archive: http://lists.debian.org/1353

Bug#694881: ITP: gcc-python-plugin -- plugin to run Python from inside gcc

2012-12-01 Thread Paul Tagliamonte
Package: wnpp Severity: wishlist Owner: Paul Tagliamonte * Package name: gcc-python-plugin Version : 0.11 Upstream Author : "David Malcolm" * URL : https://fedorahosted.org/gcc-python-plugin/ * License : GPLv3 (or later) Programming Lang:

dput-ng/1.1 in unstable

2012-12-04 Thread Paul Tagliamonte
an.org/debian-devel-announce/2012/09/msg8.html [5] http://git.debian.org/?p=collab-maint/dputng.git -- .''`. Paul Tagliamonte : :' : Proud Debian Developer `. `'` 4096R / 8F04 9AD8 2C92 066C 7352 D28A 7B58 5B30 807C 2A87 `- http://people.debian.org/~paultag signature.asc Description: Digital signature

Re: dput-ng/1.1 in unstable

2012-12-04 Thread Paul Tagliamonte
pport for stable in a branch, given we're likely releasing soonish anyway. If there's an overwhelming demand, I'll see about trying to fix master / unstable for a straight backport. > > Thanks a lot, > Michael > Advice on this is super welcome, I'm not up to date on m

Re: dput-ng/1.1 in unstable

2012-12-04 Thread Paul Tagliamonte
heezy. > > Thanks a lot, > Michael > Cheers, Paul -- .''`. Paul Tagliamonte : :' : Proud Debian Developer `. `'` 4096R / 8F04 9AD8 2C92 066C 7352 D28A 7B58 5B30 807C 2A87 `- http://people.debian.org/~paultag signature.asc Description: Digital signature

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