Re: arch all package's missing dependency on i386 prevents testing migration

2016-03-30 Thread Neil Williams
On Wed, 30 Mar 2016 10:42:53 +0200 Ansgar Burchardt wrote: > Neil Williams writes: > > On Tue, 29 Mar 2016 21:25:26 -0700 > > Afif Elghraoui wrote: > >> The package in question, circlator, depends on two > >> architecture-dependent packages that can only

Re: Overall bitrot, package reviews and fast(er) unmaintained package removals

2016-04-06 Thread Neil Williams
rocess *is* to forcibly orphan the package?) The individual metrics need to be aggregated to a score but fine tuning that score algorithm is more work than most people want to do on packages which are already uninteresting. What has happened in the past is that a BSP close to a release has had a

Re: Overall bitrot, package reviews and fast(er) unmaintained package removals

2016-04-06 Thread Neil Williams
oolchain changes. Clearer records exist at ci.debian.net. > I get the impression that more upstream packages have built-in tests > that can be run as part of dpkg-buildpackage (e.g Python, Perl, Ruby, > Java and Go) but maybe that's just because I've been working in those > environments recently. Not all unit test suites can run during the build. -- Neil Williams = http://www.linux.codehelp.co.uk/ pgpUEiH363o2e.pgp Description: OpenPGP digital signature

Re: Overall bitrot, package reviews and fast(er) unmaintained package removals

2016-04-06 Thread Neil Williams
Also, packages may provide services to a lot more users than just the ones with it and popcon installed. There are many the packages which depend on a webserver of some kind - a single install can have many thousands of users. popcon data can be handy for humans who bother to go after the package-s

Re: Overall bitrot, package reviews and fast(er) unmaintained package removals

2016-04-08 Thread Neil Williams
On Fri, 8 Apr 2016 00:02:08 + (UTC) Felipe Sateler wrote: > On Wed, 06 Apr 2016 17:16:18 +0100, Neil Williams wrote: > > > On Wed, 6 Apr 2016 15:27:48 + (UTC) > > Felipe Sateler wrote: > > > >> On Wed, 06 Apr 2016 00:18:10 +0200, Ondřej Surý

Re: Opt out style recommends

2016-04-08 Thread Neil Williams
ady shows you which packages are to be brought in as Recommends on every invocation and unless you use the -y option you get the option to quit. You can already choose to quit and call apt with the --no-install-recommends option for this specific invocation of apt. -- Neil Williams = ht

Re: Opt out style recommends

2016-04-08 Thread Neil Williams
on of apt. > This involves a lot of keypresses, and I'm incredibly lazy ;) > I was just wondering if apt could be more interactive, or if it is a > design choice not to ask too many questions. If you want interactive, use aptitude or synaptic. -- Neil Williams = http://www.linux.codehelp.co.uk/ pgpZ08fn8x7ew.pgp Description: OpenPGP digital signature

Re: Bug#823465: dpkg: Won't run at all on i586 Pentium MMX due to illegal instruction

2016-05-05 Thread Neil Williams
lease notes somewhere? > I'm sure they will be there in the stretch release notes. Adding the bug back to CC. -- Neil Williams = http://www.linux.codehelp.co.uk/ pgpDAjcwennXO.pgp Description: OpenPGP digital signature

Re: Bug#823465: dpkg: Won't run at all on i586 Pentium MMX due to illegal instruction

2016-05-08 Thread Neil Williams
able. That's why the advice is to move this box to stable - ask for backports of any packages which need updates from testing. You have four years to decide whether to replace this hardware or continue running jessie without support. -- Neil Williams = http://www.linux.codehelp.co.uk/ pgp3rfDRI8DYQ.pgp Description: OpenPGP digital signature

Re: Bug#823465: dpkg: Won't run at all on i586 Pentium MMX due to illegal instruction

2016-05-08 Thread Neil Williams
On Sun, 08 May 2016 07:18:40 -0400 The Wanderer wrote: > On 2016-05-08 at 03:45, Neil Williams wrote: > > > On Sun, 8 May 2016 00:51:57 +0200 Pierre Ynard > > wrote: > > Even if running unstable, I would certainly expect that something > which is known to break ce

Re: third-party packages adding apt sources

2016-05-19 Thread Neil Williams
quot; or "wise" to add backports and install packages from backports. Packages which may have a history that has caused such reactions need to be brought in line. > This is a 100% larger conversation, and it's not about a hacky deb, > it's about how our plac

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