ir release ready in time. If they don't
> manage to do so it is not our fault anymore at least.
s/release date/freeze date/ and I agree.
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>
> It seemed obvious to me.
Why don't you (where you = Raphael Hertzog) demonstrate that
CUT/rolling brings the benefit you predict, just like AJ did with
testing and Andreas did with volatile, before asking
developers/maintainers/Debian as a whole to implement the change?
t the only one who will vote against that change
should that GR come.
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Why do you believe that this will increase our user base? It might, in
case less focus is put on stable, even reduce our user base (on the
coporate and server environment).
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* Jan Hauke Rahm [2011-05-02 18:31]:
> On Mon, May 02, 2011 at 06:27:02PM +0200, Martin Wuertele wrote:
> > * Jan Hauke Rahm [2011-05-02 18:23]:
> >
> > > Not that I don't understand your asking for reasons but... doesn't look
> > > having a large
ly all be running Red Hat.
>
> I went on about this at some length at the last DebConf as part of the
> enterprise track.
+100 on this one.
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, both the
> 'stability freaks' and the average Joe.
Er, no. Those of us using Debian in corporate environments desire high
stability, long-term support and defined, not to short, periods between
releases. The 2 years with the security support for currently about 4
ye
and the hardware
underneath is scheduled for a 3 to 5 year replacement schedule depending
on usage (with storage replacments on the lower end).
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* Clint Adams [2011-05-20 16:52]:
> Is it supposed to work with swap on an LVM volume on top of dm-crypt?
> This only works for me with uswsusp.
Works for me since Lenny.
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On 05/24/2011 09:27 AM, Mathieu Malaterre wrote:
> On Tue, May 24, 2011 at 12:03 AM, Stig Sandbeck Mathisen
> wrote:
>> Francesco Poli writes:
>>
>>> I hope that some appropriate re-directions may be set up real soon now,
>>> so that previous URLs can continue to work as before...
>>
>> If you h
On Tue, 24 May 2011 00:03:13 +0200 Stig Sandbeck Mathisen wrote:
> If you have a specific example of something that does not work, it can
> be fixed.
Hi,
Thanks Alioth maintainers for all the hard work you did for the migration.
As happens after every migration, some things may still be left. So
On Wed, May 25, 2011 at 04:39:06PM +0200, Agustin Martin wrote:
> On Tue, 24 May 2011 00:03:13 +0200 Stig Sandbeck Mathisen wrote:
>
> > If you have a specific example of something that does not work, it can
> > be fixed.
>
> Hi,
>
> Thanks Alioth maintainers for
On Fri, May 27, 2011 at 11:27:42AM +0200, Tollef Fog Heen wrote:
> ]] "Bernhard R. Link"
> | With all due respect to the great work you do maintaining alioth
> | and understanding that after such a big transition it can be
> | annoying to have to change things again I really want to urge
> | you t
On Fri, May 27, 2011 at 01:12:19PM +0200, Raphael Hertzog wrote:
> Hi,
>
> On Fri, 27 May 2011, Agustin Martin wrote:
> > Besides the problems I pointed out in my last mail, seems to be some
> > confusion for personal git repos. I see they were duplicated during
> > m
ve the tools search for a match and build for that archive.
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> Hi,
>
> On Fri, 27 May 2011, Agustin Martin wrote:
> > Besides the problems I pointed out in my last mail, seems to be some
> > confusion for personal git repos. I see they were duplicated during
> > m
* Marco d'Itri [2011-07-19 21:39]:
> So far we have one person who likes pf and one who suspects that maybe
> FreeBSD could behave better when severely overloaded.
So if trolling is on add another one: it doesn't have udev
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configuration but have the local admin start it by hand.
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> However, I'm not against discussing the debbugs issue in another thread
> because it is for sure relevant.
FTR http://lists.debian.org/bugs.html
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> On Vi, 21 nov 14, 09:45:51, Norbert Preining wrote:
> > Hi everyone,
> >
> > so here we are, after the freeze, and systemd stubbornly rejects
> > to start lightdm, my default display manager, and in turn tries
> > to start lxdm, whi
On Mon, Nov 24, 2014 at 10:28:20AM -0600, Gunnar Wolf wrote:
> Agustin Martin dijo [Fri, Nov 21, 2014 at 11:51:53AM +0100]:
> > > > Is there *any* way to *force* systemd to start lightdm ...?
> > >
> > > I have a hunch the bug is actually in lxdm (specifically th
ashed in the
> head of anyone who keeps repeating that systemd is about GNOME.
>
> Desktops (not only GNOME) use a very tiny bit of systemd, interfaces
> that could be provided elsewhere. The real purpose of systemd is to
> provide a modern init system.
I still wonder why there
Am Donnerstag, 27. November 2014, 11:53:18 schrieb Matthias Urlichs:
> Hi,
Hi Matthias,
> Martin Steigerwald:
> > > Desktops (not only GNOME) use a very tiny bit of systemd, interfaces
> > > that could be provided elsewhere. The real purpose of systemd is to
> >
Am Donnerstag, 27. November 2014, 14:28:01 schrieb Matthias Urlichs:
> Martin Steigerwald:
> > But I think for most of the people that dislike systemd this is the main
> > concern: systemd is a lot of system building blocks in *one* repository
> > and
> > *one* debian pa
ournald
307 /lib/systemd/systemd-udevd
1121 /lib/systemd/systemd-logind
1171 /usr/bin/dbus-daemon --system --address=systemd: --nofork --nopidfile --
systemd-activation
1815 /lib/systemd/systemd --user
But again, all upstream decisions.
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Am Donnerstag, 27. November 2014, 22:30:15 schrieb Vincent Bernat:
> ❦ 27 novembre 2014 22:02 +0100, Martin Steigerwald :
> > And well, I also wonder why systemd --user functionality is in the *same*
> > binary than the PID 1 stuff… but well…
>
> Wild guess: because it m
On 28/11/14 11:56, Svante Signell wrote:
3) Add information in release-notes on how to:
- Upgrade from stable/testing/sid to jessie to avoid getting
systemd-sysv installed (this should not strictly be needed if the ctte
chooses to decide that upgrades will _not_ switch init)
This part has alrea
Am Freitag, 28. November 2014, 09:28:39 schrieb Matthias Urlichs:
> Hi,
>
> Martin Steigerwald:
> > Am Donnerstag, 27. November 2014, 22:30:15 schrieb Vincent Bernat:
> > > ❦ 27 novembre 2014 22:02 +0100, Martin Steigerwald
:
> > > > And well, I also wonder
table manner. Push back and
> explain the benefits of small, compartmentalised source packages and a
> stable API. It will make the work of the release team easier and it
> will make it easier for developers to improve the code more generally.
+1
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Am Samstag, 29. November 2014, 01:32:22 schrieb Zbigniew Jędrzejewski-Szmek:
> On Thu, Nov 27, 2014 at 10:02:06PM +0100, Martin Steigerwald wrote:
> > And well, I also wonder why systemd --user functionality is in the *same*
> > binary than the PID 1 stuff… but well… I brought this
Am Samstag, 29. November 2014, 10:49:34 schrieb Martin Steigerwald:
> Am Donnerstag, 27. November 2014, 16:50:12 schrieb Neil Williams:
> > On Thu, 27 Nov 2014 16:24:12 +0100
> >
> > Matthias Urlichs wrote:
> > > Hi,
> > >
> > > Neil William
Am Samstag, 29. November 2014, 20:30:07 schrieb Svante Signell:
> On Sat, 2014-11-29 at 19:12 +0100, Zbigniew Jędrzejewski-Szmek wrote:
> > On Sat, Nov 29, 2014 at 11:51:56AM +0100, Martin Steigerwald wrote:
> > > Am Samstag, 29. November 2014, 01:32:22 schrieb Zbigniew J
to disagree part I wrote about. And it is applicable to all
the involved ones, not just to one side.
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Am Sonntag, 30. November 2014, 21:54:09 schrieb Josselin Mouette:
> Le dimanche 30 novembre 2014 à 19:59 +0100, Martin Steigerwald a écrit :
> > You complain about people blaming Debian, or more exactly Debian technical
> > committee and GR decisions, for their decision to le
achieve, and I have the impression right now here
isn´t, it is better to let go.
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don't need to and should not be
executable. If you have a corner case where that's desirable, use -X
to exclude those from permission fixes.
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Network, for example... All my firewalls, VPN servers, proxies
> are KVM Virtual Machines. The VLAN tagged packets does not get routed, it
> started to work only when with Linux 3.18.
Sounds similar to issues reported under #763428 which references
https://git.kernel.org/cgit/linux/kernel/git/
Source: linux-tools
Version: 3.16+63
Severity: normal
the Linux kernel sources include in the tools/hv directory
tools for using Linux in MS Hyper-V virtual machines.
The tools include hv-fcopy-daemon, hv-kvp-daemon, hv-vss-daemon
Especially hv-vss-daemon is needed to be able to use
Hyper-V "Liv
ike the admin had manually set their
own rules).
Opinions?
FTR, I also posted a similar mail to
https://lists.ubuntu.com/archives/ubuntu-devel/2015-May/038761.html
If you see this via debian-devel@, please keep CC'ing pkg-systemd@,
I'm not subscribed to d-devel@.
Thanks,
Martin
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> Details about [mac]
> ---
> [...]
> * It requires a writable /etc/udev/rules.d/ for persistantly storing
> the assignment. We don't want/have that with system-image
> (touch/snappy).
Sorry, these are Ubuntu
nge the name while the interface is
up and in use.
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One could even default to "mac" for USB based hardware and the default
(kernel database onboard slot path) for others [1].
Martin
[1] I don't have USB-ethernet devices myself; if you have one, please
get in touch with me, I'd like to investigate
lled wl*, and virtual interfaces like vlans, bridges,
bonds, etc. are assigned by the admin (or at least not by the kernel
and udev) anyway.
However, I don't know how USB ethernet interfaces look like (neither
in the kernel driver nor with ifnames).
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default for USB devices in the Debian policy, see the other parts of
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what you see, wire, and configure are port locations).
Anyway, I do see that we want to use MAC addresses by default for at
least USB.
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ames":
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Thanks to the comments and followups! Based on that I updated the
proposal. (Sorry for the delay..)
Martin Pitt [2015-05-08 7:59 +0200]:
> Details about [ifnames]
> ---
> This is a generic solution which e
Martin Pitt [2015-06-03 12:01 +0200]:
> | $ cat /lib/systemd/network/01-mac-for-usb.link
> | [Match]
> | Path=*-usb-*
> |
> | [Link]
> | NamePolicy=kernel database mac onboard slot path
> | MACAddressPolicy=persistent
Sorry, that was an old version. We want this:
elease-upgrader, which has extra pre/post hooks).
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>
> It would be similar to hard drives. I used UUIDs in /etc/fstab, but
> short names like /dev/sdb3 when calling mount on the command line.
Unlike /dev nodes, network interfaces can't have aliases as far as I
know. Am I missing anything?
Thanks
* Marco d'Itri [2015-05-11 05:55]:
> On May 08, Martin Pitt wrote:
>
> > I propose to retire [mac], i. e. drop
> > /lib/udev/rules.d/75-persistent-net-generator.rules and enable
> > [ifnames] by default.
> I see a large enough consensus about switching by defa
GCC 5 (mostly failures that only
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Installation of a package from the 'metapackages' section does *not*
mark its dependencies as automatically installed.
This statement does not appear to be correct on my Debian jessie system
using aptitude. I just experimentally marked the cinnamon-core
There are some good nows on that front with the move to Apache License
version 2.0[1]
[1] https://www.openssl.org/blog/blog/2015/08/01/cla/
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2.0.33 from the distribution. So both should be available.
I second this, 2.0.34 has undergone much testing in prereleases and is a
further refinement of the stable branch of the kernel tree.
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I believe the binutils-m68k-palmos-coff package was derived from my
binutils-m68k-linux package, and the same goes for gcc-m68k-linux.
If you need to rebuild the palmos gcc source packages from them, it should
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> no utmp entry available, using value of LOGNAME ("mdt") at
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This is just a warning, you can ignore this.
Btw. could controllib please ignore this warning and forget about
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>* Added pre-dependency for passwd to msqld as its tools are used
> in the preinst.
You're meant to obtain a co
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> Martin Schulze <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> writes:
>
> > >* Added pre-dependency for passwd to msqld as its tools are used
> > > in the preinst.
> >
> > Does anybody object?
>
> My or
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> Martin Schulze wrote:
> > The problem is that the _preinst_ might use the programs useradd and
> > groupadd.
>
> Why not do it in the postinst, at configure time? Then a normal
> dependency is enough.
B
or it is not. Then we could skip it.
Period.
For distribution-release critical bugs an experts group could help.
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[1] http://www.debian.org/doc/packaging-manuals/developers-reference/ch1.html
[2] That is James Troup and Igor Grobman
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for the fact that they are pumping 1000's of dollars into
> Gnome development instead of taking the easy way out and paying
> troll-tech...
... and receiving much complaints by the KDE people ... as
recently shown at Linux Kongress in Cologne...
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On Tue, Jun 09, 1998 at 12:37:17AM -0700, Tor Slettnes wrote:
>
> It seems that the newest 'Packages' files in the slink distribution
> are from May 30th. Is there a problem?
Yes. See also
http://www.infodrom.north.de/Debian/Bugs/db/23/23306.html
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> I have moved msql 2.0.3-4 into Incoming/REJECT
>
> - Forwarded message from James Troup <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> -
>
> [EMAIL PROTECTED] (Martin Schulze) writes:
>
> >* Added pre-dependency fo
y and back into the Incoming?
> >
>
> I'll soon be implementing a user for mysql-server... if noone has any
> better ideas, I'll implement a similar pre-dependency to that Joey is
> using for msql.
That spoken, I'm moving the files back int
stall it.
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> Is there anyway there could be a variable set that says "do not install
> /usr/doc files"? This way those who do not want the docs can go on w/o
> them.
And /usr/doc//copyright? We still need that for every file, as part
of policy.
On Tue, Jun 09, 1998 at 07:46:47PM -0700, David Welton wrote:
> /*
> * Copyright (c) 1990-1998 Michael Sandrof, Troy Rollo, Matthew R. Green
> * All rights reserved.
I won't include the whole Licence but a pointer in a press release.
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I'm considering stealing ideas for installing Emacs files from
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As there were enough people there is no need for another one but
fwiw I'd also be willing to help in cases something needs to be
done. I'm mainly speaking of small/quick admin tasks not the
longterm ones. (for the record)
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>
> This one can be closed. IrcII is now free.
Indeed, it should be closed asap otherwise there is a good chance
that Guy removes the package when he picks up the bugs. It won't
be the first time...
This mail closes the bug via Bcc.
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And you're done.
Next thing please.
Regards,
Joey
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I tried
ae -f /etc/ae2vi.rc tst
and could not even quit with :q, I had to switch consoles and kill it.
Perhaps much of this discussion could be solved if ae managed vi keybindings
a little better.
Martin.
P.S. This test was using ae version 962-20.
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> Package: tetex-base
> Version: 0.9-7
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> When the user first hits an ungenerated font then "permission denied"
> messages are plentiful... :)
The fonts get generated correctly, but it is a security problem to let
everybody write the ls-R file.
>
> I believe th
d files from debian/ : fixes 21276
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* changed package from ncurses to slang for the boot floppies
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(th
odrom.north.de/Debian/Bugs/db/23/23057.html
Thanks in advance,
Joey
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pgp
yourself (using
texconfig).
Christoph
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Omegaman writes:
> [EMAIL PROTECTED] writes:
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> > Omegaman <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> writes:
> > No, editing /etc/texmf/texmf.cnf is the wrong way. The format of it
> > changed completely.
>
> So I should probably copy texmf.cnf.dpkg.dist over the orignal and
> edit to my system (if needed).
Olaf Weber writes:
> christoph martin writes:
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> >> Package: tetex-base
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> >> When the user first hits an ungenerated font then "permission denied"
> >> messages are
Hi,
I like to package pavuk. It is a wget like programm with optional GTK
interface from http://www.idata.sk/~ondrej/pavuk/
Comments?
Ciao,
Martin
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or it. Actually this site looks out of date. tcd is mentioned as worked
on, but is available for slink.
I hereby withdraw my proposal.
Cc: goes to [EMAIL PROTECTED] as I received an ACK from them.
Ciao,
Martin
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>> "MZ" == Milan Zamazal <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> writes:
MZ> x11/xtoolwait - serializing startup of X applications
I can take this package, if there are no objections.
Ciao,
Martin
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Dale Scheetz <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> writes:
> On 17 Jun 1998, Martin Mitchell wrote:
>
> > Dale Scheetz <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> writes:
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> > > This is the old .rc file, left behind by a dpkg art
guess is that you need to install libc6-*-dev, where the * depends on
what version of libc6 you have available. Without an error message it's
hard to debug.
Later,
Dale
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I apologize, but I used the wrong list...
Regards,
Joey
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