Re: Bug#3415: Xdvi and postscript fonts

1996-06-29 Thread Mark Eichin
>Last time (yesterday) when I used \usepackage{times} in my latex2e >files, itworked OK, but you probably mean something different >with the postscript fonts. Did you use xdvi, though? latex->dvips works, I think, it's the latex->xdvi that screws up (xdvi uses ugly fonts at the wrong size instead,

Bug#4147: [daemon@ATHENA.MIT.EDU : [linux-security] Vulnerability in ALL linux distributions]

1996-08-14 Thread Mark Eichin
Package: mount Version: 2.5j-1 I don't know if we have this problem currently, but I'd appreciate it if you'd check. --- Forwarded transaction [8323] [EMAIL PROTECTED] (Theodore Y. Ts'o) Consulting_FYI 08/13/96 19:59 (73 lines) Subject: [linux-security] Vulnerability in ALL linux distribut

Bug#4382: dselect/dpkg treats squid_1.0.9-1 as a downgrade from squid_1.0.beta16-1

1996-09-02 Thread Mark Purcell
Package: squid Version: 1.0.9-1 dselect/dpkg treats squid_1.0.9-1 as a downgrade from squid_1.0.beta16-1 and won't upgrade unless you force it. Mark

Bug#4404: fsp postinst mildly broken

1996-09-05 Thread Mark Eichin
package: fsp version: 2.71-3 [If I just hit return, it spews; if I actually hit n, it seems to do the right thing fix is probably to change the $input = "y" to something like "$input" = "y" so they don't vanish... Setting up fsp (2.71-3) ... If you want, I can configure FSP

Bug#4434: lynx 2.6

1996-09-24 Thread Mark Purcell
lynx-2.6 and made it available for ftp. I also suggested that Marek may like to take the package over as maintainer and that he should submit it to /Incoming on master.debian.org as an interium update. Mark

Bug#4612: dhcpd overwrites existing config file /etc/dhcpd.conf

1996-09-27 Thread Mark Purcell
Package: dhcpd Version: 0.5.13-1 Dhcpd overwrites an existing /etc/dhcpd.conf file without warning. I suppose I have no one else but myself to blame for this one, it burnt me last upgrade as well, but I didn't report it as a bug. So it got me again this time. :-) Mark

Bug#4613: Squid overwrites squid.conf

1996-09-27 Thread Mark Purcell
Package: squid Version: 1.0.16-1 Overwrites /etc/squid.conf, looks like squid.conffiles didn't make it into the binary. Mark

Re: sendmail/smail with relaying blocks?

1997-05-14 Thread Mark Baker
In article <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>, Chris Walker <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> writes: >> My exim package currently allows relaying; as Craig points out below, what >> you allow relaying to/from is extremely site-dependent. > > I beg to differ. I think what is the sensible default depends on the > usa

Re: Imminent Checker upgrade release

1997-05-14 Thread Mark Baker
In article <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>, Tom Lees <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> writes: >> (I actually had to install an extra hard drive in order to build this >> package. It takes over 200MB of hard disk space to build--is that a >> record?) > > No, IIRC the just the XFree86 sources take ~250MB :> The

Re: Imminent Checker upgrade release

1997-05-15 Thread Mark Eichin
> but are small anyway) are about 120 Mb uncompiled; compiling them takes just > under 200 IIRC. Actually, xfree86 (which generates a bunch of .deb files) is a 360M source + build tree, not counting the resulting .deb files themselves... There's probably not much bigger than that in the debian r

Re: Bug#9813: rxvt 2.20-4 : Bad setting of TERM environ variable

1997-05-16 Thread Mark Baker
In article <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>, Bart Schuller <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> writes: > Also, I'd hope that if xterm now does color as standard, that fact is > reflected in its terminfo entry. No, because if you do that, programs like slrn will try to use colour, which means they are almost impossib

anyone want to package "jade"?

1997-05-16 Thread Mark Eichin
Given that we already have "sp" and a bunch of other sgml tools, it would be nice if someone packaged jade as well -- since it has decent conversion tools, as metioned below... [from http://www.jclark.com/jade/] What is Jade? Jade is an implementation of the DSSSL style language. The current vers

Re: crons scripts should report status info in the mail

1997-05-18 Thread Mark Eichin
> Q: Is anyone using `autoconf`? I wonder if it's worth learning to > use, and what people use it for. (I've barely glanced over the > manuals for it, so far.) Most main GNU packages (ie. what's on prep) have switched over to autoconf (even gcc itself probably will, there's an effort underway,

Re: list of bashisms

1997-05-19 Thread Mark Baker
In article <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>, Andy Mortimer <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> writes: > There has just been a long list of bugs against packages using `bashisms' > in their scripts, and I can certainly remember this issue coming up > before. But I don't know about anyone else, but I certainly have no

Re: libc6 migration -- xlib

1997-05-19 Thread Mark Eichin
> IIRC libgdbm is no longer developed, because even the author saw that > libdb was better, and that there was no reason for double work. Nice theory; however, db can't read gdbm files, nor does it provide the gnu-specific version of the interface... so the existing gdbm will be needed provided

Re: rm -r * and the default prompt

1997-05-19 Thread Mark Eichin
> If we want to be friendly to newbies, we can write an X configurator > like RedHat; but I don't think that's what we want. I've heard rumors of this, but not seen it -- how does it differ from XF86Setup (not xf86config, which is probably what the debian old-timers think of, but the new tk-based

Re: rm -r * and the default prompt

1997-05-20 Thread Mark Eichin
Oh, I see. Nevermind then -- what you're saying is that the "X configurator" is at the level of an X based dselect -- so that's the problem of the "diety" team, right? (Thus it's not something I need to be particularly concerned with.) Thanks... _Mark_ -- TO UNSUBSCRIBE FROM THIS MAILING LIST

Re: Perl 5.004, perl modules, and binary compatibility

1997-05-20 Thread Mark Eichin
> this since he asked for it a while back. The upgrade to libc6 for perl > can't happen until there is a libgdbm compatible with it though since I > refuse to break everyone's dbm interfaces. I'll also be able to release Great - as soon as I get some consensus on package naming, I'll try to put

Re: libc6 migration -- xlib

1997-05-20 Thread Mark Eichin
> No. xlib6 should be for libc6 (more long-term solution). Then create an > xlib6-libc5. How we handle the dependencies for this, I don't know. Fix But then anyone "upgrading" xlib6 (the 6 for x11r6, not libc6!) will end up with a libc6 version; Is that what we want to happen? > > alt-xlib6-dev

Re: libc6 migration -- xlib

1997-05-20 Thread Mark Eichin
> 1/ Doom comes without any source, so dlltools won't be of any use. Irrelevant -- *aout-svgalib* is what needs dlltools, not doom itself. > Debian still support a.out executables _execution_ but not a.out > _development_ anymore... I guess I could believe that as long as the a.out developmen

Re: RFC: policy supplement for library packages

1997-05-21 Thread Mark Eichin
> libc6 | libfoo-dev | /usr/{lib,include} > libc5 | libfoo-libc5-dev| /usr/{lib,include} I still have trouble with this. There is already a libc5 | libfoo-dev| /usr/{lib,include} for each libfoo out there. When people upgrade from 1.3->2.0, what's *s

Re: config packages [Was: rm -r * and the default prompt]

1997-05-22 Thread Mark Eichin
> NOO We should _NOT_ use this name. I hate it (and its probably "Style sheets" then. :-) -- TO UNSUBSCRIBE FROM THIS MAILING LIST: e-mail the word "unsubscribe" to [EMAIL PROTECTED] . Trouble? e-mail to [EMAIL PROTECTED] .

Re: Bug#9813: rxvt 2.20-4 : Bad setting of TERM environ variable

1997-05-22 Thread Mark Eichin
(1) xterm-color has *not* been in X for years, though it was a collection of patches for X11R5 and X11R6 -- it was not in XFree 3.1.2, it was only added to XFree 3.2, probably via X11R6.1 but I'd have to check -- it's possibly *only* in XFree. This would mean not only that xterm-color isn't *widel

Re: 1.3 installation report.

1997-05-22 Thread Mark Eichin
nope, recent versions of xbase aren't any better about shadow support, because 1) there's nothing in the programmers guide even mentioning it 2) the xdm shadow support doesn't fall back in any sane way, and it's more than just dropping a check -- a bunch of code needs rearrangement.

Re: dselect/diety audit trail

1997-05-23 Thread Mark Baker
In article <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>, "Karl M. Hegbloom" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> writes: > So do I. It would make it a lot easier to do bug reports when things > fail at installation or upgrade time. I agree, but I'm puzzled by what you chose for the subject line. This sort of functionality bel

Re: Upcoming Debian Releases

1997-05-24 Thread Mark Baker
In article <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>, Andreas Jellinghaus <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> writes: > b) change policy to _not_ allow config information in /etc scripts I disagree strongly. A script without config information doesn't belong in /etc at all. Having your database seems like a reasonable idea,

Re: Upcoming Debian Releases

1997-05-24 Thread Mark Baker
On Sat, 24 May 1997, Vincent Renardias wrote: > As a compromise it could use the same system than the sendmail aliases: > The user make changes in a plain text file (/etc/aliases), but the > application 'compiles' this file as a db database (/etc/aliases.db)? Can you rely on all applications tha

Re: Missing xemacs

1997-05-24 Thread Mark Eichin
> emacs. While this is an inconvenience, it allows people to choose > their options. Indeed - I'm the *emacs* maintainer, and I ran xemacs on one of my systems for a *long* time (finally switched back to emacs for performance and diskspace reasons, but it was a primary mail reading site for 6 mo

Re: Old bug reports

1997-05-24 Thread Mark Eichin
> Of the 5 oldest bugs, 4 are on xbase, and might refer to problems > specific to XFree86 3.1.2, which is no longer current. Someone ought In fact, when I took over X, I went through and closed a *large* number of bugs in the database; this also involved writing a bunch of patches, which is wh

Bug#10089: Experiences with 1.3 ("bo")

1997-05-24 Thread Mark Eichin
> In dselect, running "configure packages" multiple times, as suggested in > the documentation, did not seem to correct some of the misinstalled > packages (Xserver, xext). Please be sure to report these problems specifically, I really am paying attention to them... cut&paste of the actual messa

Re: Upcoming Debian Releases

1997-05-25 Thread Mark Baker
In article <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>, Tom Lees <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> writes: >> the other solution is to have a small utility that stores these values, >> can change them and gives the values to the scripts. > > The third solution, which I prefer is a utility which modifies the > variables with

Re: GOAL: Consistent Keyboard Configuration

1997-05-25 Thread Mark Baker
In article <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>, Manoj Srivastava <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> writes: > See, I think this is buggy. I have been using Emacs for nearly > a decade now, and nobody takes my C-H default away from me (in other > words, people have had exposure to applications like emacs on othe

Re: May I remove a "feature" from man? [was: Bug#10039]

1997-05-25 Thread Mark Baker
In article <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>, Fabrizio Polacco <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> writes: > Bug#10039 exposed a problem with the "feature" of man to index all the > 'man' and 'MAN' subdirectory it finds in the HOME and current directory, > when it is invoked. I can see automatically supporting $HOME/

Re: Conflict between Packages file and actual files

1997-05-26 Thread Mark Eichin
Just a pointer -- CPAN (the Comprehensive Perl Archive Network, inspired by CTAN [s/Perl/TeX/]) has some tools for monitoring their mirrors for freshness and accuracy; you can probably find the tools and reports from any CPAN site or from the perl website... or else ask on the perl-packrats (archiv

Re: GOAL: Consistent Keyboard Configuration

1997-05-26 Thread Mark Eichin
well, there is a half-baked idea that I've seen go by: in emacs, *if* the user has done an stty erase ^h (ie. if the ltchars erase entry is ^h) then treat ^h as backspace, otherwise treat it as help-char... However, that's not going into debian emacs unless it goes into the upstream version (19.35

Re: GOAL: Consistent Keyboard Configuration

1997-05-26 Thread Mark Eichin
> Huh. I have the opposite problem: The end key doens't work in xterms! in xterm, or in rxvt? (This is one of the two or three differences between the rxvt and xterm termcap entries...) -- TO UNSUBSCRIBE FROM THIS MAILING LIST: e-mail the word "unsubscribe" to [EMAIL PROTECTED] . Trouble? e-ma

Re: May I remove a "feature" from man? [was: Bug#10039]

1997-05-26 Thread Mark Baker
In article <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>, Fabrizio Polacco <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> writes: > Anyway, the whole feature seems strange to me, because usually man > hierarchies are at the same level of binary dirs, not under them. I agree; remove it completely. If it looked in a more sensible place for t

Re: ssh and default home directory permissions (revisited?)

1997-05-26 Thread Mark Baker
In article <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>, Carey Evans <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> writes: > I've removed group write permissions from my home dir because of the > programs like qmail and ssh which don't like it. I don't think > anything would break because of removing these permissions, so maybe > adduser

Re: anarchism_7.7-1.deb

1999-09-23 Thread Mark Brown
on > home-made apple pie", but nobody has packaged that (yet). IIRC, it was this very package that prompted the last discussion about setting up a data section. What came of that? -- Mark Brown mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] (Trying to avoid grumpiness) http://www.tardis.ed.

Re: Danger Will Robinson! Danger!

2000-03-13 Thread Mark Mealman
really, I could care less if my server's gpm package gets broken. It's not going to effect productivity. Debian is eventually going to need to move away from the current stable->frozen->unstable release program, in 5 years trying to get 12,000 packages to work in perfect harmony is going to burn up too many man hours. Wasn't there a proposal of package pools awhile back? -Mark

Re: problem with leafnode in 2.1r5

2000-03-13 Thread Mark Brown
.ac.uk/users/broonie/debian which comes with my usual "I haven't tried to install this let alone use it, but it built cleanly" warning. You'd probably get an answer faster by either contacting the maintainer (me) or reporting a bug. -- Mark Brown mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]

Re: Danger Will Robinson! Danger!

2000-03-14 Thread Mark Mealman
> On Mon, Mar 13, 2000 at 11:02:04AM -0500, Mark Mealman wrote: > > I really don't like unstable either, but I've pretty much abandoned the > > stable tree as too behind the times back when slink was nearing freeze. > > Here's a serious question for you: w

Re: A "progressive" distribution

2000-03-15 Thread Mark Mealman
gs. What problems would the above cause? Could we code around issues like say php xx.3 requiring apache xx.3 and apache not hitting thaw due to a crit bug? The system would need to know to keep php xx.3 out until apache become thawable. -Mark

Re: Bug#60753: mutt: /etc/Muttrc should not use colors

2000-03-20 Thread Mark Brown
uld expect. Old users get confused, and new users get confusing help from old users. -- Mark Brown mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] (Trying to avoid grumpiness) http://www.tardis.ed.ac.uk/~broonie/ EUFShttp://www.eusa.ed.ac.uk/societies/filmsoc/ pgpd2BtnVEEIR.pgp Description: PGP signature

ITP: GOB [Was: Re: GOB package?]

2000-03-21 Thread Mark Brown
editted. Syntax is inspired by java and yacc or lex. The implementation is intentionaly kept simple, and no C actual code parsing is done. The license is GPL. -- Mark Brown mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] (Trying to avoid grumpiness) http://www.tardis.ed.ac.uk/~broonie/ EUFShttp:

Re: RBL report..

2000-03-26 Thread Mark Brown
lays and ORBS also blacklist sites for other reasons, such as if their probes are firewalled out. This will, for example, catch sites that automatically firewall out sites that attempt to relay through them - the site notices the first check, blocks the rest and gets added to the list. -- Mark B

Re: GOB

2000-03-26 Thread Mark Brown
ge to Incoming. However, I'm not particularly attached to it (I only packaged it because I need it to build another package) so you're welcome to take it. -- Mark Brown mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] (Trying to avoid grumpiness) http://www.tardis.ed.ac.uk/~broonie/ EUFS

Kernel 2.4, Apache2, X

2000-03-27 Thread Mark Messer
default installs As slink running @ r5 still only has Stone aged x 3.3.2.3a when everyone else has as part of the install 3.3.6 or an upgrade we still have nether publicly available All newstuff should be included as suggest in potato Mark :) [EMAIL PROTECTED]

Re: RBL report..

2000-03-28 Thread Mark Brown
y RSS and DUL too. That roughly matches my experience - ORBS blocks far too much to use in more than an advisory manner, but the other RBLs don't create any problem. Of course, neither of us sees the traffic Debian is seeing and that's what any decision needs to be based upon. -- Mark Bro

Re: RBL report..

2000-03-30 Thread Mark Brown
ugh I'm not sure I want to. -- Mark Brown mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] (Trying to avoid grumpiness) http://www.tardis.ed.ac.uk/~broonie/ EUFShttp://www.eusa.ed.ac.uk/societies/filmsoc/ pgpkVlFPiocmb.pgp Description: PGP signature

Re: ATTN: pjw@edmc.net

2000-04-01 Thread Mark Brown
to them and what they can do to work around this situation. Not that I would advocate doing this in the first place. -- Mark Brown mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] (Trying to avoid grumpiness) http://www.tardis.ed.ac.uk/~broonie/ EUFShttp://www.eusa.ed.ac.uk/societies/filmsoc/ pgptNT0Xpql6Q.pgp Description: PGP signature

Re: [Election Results] Official and Final

2000-04-01 Thread Mark Brown
On Fri, Mar 31, 2000 at 11:40:43PM +0200, Josip Rodin wrote: > Okay, 62.43% isn't so bad, but it doesn't really take that much effort to > vote in Debian, IMHO. You've just got to decide how to vote first. -- Mark Brown mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] (Trying to avoid grumpin

Re: Pgcc in Deb

2000-04-01 Thread Mark Brown
ckages of PGCC? | A: No. While some people have expressed an interest in them, nobody has | actually done the work yet. If you are interested the people to speak | to are probably the Debian gcc maintainers. If you want to use it it's pretty trivial to install from source. -- Mark B

Re: ATTN: pjw@edmc.net

2000-04-01 Thread Mark Brown
On Sat, Apr 01, 2000 at 04:00:57PM -0500, Branden Robinson wrote: > On Sat, Apr 01, 2000 at 04:02:43PM +0100, Mark Brown wrote: > > You should at the very least mention why you're closing the bug report. > Did you bother to read my close message? Obviously not. I did in

Re: Pgcc in Deb

2000-04-03 Thread Mark Brown
ot to mention do some benchmarking to verify that you're actually getting something worthwhile from the exercise. Most programs aren't that compute-intensive, and gcc is more reliable - just blindly using pgcc is probably not a good idea. -- Mark Brown mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] (Trying

pcre

2000-08-19 Thread Mark Baker
I've just uploaded version 3 of libpcre. I've put it in a new package, libpcre3, and given it a new soname. I'm not sure if this was strictly necessary or not: the upstream documentation doesn't mention binary compatibility with the old version, probably because older versions weren't intended to

Re: BTS not showing my bugs

2000-08-31 Thread Mark Brown
On Wed, Aug 30, 2000 at 04:57:51PM -0700, Joey Hess wrote: > All statically updated BTS pages are broken, please see DWN for details. Might it be an idea to put a notice about this on the web page? It'd avoid a lot of confusion. -- Mark Brown mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] (Trying

Re: gpm and X problem investigated

2000-09-01 Thread Mark Brown
n I tried a Potato install). -- Mark Brown mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] (Trying to avoid grumpiness) http://www.tardis.ed.ac.uk/~broonie/ EUFShttp://www.eusa.ed.ac.uk/societies/filmsoc/ pgpwyn7TBTOB2.pgp Description: PGP signature

Re: Python 1.6 released and GPL incompatible

2000-09-07 Thread Mark Brown
#x27;s also the fact that IP rights work much better if you make an effort to enforce them. (IANAL, of course) -- Mark Brown mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] (Trying to avoid grumpiness) http://www.tardis.ed.ac.uk/~broonie/ EUFShttp://www.eusa.ed.ac.uk/societies/filmsoc/ -- To UN

Re: bug database not updated?

2000-09-07 Thread Mark Brown
On Wed, Sep 06, 2000 at 08:23:40PM +0200, Santiago Vila wrote: > Static pages are known to be outdated. I'm sure I asked this previously, but could we not add a note to that effect on at least the front page? -- Mark Brown mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] (Trying to avoid gr

Re: Problems with mail system? [Fwd: Returned mail: User unknown]

2000-09-07 Thread Mark Brown
's from being too geeky myself, but Branden's explanation > (the recipient of the error message is not welcome on *THEIR* Internet > under the reasoning that they're ... refusing connections from machines It was the bit about "dialup trash" - inability to get revers

Re: why apt/dpkg not using bzip2

2000-09-11 Thread Mark Brown
information for anyone without access to the repository. That's a hassle when you get maintainer changes and makes the packaghe source itself much less useful than it could be. -- Mark Brown mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] (Trying to avoid grumpiness) http://www.tardis.ed.ac.uk/~broonie/

Re: KDE2 - nice demolition job ...

2000-09-13 Thread Mark Mealman
ne knows we're free software bigots. Everyone knows we're a pain in the ass with regards to software licenses. Everyone knows that Alpha/PPC/etc doesn't get the support i386 does. No need to troll on any of the above to get our attention. We're all quite aware of the issues and

Re: wnpp bug reports

2000-12-22 Thread Mark Brown
t appear. If you CC it it will - that's just a regular mailing list posting. If you use X-Debbugs-Cc it will go through the BTS first. -- Mark Brown mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] (Trying to avoid grumpiness) http://www.tardis.ed.ac.uk/~broonie/ EUFShttp://www.

Re: Close list

2000-12-24 Thread Mark Brown
ways seem to hit each and every mailing list (or at least, a large number of them), which makes each spam much more noticable. -- Mark Brown mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] (Trying to avoid grumpiness) http://www.tardis.ed.ac.uk/~broonie/ EUFShttp://www.eusa.ed.ac.uk/societies/filmsoc/

Re: Close list

2000-12-24 Thread Mark Brown
l off the > remaining attempts. Without killing all the messages crossposted to all the port lists (andu usually one or two others). :-) -- Mark Brown mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] (Trying to avoid grumpiness) http://www.tardis.ed.ac.uk/~broonie/ EUFShttp://www.eusa.ed.ac.uk/societies/filmsoc/

Re: What do you wish for in an package manager?

2000-12-25 Thread Mark Seaborn
<http://members.xoom.com/mseaborn/comp/units/>, if you want to have a look. -- Mark Seaborn - [EMAIL PROTECTED] - http://members.xoom.com/mseaborn/ - ``Jersey's Crime Prevention Team are out and about, so have you locked up your property?'' -- Roger Bara

Re: What do you wish for in an package manager?

2000-12-27 Thread Mark Seaborn
Craig Sanders <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> writes: > On Sun, Dec 24, 2000 at 08:41:43PM +0000, Mark Seaborn wrote: > > I want a system where I can install multiple versions of a library > > (or any package really) and say which version I want each program > > on the system to

Re: What do you wish for in an package manager?

2000-12-29 Thread Mark Seaborn
Hamish Moffatt <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> writes: > On Wed, Dec 27, 2000 at 01:03:03AM +0000, Mark Seaborn wrote: > > > Of course. I know this. It is repeated many times on this mailing > > list. But it does not have to be so. Why should upgrading package X > > affec

Re: Huh, gcc 2.95.3?

2001-01-01 Thread Mark Brown
It's also binary-compatible with 2.95.2. -- Mark Brown mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] (Trying to avoid grumpiness) http://www.tardis.ed.ac.uk/~broonie/ EUFShttp://www.eusa.ed.ac.uk/societies/filmsoc/ pgpxUWpYjngZj.pgp Description: PGP signature

Re: bugs + rant + constructive criticism (long)

2001-01-03 Thread Mark Brown
t; > list'' easy. But it already is easy. Reasonable mail programs have two > > separate ``reply'' commands: one that replies directly to the author > > of a message, and another that replies to the author plus all of the > > list recipients. > This do

Re: bugs + rant + constructive criticism (long)

2001-01-04 Thread Mark Brown
e saying is that you're purposely ignoring people's > Mail-Followup-To when it suits you, while insisting that others abide by > yours? That sounds kind of ridiculous to me. OTOH, the behaviour in the absence of any Mail-Followup-To: should be to reply to either the list or the se

Re: ITP: crack

2001-01-04 Thread Mark Brown
> Have you looked at the package john? AFAIK john can do anything crack > can do. john is a single process cracker - it can't distribute the load over multiple CPUs and multiple machines. -- Mark Brown mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] (Trying to avoid grumpiness) http://www.tardi

Re: bugs + rant + constructive criticism (long)

2001-01-04 Thread Mark Brown
to people's attention it seems silly not to use it. -- Mark Brown mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] (Trying to avoid grumpiness) http://www.tardis.ed.ac.uk/~broonie/ EUFShttp://www.eusa.ed.ac.uk/societies/filmsoc/

Re: our broken man package

2001-01-04 Thread Mark Brown
uld be more useful for them to conflict with each other and just include the man executable directly. -- Mark Brown mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] (Trying to avoid grumpiness) http://www.tardis.ed.ac.uk/~broonie/ EUFShttp://www.eusa.ed.ac.uk/societies/filmsoc/ pgp6z1ZrqSaQO.pgp Description: PGP signature

ITO: wterm

2001-01-06 Thread Mark Triggs
ards, happy new year, etc.. Mark -- <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> || <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> Fingerprint: 1024D/3A2EC93E 901A DCF2 C894 7115 BFFF D2B0 50E1 989F 3A2E C93E

Re: lilo.conf

2001-01-06 Thread Mark Brown
t does save it itself to /etc/lilo.conf.old (although it does this each time it's reconfigured so you'll only have the previous lilo.conf in there). -- Mark Brown mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] (Trying to avoid grumpiness) http://www.tardis.ed.ac.uk/~broonie/ EUFS

Re: can the bug reporter close a bug? [was:Re: Bug#81396: root shell fscked after upgrade to woody]

2001-01-07 Thread Mark Brown
and comes from. The unenforced standard is that only the submitter and the maintainer responsible for the package should close a bug. -- Mark Brown mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] (Trying to avoid grumpiness) http://www.tardis.ed.ac.uk/~broonie/ EUFShttp://www.eusa.ed.ac.uk/societi

Re: IPv6 support in Debian

2001-01-07 Thread Mark Baker
On Wed, Jan 03, 2001 at 02:00:07PM +1100, Dancer Vesperman wrote: > Certainly we have things like exim, lftp, ssh that work 'out of the box' > with v6...and apps that work with v6 work (equally) flawlessly in > v4-only environments. That's not necessarily the case. There were lots of problems w

Re: Developer Behavior

2001-01-08 Thread Mark Mealman
rom source vendors that totally break their OS environments(Windows NT service pack upgrades do that regularly). Debian unstable(or testing), may not be distribution you want your heart monitor to be running on when you're at the hospital, but it's far from lacking production quality. -Mark

Re: Developer Behavior

2001-01-09 Thread Mark Brown
ctually used unstable. Besides, there's still no guarantee that people are actually going to read the warnings or even that they will be warned before whatever it is causes the breakage. -- Mark Brown mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] (Trying to avoid grumpiness) http://www.tardis.ed.ac.uk/~broonie/ EUFShttp://www.eusa.ed.ac.uk/societies/filmsoc/

Re: Developer Behavior

2001-01-09 Thread Mark Mealman
On Tue, Jan 09, 2001 at 11:23:08AM -0500, Branden Robinson wrote: > On Wed, Jan 10, 2001 at 02:34:39AM +1100, Russell Coker wrote: > > 1) This situation does not stop a running machine from working, it will > > only > > stop it from booting. > > Oh, well, as long as THAT'S all it is... Heh, it

Re: /etc/hostname

2003-05-29 Thread Mark Brown
On Thu, May 29, 2003 at 09:20:34AM -0500, Steve Langasek wrote: > However, I've seen problems caused by the use of the short name only in > /etc/hostname (mostly mail-related, maybe?) and I systematically change > this to hold the FQDN on my systems. Haven't filed a bug about this, > because I'm

Re: appropriate use of /etc/alternatives

2003-05-31 Thread Mark Brown
On Fri, May 30, 2003 at 03:29:43PM -0400, Noah Meyerhans wrote: > But they do support the same functionality, just on different formats of > data file. There are plenty of cases where a user needs to be aware of If the input formats are different then the alternative is pretty useless: you can't

Re: new bug tags

2003-06-01 Thread Mark Brown
On Sun, Jun 01, 2003 at 03:33:29PM +0100, James Troup wrote: > I don't; it's silly. At best you'll get an architecture tag for the > arch that the buildd maintainer reported the bug on, but that's it. > An inaccurate architecture tag is worse than useless, it's misleading. > Just parse wanna-buil

Re: new bug tags

2003-06-02 Thread Mark Brown
On Mon, Jun 02, 2003 at 08:19:53AM +0200, Martin Schulze wrote: > Mark Brown wrote: > > Something that would be really useful would be to open up the ability to > > annotate the buildd logs more widely. I've often felt that the buildd > > logs would be a lot more usef

Re: Proposal: removing libc5, altgcc and all their old-days dependencies

2003-06-18 Thread Mark Brown
On Wed, Jun 18, 2003 at 04:17:43PM +0200, Francesco P. Lovergine wrote: > IMO it's a good moment to drop all the following i386-specific packages > which are libc5 related: > zlib1 This is going to vanish shortly anyway unless the libc5 bug is fixed since it breaks zlib builds. I'd only been co

Bug in test suite for pcre 4.3

2003-06-18 Thread Mark Baker
Andreas Metzler wrote: Mark has uploaded it yesterday in the evening. The bad news is that 4.3 seems to be broken on m68k, ia64 and alpha, "make test" fails. I do not believe it is actually broken, at least not on alpha; I'm assuming the problems on the other architectures are si

Re: Proposal: removing libc5, altgcc and all their old-days dependencies

2003-06-19 Thread Mark Brown
On Thu, Jun 19, 2003 at 08:55:02AM +0200, Stefano Zacchiroli wrote: > On Wed, Jun 18, 2003 at 04:17:43PM +0200, Francesco P. Lovergine wrote: > > zlib1 > The ocaml bindings to zlib still build depend on zlib1g-dev. > Which is the newer alternative to this package? That's zlib1 not zlib1g. We're

Re: Proposal: removing libc5, altgcc and all their old-days dependencies

2003-06-22 Thread Mark Brown
On Sat, Jun 21, 2003 at 12:26:52PM -0500, John Goerzen wrote: > Why not just ship an old binutils/gcc to build the old libc5 binaries? > I really don't understand why this is such a difficult problem. If, for > instance, gcc 2.7.2 could build these things three years ago, why can't it > now? It'

Re: Bug #193271: galeon: should register in /etc/alternatives/x-www-browser

2003-06-25 Thread Mark Howard
; On Mon, 2003-06-23 at 18:57, Mark Howard wrote: > > Followup-For: Bug #193271 > > Package: galeon > > Why? > > well ok, you will probably argue that I could use update-alternatives > --config x-www-browser > and thus select galeon manually... > > However *IM

Bug#198479: general: perlapi-5.6.1 missing in sarge since perl 5.8.0 rollout

2003-06-28 Thread Mark Hedges
not install. --mark-- -- System Information: Debian Release: testing/unstable Architecture: i386 Kernel: Linux nutter.linuxdelivery.com 2.4.20 #1 SMP Fri Jun 27 17:48:13 PDT 2003 i686 Locale: LANG=en_US, LC_CTYPE=en_US

Re: Please don't misuse the debian/changelog to close bugs!

2003-06-29 Thread Mark Brown
On Thu, Jun 26, 2003 at 07:56:37AM +1000, Herbert Xu wrote: > Brian Nelson <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: > > http://bugs.debian.org/188740 > That's a documentation issue. debian/changelog is not the place for > documenting random features. Messages that close bugs are, however, the place for docum

perlapi-5.6.1

2003-06-29 Thread Mark Hedges
you for investigating. --mark--

Re: Problem with advocating new prospective delevolper.

2003-06-30 Thread Mark Brown
On Fri, Jun 27, 2003 at 09:20:18AM +0200, Janusz A. Urbanowicz wrote: > I'm trying to advocate a developer, although my recomendation bounces from > nm.debian.org, with following message: That happened to me recently - I mailed [EMAIL PROTECTED] and the database got updated manually. Hopefully t

precheck depends before package removal; notification period

2003-06-30 Thread Mark Hedges
Shouldn't there be a policy to check for packages that depend on a package BEFORE its removal from the distribution, and to notify maintainers ahead of time that their packages will break? Such was the case with the disappearance of perlapi-5.6.1. --mark--

Re: Debconf or not debconf

2003-07-02 Thread Mark Brown
On Tue, Jul 01, 2003 at 05:12:22PM +0200, Julien LEMOINE wrote: > I received a bug report on stunnel package from an user [1] that > complained > about the fact that I didn't warning about the new /etc/default/stunnel file > introduced in package (thereis a note in README.Debian and in chan

Re: Debconf or not debconf

2003-07-02 Thread Mark Brown
On Tue, Jul 01, 2003 at 08:40:02PM -0500, Steve Langasek wrote: > It does not belong in debconf. Put it in the changelog -- users who > want to know what's changing on their system should be looking there > anyway, and tools such as apt-listchanges make it easier and ever to > access changelog in

Re: Debconf or not debconf

2003-07-02 Thread Mark Brown
On Wed, Jul 02, 2003 at 07:52:10PM +1000, Herbert Xu wrote: > Mark Brown <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: > > What makes you think that a debconf note is inappropriate for this? It > > appears to be quite a common thing to do and seems helpful. > Just because lots of people a

Re: Gnome2 in sarge

2003-07-03 Thread Mark Howard
On Wed, 02 Jul 2003 13:21:26 -0300, Daniel Ruoso wrote: > I didn't see any noise in debian-devel see debian-gtk-gnome -- .''`. Mark Howard : :' : `. `' http://www.tildemh.com `- [EMAIL PROTECTED] | [EMAIL PROTECTED] | [EMAIL PROTECTED]

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