Re: Gentoo guys starting a fork of udev

2012-11-19 Thread Kevin Toppins
bably some lessons why, and that is what some of the people here are trying to get you to see. -Kev On 19 November 2012 04:23, John Paul Adrian Glaubitz wrote: > Hello Kevin, > > On Sun, Nov 18, 2012 at 09:51:22PM -0600, Kevin Toppins wrote: >> Just because something is very old, d

Re: Gentoo guys starting a fork of udev

2012-11-20 Thread Kevin Toppins
> Me too, please read: > http://catb.org/jargon/html/T/top-post.html Oh crap, my apologies. I honestly forgot that the reply was still at the bottom of my email. I did not intentionally leave it there. It certainly wasn't some passive-aggressive kind of post-reply, I do apologize for it being t

systemd

2012-11-21 Thread Kevin Toppins
> Sadly it is obvious from the rest of this message that you are not up > to speed on the topic here. If you want to usefully contribute to the > topic, at a very least you should familiarise yourself with the prior > threads about systemd to debian-devel. At a very, bare-minimum least. > It would

Re: Systemd

2012-11-21 Thread Kevin Toppins
Thu, 22 Nov 2012 12:56:09 +0800 from Chow Loong Jin > > -> What role is systemd designed to facilitate? > > An init daemon. But why don't you ask yourself -- what role(s) should an init > daemon play anyway? Thank you. Everyone raising a fuss and not many seeing the focus I am trying to dir

systemd and Linux are *fundamentally incompatible* -> and I can prove it

2014-03-24 Thread Kevin Toppins
To all debian developers: -> systemd is *fundamentally incompatible* with linux Now, I realize that's a bold claim, but if you are up for some reading, I will prove it. First -> a little history just to put this into a context that's easier to follow Over a year ago (Nov 2012), I tried to *

Re: systemd and Linux are *fundamentally incompatible* -> and I can prove it

2014-03-25 Thread Kevin Toppins
On 25 March 2014 08:54, Federico Di Gregorio wrote: [...] > Lots of asterisks won't make a point. The asterisks are there to specifically focus your attention on those words. Because -> I find that if I don't use them -> people tend to misread what I write (or more so at least) -Kev -- To UN

Re: systemd and Linux are *fundamentally incompatible* -> and I can prove it

2014-03-25 Thread Kevin Toppins
On 25 March 2014 11:25, William Unruh wrote: [...] > And if they are there, together with all the boldfacing, people tend to > think that you are a complete kook. So you makes your choices... Okay, my apologies. I am not very experienced with lists and the expectations that run within them. Her

Re: systemd and Linux are *fundamentally incompatible* -> and I can prove it

2014-03-25 Thread Kevin Toppins
On Tuesday, March 25, 2014 11:40:02 AM UTC-5, Jonathan Dowland wrote: > I was very proud of my fellow colleagues for not feeding the troll a > full 24 hours later. Thanks for breaking the record :( Jonathan we've been through this before. -> https://lists.debian.org/debian-devel/2012/11/msg

Re: stop posting useless cruft and get to work (systemd and Linux are *fundamentally incompatible* -> and I can prove it)

2014-03-26 Thread Kevin Toppins
On 26 March 2014 05:40, Thomas Goirand wrote: [...] > If you want thing to move on, stop posting useless messages, and start > working on alternatives. For example, helping adding more features to > OpenRC would certainly help a way more than this post. I am going to have to respectfully disagre

Re: stop posting useless cruft and get to work (systemd and Linux are *fundamentally incompatible* -> and I can prove it)

2014-03-26 Thread Kevin Toppins
On 26 March 2014 10:13, Cameron Norman wrote: [...] > That is pretty much impossible, according to the developers of the logind > API and its single implementation. Perhaps a subset of the logind API for > use by desktop environments / compositors would be more useful in this init > and OS portabi

Re: stop posting useless cruft and get to work (systemd and Linux are *fundamentally incompatible* -> and I can prove it)

2014-03-26 Thread Kevin Toppins
On 26 March 2014 13:42, Shachar Shemesh wrote: [...] > As far as the systemd vs. upstart discussion, I was leaning in upstart (more > precisely, against systemd). As such, your email was very interesting to me. > Unfortunately, it was unreadable. You said you'll start with background, but > instea

Re: stop posting useless cruft and get to work (systemd and Linux are *fundamentally incompatible* -> and I can prove it)

2014-03-27 Thread Kevin Toppins
On 26 Mar 2014 12:30, Matthias Urlichs wrote: [...] > > But here is the vastly oversimplified technical argument... > > > To the point of being neither technical nor valid. > (Which admittedly was never in doubt even before I started reading.) What do you consider technical? Vastly oversimplifie

Re: stop posting useless cruft and get to work (systemd and Linux are *fundamentally incompatible* -> and I can prove it)

2014-03-28 Thread Kevin Toppins
On 28 Mar 2014 03:40, Olav Vitters wrote: [...] > > I can tell you right now, it is *vastly more difficult* to try to > > adapt programs modified to work with systemd in their current state, > > than it is to *revert* those programs to their pre-systemd state. > > You're so certain while so utterly