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Re: ppp's ip-{up,down} and possible utilization of 'run-parts'

1997-12-16 Thread john
f. Otherwise it will be rather inconvenient for people who don't always connect to the same server, or who use ppp as a poor man's LAN, as I do. -- John Hasler [EMAIL PROTECTED] (John Hasler) Dancing Horse Hill Elmwood, WI -- TO UNSUBSCRIBE FROM THIS MAILING LIST: e-mail the word "un

Re: ppp's ip-{up,down} and possible utilization of 'run-parts'

1997-12-16 Thread john
nverting to pap? No point in putting a lot of work into dealing with chatscripts if they are going away soon. Does mschap require any special user configuration? -- John Hasler [EMAIL PROTECTED] (John Hasler) Dancing Horse Hill Elmwood, WI -- TO UNSUBSCRIBE FROM THIS MAILING LIST: e-mail the wor

Re: ppp's ip-{up,down} and possible utilization of 'run-parts'

1997-12-17 Thread john
o get a script working a great deal of frustration. -- John HaslerThis posting is in the public domain. [EMAIL PROTECTED] Do with it what you will. Dancing Horse Hill Make money from it if you can; I don't mind. Elmwood, Wisconsin Do not send e

Re: potential mayhem with trial libc6 package and kernel-headers

1997-12-20 Thread john
. I suggest you change the message to: Please remove or rename /usr/src/linux-$version and try to reconfigure $package. Telling the user that she must remove it may be confusing. -- John Hasler [EMAIL PROTECTED] (John Hasler) Dancing Horse Hill Elmwood, WI -- TO UNSUBSCRIBE FROM

Re: what is Debian's mailing address?

1997-12-21 Thread john
authoritative source. I've already supplied a phone number. I can do so again. > * Any other mechanism by which you can establish your real-life identity with > reasonable certainty. Property tax statements, sales tax license, just tell me where to send the copies. -- John

Re: Mopac - public domain

1997-12-22 Thread john
a US statute. As you are outside the US you could ignore it, though it would be discourteous not to give credit. -- John Hasler [EMAIL PROTECTED] (John Hasler) Dancing Horse Hill Elmwood, WI -- TO UNSUBSCRIBE FROM THIS MAILING LIST: e-mail the word "unsubscribe" to [EMAIL PROTECTED]

Re: Mopac - public domain

1997-12-24 Thread john
tatute? Not that I know of, but IANAL. However, I'm fairly sure that 17 U.S.C. # 105 does deny them copyright. Thus, their "nonsense license" is unenforceable. -- John HaslerThis posting is in the public domain. [EMAIL PROTECTED] Do with it what y

Re: on forming a new Linux Distribution

1998-04-30 Thread john
ing I had in mind when I wrote pppconfig. -- John Hasler [EMAIL PROTECTED] (John Hasler) Dancing Horse Hill Elmwood, WI -- To UNSUBSCRIBE, email to [EMAIL PROTECTED] with a subject of "unsubscribe". Trouble? Contact [EMAIL PROTECTED]

Re: ppp: how to tell the connection speed?

1998-05-02 Thread john
Debian. I'm afraid I don't have any suggestions for you, but I would appreciate it if you would let me know what the solution is when you find it. -- John Hasler [EMAIL PROTECTED] (John Hasler) Dancing Horse Hill Elmwood, WI -- To UNSUBSCRIBE, email to [EMAIL PROTECTED] with a subject of "unsubscribe". Trouble? Contact [EMAIL PROTECTED]

Re: ppp: how to tell the connection speed?

1998-05-02 Thread john
#x27;CONNECT' string. > Note the above log fragment. My ZOOM modem reports Carrier > before it reports the CONNECT. The guy I'm corresponding with sees *only* 'CARRIER '. -- John Hasler [EMAIL PROTECTED] (John Hasler) Dancing Horse Hill Elmwood, WI -- To UNSUBSCRIBE

Re: ppp: how to tell the connection speed?

1998-05-03 Thread john
nd out if this is common enough that pppconfig needs to provide for it. -- John Hasler [EMAIL PROTECTED] (John Hasler) Dancing Horse Hill Elmwood, WI -- To UNSUBSCRIBE, email to [EMAIL PROTECTED] with a subject of "unsubscribe". Trouble? Contact [EMAIL PROTECTED]

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Avoiding systemd

2014-05-10 Thread John
After following the discussions of systemd (including everything on debian-devel), I find myself appalled at the rude and domineering attitudes of almost all systemd's defenders. I don't trust them. Accordingly, I'd like to keep systemd off my machine (sid) to the extent practical until things

Re: VI reasons (was Re: Base Set: Suggested additions & removals.)

1998-06-10 Thread john
e rescue disk, as long as it starts up when the user types vi. It probably also should answer to 'ed', 'edit', 'editor', and as many other editor names as we can think of. Put in a splash screen explaining the situation and the user will thank you for the opportun

Re: Stop vi discussion

1998-06-15 Thread john
files, anything will do. Anything *small*, that is. -- John Hasler [EMAIL PROTECTED] (John Hasler) Dancing Horse Hill Elmwood, WI -- To UNSUBSCRIBE, email to [EMAIL PROTECTED] with a subject of "unsubscribe". Trouble? Contact [EMAIL PROTECTED]

Re: Stop vi discussion

1998-06-15 Thread john
I wrote: > Vi and emacs should be able to use any editor. That should read 'Vi and emacs users should be able to use any editor.' ^ I can't get my wife to try anything but vi, though. -- John Hasler [EMAIL PROTECTED] (John Hasler) Dancing Hors

Re: Copyrights and licenses

1998-10-02 Thread john
Ian Lynagh writes: > So is it free or non-free? If the algorithm isn't patented you can do what ever you want with it, regardless of what the inventor says. -- John HaslerThis posting is in the public domain. [EMAIL PROTECTED] Do with it what you will.

Re: PGP in the US (Re: formal documents)

1998-10-04 Thread john
Kikutani Makoto writes: > I'm a Japanese living in the United States, but not a permanent > resident. I've heared that the usage of PGP in the States by a person > like me is controversial. You heard wrong. Your nationality and residency status is irrelevant. -- John Hasler

Re: PGP in the US (Re: formal documents)

1998-10-04 Thread john
long as he does not take it with him when he goes home. -- John HaslerThis posting is in the public domain. [EMAIL PROTECTED] Do with it what you will. Dancing Horse Hill Make money from it if you can; I don't mind. Elmwood, Wisconsin D

Re: PGP in the US (Re: formal documents)

1998-10-04 Thread john
I gave up it > because the PGP problem is not clear. Don't export it and you are safe from the US Government. Don't use pgp-i in the US and you are safe from PKP. -- John HaslerThis posting is in the public domain. [EMAIL PROTECTED] Do with i

Re: PGP in the US (Re: formal documents)

1998-10-05 Thread john
w, but the person helping > you use PGP. If the person you give the 'munition' to exports it, you may be prosecuted if the Government thinks that you had reason to believe that he might do so. Him being a non-resident alien is considered such a reason. However, if he does not expo

Re: PGP in the US (Re: formal documents)

1998-10-05 Thread john
had to deal with this idiocy back in the eighties when I was building computers which may have qualified as 'munitions'. -- John Hasler [EMAIL PROTECTED] (John Hasler) Dancing Horse Hill Elmwood, WI

Re: Re: Linus is on a powertrip..

1998-10-05 Thread john
ed by a third party for the actions of another developer. -- John Hasler [EMAIL PROTECTED] (John Hasler) Dancing Horse Hill Elmwood, WI

Re: what's after slink

1998-10-05 Thread john
Matthew writes: > How about naming it [Debian releases] after species of penguin? *Excellent* idea. I suppose it's too late to rename 2.1? -- John Hasler [EMAIL PROTECTED] (John Hasler) Dancing Horse Hill Elmwood, WI

Re: APT 0.1.6 is released!

1998-10-07 Thread john
ds on B and C and upload it along with B and C. Anyone who upgrades and has A will get it upgraded to A_1.0-0.2, which will pull in B and C. No one else ever needs to know that A ever existed. After a release or two you remove A from the distribution. -- John HaslerThis postin

Re: APT 0.1.6 is released!

1998-10-07 Thread john
I would want to keep them around. B and C were together in A because someone once thought they belonged together. It is likely that others will think similarly, or just remember 'A' from bo and go looking for it in emperor. This scheme gives them what they expect. Think of these as a

Re: Contacting authors

1998-10-08 Thread john
it not be used without consulting the author. If it is not used mail to the author should go to the maintainer instead of bouncing. -- John Hasler [EMAIL PROTECTED] (John Hasler) Dancing Horse Hill Elmwood, WI

Re: mpg123 contains GPL code?

1998-10-10 Thread john
Joseph Carter writes: > mpg123 is non-free all right. No commercial use. The author needs to be > contacted and asked to either replace the GPL code or change his license > to be compatible with the GPL code he's using. The author of the GPL code also should be notified. -

Re: intent to remove libglide from non-free

1998-10-10 Thread john
ietary commercial software and if it is on any Debian servers it must be removed *immediately*. No waiting to see if they might change the license. It must be removed *now*. -- John Hasler [EMAIL PROTECTED] (John Hasler) Dancing Horse Hill Elmwood, WI

Re: intent to remove libglide from non-free

1998-10-11 Thread john
Edward Betts writes: > This is a new licence on a new version that has NOT been uploaded. That was not clear to me. -- John Hasler [EMAIL PROTECTED] (John Hasler) Dancing Horse Hill Elmwood, WI

Re: LICENSES [was: Re: Have you seen this?]

1998-10-12 Thread john
ns "contains a copy of all or part of". Copyright is about making copies. -- John HaslerThis posting is in the public domain. [EMAIL PROTECTED] Do with it what you will. Dancing Horse Hill Make money from it if you can; I don't mind. Elmwood, Wisconsin Do not send email advertisements to this address.

Re: GPL source policy.

1998-10-12 Thread john
else? >From the moment the vendor transferred ownership of the specific copy in question. -- John Hasler [EMAIL PROTECTED] (John Hasler) Dancing Horse Hill Elmwood, WI

Re: KDE gone, Linux next ?

1998-10-13 Thread john
not sure how Linus could or couldn't prevent it, unless > I'm missing something. I don't see that you are. The user installs the binary-only driver for his MegaThumper sound card from the CD that came with it or from MegaCorp's web site: what does that have to do with us o

Re: KDE gone, Linux next?

1998-10-14 Thread john
Matthew Parry writes: > Why give them the option to release closed source when we can force them > to release free versions? I don't believe we can. -- John HaslerThis posting is in the public domain. [EMAIL PROTECTED] Do with it what you will. Dancing

Re: moving mutt-i from non-us to main

1998-10-15 Thread john
amount of crap we'll take from these jerks. Ignore the nonsense about 'hooks' and ship it. -- John HaslerThis posting is in the public domain. [EMAIL PROTECTED] Do with it what you will. Dancing Horse Hill Make money from it if you can;

Re: octave-plplot: intention to package

1998-10-16 Thread john
pyright treaty. It is meaningless under the Berne convention. It does no harm here since the subsequent license clearly supersedes it, but it is confusing and should not be used. -- John HaslerThis posting is in the public domain. [EMAIL PROTECTED] Do with it

Re: moving mutt-i from non-us to main

1998-10-17 Thread john
having to defend himself legally would pretty much ruin him > financially. I think he'd find people standing line to defend him for free. > I think we should respect the author's wishes... Yes. Perhaps we should ask what they are? -- John Hasler [EMAIL PROTECTED] (John Hasler) Dancing Horse Hill Elmwood, WI

Re: moving mutt-i from non-us to main

1998-10-17 Thread john
ion (Thomas Roessler) > have to do with us (Debian) offering their program on our US ftp > servers. IMHO only those people are responsible for export from US to the > free world, who put it on the FTP servers without restriction. -- John Hasler [EMAIL PROTECTED] (John Hasler) Dancing Horse Hill Elmwood, WI

Re: mutt

1998-10-17 Thread john
moving any other software that is non-us because of encryption hooks out of non-us. -- John Hasler [EMAIL PROTECTED] (John Hasler) Dancing Horse Hill Elmwood, WI

Re: What Bruce had to say about non-Pixar names. Re: what's after slink

1998-10-17 Thread john
Joey writes: > Do you want us to hurry up in order to catch up with the new 'whole > bunch' of code names? I'd still like to use penguins. -- John HaslerThis posting is in the public domain. [EMAIL PROTECTED] Do with it what you wil

Re: moving mutt-i from non-us to main

1998-10-17 Thread john
Bart Schuller writes: > Has anything changed since then, or do we have a too short collective > memory? I had always assumed that everything in non-us contained encryption code, as do the few things in it that I have actually used. -- John HaslerThis posting is in the

Bug#829076: general: Random freezes but the mouse can still move

2016-06-30 Thread John
Package: general Severity: grave Justification: causes non-serious data loss I'm running the current 64-bit Debian with the Cinnamon desktop and have been experiencing 'freezes' for about a month now. The mouse still moves around but clicking on any window produces no response. However right-cl

Re: Subversion / swig1.3

2004-10-26 Thread John Lenz
unctionality, and avoid a whole bunch of potential bugs. John

Re: Problem with dpkg on alpha ?

2004-11-01 Thread John Goerzen
I've seen that on the buildd but my own Alpha isn't having any trouble. A message on this topic to debian-alpha yielded no replies either, so I suspect the buildd machine is the only one hosed. -- John On Mon, Nov 01, 2004 at 07:42:01PM +0100, Jean-Yves LENHOF wrote: > Is'

Re: GPL and command-line libraries

2004-11-02 Thread John Hasler
investment of effort you can invest a similar small amount of effort in writing a Free version of his client and include it with your library, thus destroying his market. -- John Hasler

Re: GPL and command-line libraries

2004-11-02 Thread John Hasler
Måns Rullgård writes: > Actually, copyright law talks a great deal about derivative works, > without ever going to the trouble of defining them... The US statute does so, but US case law defines them fairly well. -- John Hasler

Re: remove me from call*wave

2004-11-09 Thread John Hasler
Henning Makholm writes: > I still wonder what the people posting here are thinking, though. Probably the same thing as the one who emailed me personally (cc'ing debian-user) asking for help with his "AO*L a*rt fi*le" problem. -- John Hasler

Re: Bug#283578: ITP: hot-babe -- erotic graphical system activity monitor

2004-12-01 Thread John Goerzen
to build an > operating system. I think. You are quite right. We cannot fight all battles for everyone. Let's make an operating system. -- John

Re: Bug#283578: ITP: hot-babe -- erotic graphical system activity monitor

2004-12-01 Thread John Goerzen
On Wed, Dec 01, 2004 at 05:53:08PM -0600, Manoj Srivastava wrote: > On Wed, 1 Dec 2004 23:32:18 +, Will Newton <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> said: > And we have no time to set up i judgement over content -- > there is a clear criteria for inclusion of packages in Debian already. We have no need

Re: Bug#283578: ITP: hot-babe -- erotic graphical system activitymonitor

2004-12-01 Thread John Hasler
William Ballard writes: > After all, we have Christian Syria and Christian Lebanon out of it. There were Christians in Syria and Lebanon _long_ before the Crusades. -- John Hasler

Re: Bug#283578: ITP: hot-babe -- erotic graphical system activity monitor

2004-12-02 Thread John Goerzen
On Thu, Dec 02, 2004 at 01:30:48AM -0600, Manoj Srivastava wrote: > On Wed, 1 Dec 2004 19:34:06 -0600, John Goerzen <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> said: > > > On Wed, Dec 01, 2004 at 05:53:08PM -0600, Manoj Srivastava wrote: > >> On Wed, 1 Dec 2004 23:32:18 +, Will Newton &g

Re: Bug#283578: ITP: hot-babe -- erotic graphical system activity monitor

2004-12-02 Thread John Goerzen
On Thu, Dec 02, 2004 at 01:32:26AM -0600, Manoj Srivastava wrote: > On Wed, 1 Dec 2004 19:03:59 -0600, John Goerzen <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> said: > > > You are quite right. We cannot fight all battles for everyone. > > > Let's make an operating system. > >

Re: Bug#283578: ITP: hot-babe -- erotic graphical system activity monitor

2004-12-02 Thread John Goerzen
rst place. Saying "we're already doing this" is completely irrelevant to the question "is it right". -- John

Re: Bug#283578: ITP: hot-babe -- erotic graphical system activitymonitor

2004-12-02 Thread John Goerzen
On Thu, Dec 02, 2004 at 01:48:09AM -0600, Manoj Srivastava wrote: > Who gets to decide for each case? Usually it is the person who The ftpmasters, for starters. > does the work who makes the decision -- the packager, in this > case. The only way to override that is call in the tech ctte -

Re: Bug#283578: ITP: hot-babe -- erotic graphical system activitymonitor

2004-12-02 Thread John Goerzen
and users from everywhere. But at the same time, we don't have to accept images from everywhere nor any developer that knocks at our door. This is not our fight. Let's fight for Free Software, and let others battle this one out. -- John

Re: Bug#283578: ITP: hot-babe -- erotic graphical system activitymonitor

2004-12-02 Thread John Goerzen
me criteria for packages to > pass in order to be accepted which includes issues like these and is > clear enough that our users understand it. Indeed, and this is also why Manoj's vi/KDE argument is not relevant. vi serves a useful purpose for an operating system. Porn/nudes/whatever don't. -- John

Re: Bug#283578: ITP: hot-babe -- erotic graphical system activitymonitor

2004-12-02 Thread John Goerzen
On Fri, Dec 03, 2004 at 01:04:50AM +0900, Mike Hommey wrote: > On Thu, Dec 02, 2004 at 09:03:18AM -0600, John Goerzen <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> > wrote: > > Indeed, and this is also why Manoj's vi/KDE argument is not relevant. > > > > vi serves a useful purpose for

Re: Bug#283578: ITP: hot-babe -- erotic graphical system activitymonitor

2004-12-02 Thread John Goerzen
A CPU monitor does. How the load is displayed, line graph, > dancing bars, color changes, morphing pictures, is a preference > issue. Red herring. Nobody objects to the CPU monitor itself. The objection lies with the included image, not with the code. Remove that image and I don't think there'd be any complaint. -- John

Re: Bug#283578: ITP: hot-babe -- erotic graphical system activitymonitor

2004-12-02 Thread John Goerzen
, then let us just replace the image and be done with it. Or do you claim that aesthetics has no utliity? -- John

Re: Bug#283578: ITP: hot-babe -- erotic graphical system activitymonitor

2004-12-02 Thread John Hasler
William Ballard writes: > The Bible should be in Debian. But the Koran, the Torah, and the Vishnu > texts (name escapes me at the moment) should all be in there too. Debian is not Project Gutenberg. Debian is about _software_. -- John Hasler

Re: Bug#283578: ITP: hot-babe -- erotic graphical system activitymonitor

2004-12-02 Thread John Hasler
Debian". And while I do not object to bible (or koran, or devil-worship) software, I think that saying that it _should_ be in Debian is excessive. Debian can do very well without religious software. This is obscure specialty stuff. -- John Hasler

Re: Bug#283578: ITP: hot-babe -- erotic graphical system activitymonitor

2004-12-03 Thread John Goerzen
On Fri, Dec 03, 2004 at 07:45:26PM +, Will Newton wrote: > On Friday 03 Dec 2004 00:11, Manoj Srivastava wrote: > > > Umm, the linux kernel, the purity tests, and the offensive > > fortunes are not G rated, so can't be given to minors without > > parental consent. I guess that makes it ille

Re: Bug#284219: please remove gnu-standards

2004-12-04 Thread John Hasler
Glenn Maynard writes: > gnu-standards is obviously unlikely to be relicensed, and can't be > rewritten Of course it could be rewritten (though a rewrite should be retitled). Standards are ideas, not expression. -- John Hasler

Re: Debian package selection depending on user location/belief/society

2004-12-06 Thread John Hasler
Philippe De Swert writes: > I am just wondering if it is not the responabilty of the actual Debian > user not to violate his local laws. Of course it is. Unfortunately, governments don't generally agree. -- John Hasler

Re: SVG icons

2004-12-09 Thread John Hasler
mean "you can leave this out if you want to". It might be best to not use it at all as it seems to engender some confusion. Note also that the RFC says the the imperatives it defines should be used sparingly. -- John Hasler

Re: Linux Core Consortium

2004-12-09 Thread John Hasler
t reason alone. I also haven't seen a convincing argument that they are beneficial. Why don't standard ABIs suffice? -- John Hasler

Re: Linux Core Consortium

2004-12-09 Thread John Hasler
x27;s to say that some program isn't relying on the former (buggy) > operation of the library? How could the program do that without being buggy itself? -- John Hasler

Re: Linux Core Consortium

2004-12-09 Thread John Goerzen
e mention that we could participate in this organization even if we didn't take their packages? That is, perhaps we could influence the direction to a more useful one? If that is the case, it seems zero risk to me. -- John

Bug#285274: ITP: libvisual -- abstraction library for visualization plugins

2004-12-12 Thread John Lightsey
Package: wnpp Severity: wishlist * Package name: libvisual Version : 0.2.0 Upstream Author : Dennis Smit et al <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> * URL : http://libvisual.sourceforge.net/V2/index.php * License : LGPL Description : abstraction library for visualization p

Re: Obfuscated source

2004-12-12 Thread John Hasler
Andi writes: > "preferred form for modification" is _only_ a GPL-term and not part of > the SC. The SC is not a legal document. Common sense should suffice to conclude that obfuscated source does not comply with the DFSG. -- John Hasler

Re: add Date: field to Packages files

2004-12-12 Thread John Hasler
Stephen Gran writes: > You have the changelogs. Use them. The changelogs are in the Packages file? -- John Hasler

Re: Why firmware generally won't be Free Software

2004-12-13 Thread John Hasler
verything that differentiates this guy from his competitors may be in the embedded code. -- John Hasler

Re: removing in postrm rc*.d symlinks that I did not create

2004-12-15 Thread John Hasler
Nicolas writes: > I already thought about it, but I fnind it quite confusing when I cannot > run /etc/init.d/foobar by hand as soon as it is not enabled on startup. Your script should check $PRERUNLEVEL. It will be N if you are booting. -- John Hasler

Re: removing in postrm rc*.d symlinks that I did not create

2004-12-15 Thread John Hasler
I wrote: > Your script should check $PRERUNLEVEL. It will be N if you are booting. That should be $PREVLEVEL. -- John Hasler

Re: The LCC is a bad idea, but that doesn't mean the LSB doesn't have any issues

2004-12-16 Thread John Goerzen
gt; Software people". Very well written, Wouter. Thanks. One other possibility -- and I don't know if it's true or not -- is that the organization working on LSB is itself the problem. -- John

Re: removing in postrm rc*.d symlinks that I did not create

2004-12-16 Thread John Hasler
. If you also want to prevent the service from being started on a runlevel change you have to do something else such as checking $0. -- John Hasler

Re: removing in postrm rc*.d symlinks that I did not create

2004-12-16 Thread John Hasler
I wrote: > If you also want to prevent the service from being started on a runlevel > change you have to do something else such as checking $0. Init exports RUNLEVEL, PREVLEVEL, and INIT_VERSION. Thus INIT_VERSION will be set if you are booting or changing runlevels. -- John Hasler

Re: dependancy issues

2005-01-02 Thread John Hasler
Josselin Mouette writes: > Why in the world would you then want to install a metapackage if its > selection doesn't suit you? Most users do not understand meta-packages. They decide to "run Gnome" rather than "run KDE" and so they install Gnome. -- John Hasler

Re: partial patches - server application

2005-01-06 Thread John Hasler
Thiemo Seufer writes: > I haven't found an -f option in diff. Look at the info docs. -- John Hasler

Re: scripts to download porn in Debian?

2005-02-02 Thread John Hasler
y a miniscule fraction of Web pages are Free. I guess that puts Firefox in contrib. -- John Hasler -- To UNSUBSCRIBE, email to [EMAIL PROTECTED] with a subject of "unsubscribe". Trouble? Contact [EMAIL PROTECTED]

Bug#293510: ITP: missingpy -- Python interface and libraries for Haskell

2005-02-03 Thread John Goerzen
Package: wnpp Severity: wishlist Owner: John Goerzen <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> * Package name: missingpy Version : 0.1.0 Upstream Author : John Goerzen <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> * URL : Not yet * License : GPL Description : Python interface and libraries

Re: what is /.udev for ?

2005-02-10 Thread John Hasler
Norbert Tretkowski writes: > There's no label saying "if you don't like these wires, remove them". And cars never grow unwanted wires. -- John Hasler -- To UNSUBSCRIBE, email to [EMAIL PROTECTED] with a subject of "unsubscribe". Trouble? Contact [EMAIL PROTECTED]

Re: what is /.udev for ?

2005-02-10 Thread John Hasler
ot thinking straight. Rm is the tool that we provide for removing things. -- John Hasler -- To UNSUBSCRIBE, email to [EMAIL PROTECTED] with a subject of "unsubscribe". Trouble? Contact [EMAIL PROTECTED]

Re: what is /.udev for ?

2005-02-10 Thread John Hasler
emselves on we should try to blunt the sharp edges a bit, if possible. -- John Hasler -- To UNSUBSCRIBE, email to [EMAIL PROTECTED] with a subject of "unsubscribe". Trouble? Contact [EMAIL PROTECTED]

Bug#294818: ITP: haskelldb -- Haskell library for expressing database queries and operations

2005-02-11 Thread John Goerzen
Package: wnpp Severity: wishlist * Package name: haskelldb Version : 0.9 + cvs Upstream Author : Daan Leijen and the HaskellDB development team * URL : haskelldb.sf.net * License : 3BSD Description : Haskell library for expressing database queries and ope

Re: First line in /etc/hosts

2005-02-13 Thread John Hasler
writing Linux programs don't.) -- John Hasler -- To UNSUBSCRIBE, email to [EMAIL PROTECTED] with a subject of "unsubscribe". Trouble? Contact [EMAIL PROTECTED]

Re: Bug#295328: general: Help messages to stderr should be banned

2005-02-14 Thread John Hasler
Justin Pryzby writes: > It occurs to me that help output to stderr is arguably appropriate if an > invalid option is given But '--help' is not an invalid option. I'll have to check my packages. -- John Hasler -- To UNSUBSCRIBE, email to [EMAIL PROTECTED] with a su

Re: Bug#295328: general: Help messages to stderr should be banned

2005-02-15 Thread John Hasler
Francesco P. Lovergine writes: > It depends on programs, sometimes the same usage function is used for > either --help or invalid options. Sure, but the output should still be directed correctly. -- John Hasler -- To UNSUBSCRIBE, email to [EMAIL PROTECTED] with a subject of "

Re: "The Debian exim 4 packages suck badly" on exim-users@exim.org

2005-02-17 Thread John Hasler
William Ballard writes: > The exim4 config asks you if you want itty bitty or one monolothic config > file. It offers you the option of doing it the upstream way. Does it tell you which is the upstream way? Most new users won't know. -- John Hasler -- To UNSUBSCRIBE, emai

Re: "The Debian exim 4 packages suck badly" on exim-users@exim.org

2005-02-17 Thread John Hasler
fferent from > upstream's. I have made similar changes, but I also patched the documentation. Many DDs do not do so, confusing users. -- John Hasler -- To UNSUBSCRIBE, email to [EMAIL PROTECTED] with a subject of "unsubscribe". Trouble? Contact [EMAIL PROTECTED]

Re: "The Debian exim 4 packages suck badly" on exim-users@exim.org

2005-02-17 Thread John Hasler
gs are flags for the debconf package configuration system which should have been run during installation at which point it would have set up the config for you after asking you some questions. Either there is a bug or you did something strange. -- John Hasler -- To UNSUBSCRIBE, email to

Re: "The Debian exim 4 packages suck badly" on exim-users@exim.org

2005-02-20 Thread John Hasler
alter my email configuration. At least make enabling the change a Debconf question. -- John Hasler -- To UNSUBSCRIBE, email to [EMAIL PROTECTED] with a subject of "unsubscribe". Trouble? Contact [EMAIL PROTECTED]

md5 checksum errors in several packages

2005-02-21 Thread John O'Sullivan
Hi all, I have a local mirror of sarge here at work for making custom install cds. My mirror is a copy of the mirror at heanet (ftp.ie.debian.org). I have noticed incorrect checksums on 8 packages and I am posting the details here in case this is a serious problem. Hopefully someone more knowle

Re: md5 checksum errors in several packages

2005-02-21 Thread John O'Sullivan
Ben Armstrong wrote: I question, then, the integrity of ftp.ie.debian.org or your own mirror. Just checking one of my own packages, I obtained a copy from my local mirror, and this is the result: $ extract -H md5 xpilot-client-nosound_4.5.5beta.20031222-1_i386.deb MD5 - 3cfe83e6a25995d17d568737c3c

Re: md5 checksum errors in several packages

2005-02-21 Thread John O'Sullivan
Thats pretty much what the guy in HEAnet just said to me but the length of the files is the same. He says that the tcp checksums aren't accurate enough for 100% correctness. I'm emailing him some details now. cheers, johno Ben Armstrong wrote: John, Have you considered the possibilit

Re: md5 checksum errors in several packages

2005-02-21 Thread John O'Sullivan
Sorry for the false alarm. Those files were only corrupted. HEAnet have resynced them now and all is good. Sorry for wasting ppls time. johno -- To UNSUBSCRIBE, email to [EMAIL PROTECTED] with a subject of "unsubscribe". Trouble? Contact [EMAIL PROTECTED]

Re: Let's remove mips, mipsel, s390, ...

2005-02-21 Thread John Hasler
Brian Nelson writes: > That's an overstatement. Simply having two architectures (i386 and ppc) > would be enough to reveal nearly all portability bugs. It required several architectures to uncover all of the portability bugs in Chrony. ppc was not one of them. -- John Hasl

Re: Cross-compiling and dist-cc

2005-02-22 Thread John Hasler
_for_ _the_ _same_ _target_ _architecture_ and then compare the binaries. I don't see why they should differ. -- John Hasler -- To UNSUBSCRIBE, email to [EMAIL PROTECTED] with a subject of "unsubscribe". Trouble? Contact [EMAIL PROTECTED]

FW: A Call to Action in OASIS

2005-02-22 Thread John Goerzen
pport. We will forward your comments to the proper authorities at OASIS. If we stand united in opposition to this unacceptable patent policy, we can persuade OASIS to change it. /signed/ Lawrence Rosen Bruce Perens Richard Stallman Lawrence Lessig Eben Moglen Marten Mickos John Weathersby John

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