`binary' target and per-architecture rebuilding

1996-08-22 Thread Ian Jackson
In order to solve some tricky problems to do with architecture-independent files being produced and uploaded as a result of per-architecture porting builds, I'm splitting the `binary' target into two: binary-arch will build the architecture dependent binary packages and files. For a straightforwa

Consensus is for compressed manpages

1996-08-22 Thread Ian Jackson
Further to this discussion, I'm going to write into the policy manual that manpages should be installed compressed using gzip -9. Ian.

copyright files in /usr/doc//copyright

1996-08-22 Thread Ian Jackson
Since we need closure on this I'm mandating this change in the new policy manual and source package format. I'll also mandate that the debian/changelog file be included, in /usr/doc//changelog.Debian.gz, or changelog.gz for a package whose upstream and Debian maintainers are the same. Ian.

Re: Documentation formats

1996-08-22 Thread Ian Jackson
Mark Eichin writes ("Re: Documentation formats"): > [Ian asked:] > > (Is texi2html any good?) > > http://www.cygnus.com/ (and I'm sure other places) has texi2html'ed > versions of gnu compiler-related tools, if you want a quick look at > them. Thanks. They do look reasonable. Ian.

Re: CC's on this mailing list

1996-08-22 Thread Ian Jackson
Dale Scheetz writes ("Re: CC's on this mailing list"): ... > However, there are several people who post to the lists, but don't read > them, who ask to be responded to directly. Maybe we should just require > that these people suffer reading the lists like the rest of us? Yes. It is rude to post

Re: Documentation formats

1996-08-22 Thread Ian Jackson
Mark Eichin writes ("Re: Documentation formats"): > if we standardize the names for the alternate formats, can we also > have, for each format foo, a virtual foo-viewer package, and include > it in the dependencies? (That will, as a side effect, make it easier > to determine which formats are supp

Re: New virtual package names.

1996-08-22 Thread Ian Jackson
Dale Scheetz writes ("Re: New virtual package names. "): > On Fri, 9 Aug 1996, Ian Jackson wrote: ... > > Noone is going to deinstall all the editors on their system and not > > notice what they've done wrong and how to fix it - this is not the > > kind of `m

Re: New package standards - LAST CALL

1996-08-22 Thread Ian Jackson
Michael Alan Dorman writes ("Re: New package standards - LAST CALL "): > In message <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>, Ian Jackson writes: > >Therefore I propose that unless someone raises a serious problem or > >issue within the next week or two the new packaging guidelines as

Re: $(ARCH)-debian-linux-gnu

1996-08-22 Thread Ian Jackson
Erick Branderhorst writes ("$(ARCH)-debian-linux-gnu"): > Should we use $(ARCH)-debian-linux-gnu as parameter for ./configure > and $(ARCH)-debian-linux? > > If so can it specified in the guidelines. > If not what should we use? $(ARCH)-debian-linux, but $(ARCH) should usually be 486, shouldn't

Re: Non-existent .deb's

1996-08-22 Thread Ian Jackson
Daniel Lynes writes ("Non-existent .deb's"): > Just a thought, but I was wondering if perhaps the dselect program > could be modified to allow for it to not allow you to be able to select > .deb archives that are non-existent? I've noticed that for the .deb > archives that I haven't downloaded, th

Bruce - fiat required to end discussion on lyx/copyright ?

1996-08-22 Thread Ian Jackson
section 3.2.6, ``/usr/doc//copyright''. -- Ian Jackson, at home. [EMAIL PROTECTED] + 44 1223 3 31579 General: [EMAIL PROTECTED]Permanent: [EMAIL PROTECTED] Churchill College, Cambridge, CB3 0DS. http://www.cl.cam.ac.uk/users/iwj10/

Re: New source format and related issues...

1996-08-22 Thread Ian Jackson
I wrote: > Michael Alan Dorman writes ("New source format and related issues..."): > ... > > dpkg-source: building hello in hello_1.3.orig.tar.gz > > tar: Cowardly refusing to create an empty archive > > Try `tar --help' for more information. > > dpkg-source: failure: tar gave error exit status 2 .

Re: Bug#4129: dselect 1.3.0 infelicity

1996-08-22 Thread Ian Jackson
Bruce Perens writes ("Bug#4129: dselect 1.3.0 infelicity"): > If I position the selection bar on "All Brokenly Installed Packages" and press > the "-" key, _all_ packages are de-selected, not just the brokenly installed > ones. This is counter-intuitive. `counter-intuitive' ?! You're a master of

Bug#4229: /etc/init.d/skeleton is missing `set -e'

1996-08-22 Thread Ian Jackson
Package: sysvinit Version: 2.64-1 The file /etc/init.d/skeleton should use `set -e' as this is good practice and it is an example script. Ian.

Bug#4230: /etc/init.d/network is an auto-handled conffile

1996-08-22 Thread Ian Jackson
Package: sysvinit Version: 2.64-1 The file /etc/init.d/network is a dpkg-handled conffile, despite containing important site-specific configuration information which is set up by the base disks. Files manipulated by installation scripts should not be dpkg-handled conffiles. Ian.

Bug#3838: GCC should depend on CPP, not conflict with it

1996-08-22 Thread Ian Jackson
David Engel writes ("Re: Bug#3838: GCC should depend on CPP, not conflict with it"): > Ian Jackson writes: > > David Engel writes ("Re: Bug#3838: GCC should depend on CPP, not conflict > > with it"): > > ... > > > Because they're designed t

Bug#4051: access permissions for /usr/bin/fdmount

1996-08-22 Thread Ian Jackson
Damn, it looks like my comment Before anyone changes anything, please read the appropriate part of the new policy manual. went unheeded. I see that the change that Daniel Quinlan requested has been made. It's a shame that I didn't get around to writing this more detailed response to the situati

Re: New package standards - LAST CALL

1996-08-23 Thread Ian Jackson
Otmar Lendl writes in private email which I'm sure he won't mind me posting: ... > What I would appreciate is, that all the Developer Ressources > (Guidelines, Hints, Virtual Names, FSSTD & co.) have a central > WWW page where I can easily look up the currently valid standards. > > Could you pleas

Re: installing elisp .el files

1996-08-23 Thread Ian Jackson
Mark Eichin writes ("Re: installing elisp .el files"): ... > Byte-compilation depends much more on *speed* than size. The > changelog mode doesn't do enough (I assume) to merit the speed > improvement... gnus, for example, really really needs to be byte > compiled. mailcrypt, w3, vm, probably all

manual updates (0.2.1.0)

1996-08-23 Thread Ian Jackson
when converting. * Use minor patchlevel for meaning changes which don't affect packages. * More verbosity about netiquette. * Reorganised participation and upload policy: merged with mailing lists. -- Ian Jackson <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> Fri, 23 Aug 1996 12:48:09 +0100 debian-

New source package uploads to `unstable' allowed

1996-08-23 Thread Ian Jackson
You may now upload packages in the new source format to `unstable'. Packages in `stable' will continue to be in the old format. Note that the caveats in my release announcement on debian-changes for 1.3.8 apply: * The new source tools have not been very well tested and will have bugs, some prob

Bug#4195: dpkg-source and new tar package don't mix

1996-08-23 Thread Ian Jackson
Bruce Perens writes ("Bug#4195: dpkg-source and new tar package don't mix"): > Package: dpkg > Version: 1.3.5 > > The latest iteration of the tar package unfortunately is not able to > understand the "--" flag. I suggest you not use that flag in dpkg-source > for now. Thanks for pointing out what

Re: Bug#4202: dpkg chainsaw massacre

1996-08-24 Thread Ian Jackson
Thomas Koenig writes ("Bug#4202: dpkg chainsaw massacre"): ... > When I tried to test-install the package, there were a few warnings, > but dpkg happily overwrote /usr/lib with that particular text file. > I'll eagerly await what fsck has to say about this. My apologies. I have fixed this in dpkg

Re: Debian Policy and Dpkg programmer's manuals

1996-08-24 Thread Ian Jackson
Bruce Perens asks me in private email: > The policy and dpkg programers documents are very good. > Can you get Ray to put these up on our web site ASAP? I'd like to, but I think the web site is all confused. I could be wrong. Does Matt Bailey still exist ? We've been waiting for him for several

Re: Documentation formats

1996-08-24 Thread Ian Jackson
Lars Wirzenius writes ("Re: Documentation formats "): ... > I'm not certain that distributing HTML with the packages and other formats > separately is a good idea. I think it might be a better idea to continue > as now and use on-line conversions from man and Info to HTML. Pre-converted > HTML shou

Re: Draft manuals (qmail)

1996-08-24 Thread Ian Jackson
Raul Miller writes ("Re: Draft manuals (qmail)"): ... > Perhaps it's reasonable to specify that every mail aware program > supports the MAIL environmental variable. As qmail's default behavior > is to deliver mail to ~user/Mailbox in standard unix mailbox format, > this should suffice. But does i

Re: Bug#4164: Ferret extended description has blank lines

1996-08-24 Thread Ian Jackson
Dale Scheetz writes ("Re: Bug#4164: Ferret extended description has blank lines "): ... > Objections to reporting something as a bug are not founded on this > concept. No one feels personaly "put down" by a bug report. Those of us > who object to "trivial" bug reports are more concerned about the

Re: exmh and Xauthority

1996-08-24 Thread Ian Jackson
Maarten Boekhold writes ("exmh and Xauthority"): ... > # Generate a random key; Mui and Pearce offer a number of alternatives > # for this. > randomkey=`perl -e 'srand; printf int(rand(10))'` Do NOT do this. It results in a weak cookie, meaning that someone could fairly easily gue

Re: Shadow problems

1996-08-24 Thread Ian Jackson
Rob Browning writes ("Re: Shadow problems"): > Miquel van Smoorenburg <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> writes: > > > You can ofcourse make the new directory setgid (chmod g+s). All files > > created in that directory will have their gid set to that of the directory.. > > > > But I can see that using newgrp mi

Re: Packaging questions (newbie)

1996-08-24 Thread Ian Jackson
Milan Zamazal writes ("Packaging questions (newbie)"): > I'd like to contribute some packages, but I'd like to ask some > questions first: > > 1. One of these packages is the replacement of `libX11.so'. Do I have to make > whole alternative version of appropriate standard X package or is there so

Bug#2475: at' uses middle-endian 2-digit-year date format

1996-08-24 Thread Ian Jackson
Thomas Koenig writes ("Bug#2475: at' uses middle-endian 2-digit-year date format"): > Date outputs from 'at' are mandated as > >date +"%a %b %e %T %Y" > > (i.e. "Wed Aug 14 20:05:13 1996") by the Posix.2a draft I have, which is > the date used in the upcoming release 3.0 of at(1). > > Y

Re: libpaper 1.0 on master

1996-08-24 Thread Ian Jackson
Yves Arrouye writes ("Re: libpaper 1.0 on master"): ... > That's what libpaper does: use whatever paper size is in the PAPER env > var, or if empty whatever name found in the file whose name is in the > PAPERSIZE env var, or if this var is empty too look in /etc/papersize, > defaulting to letter (s

Re: Incorrectly locates packages

1996-08-24 Thread Ian Jackson
Michael Meskes writes ("Incorrectly locates packages"): ... > Also, shouldn't the netscape and compress-package installer be moved to > contrib, too? I know they are free, but to be of any use you have to get the > some other software that is not free. So in fact they depend on it. Well at > least

Bug#660: GDB gets address wrong of struct member in memory breakpoint

1996-08-24 Thread Ian Jackson
Buddha M. D. Buck writes ("Bug#660: GDB gets address wrong of struct member in memory breakpoint"): > I'm looking at the backlog of forgotten bugs, and have verified that > this one still exists. > > The original report was for gdb 4.12, but Ian Jackson verified >

Bug#818: echo builtin doesn't check for write errors

1996-08-24 Thread Ian Jackson
Buddha M. D. Buck writes ("Bug#818: echo builtin doesn't check for write errors"): > As of 1.14.6-4, this bug is still there... maybe > > $ type echo > echo is a shell builtin > $ echo foo >/dev/full > $ echo $? > 0 > $ cat /dev/zero >/dev/full > cat: write error: No space left on device > $ echo

Bug#4218: Problems removing INN

1996-08-24 Thread Ian Jackson
Rob Leslie writes ("Bug#4218: Problems removing INN"): ... > dpkg: error processing inn (--purge): > cannot remove `/var/spool/news': Device or resource busy Would it be better if I made dpkg treat this as a warning ? It happens one of the directories in a package is a mount point. Ian.

Bug#4221: knews silently overwrites configuration file

1996-08-24 Thread Ian Jackson
Nils Rennebarth writes ("Bug#4221: knews silently overwrites configuration file"): > Knews should handle an upgrade more intelligently and not simply overwrite > the (possibly customized) /usr/X11R6/lib/X11/app-defaults/Knews > configuration file. > > I know this is difficult to do right. A lot o

Re: Bruce - fiat required to end discussion on lyx/copyright ?

1996-08-25 Thread Ian Jackson
[EMAIL PROTECTED] writes ("Re: Bruce - fiat required to end discussion on lyx/copyright ?"): > > All packages in the Debian distribution proper must be freely useable, > > modifiable and redistributable in both source and binary form. It must > > be possible for anyone to distribute

Re: Bruce - fiat required to end discussion on lyx/copyright ?

1996-08-25 Thread Ian Jackson
[EMAIL PROTECTED] writes ("Re: Bruce - fiat required to end discussion on lyx/copyright ?"): > > All packages in the Debian distribution proper must be freely useable, > > modifiable and redistributable in both source and binary form. It must > > be possible for anyone to distribute

Re: Bruce - fiat required to end discussion on lyx/copyright ?

1996-08-25 Thread Ian Jackson
Michael Meskes writes ("Re: Bruce - fiat required to end discussion on lyx/copyright ?"): ... > Ahem, this isn't exact enough IMO. With a standard Debian system I am able > to rebuild LyX. You can't rebuild LyX entirely from source using only packages in the main Debian distribution. > > [...]

Re: Bug#4051: access permissions for /usr/bin/fdmount

1996-08-25 Thread Ian Jackson
Michael Meskes writes ("Re: Bug#4051: access permissions for /usr/bin/fdmount"): > Ian Jackson writes: ... > > Compiling names of groups or even worse group ids into binaries is a > > bad idea. > > Why? Because it's not easy to change? It's ha

Re: New virtual package names.

1996-08-25 Thread Ian Jackson
Dale Scheetz writes ("Re: New virtual package names. "): > On Wed, 21 Aug 1996, Ian Jackson wrote: ... > > I can't prove that it's needless. You're shifting the burden of > > proof. It's up to you to show that it's needed. > > The burde

Re: Bruce - fiat required to end discussion on lyx/copyright ?

1996-08-25 Thread Ian Jackson
Dale Scheetz writes ("Re: Bruce - fiat required to end discussion on lyx/copyright ?"): > [...] xforms is improperly > located in contrib instead of non-free where it belongs (because source is > not distributed). [...] Sourceless packages are fine to distribute in contrib, so long as the binarie

Re: dpkg 1.3.8: dpkg-buildpackage -sa works and is recommended

1996-08-25 Thread Ian Jackson
Peter Tobias asks me in private email: ... > BTW: I didn't have much time the last weeks (and I won't have much > time the next weeks) so I wasn't able to check if this new source > format will also work for packages like netstd (packages which contain > lots of "sub packages" each with its own ori

Bug#4235: cpp, gcc, dpkg

1996-08-25 Thread Ian Jackson
[EMAIL PROTECTED] writes ("Bug#4235: cpp, gcc, dpkg "): ^ was this intentional ? > ... > Somehow installation with dpkg-ftp and the new cpp uninstalled my gcc > package and look how dpkg selects on a dselect update. This shouldn't > happen. Somehow gcc is too easily uninstalled becau

Re: Bug#4262: dpkg-source requires cpio

1996-08-26 Thread Ian Jackson
Susan G. Kleinmann writes ("Bug#4262: dpkg-source requires cpio"): ... > # dpkg-source -x sgmlspm_1.03ii-2.dsc > dpkg-source: failure: exec cpio: No such file or directory > dpkg-source: failure: cpio gave error exit status 2 ... > Installing cpio cured the problem, but suggests that the newest >

Re: Bug#4263: dpkg-source requires patch

1996-08-26 Thread Ian Jackson
Susan G. Kleinmann writes ("Bug#4263: dpkg-source requires patch"): ... > # dpkg-source -x sgmlspm_1.03ii-2.dsc > dpkg-source: extracting sgmlspm in sgmlspm-1.03ii > dpkg-source: failure: exec patch: No such file or directory > dpkg-source: failure: patch gave error exit status 2 ... patch is onl

Re: 96 New Debian i386 Packages

1996-08-26 Thread Ian Jackson
Michael Meskes writes ("Re: 96 New Debian i386 Packages"): ... > I've scanned through this list and found quite a lot of packages I never > read an announcement of. I usually read debian-{devel,changes,user,private} > so I take it I should have found this announcements. But I never have. Did I > ju

Re: $(ARCH)-debian-linux-gnu

1996-08-26 Thread Ian Jackson
Miquel van Smoorenburg writes ("Re: $(ARCH)-debian-linux-gnu"): ... > The GNU configure scripts usually match on i[3456]86-*-*) for > architecture support, so that's not a problem. > > I usually do something like: > > a = $(shell dpkg --print-architecture) > > ifeq (i386,$(a)) > arch = i486-debi

New source format now official

1996-08-26 Thread Ian Jackson
mat dates. * Typos corrected. * Released. -- Ian Jackson <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> Mon, 26 Aug 1996 14:27:34 +0100

Re: Bug#4238: mirror requires perl

1996-08-26 Thread Ian Jackson
Dirk Eddelbuettel writes ("Bug#4238: mirror requires perl"): ... > On the other hand, we seem to have (had ?) a policy of relying on (at least a > rudimentary) perl in the base system --- but I cannot find anything on that > in the programmers and policy manuals of dpkg-1.3.8. So should timezone.pl

Re: Bruce - fiat required to end discussion on lyx/copyright ?

1996-08-26 Thread Ian Jackson
Dale Scheetz writes ("Re: Bruce - fiat required to end discussion on lyx/copyright ?"): ... > Pine is in non-free because it's copyright places restrictions on the > distribution of source. Xforms has more severe restrictions on the > distribution of source than pine does. It is my understanding t

Bug#4257: request-route would be better as conffile

1996-08-26 Thread Ian Jackson
Kevin M. Bealer writes ("Bug#4257: request-route would be better as conffile"): ... > The modules packages contains a file /sbin/request-route. This is run by > the kernel to create routes as needed. > > The script's comments suggest is it very configurable, and I usually > configure it heavily .

Re: dpkg 1.3.8: dpkg-buildpackage -sa works and is recommended

1996-08-27 Thread Ian Jackson
Peter Tobias writes ("Re: dpkg 1.3.8: dpkg-buildpackage -sa works and is recommended"): ... > No problem. The archive with the original sources would be my own > collection of original sources then ... Yes, that's right. Ian.

Re: Bug#4051: access permissions for /usr/bin/fdmount

1996-08-27 Thread Ian Jackson
Michael Meskes writes ("Re: Bug#4051: access permissions for /usr/bin/fdmount"): ... > I have no problem with it being mode 4750 again. It should be 4754 - there's no point in stopping people reading it. (I've been saying 4754 all along, and this is what is in the policy manual.) ... > No problem

Re: New virtual package names.

1996-08-27 Thread Ian Jackson
Dale Scheetz writes ("Re: New virtual package names. "): >... Part of my concerns stem from the past history of ae. I have > only recently taken over the maintainance of this package. When I got it, > the essential field had been declaired a bug, but the discussion of that > bug seemed to indicate

Re: $(ARCH)-debian-linux-gnu

1996-08-27 Thread Ian Jackson
Juergen Menden writes to me in private email: ... > well, unfortunately some packages (like ldso) need i386-linux and > wouldn't like to match i486-linux. better might be ld.so is not a GNU package, is it ? It probably uses our own canonical architecture strings, which include i386 for intel, and

Re: $(ARCH)-debian-linux-gnu

1996-08-27 Thread Ian Jackson
Miquel van Smoorenburg writes ("Re: $(ARCH)-debian-linux-gnu"): > You (Ian Jackson) wrote: > > Should I provide a command to do this automatically ? > > > > dpkg --print-gnu-build-architecture perhaps. > > Sure, why not. It would result in more consistency,

Bug#4218: Problems removing INN

1996-08-27 Thread Ian Jackson
Miquel van Smoorenburg writes ("Re: Bug#4218: Problems removing INN"): > You (Ian Jackson) wrote: ... > > Would it be better if I made dpkg treat [EBUSY] as a warning ? > > (It happens one of the directories in a package is a mount point). > > Yes, I think so. Eve

Re: Bruce - fiat required to end discussion on lyx/copyright ?

1996-08-27 Thread Ian Jackson
Susan G. Kleinmann writes ("Re: Bruce - fiat required to end discussion on lyx/copyright ? "): ... > This is my synopsis of the relevant parts of Chapter 2: > > Packages go into contrib if their copyrights or patents require that they: > a. allow distribution of no source code > b. allow distr

Bug#4298: arrow keys in dselect don't work after search

1996-08-27 Thread Ian Jackson
Joey Hess writes ("Bug#4298: arrow keys in dselect don't work after search"): ... > I'm running dselect in an xterm. I go to the "[S]elect" part of it, and > the up and down addor keys scroll through the list of packages. But when I > type "/mosaic\n", to search for mosaic, the arrow keys stop work

Unanswered problem reports by maintainer and package

1996-08-28 Thread Ian Jackson
hael R. Nonweiler) (3 bugs): ipx 2913 ipx bootup scripts are broken ipx 3592 ipx description: no ext ncpfs3630 ncpfs description: summary starts w/ pkg name Rob Browning <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> (3 bugs): gimp-smoti 4303 config of gimp-smotif libwww-per 3

Bug#4326: smail can lose bounce messages

1996-08-28 Thread Ian Jackson
Package: smail Version: 3.1.29.1-14 Under certain obscure circumstances Smail can lose mail: When it needs to send a bounce message it reinvokes itself with the `-bS' flag, meaning to read SMTP commands from standard input but not to produce responses. It then feeds an SMTP `session' to the subp

Bug#4329: Emacs has hardcoded path for jka-compr, breaks at upgrade

1996-08-29 Thread Ian Jackson
Package: emacs Version: 19.31-2 I just upgraded from 19.29-3, and it left me with the following /etc/site-start.el: (load "/usr/lib/emacs/19.29/lisp/jka-compr.elc") (if (file-exists-p "/usr/lib/emacs/site-lisp/w3-init.el") (load "w3-init")) (autoload 'lout-mode "lout-mode" "Mode for editing Lou

Re: dpkg-buildpackage and -source questions

1996-08-29 Thread Ian Jackson
Karl Sackett writes ("dpkg-buildpackage and -source questions"): > Regarding the -r option for dpkg-buildpackage, are there any > examples of what's called for here? Is the gain-root-command > something each developer provides for himself, or is there a command > or shell somewhere that performs t

Bug#4335: cat -vET is lossy - there should be a non-lossy version

1996-08-29 Thread Ian Jackson
Package: textutils Version: 1.17-2 -chiark:~> echo -e 'hi^IthereM-z\011hi' | cat -vET hi^IthereM-z^Ihi$ -chiark:~> As you can see, it's not possible to distinguish a single escaped control character ^ or M- from the corresponding sequence of printable characters. There should be an option to do

Re: dpkg-buildpackage and -source questions

1996-08-30 Thread Ian Jackson
If you get this message: dpkg-source: error: tarfile `./exmh_1.6.9.orig.tar.gz' contains object with newline in its name (exmh-1.6.9.orig/?exmh-1.6.9.orig/exmh.README?exmh-1.6.9.orig/COPYRIGHT?exmh-1.6.9.orig/e...(rest of output deleted) You should upgrade your cpio. Unfortunately the (Debian

Unanswered problem reports by date

1996-08-30 Thread Ian Jackson
Erick Branderhorst 1009 bash bash problem with quoting/comp Guy Maor <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> 1016 procps top has 3's in vt100 Helmut Geyer <[EMAIL PROTECTED] 1032 boot-flopp Linux Counter Project Info Not Bruce Perens <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> 10

Re: 96 New Debian i386 Packages

1996-08-31 Thread Ian Jackson
Michael Meskes writes ("Re: 96 New Debian i386 Packages"): > Ian Jackson writes: > > Can we please have a statement on what we should do ? > > > > I think we should post the release announcements to debian-changes as > > well has having the summary posti

Re: Bug#4261: Ghostview and virtual package postscript_viewer

1996-08-31 Thread Ian Jackson
Brian C. White writes ("Re: Bug#4261: Ghostview and virtual package postscript_viewer"): ... > Yes, [something] _is_ what should be done. "install-mime" handles > multiple entries for the same mime-type. Thus, if both "ghostview" > and "gv" get installed, the user is given the choice of which is

Bug#4356: menu-bar-mode flag argument is inconsistent with universe

1996-08-31 Thread Ian Jackson
Package: emacs Version: 19.31-2 I used to have in my startup files (menu-bar-mode nil) which used to turn off menu bars. In 19.31 this has changed so that `nil' doesn't have the desired effect. Instead, you have to supply a negative number ! This is totally inconsistent with almost every other

Re: Bug#4204: cron does not install if /usr/sbin/cron does not exist!?

1996-08-31 Thread Ian Jackson
Steve Greenland writes ("Re: Bug#4204: cron does not install if /usr/sbin/cron does not exist!?"): > Yves Arrouye wrote: ... > > marin13# dpkg -i cron_3.0pl1-33.deb > > (Reading database ... 0 files and directories currently installed.) > > > > Preparing to replace cron (using cron_

Re: /usr/local (again)

1996-08-31 Thread Ian Jackson
Richard Kaszeta writes ("/usr/local (again)"): ... > Since packages generally don't install anything other than empty dirs > in /usr/local, can't this be handled in a way that makes it easier for > those of us trying to maintain many debian machines? Section 3.2.9 of the policy manual may be infor

Manuals other than as HTML in the dpkg*.deb file

1996-08-31 Thread Ian Jackson
I've asked this question before, but noone seemed to want to answer me, so I'm asking again: It would be good for the dpkg manuals to be on the Debian web pages. How do I organise this ? I can (for example) ship a .tar.gz of the HTML files with each dpkg upload. I'd like to distribute PostScript

Re: varargs, terminfo, and a note for the policy manual

1996-08-31 Thread Ian Jackson
Bruce Perens writes on debian-user and to lots of people: ... > OK, I hear you - here's a note for the policy manual, Ian, if it isn't > already in there. > > Varargs and libtermcap are provided to support end-users installing > legacy software, and the few packages (like Netscape) that are not >

Re: FAQ: Work-Needing and Prospective Packages

1996-08-31 Thread Ian Jackson
Sven Rudolph writes ("FAQ: Work-Needing and Prospective Packages"): ... > 1. General Questions > > 1.1.What is Debian GNU/Linux > > [etc] Sven, did you receive my message below ? Ian. --- start of forwarded message (RFC 934 encapsulation) --- Newsgroups: chiark.mail.debi

Re: New virtual package names.

1996-08-31 Thread Ian Jackson
Dale Scheetz writes ("Re: New virtual package names. "): ... > Well, I'm pretty sure that Bill didn't just wake up one morning and say > "Wow! That essential field sure is neat! Let's put it in ae! My assumption > was that this was an attempt to keep ae in the system. I think that Bill was under t

Re: Bug#4051: access permissions for /usr/bin/fdmount

1996-08-31 Thread Ian Jackson
Michael Meskes writes ("Re: Bug#4051: access permissions for /usr/bin/fdmount"): > Ian Jackson writes: ... > > Err, I strongly suggest that you compile the group check out of the > > executable. This is only likely to lead to confusion. > > I think I understand

Bug tracking system's outgoing mail

1996-08-31 Thread Ian Jackson
I have reconfigured the sub-MTA in my home directory on master which is used by the bug tracking system. (I have Smail installed in my filespace because qmail's sendmail command line emulation is broken and using Smail as a gateway to the system's real MTA was easier than trying to parse RFC822 re

Bug#4329: Emacs has hardcoded path for jka-compr, breaks at upgrade

1996-08-31 Thread Ian Jackson
Mark W. Eichin writes ("Re: Bug#4329: Emacs has hardcoded path for jka-compr, breaks at upgrade"): > Did you upgrade from 19.29-3 to 19.31-2 as indicated in your message, > or to 19.34-2, which is current? 19.34-2 hasn't reached my local mirror yet. Isn't it still in Incoming ? > (I ask, becau

Re: dpkg-buildpackage and -source questions

1996-08-31 Thread Ian Jackson
Dale Scheetz writes ("Re: dpkg-buildpackage and -source questions"): > On Fri, 30 Aug 1996, Ian Jackson wrote: > > If you get this message [deleted] > > you should upgrade your cpio. [...] > > This resolved the problem for me. At least at this point I can unpack &g

Re: [linux-alert] LSF Update#13: Vulnerability of mount/umount utilities from util-linux 2.5

1996-08-31 Thread Ian Jackson
-p0. (where P is the package name and V the version.) C. There are some packages where the Debian source is the upstream source. In this case there will be no .diff.gz and you can just use the .tar.gz. If a .dsc is provided you can use `dpkg-source -x'. -- Ian Jackson <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> Sat, 31 Aug 1996

Re: Do we ever retire packages?

1996-08-31 Thread Ian Jackson
Dirk Eddelbuettel writes ("Re: Do we ever retire packages?"): ... > I would like to have a2gs and a2ps removed. They both have the same > Description: text, and scope, "ASCII to PostScript filter". > > For me, a2gs is broken. I filed bug 1112 against it [1], and this bug is > still open after 13 m

Re: 'nother glitch with new source format...

1996-08-31 Thread Ian Jackson
Michael Alan Dorman writes ("'nother glitch with new source format..."): > I've almost finished converting a whole package---the only thing I > lack is a completed .changes file. > > When running dpkg-buildpackage on my testbed, I get the following: > ... > dpkg-genchanges: error: package ncftp ha

Re: metamail_2.7-7

1996-09-01 Thread Ian Jackson
Michael Meskes writes ("metamail_2.7-7"): > My first try with the new format. Could anyone who knows more about it than > I do (Ian?) please take a look at it to see if everything's correct? It looks reasonable, but I have the following complaints: Your `debian/README' should be called `debian/c

Re: PGP depends.

1996-09-01 Thread Ian Jackson
Dale Scheetz writes ("PGP depends."): ... > Now, as it happens, I have also been reading the new Policy manual (BTW, > thank you Ian J. for this fine piece of work. It has been long needed and > I for one greatly appreciate your work) and it has some things to say > about this issue. In particular

Re: PGP depends.

1996-09-01 Thread Ian Jackson
Guy Maor writes ("Re: PGP depends."): > On Wed, 28 Aug 1996, Dale Scheetz wrote: > > > In particular it says that packages that depend on > > packages in non-free are to reside in contrib (or non-free if other > > restictions apply). > > I've also been meaning to bring this up, but from another a

Bug#4362: lyx should have `section: contrib'

1996-09-01 Thread Ian Jackson
Package: lyx Version: 0.10.1-1 Package: lyx Priority: optional Section: tex This should read Section: contrib as per section 3.1.3 of the policy manual (version 2.0.1.0), `Section and Priority' Ian.

Re: Announce: New Debian FAQ

1996-09-01 Thread Ian Jackson
Sven Rudolph writes ("Announce: New Debian FAQ"): > The new Debian FAQ is now at ftp://ftp.debian.org/debian/doc/FAQ/ . ... > When you encounter mistakes or want to provide comments or suggestions > please send it via e-mail to [EMAIL PROTECTED] ... My comments: 4.4 How should I install a non-Deb

Bug#4363: `which' cannot cope if command names contain spaces

1996-09-01 Thread Ian Jackson
Package: debianutils Version: 1.2-3 -chiark:d> cat >'cmd with spaces' #!/bin/sh echo "called cmd with spaces: $@" -chiark:d> chmod +x './cmd with spaces' -chiark:d> './cmd with spaces' hi called cmd with spaces: hi -chiark:d> PATH=:$PATH 'cmd with spaces' hi called cmd with spaces: hi -chiark:d>

Re: Do we ever retire packages?

1996-09-01 Thread Ian Jackson
Guy Maor writes ("Re: Do we ever retire packages?"): > On 29 Aug 1996, Kai Henningsen wrote: > > > So, I'd propose a new directory, parallel to contrib and non-free. We > > could call it "dropped" or "orphaned" and include a README saying that > > these are packages that are no longer supporte

Re: dselect/dpkg & multiple versions

1996-09-01 Thread Ian Jackson
Rob Browning writes ("Re: dselect/dpkg & multiple versions"): > Michael Shields <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> writes: > > (Of course, I ca'n't offer code at the moment so my opinion carries little > > weight.) > > That's not true. It just means that it might take a bit longer for it > to happen if it's a g

Re: $(ARCH)-debian-linux-gnu

1996-09-01 Thread Ian Jackson
Mark Eichin writes ("Re: $(ARCH)-debian-linux-gnu"): > I've missed something here. Why are we setting i486 instead of i386 > for *anything*? I can see an advantage to having a dpkg command that > prints "i386-debian-linux-gnu" instead of having to cobble it together > (did you notice that most of

Bug#4364: forwarded message from Marek Michalkiewicz

1996-09-01 Thread Ian Jackson
Package: xlib Version: ? We have this bug, don't we ? It should be fixed. Ian. --- start of forwarded message (RFC 934 encapsulation) --- Article: 918 of chiark.mail.linux-security Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Content-Type: text/plain; charset=US-ASCII MIME-Version: 1.0 Message-ID: <

Bug#4354: movemail doesn't work

1996-09-01 Thread Ian Jackson
Mark W. Eichin writes ("Bug#4354: movemail doesn't work"): ... > As shipped, it *was* installed setuid root + setgid mail... could you > check your installation and verify, and perhaps be more specific about > movemail's complaint? Also include the actual modes of your > /var/spool/mail directory,

Bug#4356: menu-bar-mode flag argument is inconsistent with universe

1996-09-01 Thread Ian Jackson
Mark W. Eichin writes ("Re: Bug#4356: menu-bar-mode flag argument is inconsistent with universe"): > > In 19.31 this has changed so that `nil' doesn't have the desired > > effect. Instead, you have to supply a negative number ! > > Hmm. The way elisp "optional arguments" work, you can't distingu

dpkg manuals in other formats and on web site

1996-09-01 Thread Ian Jackson
Since noone has answered my question I've done what seemed the right thing: The next dpkg upload will be accompanied by the manuals in gzipped PostScript (formatted for A4) and HTML in gzipped tarfiles, as separate files in the upload. Ian.

changes to dpkg manuals in 2.1.0.0 (dpkg 1.3.14) since 2.0.0.0

1996-09-01 Thread Ian Jackson
' manual source package section refers to conversion instructions in policy manual. * Make it clear that recommending a non-free or contrib package puts a package in contrib. -- Ian Jackson <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> Sun, 1 Sep 1996 17:47:18 +0100 debian-manuals (2.0.1.

debiandoc-sgml 1.0.5: bugfixes (req'd to compile dpkg 1.3.14)

1996-09-01 Thread Ian Jackson
-BEGIN PGP SIGNED MESSAGE- Format: 1.5 Date: Sun, 1 Sep 1996 23:59:20 +0100 Source: debiandoc-sgml Binary: debiandoc-sgml Architecture: source all Version: 1.0.5 Distribution: unstable Urgency: low (HIGH for building dpkg) Maintainer: Ian Jackson <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> Descr

hello 1.3-12: minor packaging changes

1996-09-01 Thread Ian Jackson
-BEGIN PGP SIGNED MESSAGE- Format: 1.5 Date: Sun, 1 Sep 1996 16:02:23 +0100 Source: hello Binary: hello Architecture: source i386 Version: 1.3-12 Distribution: unstable Urgency: low Maintainer: Ian Jackson <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> Description: hello - The classic greeting, and

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