Re: Ubuntu discussion at planet.debian.org

2004-10-24 Thread Hamish Moffatt
Debian, or snapshot.debian.net, or out of date mirrors (:)). Hamish -- Hamish Moffatt VK3SB <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>

Re: Bug#280435: ITP: libkexif -- KDE library to read/edit EXIF informations

2004-11-10 Thread Hamish Moffatt
oesn't, and why does KDE need its own EXIF library? Next: libkc, being the KDE version of gnu libc... Hamish -- Hamish Moffatt VK3SB <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>

Re: Bug#280435: ITP: libkexif -- KDE library to read/edit EXIF informations

2004-11-10 Thread Hamish Moffatt
s to display/edit EXIF tags libexif-ruby - EXIF tag parsing Library for ruby (dummy package) libexif-ruby1.6 - EXIF tag parsing Library for ruby1.6 libexif-ruby1.8 - EXIF tag parsing Library for ruby1.8 libexif10 - The EXIF library allows you to parse an EXIF file Hamish -- Hamish Moffatt VK3SB <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>

Re: Bug#280435: ITP: libkexif -- KDE library to read/edit EXIF informations

2004-11-10 Thread Hamish Moffatt
On Wed, Nov 10, 2004 at 02:21:35PM +0100, Achim Bohnet wrote: > On Wednesday 10 November 2004 13:03, Hamish Moffatt wrote: > > OK. (The description didn't mention that it was graphical.) > > Mhmm... isn't KDE library enough? I would never that something > with

Re: many .pc files in wrong package / mass bugfiling?

2004-11-16 Thread Hamish Moffatt
ur hours for consensus.. the bug report I received for my two on the list was dated 8:27 PM. Thanks, Hamish -- Hamish Moffatt VK3SB <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>

Re: Bug#283578: ITP: hot-babe -- erotic graphical system activity monitor

2004-12-01 Thread Hamish Moffatt
ad monitoring, let's just ship some porn for the sake of it. Call it test data for pornview or something. Hamish -- Hamish Moffatt VK3SB <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>

Re: Bug#283578: ITP: hot-babe -- erotic graphical system activity monitor

2004-12-02 Thread Hamish Moffatt
On Wed, Dec 01, 2004 at 04:19:48PM -0600, Manoj Srivastava wrote: > On Thu, 2 Dec 2004 09:06:18 +1100, Hamish Moffatt <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> said: > > On Wed, Dec 01, 2004 at 03:30:24PM -0200, Everton da Silva Marques wrote: > >> It's VERY oppressive to force hot-

Re: Bug#283578: ITP: hot-babe -- erotic graphical system activity monitor

2004-12-02 Thread Hamish Moffatt
seem to ultimately reduce our freedom to distribute the Debian OS (ie, to minors, as well as possibly to some parts of the world). I can't see how that is desirable. I think that including this package makes us look immature. Hamish -- Hamish Moffatt VK3SB <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>

Re: Re: Bug#283578: ITP: hot-babe -- erotic graphical system activitymonitor

2004-12-02 Thread Hamish Moffatt
;m pushing the thing to the absurd, but do you realise what you are saying > is absolutely ridiculous ? Really, you can't see any difference between kde and hot-babe? Does NM include a half-a-clue check? Hamish -- Hamish Moffatt VK3SB <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>

Re: Bug#283578: ITP: hot-babe -- erotic graphical system activitymonitor

2004-12-03 Thread Hamish Moffatt
. The linux kernel source code intends to be (a) compilable and also useful as (b) educational. As a side-effect, it contains swearing. hot-babe exists only to display images, presently of naked women. Hence the name. Hamish -- Hamish Moffatt VK3SB <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>

Re: Bug#283994: ITP: glastree -- builds live backup trees, with branches for each day

2004-12-03 Thread Hamish Moffatt
rs over smbfs and nfs, using hard links to conserve space. It offers sliding window; you can tell it to keep a month of backups, and then weekly after that for 6 months, then monthly etc.) Written in Perl, fwiw (not much I hope). Hamish -- Hamish Moffatt VK3SB <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>

Re: Bug#284285: ITP: fairuce -- Spam filter based on sender identity verification

2004-12-05 Thread Hamish Moffatt
e : Free for non-commercial use > Description : Spam filter based on sender identity verification > > FairUCE is a spam filter that prevents spam from reaching the > recipient's inbox by verifying the identity of the sender. It will stop By what mechanism? thanks

Re: Debian's status as a legal entity and how it could effect a potential defense.

2004-12-06 Thread Hamish Moffatt
ercial efforts like Ubuntu but in the future, what else? Though you talk about 'uber right wingers' in your post, I would say that 'uber left wingers' are dominating the project these days. Hamish -- Hamish Moffatt VK3SB <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>

Re: Bug#283578: ITP: hot-babe -- erotic graphical system activity monitor

2004-12-06 Thread Hamish Moffatt
ur opinion as such rather than fact please. Hamish -- Hamish Moffatt VK3SB <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>

Re: Re: Bug#283578: ITP: hot-babe -- erotic graphical system activitymonitor

2004-12-09 Thread Hamish Moffatt
ty. Hamish -- Hamish Moffatt VK3SB <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>

Re: Bug#283578: ITP: hot-babe -- erotic graphical system activitymonitor

2004-12-11 Thread Hamish Moffatt
27;s more cruft. How many CPU monitors can we possibly use? I'm not too concerned about where it's legal for adults to use it. Hamish -- Hamish Moffatt VK3SB <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>

Re: LCC and blobs

2004-12-12 Thread Hamish Moffatt
but Debian is not here to work > against that. It's just the same. In both cases, the manufacturer has provided the firmware, without source, but the driver requires it. Hamish -- Hamish Moffatt VK3SB <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>

Re: On the freeness of a BLOB-containing driver

2004-12-12 Thread Hamish Moffatt
id shipping non-upgradable components at all cost, because those components are rarely bug free upfront. As a follow on, have you ever seen a PC motherboard whose BIOS can be upgraded from linux? No, you have to find floppy disks or boot Windows. Lack of FLASH firmware is definitely a convenience

Re: LCC and blobs

2004-12-12 Thread Hamish Moffatt
ships it to you. Why should that make a difference to Debian? > To say it is arbitrary is worse, because that insults the motives of > the people who disagree with you. There's a time and a place for that I think. Hamish -- Hamish Moffatt VK3SB <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>

Re: Bug#285207: ITP: kwirelessmonitor -- KWirelessMonitor is a small KDE application that docks into the system tray and monitors the wireless network interface

2004-12-12 Thread Hamish Moffatt
y and monitors the wireless network interface > . > The systray icon shows the signal quality and the bit rate using a > "bar graph" and a "pie chart", respectively. Could you add some cartoons of people taking their clothes off? thanks, Hamish -- Hamish Moffatt VK3SB <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>

Re: On the freeness of a BLOB-containing driver

2004-12-12 Thread Hamish Moffatt
On Mon, Dec 13, 2004 at 10:37:57AM +1100, Matthew Palmer wrote: > On Sun, Dec 12, 2004 at 11:39:30PM +1100, Hamish Moffatt wrote: > > And 4. They're not allowed to by regulations, eg wireless hardware > > whose firmware cannot be distributed by FCC rule. > > I'm

Re: On the freeness of a BLOB-containing driver

2004-12-12 Thread Hamish Moffatt
On Sun, Dec 12, 2004 at 09:07:55AM -0800, Bruce Perens wrote: > Hamish Moffatt wrote: > >I'm going to disagree (violently) here. FLASH costs money, which drives > >up costs to consumers directly. > > > Maybe, maybe not. A lot of the processors come with it on board

Re: On the freeness of a BLOB-containing driver

2004-12-12 Thread Hamish Moffatt
> Is a bit of flash or rom that much bigger than ram? No, but it's not a replacement either. So what's your point? > Is a bit of flash or rom that much bigger than ram? Isn't most of the > space in the dongle air or filling material? Circuit board area is the issue. Hamish -- Hamish Moffatt VK3SB <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>

Re: Are BLOBs source code?

2004-12-13 Thread Hamish Moffatt
e devices (very cheap stuff, nothing fancy) which even uses > VxWorks. This explains why it is not even possible for some > manufacturers to open the firmwares for their devices. Hard to believe that anything cheap could contain VxWorks :-| Hamish -- Hamish Moffatt VK3SB <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>

Re: If you really want Free firmware...

2004-12-13 Thread Hamish Moffatt
evision. A manufacturing company is going to need to see a pretty good market before they invest that in an open design. It's not quite the same as getting a run of Debian CDs made for a dollar each. Hamish -- Hamish Moffatt VK3SB <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>

Re: If you really want Free firmware...

2004-12-13 Thread Hamish Moffatt
On Tue, Dec 14, 2004 at 02:26:46AM +, Andrew Suffield wrote: > On Tue, Dec 14, 2004 at 08:43:37AM +1100, Hamish Moffatt wrote: > > Manufacturing an ASIC involves NRE (non-recurring engineering) costs > > of hundreds of thousands to millions per revision. A manufacturing > >

Re: If you really want Free firmware...

2004-12-14 Thread Hamish Moffatt
d do) do highly complicated software though. That FPGA equipment doesn't have free development tools, btw. Hamish -- Hamish Moffatt VK3SB <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>

Re: If you really want Free firmware...

2004-12-15 Thread Hamish Moffatt
box. That's the manufacturing. The design is a process of coding and testing, which you could do yourself for free. (Of course there's no suitable free tools yet either.) Unlike software, you have to get it right quickly because the next revision of prototypes incurs all the same costs again. Hamish -- Hamish Moffatt VK3SB <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>

Re: If you really want Free firmware...

2004-12-16 Thread Hamish Moffatt
On Wed, Dec 15, 2004 at 07:59:34AM -0500, Chasecreek Systemhouse wrote: > On Wed, 15 Dec 2004 23:32:39 +1100, Hamish Moffatt <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: > > On Tue, Dec 14, 2004 at 10:01:59AM -0500, Chasecreek Systemhouse wrote: > > > > It would be nice if you inclu

Re: LCC and blobs

2005-01-01 Thread Hamish Moffatt
is not executable on your host CPU, just like the text of the bible. Hamish -- Hamish Moffatt VK3SB <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>

Re: Always run dpkg --dry-run -i before running dpkg -i!

2005-01-06 Thread Hamish Moffatt
ter-examples.) Hamish -- Hamish Moffatt VK3SB <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>

Re: Always run dpkg --dry-run -i before running dpkg -i!

2005-01-07 Thread Hamish Moffatt
. Yet it's what's needed here (or equivalent). As a workaround, the generated modules package could pre-depend on the utils package. That would stop dpkg from unpacking it and leaving a useless installation. Hamish -- Hamish Moffatt VK3SB <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>

Re: Always run dpkg --dry-run -i before running dpkg -i!

2005-01-07 Thread Hamish Moffatt
On Fri, Jan 07, 2005 at 02:55:55PM +, Henning Makholm wrote: > Scripsit Hamish Moffatt <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> > > > As a workaround, the generated modules package could pre-depend on the > > utils package. That would stop dpkg from unpacking it and leaving a > > use

Re: Bug#295430: ITP: cpufrequtils -- Tools to access to the Linux kernel cpufreq subsystem

2005-02-16 Thread Hamish Moffatt
On Wed, Feb 16, 2005 at 02:24:34PM +0100, Daniel Baumann wrote: > Currently, the priority was not so high to get it uploaded since NEW is > on hold. Is it? Did I miss the memo? Hamish -- Hamish Moffatt VK3SB <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> -- To UNSUBSCRIB

Re: The ghost of libc-dev

2005-02-19 Thread Hamish Moffatt
-dev | libc-dev' to avoid the situation > of having only a pure-virtual package. Why is pure virtual bad? Why not fix the bugs that make it bad? Hamish, feeling like a broken record. -- Hamish Moffatt VK3SB <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> -- To UNSUBSCRIBE, email

Re: Let's remove mips, mipsel, s390, ...

2005-02-21 Thread Hamish Moffatt
On Mon, Feb 21, 2005 at 12:33:24AM +0100, Goswin von Brederlow wrote: > Dropping some archs would only have one benefit. There would be mirror > space to include amd64. Well, that's quite a compelling reason. It's embarassing that amd64 won't be official in sarge. Hamish --

Re: Let's remove mips, mipsel, s390, ...

2005-02-21 Thread Hamish Moffatt
that wasn't available before. Is the problem that you use apt-get to install the current version, and then check what you got? Because you can't tell apt-get to install at least version X else fail? Hamish -- Hamish Moffatt VK3SB <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> --

Re: Let's remove mips, mipsel, s390, ...

2005-02-22 Thread Hamish Moffatt
On Tue, Feb 22, 2005 at 07:52:57AM +0100, Ingo Juergensmann wrote: > On Tue, Feb 22, 2005 at 02:29:33PM +1100, Hamish Moffatt wrote: > > Why do the build servers install all the dependencies only to find out > > that some installed versions are insufficient for the build? > >

Re: Let's remove mips, mipsel, s390, ...

2005-02-22 Thread Hamish Moffatt
On Tue, Feb 22, 2005 at 12:51:16PM +0100, Ingo Juergensmann wrote: > On Tue, Feb 22, 2005 at 10:44:42PM +1100, Hamish Moffatt wrote: > > > > Bastian Blank worked on a database that handles all these build-deps on > > > the > > > central wanna-build replacement. T

Re: Let's remove mips, mipsel, s390, ...

2005-02-22 Thread Hamish Moffatt
On Tue, Feb 22, 2005 at 12:50:02PM +0100, Wouter Verhelst wrote: > On Tue, Feb 22, 2005 at 02:29:33PM +1100, Hamish Moffatt wrote: > > Is the problem that you use apt-get to install the current version, and > > then check what you got? Because you can't tell apt-get to

Re: Bug#298195: ITP: tinywm -- Ridiculously tiny window manager

2005-03-06 Thread Hamish Moffatt
L : http://incise.org/ > > * License : fair license > [...] > Usual example of why random people should not be writing licenses. Do upstream developers find our arrogance endearing? (Specifically yours.) How embarassing. Hamish -- Hamish Moffatt VK3SB <[EMAIL PROT

Re: Do not make gratuitous source uploads just to provoke the buildds!

2005-03-12 Thread Hamish Moffatt
t new machines/owners aren't welcome currently anyway. Hamish -- Hamish Moffatt VK3SB <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> -- To UNSUBSCRIBE, email to [EMAIL PROTECTED] with a subject of "unsubscribe". Trouble? Contact [EMAIL PROTECTED]

Re: Do not make gratuitous source uploads just to provoke the buildds!

2005-03-12 Thread Hamish Moffatt
waiting might be the easiest thing to do. arm doesn't appear to be catching up. New packages are being uploaded at least as quickly as they're being built. My package geda-gschem has not really changed its placement in the last week; actually I think it's slipped further down t

Re: Do not make gratuitous source uploads just to provoke the buildds!

2005-03-13 Thread Hamish Moffatt
According to http://people.debian.org/~igloo/needs-build-graph/index.php?days=30 arm hasn't been empty in over 3 weeks, and it's getting worse still. s390 is also rising steeply. Hamish -- Hamish Moffatt VK3SB <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> -- To UNSUBSCRIBE,

Re: Do not make gratuitous source uploads just to provoke the buildds!

2005-03-13 Thread Hamish Moffatt
d FTBFS bugs should be release-critical. But do we need to actually make those packages critical for release? For zero users? Having half your packages prioritised last in the build queue is rather insulting to be honest.. Hamish -- Hamish Moffatt VK3SB <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> <[EMAIL PRO

Re: Do not make gratuitous source uploads just to provoke the buildds!

2005-03-14 Thread Hamish Moffatt
On Sun, Mar 13, 2005 at 08:15:13PM -0800, Thomas Bushnell BSG wrote: > Hamish Moffatt <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> writes: > > > Given how low hamradio (and the like) are prioritised, I suggest that we > > get smarter about 'tesing' and omit some sections on some archi

Re: Do not make gratuitous source uploads just to provoke the buildds!

2005-03-14 Thread Hamish Moffatt
On Mon, Mar 14, 2005 at 07:37:56AM +0100, Ingo Juergensmann wrote: > On Mon, Mar 14, 2005 at 11:49:34AM +1100, Hamish Moffatt wrote: > > > Given how low hamradio (and the like) are prioritised, I suggest that we > > get smarter about 'tesing' and omit some se

Re: Do not make gratuitous source uploads just to provoke the buildds!

2005-03-14 Thread Hamish Moffatt
On Mon, Mar 14, 2005 at 11:00:52AM +0100, Andreas Barth wrote: > * Hamish Moffatt ([EMAIL PROTECTED]) [050314 01:55]: > > Given how low hamradio (and the like) are prioritised, I suggest that we > > get smarter about 'tesing' and omit some sections on some architectures

Re: Bits (Nybbles?) from the Vancouver release team meeting

2005-03-14 Thread Hamish Moffatt
On Mon, Mar 14, 2005 at 11:21:53AM +0100, Andreas Barth wrote: > * Tollef Fog Heen ([EMAIL PROTECTED]) [050314 10:55]: > > Multiarch. > > I have yet to see a proposal how to do multiarch in the right way. Is there even a demonstrated need? Hamish -- Hamish Moffatt VK3SB &l

Re: Bits (Nybbles?) from the Vancouver release team meeting

2005-03-14 Thread Hamish Moffatt
he SCC architectures? The packages will still be built and d-i maintained as long as there are porters interested in doing that work for the architecture. The only difference is that those architectures won't influence testing and they won't be officially released. Hamish -- Hami

Re: Bits (Nybbles?) from the Vancouver release team meeting

2005-03-14 Thread Hamish Moffatt
On Mon, Mar 14, 2005 at 12:06:18PM +, Martin Michlmayr wrote: > * Hamish Moffatt <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> [2005-03-14 23:00]: > > But really, is there much benefit in making *releases* for the SCC > > architectures? > > For some SSC arches, it *might* not make a diffe

Re: Bits (Nybbles?) from the Vancouver release team meeting

2005-03-14 Thread Hamish Moffatt
On Mon, Mar 14, 2005 at 01:17:03PM +0100, Ingo Juergensmann wrote: > On Mon, Mar 14, 2005 at 11:00:22PM +1100, Hamish Moffatt wrote: > > But really, is there much benefit in > > making *releases* for the SCC architectures? > > What will happen is something like this: >

Re: Bits (Nybbles?) from the Vancouver release team meeting

2005-03-14 Thread Hamish Moffatt
On Mon, Mar 14, 2005 at 01:33:16PM +0100, Thiemo Seufer wrote: > Hamish Moffatt wrote: > > On Mon, Mar 14, 2005 at 10:10:32AM +0100, Ingo Juergensmann wrote: > > > All the work and support over all those years by all those users and > > > porters > > > will be

Re: Bits (Nybbles?) from the Vancouver release team meeting

2005-03-14 Thread Hamish Moffatt
On Mon, Mar 14, 2005 at 10:42:50PM +1000, Alexander Zangerl wrote: > On Mon, 14 Mar 2005 23:30:20 +1100, Hamish Moffatt writes: > >OK, that makes sense. Can you buy those architectures new? (Surely yes > >in the case of s390 at least, probably mipsel also as the mips CPU > >ma

Re: Bits (Nybbles?) from the Vancouver release team meeting

2005-03-14 Thread Hamish Moffatt
On Mon, Mar 14, 2005 at 11:05:58PM +1000, Alexander Zangerl wrote: > On Mon, 14 Mar 2005 23:49:44 +1100, Hamish Moffatt writes: > >On Mon, Mar 14, 2005 at 01:33:16PM +0100, Thiemo Seufer wrote: > >> For anyone who uses Debian as base of a commercial solution it is a > >>

Re: Bits (Nybbles?) from the Vancouver release team meeting

2005-03-14 Thread Hamish Moffatt
On Mon, Mar 14, 2005 at 02:41:35PM +0100, Frank Küster wrote: > Hamish Moffatt <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> schrieb: > > On Mon, Mar 14, 2005 at 01:33:16PM +0100, Thiemo Seufer wrote: > >> For anyone who uses Debian as base of a commercial solution it is a > >> requirem

Re: Bits (Nybbles?) from the Vancouver release team meeting

2005-03-14 Thread Hamish Moffatt
On Mon, Mar 14, 2005 at 04:27:50PM +0100, Matthias Urlichs wrote: > Hi, Hamish Moffatt wrote: > > > especially given the requirement that you need <= 2 buildds. > > I consider that requirement to be not warranted, and indeed unjustified. I would like to hear the rational

Re: Security Support and other reasoning (was: Re: Bits (Nybbles?) from the Vancouver release team meeting)

2005-03-14 Thread Hamish Moffatt
at ALL architectures wait for security updates until the tier 2 architectures are ready. Is that acceptable? Hamish -- Hamish Moffatt VK3SB <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> -- To UNSUBSCRIBE, email to [EMAIL PROTECTED] with a subject of "unsubscribe". Trouble? Contact [EMAIL PROTECTED]

Re: status of buildds?

2005-03-15 Thread Hamish Moffatt
chs with backlogs with extra buildds to shut down to comply with > their wishes. As you well know, the problem was that the buildds were run by non-developers for whom we have no trust relationship, not that they were being run by a developer unofficially. Hamish -- Hamish Moffatt VK3S

Re: Bits (Nybbles?) from the Vancouver release team meeting

2005-03-15 Thread Hamish Moffatt
t; > contribute, and is actively trying to subvert the project. > > How do you propose to 'ban' someone from d-d? Never stopped Bruce Perens. He had people on 'digest' mode, where their entire day's posts got sent as one big digest to debian-devel. Quite useful at

Re: status of buildds?

2005-03-16 Thread Hamish Moffatt
On Tue, Mar 15, 2005 at 01:47:22PM +0100, Ingo Juergensmann wrote: > On Tue, Mar 15, 2005 at 11:34:58PM +1100, Hamish Moffatt wrote: > > As you well know, the problem was that the buildds were run by > > non-developers for whom we have no trust relationship, not that they > >

Re: status of buildds?

2005-03-16 Thread Hamish Moffatt
On Wed, Mar 16, 2005 at 02:30:32PM +0100, Ingo Juergensmann wrote: > On Thu, Mar 17, 2005 at 12:09:28AM +1100, Hamish Moffatt wrote: > > > > So, you call me not trustworthy, [...] > > No. I said you aren't trusted, not that you aren't trustworthy. > > Those ar

Re: Another load of typos

2005-03-17 Thread Hamish Moffatt
writing e.g. "an historic achievement". (This might be a topic without a possible conclusion!) Funny, but although I'd say "an HTML file" or "an HTTPS url" or similar, I'd say "a history achievement". But then we say aich not haich here. An F

Re: Another load of typos

2005-03-17 Thread Hamish Moffatt
On Thu, Mar 17, 2005 at 06:47:09AM -0600, Ron Johnson wrote: > On Thu, 2005-03-17 at 23:20 +1100, Hamish Moffatt wrote: > > On Thu, Mar 17, 2005 at 10:59:34AM +, Will Newton wrote: > > > On Thursday 17 March 2005 03:16, Florian Zumbiehl wrote: > [snip] > > > >

Re: dpkg-sig support wanted?

2005-11-25 Thread Hamish Moffatt
his mean the archive contains .debs not build by Debian developers? Shouldn't sponsors be recompiling packages from non-DDs before upload? Hamish -- Hamish Moffatt VK3SB <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> -- To UNSUBSCRIBE, email to [EMAIL PROTECTED] with a subject of "unsubscribe". Trouble? Contact [EMAIL PROTECTED]

Re: possible freetype transition; improved library handling needed for all C/C++ packages

2005-11-27 Thread Hamish Moffatt
#x27;t -l during link. I'd welcome any suggestions on how this might be... dpkg-shlibdeps bug? thanks Hamish -- Hamish Moffatt VK3SB <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> -- To UNSUBSCRIBE, email to [EMAIL PROTECTED] with a subject of "unsubscribe". Trouble? Contact [EMAIL PROTECTED]

Re: possible freetype transition; improved library handling needed for all C/C++ packages

2005-11-27 Thread Hamish Moffatt
On Sun, Nov 27, 2005 at 02:31:05PM +0100, Kurt Roeckx wrote: > On Sun, Nov 27, 2005 at 11:48:37PM +1100, Hamish Moffatt wrote: > > g++ -Wall `"/usr/bin/wx-config" --cxxflags` -I/usr/include -I/usr/include > > -I/usr/include -g -O2 -o tqsl tqsl.o extwizard.o tqslwiz.o

Re: Bug#342031: ITP: public.network.pcap -- Pike interface module for the pcap library

2005-12-04 Thread Hamish Moffatt
On Sun, Dec 04, 2005 at 10:33:59PM +0100, Marek Habersack wrote: > Package: wnpp > Severity: wishlist > Owner: Marek Habersack <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> > > * Package name: public.network.pcap Will these packages all have a pikeN-* naming scheme when uploaded? Hamish --

Re: Alternate proposal for Declassification of debian-private archives

2005-12-04 Thread Hamish Moffatt
terial > + is published. This policy is less generous than Aj's original proposal - the author cannot veto for unreasonable reasons, only request anonymity. I think it's right to clarify the situation for quotes, but a full veto as per the original proposal is also desirable.

Re: buildd administration

2005-12-11 Thread Hamish Moffatt
t; that time. And for the Nth time, this had to change not because of the actual people involved but because those people were not in our web of trust. Hamish -- Hamish Moffatt VK3SB <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> -- To UNSUBSCRIBE, email to [EMAIL PROTECTED] with a subject o

Re: Bug#345977: ITP: polld -- Polling demon

2006-01-06 Thread Hamish Moffatt
CF card and then plug in the card reader). I Works fine here... /dev/sdc is created when the card reader is plugged in, and /dev/sdc1 is created when I plug in a card. No ugliness required. Hamish -- Hamish Moffatt VK3SB <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> -- To UNSUBSCRIBE, em

Re: init scripts and the "reload" target

2006-01-06 Thread Hamish Moffatt
interpretation of this correct, or am i over-analyzing things? I agree with your interpretation... and believe that most init.d scripts behave this way. Hamish -- Hamish Moffatt VK3SB <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> -- To UNSUBSCRIBE, email to [EMAIL PROTECTED] with a subject of "unsubscribe". Trouble? Contact [EMAIL PROTECTED]

Re: Bug#345977: ITP: polld -- Polling demon

2006-01-06 Thread Hamish Moffatt
On Fri, Jan 06, 2006 at 08:15:14AM -0600, Ron Johnson wrote: > On Fri, 2006-01-06 at 19:24 +1100, Hamish Moffatt wrote: > > On Wed, Jan 04, 2006 at 11:29:07AM -0600, Nathan Poznick wrote: > > > Thus spake Roger Leigh: > > > > What is the problem this is trying to

Re: Need for launchpad

2006-01-08 Thread Hamish Moffatt
ee services a core part of Debian development. Yet Frans proposes we do so with Launchpad. > Oh, I never signed an NDA, so I've never seen the code, actually I'm not > interested in the code, because if I have a problem with the result, I can > file bugs against this products

Re: poppler

2006-01-09 Thread Hamish Moffatt
eam. It's good that not all these packages will have statically-linked copies of xpdf code now. It would be even better if poppler wasn't a fork of Xpdf though. Already poppler is behind on a lot of bug fixes from Xpdf 3.01. I imagine most have been merged by now, but there's a lot

Re: Getting rid of circular dependencies, stage 3

2006-01-09 Thread Hamish Moffatt
checked the apt source, apt doesn't check > for this condition when splitting the to-be-configured list and passing these > chunks to dpkg. Shouldn't apt be fixed rather than changing other packages, then? Hamish -- Hamish Moffatt VK3SB <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> <[EMAIL PROT

Re: Packet radio and foul language

2006-01-10 Thread Hamish Moffatt
an the Internet's. Hamish, VK3SB -- Hamish Moffatt VK3SB <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> -- To UNSUBSCRIBE, email to [EMAIL PROTECTED] with a subject of "unsubscribe". Trouble? Contact [EMAIL PROTECTED]

Re: Packet radio and foul language

2006-01-10 Thread Hamish Moffatt
d into AX.25, which is layer 1/2 for packet radio. But who said anything about IP? Packet radio can carry messages in other layer 3/4/5 protocols than IP/TCP/SMTP. Hamish -- Hamish Moffatt VK3SB <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> -- To UNSUBSCRIBE, email to [EMAIL PROTECTED]

Re: Need for launchpad

2006-01-14 Thread Hamish Moffatt
#x27;ve seem some forks of my packages in universe that I don't want responsibility for, thanks. Hamish -- Hamish Moffatt VK3SB <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> -- To UNSUBSCRIBE, email to [EMAIL PROTECTED] with a subject of "unsubscribe". Trouble? Contact [EMAIL PROTECTED]

Re: Need for launchpad

2006-01-14 Thread Hamish Moffatt
re also not Debian developers, encourages more packages to be forked. Those developers can't make direct Debian uploads even if they want to; at worst they have no interest in contributing to Debian at all. thanks, Hamish -- Hamish Moffatt VK3SB <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> <[EMAIL PROTEC

Re: Need for launchpad

2006-01-15 Thread Hamish Moffatt
On Sun, Jan 15, 2006 at 01:05:11PM +1000, Anthony Towns wrote: > On Sun, Jan 15, 2006 at 12:59:23AM +1100, Hamish Moffatt wrote: > > On Sat, Jan 14, 2006 at 09:42:22AM +0100, Raphael Hertzog wrote: > > > On Fri, 13 Jan 2006, Thomas Bushnell BSG wrote: > > > > U

Re: Need for launchpad

2006-01-15 Thread Hamish Moffatt
ily have "maintainers" for packages. But that's a detail of your implementation, which isn't Debian's concern. The important part is that you provide a contact address (individual or mailing list etc) at Ubuntu, rather than simply falling through to the Debian maintainer.

Re: Canonical's business model

2006-01-15 Thread Hamish Moffatt
er it's paying for those hours in the case of employees). I might help people out with stuff relating to my day job (FPGA/VHDL design fwiw), or even sneak some Debian work on company time, but that's not the same as MyEmployer co-operating with Debian or whoever else. Hamish --

Re: Debian derivatives and the Maintainer: field (again)

2006-01-17 Thread Hamish Moffatt
o do. To be fair, co-operation and attribution are really separate issues. We do need to be consistent about each. Any complaint we have about co-operation with Ubuntu should not mean we have special requirements with regard to attribution. Hamish -- Hamish Moffatt VK3SB <[EMAIL PROTECTE

Re: udev naming problems for eth*

2006-01-19 Thread Hamish Moffatt
was processed before hotplug ran. Now udev runs earlier, making /etc/modules much less useful. :( thanks Hamish -- Hamish Moffatt VK3SB <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> -- To UNSUBSCRIBE, email to [EMAIL PROTECTED] with a subject of "unsubscribe". Trouble? Contact [EMAIL PROTECTED]

Re: Derived distributions and the Maintainer: field

2006-01-22 Thread Hamish Moffatt
ition/having a different toolchain, is a different point. But even so > - We DO try and use as many things as possible from debian unchanged ;) ALSO, new upstream versions which weren't otherwise required for transitions. Example package: xastir. Please don't top post. Hamish -- Hamis

Re: Amendment to GR on GFDL, and the changes to the Social Contract

2006-01-24 Thread Hamish Moffatt
what the argument is, since it appears to be ok by the letter. Of course the spirit is also important but open to interpretation. Hamish -- Hamish Moffatt VK3SB <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> -- To UNSUBSCRIBE, email to [EMAIL PROTECTED] with a subject of "unsubscribe". Trouble? Contact [EMAIL PROTECTED]

Re: Amendment to GR on GFDL, and the changes to the Social Contract

2006-02-09 Thread Hamish Moffatt
27;t it obviously the copyright holder's intention that you be able to build the software, including the automatic relicensing? Isn't there an implicit grant of permission? There may be good examples of GFDL/GPL interaction problems, but the above example is absurd, IMHO. Hamish -- Hamish

Re: Amendment to GR on GFDL, and the changes to the Social Contract

2006-02-10 Thread Hamish Moffatt
st historic now and not something that will ever be agreed on. Nor is there any particular benefit in trying to agree on it now. Hamish -- Hamish Moffatt VK3SB <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> -- To UNSUBSCRIBE, email to [EMAIL PROTECTED] with a subject of "unsubscribe". Trouble? Contact [EMAIL PROTECTED]

Re: Bug#353277: ndiswrapper in main

2006-02-21 Thread Hamish Moffatt
non-free firmware? Then ndiswrapper should be in contrib and we shouldn't pretend otherwise. Hamish -- Hamish Moffatt VK3SB <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> -- To UNSUBSCRIBE, email to [EMAIL PROTECTED] with a subject of "unsubscribe". Trouble? Contact [EMAIL PROTECTED]

Re: Bug#353277: ndiswrapper in main

2006-02-27 Thread Hamish Moffatt
lay a usage screen? Anything more?) > The fact that most people use it to enable non-free drivers to work is > largely irrelevant - most people use wine and various other emulators > for similar purposes. This is also true of flashplugin-nonfree. Hamish -- Hamish Moffatt VK3SB <[EMAIL

Re: Bug#353277: ndiswrapper in main

2006-02-28 Thread Hamish Moffatt
On Tue, Feb 28, 2006 at 10:31:17AM +, Stephen Gran wrote: > This one time, at band camp, Hamish Moffatt said: > > flashplugin-nonfree itself contains scripts which I presume meet the > > DFSG. Do you think we should put it in main? > > I assume this is a troll, and you

Re: Attractive platform for Debian people interested in ARM: NSLU2

2006-03-15 Thread Hamish Moffatt
27;t really need 100Gb for it. Hamish -- Hamish Moffatt VK3SB <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> -- To UNSUBSCRIBE, email to [EMAIL PROTECTED] with a subject of "unsubscribe". Trouble? Contact [EMAIL PROTECTED]

Re: GCC cross-compilation

1997-06-24 Thread Hamish Moffatt
not see a reason why compilation should be at all dependent on the host platform. In any case, I mentioned this originally because I'd just compiled gcc for the 6811, to run in i386. I don't think an 8 bit machine with 64k of address space will run gcc .. Hamish -- Hamish Moffatt, Stu

Re: Re^4: Status of Debian Policy

1997-06-24 Thread Hamish Moffatt
On Mon, Jun 23, 1997 at 02:56:37PM +0200, Milan Zamazal wrote: > I can see no reason for *dropping* info. My dislike for info is for the same reasons as my dislike for emacs; the command set is huge and not at all intuitive. Hamish -- Hamish Moffatt, StudIEAust[EM

Re: linux/unix to NT

1997-12-02 Thread Hamish Moffatt
e other way round; samba lets you turn your unix box into a > windows network compatible fileserver. There is a client (which would do > what you describe) for linux, called smbfs. smbclient (which comes with Samba) allows access to NT shares from Linux, but it is not integrated with the

Re: bo-updates packages

1997-12-03 Thread Hamish Moffatt
On Tue, Dec 02, 1997 at 08:39:35PM -0500, Joey Hess wrote: > Hamish Moffatt wrote: > > To control the version number of the .deb produced, you can either > > add something to the changelog (which isn't desirable in this case > > I think), or call dpkg-gencontrol with

(fwd) cutils version 1.5.2 - C language miscellaneous utilities

1997-12-04 Thread Hamish Moffatt
ND PGP SIGNATURE- -- end of forwarded message -- -- Hamish Moffatt, StudIEAust [EMAIL PROTECTED], [EMAIL PROTECTED] Student, computer science & computer systems engineering.3rd year, RMIT. http://hamish.home.ml.org/ (PGP key here) CPOM: [**] 60% Your train h

Re: bo-updates packages

1997-12-05 Thread Hamish Moffatt
me libraries. With such a system, you can run libc6 binaries but compilation is done for libc5, etc. I have such a system and it works fine. (3. try to backport the package yourself.) Hamish -- Hamish Moffatt, [EMAIL PROTECTED], [EMAIL PROTECTED], [EMAIL PROTECTED] Latest Debian packag

libc5 backports problem

1997-12-07 Thread Hamish Moffatt
to backport on a completely-bo given this factor, unless I am missing something .. That said I am working on some of mine, and they are at ftp://ftp.rising.com.au/pub/hamish/libc5 So far I have cam done, working on guavac. Most of mine are new for hamm though. hamish -- Hamish Moffatt, [

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