Re: APT hosed, segving in libapt-pkg-libc6.9-6.so.4.8.1

2009-08-29 Thread David Kalnischkies
Hi Frans Pop & debian-devel, > Thanks! David Kalnischkies and I were able to reproduce a crash for > sources that had no Packages file. This is fixed with the 0.7.23.1 For anybody further interested in the bug: Something like a index-out-of-bounce, but libapt didn't access th

Re: APT hosed, segving in libapt-pkg-libc6.9-6.so.4.8.1

2009-08-29 Thread David Kalnischkies
> I looked in /usr/share/doc/apt/examples/configure-index.gz first, but I > could not find it there. Should it be added? Yes, it should be. A few others seems to be missing also... Will be added in the next upload round. >> The description is far from being perfect and a few things are missing >>

Re: APT do not work with Squid as a proxy because of pipelining default

2010-05-19 Thread David Kalnischkies
bug) As we all know APT is a debian native tool and the base of a whole bunch of other stuff so beside ranting about his shortcomings we could also work on patches as the people with enough knowledge to do this seems to be already around in this thread. Thanks in advance and best regards, Davi

Re: Looking for maintainers of Spacewalk packages

2010-05-28 Thread David Kalnischkies
e to join de...@lists.d.o for discussions/questions about APT. :) http://lists.debian.org/deity/ Best regards, David Kalnischkies -- To UNSUBSCRIBE, email to debian-devel-requ...@lists.debian.org with a subject of "unsubscribe". Trouble? Contact listmas...@lists.debian

Re: Improving in-place upgrades of Ada packages from Lenny to Squeeze

2010-05-28 Thread David Kalnischkies
uestions are a better fit in d-mentors) and not what you think is a bug in a package manager - if it is really a bug it should be expressed with a proper bugreport against the package manager in question… Best regards, David Kalnischkies (Debian APT GSoC student) -- To UNSUBSCRIBE, email to deb

Re: Improving in-place upgrades of Ada packages from Lenny to Squeeze

2010-05-30 Thread David Kalnischkies
2010/5/29 Ludovic Brenta : > David Kalnischkies writes: >> No. Replaces is used to say to dpkg: It is okay that this package >> overrides files of the other package - otherwise dpkg would complain >> loudly for good reasons. It doesn't say something about the >> u

Re: Improving in-place upgrades of Ada packages from Lenny to Squeeze

2010-05-31 Thread David Kalnischkies
2010/5/30 Ludovic Brenta : > David Kalnischkies writes: >> 2010/5/29 Ludovic Brenta : >>> David Kalnischkies writes: >>>> No. Replaces is used to say to dpkg: It is okay that this package >>>> overrides files of the other package - otherwise dpkg would

Re: Improving in-place upgrades of Ada packages from Lenny to Squeeze

2010-05-31 Thread David Kalnischkies
2010/5/31 Ludovic Brenta : > David Kalnischkies wrote: >> 2010/5/30 Ludovic Brenta : >>> The consequence is that, despite the fact that these packages are > broken >>> (without the need for a Breaks: in their successor packages, BTW), >>> aptitude prefers to

Re: Improving in-place upgrades of Ada packages from Lenny to Squeeze

2010-06-01 Thread David Kalnischkies
ks or Conflicts. Breaks is in general the nicer Conflict - in some way they are the negative version of Depends and Pre-Depends: Conflicts must be satisfied before the package is unpacked - so both packages can't be in unpack (or higher) at the same time, while Breaks only says that both can'

Re: A Look In the Mirror: Attacks on Package Managers

2010-06-06 Thread David Kalnischkies
mplement it, hints regarding a good error message are welcomed as i can currently only thing about stuff like: >>>>> W: http://debian.example.org squeeze Release: The Validation date for the archive has expired. (This can indicate an outdated mirror.) <<<<<

Re: Improving in-place upgrades of Ada packages from Lenny to Squeeze

2010-06-06 Thread David Kalnischkies
(better late than never) 2010/6/1 Jacob Sparre Andersen : > David Kalnischkies wrote: >> 2010/5/31 Ludovic Brenta : >>> Question 2: if I add Breaks: to a -dev package, which ones of Conflicts: >>> and Replaces: should I also specify? (currently, both are specified; t

Re: Improving in-place upgrades of Ada packages from Lenny to Squeeze

2010-06-06 Thread David Kalnischkies
(better late than never) 2010/6/3 Ludovic Brenta : > Jacob Sparre Andersen writes: >> David Kalnischkies wrote: >>> With the break you can force the update of old-libs, which >>> could depend in their new version on the new-libs. > > OK, I just tried that (in

Re: Improving in-place upgrades of Ada packages from Lenny to Squeeze

2010-06-06 Thread David Kalnischkies
t; > Could you shed some light or point me to some doc as to how this feature > works?  I'd like to know whether it can solve the problem or not. E.g here http://wiki.debian.org/Renaming_a_Package It is not documented very well currently as it can't be used for squeeze and would

Re: Improve support for installing 32-bit libraries on 64-bit systems

2010-06-25 Thread David Kalnischkies
volunteer to work on b) [0] - and the good thing is, you can even try and play with it already - you just need an apt/experimental build (, a bit of luck) and the right configuration options. See also README.MultiArch, but (yes, correct, shameless self-advertisement). Best regards, David Kal

Re: Improve support for installing 32-bit libraries on 64-bit systems

2010-06-28 Thread David Kalnischkies
2010/6/26 Luca Bruno : > David Kalnischkies scrisse: >> The biggest showstoppers are as far as i know that >> a) dpkg doesn't support it >> b) APT doesn't support it >> c) (not many) packages use it (last time i check ~24) >> >> c) is likel

Re: Bug#592877: ITP: apt2 -- Advanced Package Tool 2

2010-08-15 Thread David Kalnischkies
(cross post to merge the two "independent" threads http://lists.debian.org/debian-devel/2010/08/msg00338.html http://lists.debian.org/deity/2010/08/msg00097.html and to ensure everyone has the same information. In case you want to discuss the topic feel free to do it at deity@) We started this dis

Re: Activating t-p-u by default (was: Re: For those who care about their packages in Debian)

2010-08-26 Thread David Kalnischkies
will wait with an upgrade until this one or newer is in proper testing… So, to let that actually work a user should not have a default-release… Long story short: If you want to get updates from an archive only if you pushed a version previously from it: 100 => pin > 500. Best regards D

Re: Activating t-p-u by default (was: Re: For those who care about their packages in Debian)

2010-08-28 Thread David Kalnischkies
2010/8/26 Carsten Hey : > * David Kalnischkies [2010-08-26 17:43 +0200]: >> Long story short: >> If you want to get updates from an archive only if you pushed a version >> previously from it: 100 => pin > 500. > > Wouldn't adding a new field to Release files s

Re: Google Summer of Code 2010 Debian Report

2010-09-23 Thread David Kalnischkies
e treated like a second or third class member I can flip a few burgers and harvest grapes and asparagus instead¹. I don't need to chose debian for that if we would agree that we should handle students as consults… The student need to be convinced to choose debian as organization and at best (s)he

Re: Packages/DiffIndex

2010-10-20 Thread David Kalnischkies
use one of the "bigger" tools to maintain your archive directly. But, you say that it is "small", so i am tempted to say that pdiffs aren't worthed the hassle. They can be useful if the Packages file is really big and constantly updated, but if it is small… pdiffs have a

Re: How to add dependencies that exist in another repository

2010-11-10 Thread David Kalnischkies
s - and after all I can do a lot more in maintainer scripts than adding a sources.list entry, so "mysteriously" added sources.list entries are not a disease (or a misfeature of APT to allow it) but a symptom of the widespread disease of trusting random packages from an unknown sources… B

Re: How to add dependencies that exist in another repository

2010-11-11 Thread David Kalnischkies
ckages In that example you can also see why the sequence is important - swap the stanzas in the preferences file and all archives which match o=Debian will be pinned to 400 - which includes experimental! But if that doesn't work i guess a bug report is better suited than proceeding in hijack

Re: Full install/removal/upgrade test results available

2010-11-19 Thread David Kalnischkies
-plugin at all. Any > idea? xfce4-mcs-manager recommends it. As APT has no indication that this package can go away it does the only right thing (TM): Chooses to keep xfce4-mcs-plugins as otherwise the user will lose functionality… (recommends are defined as installed on all, expect "unusual&q

Re: Full install/removal/upgrade test results available

2010-11-19 Thread David Kalnischkies
On Fri, Nov 19, 2010 at 12:59, Yves-Alexis Perez wrote: > On 19/11/2010 12:29, David Kalnischkies wrote: >> xfce4-mcs-manager recommends it. >> As APT has no indication that this package can go away it does the >> only right thing (TM): Chooses to keep xfce4-mcs-plugins as

Re: Full install/removal/upgrade test results available

2010-11-19 Thread David Kalnischkies
On Fri, Nov 19, 2010 at 22:10, Yves-Alexis Perez wrote: > On ven., 2010-11-19 at 19:23 +0100, David Kalnischkies wrote: > >> >> So, go and start reading. Debian has a lot of dependencies and you have a >> lot of possibilities because of that. >> You can't use

Re: [vu...@gnome.org: Cross-distro meeting about application installer]

2011-01-12 Thread David Kalnischkies
with our friends from ubuntu we should have a broad coverage and voice for debian in the meeting and a lot to discuss but feel free to provide (additional) topics and opinions for us to bring along to ensure they will be all covered. Best regards David Kalnischkies -- To UNSUBSCRIBE, email

Re: Results of the App Installer Meeting

2011-01-27 Thread David Kalnischkies
days, but to add another quote: "It's xml, so we can add anything we like/need later". I guess the DDTP project will be part of follow-up discussions as it is similar to debtags and screenshots - its more or less the only working solution - and you are right: all of them are badly n

Re: Results of the App Installer Meeting

2011-01-27 Thread David Kalnischkies
On Thu, Jan 27, 2011 at 13:45, Andreas Tille wrote: > On Thu, Jan 27, 2011 at 12:55:36PM +0100, David Kalnischkies wrote: >> If I remember correctly, DDTP got a short mention and the result was: >> "Wow, debian really has translations for package descriptions?!?" >&

Re: does aptitude really need to lock the status database when downloading?

2011-02-04 Thread David Kalnischkies
. Workarounds were already presented, so i just want to add that you can also disable locking completely with Debug::NoLocking in apt-get (i guess aptitude accepts it also, but i haven't test it) if you are feeling *extremely* lucky… Best regards David Kalnischkies -- To UNSUBSCRIBE, e

Re: Pre-Depends: dpkg (>= 1.15.7.2) for dpkg-maintscript-helper okay?

2011-03-07 Thread David Kalnischkies
o generate "interesting" trees with it like #610991. That said, as dpkg is essential it gets a preferred handling anyway in APT (and friends) and will be unpacked/configured before non-essentials, so in this specific case its more or less a no-op (in squeeze -> wheezy upgrade), but tha

Re: Mirror problems?

2011-03-13 Thread David Kalnischkies
really impatient - as long as the mirror hasn't switch to the usage of the newest ftpsync tool of course… btw: The documentation on [0] doesn't include the InRelease file yet. Any pointers where to "complain" about that? d-mirror, d-www, d-…? Best regards The hashsum mismatcher

Re: holes in secure apt

2014-06-17 Thread David Kalnischkies
On Mon, Jun 16, 2014 at 12:04:51PM +0200, Thorsten Glaser wrote: > On Thu, 12 Jun 2014, David Kalnischkies wrote: > > For your attack to be (always) successful, you need a full-sources > > mirror on which you modify all tarballs, so that you can build a valid > > Sources file.

Re: improving downloader packages (was: Re: holes in secure apt)

2014-06-18 Thread David Kalnischkies
new hash implementations - provided we would have an implementation available of course. Best regards David Kalnischkies signature.asc Description: Digital signature

Re: Bug#752589: scowl: Please mark packages as Multi-Arch: foreign

2014-06-25 Thread David Kalnischkies
"magic" would have made sense anyhow, but I am not sure it is a good idea to change it now after 1½ releases supporting it differently – and more importantly for me personally: APT isn't going to support any of this before dpkg does. Once bitten, twice shy… Best regards David Kalnischkies signature.asc Description: Digital signature

Re: Let's shrink Packages.xz

2014-07-16 Thread David Kalnischkies
ficult to explain which ones these are without expecting a good understanding of how files are acquired by apt, so I go with a "each time we can do it for free" which is surprisingly often 'thanks' to our architecture). Best regards David Kalnischkies signature.asc Description: Digital signature

Re: Let's shrink Packages.xz

2014-07-16 Thread David Kalnischkies
t every parser in the universe needs to be rewritten… (one of apts testcases uses 'rev' as a "compression" algorithm. You just need to set some options, advertise the availability in the Release file and you are good to go…) Best regards David Kalnischkies signature.asc Description: Digital signature

Re: Solutions for the Apache upgrade hell

2014-07-16 Thread David Kalnischkies
packages - it is simply needed and part of the job description of a package manager. We have a "apt-get autoremove" for removing packages apt things might not be needed anymore. aptitude does run it by default. Best regards David Kalnischkies signature.asc Description: Digital signature

Re: Let's shrink Packages.xz

2014-07-16 Thread David Kalnischkies
On Wed, Jul 16, 2014 at 02:23:34PM +0200, David Kalnischkies wrote: > With a slight change in semantic we could drop the field from the > Packages file again anyhow: At the moment it is the MD5sum of the long > description. If it isn't present the clients are expected to calc

Re: Bug#756022: ITP: apt-transport-s3 -- APT transport for privately held AWS S3 repositories

2014-07-26 Thread David Kalnischkies
an at least oldstable). You can populate a netrc-like file at /etc/apt/auth.conf with them (create it if you must and set for it the permissions to your liking!). Best regards David Kalnischkies signature.asc Description: Digital signature

Re: apt-get install sysvinit-core removes gnome?

2014-10-18 Thread David Kalnischkies
wisely as you will loose functionality" all the way down to "this is a transitional package nobody will miss". If you have a clever idea how to solve this, I am all ears… Moo, David Kalnischkies signature.asc Description: Digital signature

Re: apt-get install sysvinit-core removes gnome?

2014-10-20 Thread David Kalnischkies
On Sun, Oct 19, 2014 at 09:32:54AM +0200, Matthias Urlichs wrote: > David Kalnischkies: > > > Apitude, too, *really* likes to choose 500 deletions rather than upgrading > > > even a single package to a version with slightly-lower priority (as > > > defined > >

Re: apt-get install sysvinit-core removes gnome?

2014-10-20 Thread David Kalnischkies
for that. Not only because I am lazy, but because it would mean that everyone would have done a pretty crappy job making Debian jessie the best release ever if no init works reliably [totally unbiased on this one] ) Best regards David Kalnischkies signature.asc Description: Digital signature

Re: question about "Conflicts:"

2012-04-23 Thread David Kalnischkies
nt in foo, foo-provider or your foo-conflicter… so, why you want to do that? Best regards David Kalnischkies P.S.: These kind of questions seem better suited for debian-mentors@l.d.o. -- To UNSUBSCRIBE, email to debian-devel-requ...@lists.debian.org with a subject of "unsubscribe". Tro

Re: question about "Conflicts:"

2012-04-23 Thread David Kalnischkies
On Mon, Apr 23, 2012 at 10:35, David Kalnischkies wrote: > On Mon, Apr 23, 2012 at 09:17, Harald Dunkel wrote: >> How can I tell a Debian package to conflict with a real >> package "foo", but not with other packages providing "foo"? > > That is easy:

Re: APT Signature verification public key

2012-04-24 Thread David Kalnischkies
pt's gpgv method (/usr/lib/apt/methods/gpgv) text interface instead of reimplementing them, depending on what you actually need. Best regards David Kalnischkies -- To UNSUBSCRIBE, email to debian-devel-requ...@lists.debian.org with a subject of "unsubscribe". Troubl

Bug#671503: general: APT repository format is not documented

2012-05-04 Thread David Kalnischkies
I would personal tend toward ftp-master to be the authority with reference implementation being dak, but they have no public mailinglist and dak isn't used by all derivatives… Best regards David Kalnischkies -- To UNSUBSCRIBE, email to debian-devel-requ...@lists.debian.org with

Re: Version for a returning package

2012-05-14 Thread David Kalnischkies
since 14. Apr 2009 (aka 0.7.21) which means stable (squeeze) supports it. Everyone who likes that should be thanking Jeff Licquia and Anthony Towns, everyone who doesn't has to set Acquire::http::AllowRedirect to false. Best regards David Kalnischkies -- To UNSUBSCRIBE, email to deb

Re: Version for a returning package

2012-05-14 Thread David Kalnischkies
On Mon, May 14, 2012 at 12:36 PM, Jonas Smedegaard wrote: > On 12-05-14 at 09:51am, David Kalnischkies wrote: >> On Sun, May 13, 2012 at 7:41 PM, Jonas Smedegaard wrote: >> > Not yet switched but renewed the old name, advertising new site one >> > only in words

Re: Wheezy release: CDs are not big enough any more...

2012-05-14 Thread David Kalnischkies
lled. Beside maybe wasting bandwidth in that case (for the sake of same version for everyone in general) a pretty well defined behavior from my POV. Best regards David Kalnischkies -- To UNSUBSCRIBE, email to debian-devel-requ...@lists.debian.org with a subject of "unsubscribe". Trouble? Contact listmas...@lists.debian.org Archive: http://lists.debian.org/caaz6_fbr_8a1thg+pre-4cnuweenom9el07m+w+jw__svgc...@mail.gmail.com

Re: Wheezy release: CDs are not big enough any more...

2012-05-15 Thread David Kalnischkies
On Tue, May 15, 2012 at 2:56 AM, Russ Allbery wrote: > Charles Plessy writes: >> Le Tue, May 15, 2012 at 01:54:53AM +0200, David Kalnischkies a écrit : > >>> And the fields defining a difference in versions are: >>> Installed-Size, Depends, Pre-Depends,

Re: Bug#481129: Bug#671503: general: APT repository format is not documented

2012-05-17 Thread David Kalnischkies
w that thought, the only repository which should give any indication on how APT might work is the one created by the ftpmasters. Actually that is not really true as APT could basically do anything, but if it wants to keep the status 'debian native' package it better should. And ftpmas

Re: Bug#481129: Bug#671503: general: APT repository format is not documented

2012-05-20 Thread David Kalnischkies
bly a lot of 404's. Best combined with a strong recommendation on signing them. Best regards David Kalnischkies P.S.: Could we please stop talking to three bugs and two mailinglists? Especially as [0] suggests it is the wrong list… [0] http://lists.debian.org/debian-devel/20

Re: amd64 as default architecture

2012-05-20 Thread David Kalnischkies
rea which isn't short on complexity already. And that just for the "once in a blue moon" encounter of a crossgrade?) Best regards David Kalnischkies -- To UNSUBSCRIBE, email to debian-devel-requ...@lists.debian.org with a subject of "unsubscribe". Trouble? Contact li

Re: "could not perform immediate configuration"

2012-06-24 Thread David Kalnischkies
Transitional packages are your friend, conflicts are not" D.K. I would be delighted by the quote, if I wouldn't be a bit embarrassed that this comes from a mail I am not particular proud of … Internet, "thou art a heartless bitch" (sometimes). (or instead of blaming the we

Re: Introducing http.debian.net, Debian's mirrors redirector

2012-06-28 Thread David Kalnischkies
;t download the indexes for the pdiffs - but this is done also only a single time) Best regards David Kalnischkies -- To UNSUBSCRIBE, email to debian-devel-requ...@lists.debian.org with a subject of "unsubscribe". Trouble? Contact listmas...@lists.debian.org Archive: http://list

Re: Bug#680226: lib{nss,pam}-ldapd: apt wants to remove them on dist-upgrade in favour of lib{nss,pam}-ldap:i386

2012-07-06 Thread David Kalnischkies
allowed Which dpkg version is that? But as said, you can't use architecture specific dependencies in wheezy. (The message is a bit confusing, :any doesn't make a lot of sense here provided that it is the same without :any … or worse: any could mean we are conflicting only with one

Re: Recommends for metapackages

2012-07-10 Thread David Kalnischkies
d stop talking in that style at all, but I don't use n-m, so in that specific case, I don't care …) Best regards David Kalnischkies, who doesn't know whether to laugh or cry about these kind of threads … -- To UNSUBSCRIBE, email to debian-devel-requ...@lists.debian.org with a sub

Re: apt-get fails with "system" message bus problem

2012-09-03 Thread David Kalnischkies
se e.g. apt-get download debian-archive-keyring/stable (beside that this functionality is not in squeeze of course, but aptitude has a similar command - but I haven't tried) If you can convince me, the functionality might magically appear one day in an APT version … ;) Best regards Davi

Re: Algorithm for selecting between packages providing the same phpapi-20100525, change between squeeze -> wheezy

2013-05-23 Thread David Kalnischkies
Also: build-dependencies, but that is probably not an issue for PHP. Best regards David Kalnischkies -- To UNSUBSCRIBE, email to debian-devel-requ...@lists.debian.org with a subject of "unsubscribe". Trouble? Contact listmas...@lists.debian.org Archive: http://lists.debian.org/caaz6_fdjfr7jvnx6b0wgttjpunbhhsmzuw48chmn2kmf-de...@mail.gmail.com

Re: Berkeley DB 6.0 license change to AGPLv3

2013-07-03 Thread David Kalnischkies
isn't depending on apt-ftparchive anymore ["just" "some" derivatives use it nowadays], so the binary is even less important than you might think/remember. Disclaimer: This is not a remark regarding AGPL. I am just trying to correct misunderstandings in regards to APT.

Re: Algorithm for selecting between packages providing the same phpapi-20100525, change between squeeze -> wheezy

2013-07-09 Thread David Kalnischkies
riteria the solver might want. (Still no checked what aptitude uses, but I bet its some sort of 'least disruptive changes' which is obviously better than priority alone, but not at all working in your favor of course) Best regards David Kalnischkies -- To UNSUBSCRIBE

Re: [Popcon-developers] Encrypted popcon submissions

2013-07-11 Thread David Kalnischkies
n I guess, but in case someone else reads the thread). Best regards David Kalnischkies -- To UNSUBSCRIBE, email to debian-devel-requ...@lists.debian.org with a subject of "unsubscribe". Trouble? Contact listmas...@lists.debian.org Archive: http://lists.debian.org/CAAZ6_fCtK_OcAwN8CcBG21CKCoJwcoouU36KhVSn_q=6_lu...@mail.gmail.com

Re: Survey answers part 3: systemd is not portable and what this means for our ports

2013-07-14 Thread David Kalnischkies
end of the GSoC project. And there's also upstart as a quite >> realistic option too. > > > The difference is, however, systemd is already there […] It is not "already there". That was the whole freaking point of this "survey". There is still enough time for

Re: Survey answers part 3: systemd is not portable and what this means for our ports

2013-07-14 Thread David Kalnischkies
On Sun, Jul 14, 2013 at 2:38 PM, John Paul Adrian Glaubitz wrote: > On 07/14/2013 01:09 PM, David Kalnischkies wrote: >> >> At least I am seriously expecting that Debian isn't discarding the outcome >> of a project it has officially endorsed to be under its umbrella fo

Re: Survey answers part 3: systemd is not portable and what this means for our ports

2013-07-14 Thread David Kalnischkies
On Sun, Jul 14, 2013 at 3:47 PM, Florian Weimer wrote: > * David Kalnischkies: > >> GSoC in Debian was announced a long time ago, enough time to raise >> any objections against any proposed project. > > Not really, a GSoC project doesn't come with any guarantee, imp

Re: Survey answers part 3: systemd is not portable and what this means for our ports

2013-07-15 Thread David Kalnischkies
On Mon, Jul 15, 2013 at 2:56 AM, Ben Hutchings wrote: > On Sun, 2013-07-14 at 13:09 +0200, David Kalnischkies wrote: >> On Sun, Jul 14, 2013 at 10:57 AM, John Paul Adrian Glaubitz >> wrote: >> > On 07/14/2013 06:45 AM, Thomas Goirand wrote: >> >> >> >

Re: Survey answers part 3: systemd is not portable and what this means for our ports

2013-07-19 Thread David Kalnischkies
nalysis are obviously flawed as this popcon data can't really be interpreted that way as its an apple to banana comparison and way too few datapoints, but everyone likes misinterpret statistics as "proven" by this thread – and statistics say that I am a pro-faker! "I only believe in

Re: Status of deb(5) format support in Debian

2013-07-31 Thread David Kalnischkies
" ~5 because libapt includes one, so it could be misused by others (anyone remember the kernel depending on libapt-pkg-perl?). Best regards David Kalnischkies P.S.: Could the table be enhanced with a description for the table headers? I have no idea what an "ar slash" might be, and not r

Re: new hashes (SHA512, SHA3) in apt metadata and .changes files?

2013-08-02 Thread David Kalnischkies
ot; is the reason that it isn't mentioned in the wiki. Best regards David Kalnischkies -- To UNSUBSCRIBE, email to debian-devel-requ...@lists.debian.org with a subject of "unsubscribe". Trouble? Contact listmas...@lists.debian.org Archive: http://lists.debian.org/caaz6_fbswkxvu5ugcw8qjnerfxfqp8azcfxj5otecf1zsnf...@mail.gmail.com

Re: new hashes (SHA512, SHA3) in apt metadata and .changes files?

2013-08-02 Thread David Kalnischkies
and as a bonus, the filesize has to match as well – not to mention that the file has to make sense…) and at the time we do SHA1 is probably not an interesting candidate. Best regards David Kalnischkies [0] expect in pdiffs as that is the only supported in there so far -- To UNSUBSCRIBE, email

Re: Bug#709758: Replacing a binary package by another one(was: Communication issue?)

2013-09-05 Thread David Kalnischkies
at some point in my history-digging, can't find it now though. I think the most interesting point against such a relation might be: Package: aptitude Obsoletes: apt (Not that we would be in a fight, but many people think we are, so lets just add some fuel for them. KDE & Gnome wor

Re: Bug#709758: Replacing a binary package by another one(was: Communication issue?)

2013-09-06 Thread David Kalnischkies
On Thu, Sep 5, 2013 at 11:34 PM, Philipp Kern wrote: > On 2013-09-05 11:15, David Kalnischkies wrote: > [ Provides/Replaces up thread ] > >> The policy defines two uses of Replaces: > > […] > >> So my simple question is, which combination of relations should that &g

Re: Looking for ideas for merging a micro package...

2013-09-06 Thread David Kalnischkies
her people for your bugs next time. I "recommend" reading debian-policy (§7.2). Best regards David Kalnischkies -- To UNSUBSCRIBE, email to debian-devel-requ...@lists.debian.org with a subject of "unsubscribe". Trouble? Contact listmas...@lists.debian.org

Re: Bug#709758: Replacing a binary package by another one(was: Communication issue?)

2013-09-06 Thread David Kalnischkies
On Fri, Sep 6, 2013 at 4:16 PM, Simon McVittie wrote: > On 06/09/13 10:17, David Kalnischkies wrote: >> For example, you made mplayer2 now an upgrade for mplayer. >> I am not sure that is what their maintainers/upstreams intend. >> (maybe it is, but I am not keen on letting f

Re: Bug#709758: Replacing a binary package by another one(was: Communication issue?)

2013-09-06 Thread David Kalnischkies
) is no longer needed … Not that this would make the life of a maintainer necessarily easier, but it at least frees the user (and the package manager) from deciding if this remove requires user-attention or is just boring house-keeping. Best regards David Kalnischkies -- To UNSUBSCRIBE, emai

Re: [RFC] multiarch and virtual packages

2013-10-03 Thread David Kalnischkies
is architecture specific by design). And could the virtual package maybe named 'opencl-loader-api-1' or something? Best regards David Kalnischkies P.S.: If you wanna play, try APTs testcases. :) -- To UNSUBSCRIBE, email to debian-devel-requ...@lists.debian.org with a subject of &

Re: Please assume good faith

2013-10-25 Thread David Kalnischkies
systemd" isn't an init system. 'Normal' programs like GNOME do not depend on an init system as much as they don't depend on a package manager. They depend on a certain userland, like GNU, BSD, Plan9, busybox or … yes, or systemd. It just happens to be that this userland contains

Re: Please assume good faith

2013-10-28 Thread David Kalnischkies
On Sat, Oct 26, 2013 at 4:31 AM, Nikolaus Rath wrote: > David Kalnischkies writes: >> On Fri, Oct 25, 2013 at 11:31 PM, Nikolaus Rath wrote: >>> Thorsten Glaser writes: >>>> Lars Wirzenius liw.fi> writes: >>>>> I write a backup pro

Re: Description-less packages file

2011-11-09 Thread David Kalnischkies
ed up, even through his was dropped by other lists, too… All i can say about that: "Et tu, deity@l.d.o?" debian-l10n-devel is properly right: Too many to-addresses… Best regards David Kalnischkies [1] http://lists.alioth.debian.org/pipermail/debian-l10n-devel/2011-Novem

Re: Managing left-over configuration files

2011-12-14 Thread David Kalnischkies
after an upgrade. So please > %s/control/configuration/g. May be I shouldn't try to ask questions > after midnight :-) I think what you mean is best described/covered with the advice to have a look at the manpage of 'dpkg-maintscript-helper', but i must confess that the que

Re: Bug#652275: Guided partitioning should not offer separate /usr, /var, and /tmp partitions; leave that to manual partitioning

2011-12-18 Thread David Kalnischkies
values and i am sure we will be happy to incorporate it. And please provide a valid email address in this report so we can forward all messages complaining about these new default to you. While looking forward to your bugreport, Best regards David Kalnischkies -- To UNSUBSCRIBE, email to debia

Re: Bug#652891: ITP: nerdtree -- Nerdtree is a vim plugin which gives a tree view of all the directories

2011-12-24 Thread David Kalnischkies
ts own, but submitted > as a patch to vim-scripts. There is already a bug+patch for it in the bts: http://bugs.debian.org/cgi-bin/bugreport.cgi?bug=624661 So you might want to contact the author, update/check the patch and ping the maintainer(s) to get it included. Best regards Dav

Re: Please test gzip -9n - related to dpkg with multiarch support

2012-02-09 Thread David Kalnischkies
if you can go into details what you remember exactly we might be able to work on it - until then, my only comment to adding more packages: "What should possible go wrong?" ;) If APT survives i386 packages in amd64, it might survive some new ones, too. Best regards David Ka

Re: Multiarch file overlap summary and proposal

2012-02-15 Thread David Kalnischkies
lse in this multiarch-discussion was hinted that we could sync on the version in (optional) Source tag instead to allow binNMU. It's a bit too late (in my timezone) for me to do serious predictions on difficult-levels on changing this in APT but i guess its relatively easy. (the only problem i

Re: Multiarch file overlap summary and proposal

2012-02-16 Thread David Kalnischkies
On Thu, Feb 16, 2012 at 09:26, Goswin von Brederlow wrote: > Russ Allbery writes: >> David Kalnischkies writes: >>> On Thu, Feb 16, 2012 at 00:39, Russ Allbery wrote: >> >>>> Actually, why would that be the behavior?  Why would dpkg --purge foo >>&g

Re: Multiarch file overlap summary and proposal

2012-02-17 Thread David Kalnischkies
On Thu, Feb 16, 2012 at 23:10, Carsten Hey wrote: > * David Kalnischkies [2012-02-16 03:59 +0100]: >> On Thu, Feb 16, 2012 at 00:39, Russ Allbery wrote: >> >>>   it needs to find and remove foo:* > > foo:all (or foo:any) instead of foo:* would save the need to

Re: Multiarch file overlap summary and proposal

2012-02-17 Thread David Kalnischkies
On Fri, Feb 17, 2012 at 15:46, Jonathan Nieder wrote: > David Kalnischkies wrote: > >> You generously left out the paragraph describing how APT should >> detect that the package foo is in fact a library and not, say, a >> plugin, a dev-package, a dbg-package or a fut

Re: Multiarch file overlap summary and proposal

2012-02-17 Thread David Kalnischkies
On Fri, Feb 17, 2012 at 19:53, Carsten Hey wrote: > * David Kalnischkies [2012-02-17 14:15 +0100]: >> You generously left out the paragraph describing how APT should >> detect that the package foo is in fact a library ... > > My impression was that you think very library cent

Re: thoughts on blocking and downgrade attacks agains secure APT

2012-03-20 Thread David Kalnischkies
pefully) some debian contributors (yes, not necessarily developers) are upstream for this package. In your case de...@lists.debian.org has the experts (but i should warn you: 1. this is not a big army 2. you might end up talking to me again 3. not every front-end has a representative on that list

Re: Debian should move away from MD5 (and at best also from SHA1) (in secure APT and friends)

2012-10-12 Thread David Kalnischkies
lation-* files as a description without caring for Description-md5 ("side" problem still applies though). Best regards David Kalnischkies -- To UNSUBSCRIBE, email to debian-devel-requ...@lists.debian.org with a subject of "unsubscribe". Trouble? Contact listmas...@lists.debian.org Archive: http://lists.debian.org/CAAZ6_fAgOpwsdmmjZXm5P_UocZ0CjEsx=ohoe2gg_rybwnc...@mail.gmail.com

Re: Backports upgrade policy (ButAutomaticUpdates:yes)

2013-01-24 Thread David Kalnischkies
o have as default for backports, regardless of the drawbacks it has as the alternative default is worse if not managed carefully. (but as I said two years ago, not my decision either way) Best regards David Kalnischkies -- To UNSUBSCRIBE, email to debian-devel-requ...@lists.debian.org with a s

Re: Backports upgrade policy (ButAutomaticUpdates:yes)

2013-01-25 Thread David Kalnischkies
On Fri, Jan 25, 2013 at 2:19 PM, Henrique de Moraes Holschuh wrote: > On Fri, 25 Jan 2013, Wookey wrote: >> +++ martin f krafft [2013-01-25 16:06 +1300]: >> > also sprach David Kalnischkies [2013.01.25.0020 >> > +1300]: >> > > You can find much of the same

Re: Splitting the devscripts package

2013-04-01 Thread David Kalnischkies
distributions nor at the scripts, so I have no idea how (un)useful they will be and/or if they even work on apt << 0.6. I am just saying that APT presence is not limited to Debian derivatives … Best regards David Kalnischkies -- To UNSUBSCRIBE, email to debian-devel-requ...@lists.debian.org with a subject of "unsubscribe". Trouble? Contact listmas...@lists.debian.org Archive: http://lists.debian.org/CAAZ6_fAvAc72z==4j=tokann6tvrgs9bmsgczj-hnq5y8xf...@mail.gmail.com

Re: Community Outreach to other communities

2013-04-01 Thread David Kalnischkies
some will be offended (not because of the gender or because she is missing a leg, those dipshits are not bros, I mean the BBQ-bros)! Thanks again bro and best regards David Kalnischkies on behalf of the APT bros -- To UNSUBSCRIBE, email to debian-devel-requ...@lists.debian.org with a subject

Re: missing libgl1-mesa-dri in upgrades

2013-04-02 Thread David Kalnischkies
mpletion: Enhances are not handled) It's just that a user shouldn't really be required to know what those are. (if you digg deaper [usually in non-user facing texts] you will come across "hard", "important", "soft", "negative" and "posi

Re: Automatically satisfying Build-Depends from local control file

2013-04-18 Thread David Kalnischkies
entions like the immediate format EDSP). On the pro-side, if that's finally done we can do a lot of funky stuff. I wouldn't dare to hold my breath until then though, way too much stuff creeps up on the bug side to even try to implement new bugs^Wfeatures. (And no, pushing this as GSoC/

Re: Aptitude best to ignore a dependency

2013-04-18 Thread David Kalnischkies
ach a consistent state, from there you can easily install pending updates again. Best regards David Kalnischkies -- To UNSUBSCRIBE, email to debian-devel-requ...@lists.debian.org with a subject of "unsubscribe". Trouble? Contact listmas...@lists.debian.org Archive: http://lists.debian.org/caaz6_fa7p72ri3rbvkgjyz5xu726f1ndukw5iusjzjxdedb...@mail.gmail.com

Re: epoch fix?

2013-05-09 Thread David Kalnischkies
the version in a "canonical" form already at package creation time and warn in lintian if a version wasn't written in the "canonical" form (as this usually indicates a misunderstanding/bug already). Only problem I see with that is that dpkg isn't providing an interf

Re: idea: generalized soft dependencies

2013-05-09 Thread David Kalnischkies
I see a need for it, and I would like to reserve the syntax we will use for build-profiles in build-dependencies also in "normal" dependencies as use-profiles (as Johannes has already pointed to), but we should really use the current information we already have much more and take the new

Re: New version of libselinux makes libpcre3 pseudo-essential

2013-05-09 Thread David Kalnischkies
re as well as people as if it is important, so lets just mark it that way – or drop priorities completely, but not some wishy-washy middle ground. Best regards David Kalnischkies -- To UNSUBSCRIBE, email to debian-devel-requ...@lists.debian.org with a subject of

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