"Mass" (non invasive) NMUs planned to fix debconf translations broken in multiple packages

2011-01-12 Thread Christian PERRIER
Quoting Christian PERRIER (bubu...@debian.org): > I have ready NMUs for most of the affeted packages. I can upload them > soon. My plans are to upload before the end of the upcoming week-end an NMU for each of the affected package(s). I currently have: astk_1.8.0-1.2 bandwidthd

Re: "Mass" (non invasive) NMUs planned to fix debconf translations broken in multiple packages

2011-01-13 Thread Christian PERRIER
Quoting Adam D. Barratt (a...@adam-barratt.org.uk): > On Wed, 2011-01-12 at 19:43 +0100, Christian PERRIER wrote: > > My plans are to upload before the end of the upcoming week-end an NMU > > for each of the affected package(s). > > > > I currently have: > > fw

Re: Why is help so hard to find?

2011-01-14 Thread Christian PERRIER
Quoting Mike Bird (mgb-deb...@yosemite.net): > You have no idea what configurations are in use on stable servers. > > You have no idea how many stable servers you're going to break. You're right. No Debian developer is involved in large institutions or corporations where hundreds of such server

Re: "Mass" (non invasive) NMUs planned to fix debconf translations broken in multiple packages

2011-01-16 Thread Christian PERRIER
Quoting Christian PERRIER (bubu...@debian.org): > Quoting Christian PERRIER (bubu...@debian.org): > > > I have ready NMUs for most of the affeted packages. I can upload them > > soon. > > My plans are to upload before the end of the upcoming week-end an NMU > for eac

Re: Results of the App Installer Meeting

2011-01-27 Thread Christian PERRIER
(keeling only lists CC'ed) Quoting Andreas Tille (andr...@an3as.eu): > What I'm missing in the summary and what was probably not discussed is > another user oriented service: ddtp.debian.net. Translating > descriptions of packages^Wapplications is IMHO quite important to do the > last final ste

Re: Upstream "stable" branches and Debian freeze

2011-01-31 Thread Christian PERRIER
Quoting Max Kellermann (m...@duempel.org): > I'm the upstream maintainer of the Music Player Daemon project, and > receive a number of support requests / bug reports from Debian users > who use the outdated version 0.15.12 of "mpd", currently in testing. > These bugs were already fixed in newer ma

Re: RFC: bringing back task packages

2011-02-18 Thread Christian PERRIER
Quoting Joey Hess (jo...@debian.org): > ### i18n > > There are many language tasks in tasksel. It might be good to have > the task packages be moved out of tasksel; I don't know if it'd make > sense to have individual language teams maintain them, or what. Many teams are definitely too small to

Re: Using Git to maintain many small packages in a team?

2011-03-06 Thread Christian PERRIER
Quoting Stéphane Glondu (glo...@debian.org): > > Specifically, I'm looking for a way to easy track all of the team's > > repositories, update them all, etc. It seems that the Debian Games team > > uses mr (according to http://wiki.debian.org/Games/VCS). Are there > > alternatives worth considering

Needed input from Australian users and developers:; choosing timezones for Australia in D-I

2011-03-22 Thread Christian PERRIER
Hello, I need some help from Australian people. Debian Installer includes (in tzsetup) a way to choose a timezone among multiple timezones, when users have picked a country that has more than one timezone. I'm currently working on this as things change constantly in such matters. As preliminary

Re: Needed input from Australian users and developers:; choosing timezones for Australia in D-I

2011-03-22 Thread Christian PERRIER
Quoting Paul Wise (p...@debian.org): > I agree with the other Australians in the thread; the east-coast > timezones are currently all the same but might not be in the future so > we shouldn't rely on them being the same and we should allow selection > of Australia/Sydney vs Australia/Melbourne. Su

language-chooser: Language order shouldn't be alphabetical

2003-10-11 Thread Christian Perrier
Package: language-chooser Severity: normal (this is tagged as normal on purpose.remember that the languagechooser menu is the very first thing one ses when installing Debian..:-)) The language order seems to be random. Hungarian first, then australian english, indian english, USA english, UK

Re: language-chooser: Language order shouldn't be alphabetical

2003-10-11 Thread Christian Perrier
Quoting Christian Perrier ([EMAIL PROTECTED]): > Package: language-chooser > Severity: normal #215205on languagechooser package (and not language-chooser :-)))

Debconf Templates Style Guide : round 2

2003-11-10 Thread Christian Perrier
After publishing my first draft of the so-called Debconf Templates Style Guide (DTSGmaybe this acronym is too close from the DFSG) on October 28th, I have received many input and I have completed some parts of the document. Thanks to all people who already commented or encouraged me to con

Re: debian-installer beta 1

2003-11-16 Thread Christian Perrier
Quoting Brian May ([EMAIL PROTECTED]): > 2. Grub instead of Lilo? Look closer.. :-) Using GRUB is possible, though LILO is the default. You just need to lower the debconf priority just to get some more questions.and main-menu entries.

Re: RFA: A lot of packages

2003-11-17 Thread Christian Perrier
Quoting Daniel Gubser ([EMAIL PROTECTED]): > Am Sam, 2003-11-15 um 16.52 schrieb Andrés Roldán: > > I will make an upload today then. > > sorry to be so late but Christian Perrier made an upload for uptimed > today: YesAnd I want to point out that I really wonder why

Seeking "one-time" Hungarian translators for Debian Installer

2004-10-05 Thread Christian Perrier
This is a quite unusual call, but a quite urgent one. Debian installer is currently in its final stages of development and currently in what we call a "string freeze". This means that no change to translatable parts happen, allowing translator to finish their work. The string freeze lasts until O

Common set of debconf templates (was: Re: RFC: best practice creating database)

2004-10-08 Thread Christian Perrier
> if you think that it would be too complicated/flaky, i'd add a debconf > note (of _low_ priority!) and put something in README.Debian. While we are at it : Could *please* maintainers of packages interacting with RDBMS establish a set of *common* debconf templates for prompting users ? While t

Re: Common set of debconf templates (was: Re: RFC: best practice creating database)

2004-10-08 Thread Christian Perrier
(crossposted to -devel and -i18n...feel free to followup on the appropriate place...it probably belongs to both currently) Quoting Andreas Tille ([EMAIL PROTECTED]): > On Fri, 8 Oct 2004, Christian Perrier wrote: > > >All such templates should probably go into a common se

Re: Common set of debconf templates

2004-10-11 Thread Christian Perrier
Quoting Marc Haber ([EMAIL PROTECTED]): > Do we have infrastructure to handle different answers for the same > question? Maybe I'd like to have a different dbadmin password on my > postgresql database than on mysql? Yes, we have it through the REGISTER command in the debconf protocol (see man de

Re: Common set of debconf templates

2004-10-11 Thread Christian Perrier
> > SHARED TEMPLATES > >It's actually possible to have a template and a question that > >are shared among a set of packages. All the packages have to > >provide an identical copy of the template in their templates > ^ > >files. This can be

Re: New ClamAV version uploaded, testers wanted

2004-10-19 Thread Christian Perrier
Quoting Stephen Gran ([EMAIL PROTECTED]): > Hello all, > > I have uploaded 0.80 to experimental temporarily for testing purposes > (it is also on p.d.o/~sgran). The two main concerns I have with > releasing it into the wild at this point are false positives in the jpeg > scanning code (appears to

Re: NMU for libpaper

2004-10-23 Thread Christian Perrier
> An NMU for a wishlist bug is questionable IMHO. The bug report for > hylafax-client is vague; it says that there are (tiny) differences > between "default" and "ISO A4" in the pagesizes file but fails to > explain why that's a problem. > > Rather than NMU just for this bug, you could try to cont

Re: Release Candidate 2 of Debian Installer

2009-02-01 Thread Christian Perrier
Quoting Florian Weimer (f...@deneb.enyo.de): > * Otavio Salvador: > > > See the errata[2] for details and a full list of known issues. > > What needs to be done so that these two issues can be fixed? This has been discussed numerous times in -boot but among the low number of ppl working on D-I d

Re: handling group membership in and outside d-i

2009-02-28 Thread Christian Perrier
Quoting Jon Dowland (jon+debian-de...@alcopop.org): > I did several subsequent installs and my user never ended > up in powerdev (nor netdev for that matter). It's my belief > (yet to check d-i code to confirm) that the user gets added > to powerdev if you select the desktop task: for each of my

Re: -dbg packages; are they actually useful?

2009-03-04 Thread Christian Perrier
Quoting Steve Langasek (vor...@debian.org): > symbols. If there's a will to get that done in Debian now, I will > definitely be happy to ditch the samba-dbg package for one. I support my co-maintainer on that..:-) One should note that samba-dbg is sometimes used and already allowed tracking do

Re: Installing accessibility packages by default?

2009-03-05 Thread Christian Perrier
Quoting Samuel Thibault (samuel.thiba...@ens-lyon.org): > So, I'm asking: would it seem reasonable to ask tasksel to install > accessibility packages along desktop packages? > > I have tried to install Lenny with a gnome desktop, I ended up with > 2.3GB disk usage. Adding gnome-accessibility and

Re: RFC: Better formatting for long descriptions

2009-03-21 Thread Christian Perrier
Quoting Andreas Tille (til...@rki.de): > Package: a2ps > - various encodings (all the Latins and others), > - various fonts (automatic font down loading), > - various medias, > ^^ (two spaces) > > Package: acerhk-source >* controlling LEDs (Mail, Wireless) >* enable/disable wireless

Re: RFC: Better formatting for long descriptions

2009-03-22 Thread Christian Perrier
Quoting Andreas Tille (til...@rki.de): > On Sat, 21 Mar 2009, Christian Perrier wrote: > >> Please note that debian-l10n-english suggests using the enumeration >> style you mention for a2ps, when we're reviewing package >> descriptions... > > BTW, once you an

Re: RFC: Better formatting for long descriptions

2009-03-23 Thread Christian Perrier
Quoting Michael Banck (mba...@debian.org): > > Please note that debian-l10n-english suggests using the enumeration > > style you mention for a2ps, when we're reviewing package > > descriptions... > > What's the rationale? So far, I was under the impression that " * " A not very strong one, I'

Re: RFC: Better formatting for long descriptions

2009-03-23 Thread Christian Perrier
Quoting Andreas Tille (til...@rki.de): > Could you please clarify whether you mean *enumeration* (in the sense I meant itemization, actually, so more "" than "". There are certainly very few cases where ordered lists are really useful in packages' description. Sorry for the approximative English

Re: [GSoC] KDE4/Qt4 based package manager

2009-03-30 Thread Christian Perrier
Quoting Obey Arthur Liu (art...@milliways.fr): > > synaptic or shaman (from Chakra). I think that aptitude-gtk and adept > > are not userfriendly. Using these applications was quite difficult for > Heartfelt thank yous! (I'm the guy responsible for aptitude-gtk.. :D ) Is this silly to think that

Re: lilo about to be dropped?

2009-04-06 Thread Christian Perrier
Quoting Frans Pop (elen...@planet.nl): > I'm not sure where the original mail comes from, but IMO this should be From lilo package BTS which I was tracking for l10n purposes. So I just happened to notice William's answer to a bug report and thought it would be good for this to be discussed in pu

D-I release goals page (was: Re: Bits from the Debian Installer team)

2009-04-09 Thread Christian Perrier
In "Bits from the D-I team", we wrote: > Goals that were confirmed|added are listed below. These release goals > are summarized on http://wiki.debian.org/DebianInstaller/SqueezeGoals To be fair, they aren't yet..:-) This page needs reorganization to be inline with the meetings conclusion. Such w

Re: DEP-4 TDebs - updated

2009-04-14 Thread Christian Perrier
Quoting Cyril Brulebois (k...@debian.org): > > http://dep.debian.net/deps/dep4/#index7h2 > > "During the transition, those bugs will remain. After the transition, > > those bugs will go away so there should be no need for a closure > > method. We’ll need to rely on i18n.debian.org for translation

Item lists bulletting (was: Re: RFC: Better formatting for long descriptions)

2009-04-15 Thread Christian Perrier
Andreas Tille a écrit : > I have not found any recommendation regarding this at the SRP Wiki page > [1]. > I vaguely remember that this Smith project was initially driven by a French > guy who might try to push a French habit into the English world. ;-) Of course. Because, contrary to the world

Re: Item lists bulletting (was: Re: RFC: Better formatting for long descriptions)

2009-04-16 Thread Christian Perrier
Quoting Lars Wirzenius (l...@liw.fi): > to, 2009-04-16 kello 08:42 +0200, Christian Perrier kirjoitti: > > I have never been able to find any such solid reference for English. > > There is probably something in the Chicago Manual of Style, that's > > generally accepted

Re: Considering the removal of ntpdate

2009-04-23 Thread Christian Perrier
Quoting Peter Eisentraut (pet...@debian.org): > Nevertheless, since ntpdate used to be quite popular, I figured I'd better > ask > here for objections. Would there be a possibility to prove some kind of wrapper for those among our users who might have various local stuff that are using ntpdate

Re: debconf templates: Choices displayed different to values

2009-04-28 Thread Christian Perrier
Quoting Lucas Brasilino (lucas.brasil...@gmail.com): > Thanks a lot for you answer. By the way, can you please point me out > some updated > documentation about templates, debconf protocol, commands, etc? If you introduce debconf templates, you may want to get them reviewed by the debian-l10n-eng

Re: postfix as default-mta? [Re: Bug#508644: new release goal default-mta?]

2009-05-06 Thread Christian Perrier
Quoting Josselin Mouette (j...@debian.org): > Where do we draw the line for “most situations”? If you want to do > serious email work, you’ll have to spend some time configuring your > exim/postfix and install extra components to run with it. If you don’t, > a trivial configuration will do the tri

Re: "Debian is switching to EGLIBC"

2009-05-06 Thread Christian Perrier
Quoting John Goerzen (jgoer...@complete.org): > So I think the problem here is not that you made a technically bad > decision. It sounds like you made a good decision. It's how it was > communicated. I guess that, in some way, the glibc maintainers wanted to save us from a probably very long an

Re: Possible mass bug filing: non-doc packages recommending doc packages

2009-05-07 Thread Christian Perrier
Quoting Y Giridhar Appaji Nag (app...@debian.org): > Debian Samba Maintainers >samba swat Recommends: samba-doc swat is a web interface to administer samba. Its main page currently has links to Samba documentation in HTML. I bringed the discussion in out maintenance list but dropping Reco

Re: postfix as default-mta? [Re: Bug#508644: new release goal default-mta?]

2009-05-08 Thread Christian Perrier
Quoting Micah Anderson (mi...@debian.org): > I think our problem is, how do we go about making this decision? If the problem is well summarized (the wiki page you pointed), why not make use of our Technical Committee for this? It certainly needs someone committing self to track down the issue

Re: postfix as default-mta? [Re: Bug#508644: new release goal default-mta?]

2009-05-08 Thread Christian Perrier
Quoting Steve Langasek (vor...@debian.org): > If this were put to the TC, I can't see any way that this would be anything > more than a poll of the personal preferences of the members of the TC. If > someone who's in a position to make this decision decides they'd like to > delegate the decision

Re: postfix as default-mta? [Re: Bug#508644: new release goal default-mta?]

2009-05-09 Thread Christian Perrier
Quoting Steve Langasek (vor...@debian.org): > My point is precisely that I don't think there are any salient technical > advantages of one over the other. Either postfix or exim4 meets our needs > for a default MTA, and both have packages that appear to be well-supported > by their maintainers an

Re: Transitions Completed

2009-05-23 Thread Christian Perrier
Quoting Frans Pop (elen...@planet.nl): > It's mainly (slightly) confusing on the debian-boot list. At least I have > occasionally had to look twice before remembering that those mails are > about the archive and not D-I. I agree it wasn't a huge issue. Confirmed. I had the same issue from time

Re: Bug#531221: okular: Arbitrarily enforces DRM

2009-05-31 Thread Christian Perrier
Quoting Sune Vuorela (s...@vuorela.dk): > > 4) Patch the text to tell people where to go to turn it off > > It's a deviation from upstream that we would have to maintain for eternity. > This issue is not important enough for me to put the extra required work into > it. > Getting the prompt optio

Re: How to hack on DDTSS code ? (Re: DDTSS usage configuration for Japanese)

2009-06-02 Thread Christian Perrier
Quoting Junichi Uekawa (dan...@netfort.gr.jp): > Hi, > > Anybody have any idea who's working on DDTSS code and how I can change > some of its behaviors? That would be Martijn van Oosterhout who you CC'ed to this mail, apparently (and, IIRC, reads debian-i18n) Michael "Grisu" Bramer leads other t

Re: Removal of fc-cache calls in postinsts

2009-06-15 Thread Christian Perrier
Quoting Josselin Mouette (j...@debian.org): > Hi, > > since version 2.6.0-4, fontconfig includes a trigger that will re-run > fc-cache whenever needed. > > Therefore, all font packages that currently do this in the postinst are > strongly advised to remove these calls. The performance gains durin

Re: Removal of fc-cache calls in postinsts

2009-06-15 Thread Christian Perrier
Quoting Josselin Mouette (j...@debian.org): > The next paragraph said: > I’ve requested a new lintian check, and here is the list of > affected packages. /me slaps self. Sorry, Joss, for overreading your mail. I actually went back on it quickly after you forwarded it to pkg-fonts

Re: Switching the default /bin/sh to dash

2009-06-24 Thread Christian Perrier
Quoting Raphael Geissert (atom...@gmail.com): > Switch the default /bin/sh to dash in the following weeks /me applauses (I'm using dash as /bin/sh for about NN years now: IIRC I switched after Marga's work in the GSOC about the boot process speed up) signature.asc Description: Digit

Re: Switching the default /bin/sh to dash

2009-06-26 Thread Christian Perrier
Quoting Luk Claes (l...@debian.org): > It's enough to dpkg-reconfigure dash for existing installations. And, by the way, if the switch happens, one has to think about rewording the current debconf template for dash, that says: Description: Install dash as /bin/sh? The default /bin/sh shell on

Re: 2 months and no upload for pkg

2014-08-12 Thread Christian PERRIER
Quoting Amir Taaki (gen...@riseup.net): > However, I think maybe this might have slipped through the cracks and > has been missed. Any information would be much appreciated. > The responsible team (Debian Bitcoin Team) seems to be dead judging from > their mailing list. Hello, That seems to be

Re: Reverting to GNOME for jessie's default desktop

2014-08-13 Thread Christian PERRIER
Quoting Josselin Mouette (j...@debian.org): > I’d like the thread to be useful, and for that goal it would be much > appreciated if the d-i team could you tell us what the relevant criteria > are and what people need to work on. Here is my opinion. Please take it as "opinion of someone who's been

Re: Possible abuse of dpkg-deb -z9 for xz compressed binary packages

2014-09-01 Thread Christian PERRIER
Quoting Changwoo Ryu (cw...@debian.org): > In my quick experiments with some font packages, "-Sextream -z9" > option still gives ~4% smaller size than the default. IMO this is > still significant for big font packages. Yes, that choice of the fonts team is based on a detailed experiment conducte

Re: Possible abuse of dpkg-deb -z9 for xz compressed binary packages

2014-09-02 Thread Christian PERRIER
Quoting Holger Levsen (hol...@layer-acht.org): > On Dienstag, 2. September 2014, Jonathan Dowland wrote: > > They're all arch: all though, right, so in practice no buildds are actually > > building these packages? > > yet. > > :-) > > At the time, we (font team) decided to go with z9, the fact

Re: Allow encfs into jessie?

2014-09-28 Thread Christian PERRIER
Quoting Eduard Bloch (e...@gmx.de): > Template: encfs/security-information > Type: note > _Description: Encfs Security Information Besides using an Evil Debconf Note (;-) ), is there a reason for capitalizing every noun in the note title ? BTW, that might be a use case for the debconf "error" da

Re: Allow encfs into jessie?

2014-09-29 Thread Christian PERRIER
Quoting brian m. carlson (sand...@crustytoothpaste.net): > > Besides using an Evil Debconf Note (;-) ), is there a reason for > > capitalizing every noun in the note title ? > > That style of title capitalization is very common in the United States > (and Canada, it appears). It's less common in

Bug#764659: general: Login screen misspells distro name as "debain"

2014-10-10 Thread Christian PERRIER
Quoting Nathan L. (spychicken2...@gmail.com): > Turns out I screwed up and typoed the hostname, please disregard this > report. Aha, that happens: You probably want to read Jaldhar H. Vyas blog, I think... http://www.braincells.com/debian/ Particularly the "About La Salle Debain" part..:-)

Re: Possible abuse of dpkg-deb -z9 for xz compressed binary packages

2014-10-14 Thread Christian PERRIER
Quoting Paul Wise (p...@debian.org): > On Thu, Sep 25, 2014 at 10:23 PM, Thomas Goirand wrote: > > > As wrote by others earlier, that's the amount of memory needed for > > compression. 65 MB of RAM is needed for decompression. That's nothing!!! > > That is half the RAM available on my Debian-base

Re: what to do is maintainer is lacking? (was: wine-unstable in Debian)

2012-04-18 Thread Christian PERRIER
Quoting Chris Knadle (chris.kna...@coredump.us): > for lowering of severity level. [And realistically at least in the general > case I don't think another DD is going to do an NMU if a bug is not RC.] Have you seen the gazillion of localization NMUs I'm doing for about 4-5 years now? :-) As l

Re: switching from exim to postfix

2012-05-02 Thread Christian PERRIER
(slightly off-topic) Quoting Russell Coker (russ...@coker.com.au): > No, bouncing mail when it can't be properly delivered is much better than > violating RFCs. > > Mail that is bounced with a human readable message describing the real cause > of the problem can then be re-sent once the proble

Re: Node.js and it's future in debian

2012-05-03 Thread Christian PERRIER
Quoting Patrick Ouellette (poue...@debian.org): > Can someone please explain to be why it is so unpalatable to > have the Node.js package in the README and in an installation/ > configuration message include the following (or similar) message: ("last minute debconf addition hater" hat ON) Please

Re: RFP: openjump -- OpenJUMP is an open source Geographic Information System (GIS) written in Java

2012-05-07 Thread Christian PERRIER
A few comments on the proposed description synopsis: > Subject: RFP: openjump -- OpenJUMP is an open source Geographic Information > System > (GIS) written in Java "OpenJUMP is": should be omitted as this is implied (see Developer's Reference) "open source": this is Debian, so everyt

Moving the target of localization pokes (and eventually NMUs)...

2012-05-20 Thread Christian PERRIER
With the final steps of the release of Wheezy approaching, I will, from now on, move the focus of my l10n attention to packages that are blocking some of the localization goals. One of them is 100% completeness for debconf translations in wheezy for seven languages: Czech, Swedish, Spanish, Portug

Re: SV: Moving the target of localization pokes (and eventually NMUs)...

2012-05-21 Thread Christian PERRIER
Quoting Joe Dalton (joedalt...@yahoo.dk): > pages doesn't seem to have been updated since may 2 ? Yes, I've been notified of this and I'm working on it. signature.asc Description: Digital signature

Re: SV: Moving the target of localization pokes (and eventually NMUs)...

2012-05-22 Thread Christian PERRIER
Quoting Joe Dalton (joedalt...@yahoo.dk): > pages doesn't seem to have been updated since may 2 ? This has been fixed on i18n.debian.org as of yesterday and the l10n web pages have been refreshed with this data. And, of course, here comes the bad news: - mysql-5.5 has two fuzzies because of triv

Re: this bug .. bugs me

2012-06-05 Thread Christian PERRIER
(No CC, please, I'm subscribed to -devel) Quoting Michael Gilbert (mgilb...@debian.org): > Anyway, we've had recent threads on the continuing issues with strong > package maintenance, and from what I can tell, there is no clear > direction. The solution I'm pursuing is a liberal application of >

Re: Is Debian affected by the recent MySQL sql/password.c flow?

2012-06-11 Thread Christian PERRIER
Quoting Thomas Goirand (z...@debian.org): > The first time I wrote it, it wasn't clear enough. Maybe writing with > CAPS-ON will help your understanding! :) > > IT HAS ALREADY BEEN MADE PUBLIC (for example: on slashdot) !!! The debian-security mailing list is a public list. My stance about sec

Please consider stopping uploads with *uncoordinated* changes to debconf templates before the release

2012-06-12 Thread Christian PERRIER
Dear fellow developers, I would hereby kindly ask you (once again) to consider more coordination with the i18n teams when preparing uploads for packages when these introduce changes to debconf templates: either new templates, modified ones (even for trivial changes), etc. The i18n teams are curre

Re: Dublin, Ireland bug squashing party

2012-06-25 Thread Christian PERRIER
Quoting Martín Ferrari (martin.ferr...@gmail.com): > Have you thought of a place, or talked with anybody about that? I'm > thinking the TOG might be a good place. Isn't there some random company over there that actually happens to employ several DDs (and might be responsible for the sudden incre

Re: Concerns and Challenges of Squeeze and Ongoing Elements

2012-07-03 Thread Christian PERRIER
Quoting John L. Males (jlma...@gmail.com): > -BEGIN PGP SIGNED MESSAGE- > Hash: SHA1 > > Ladies and Gentlemen, I hope that everybody will be Wise Enough to not feed the troll. But, just in case: please don't feed the troll. signature.asc Description: Digital signature

Re: CD sizes again (and BoF reminder!)

2012-07-07 Thread Christian PERRIER
Quoting Ben Hutchings (b...@decadent.org.uk): > > partman-crypto still installs this. > > Seems like a bug...? The package is orphaned and dm-crypt has support > for a compatible encryption mode. Given the level of attention which partman-crypto got during the squeeze->wheezy release, I'd bet

Re: Re: Re: Re: [CTTE #614907] Resolution of node/nodejs conflict

2012-07-24 Thread Christian PERRIER
Quoting Filipus Klutiero (chea...@gmail.com): > >The purpose of debian-devel-announce is for communicating announcements *to > >people involved with the development of Debian*. > > > >You are not a Debian developer. > > I am. Philippe, if you want to prove you're a DD, then sign you mails, pleas

Re: Towards d-i wheezy beta 2

2012-08-04 Thread Christian PERRIER
Quoting Cyril Brulebois (k...@debian.org): > The deadline should be pretty clear, and should let time for doc / > translation updates, especially on the installation guide front. > Christian, could you perform your l10n coordination magic bits? I'll send yet another call for updates, but I don't

tasksel is everybody's business (was: Re: Debian Installer 7.0 Beta1 release)

2012-08-05 Thread Christian PERRIER
Quoting Ben Hutchings (b...@decadent.org.uk): > I believe joeysel now selects Xfce as the default desktop. ^^^ I think this is a bit unfair. OK, Joey's change from GNOME to XFCE hasn't really been discussed, admitedly, and there is room for some debate. But, please notice that 99

Re: tasksel: Default desktop: Gnome→Xfce

2012-08-05 Thread Christian PERRIER
Quoting Josselin Mouette (j...@debian.org): > Well, 1 GB would be enough to hold a standard desktop installation, > while 650 MB is not. That makes a difference. It will be hard to know whether dropping support for "real" CD installs does hurt some users or not, anyway. Those who will speak, in

Re: Change default PATH for Jessie / wheezy+1

2012-08-08 Thread Christian PERRIER
Quoting Russ Allbery (r...@debian.org): > Sure, certainly true. But, assuming that we have a consensus that the > distinction no longer matters and just causes extra work (something that > I'm inclined to agree with but that I don't think we can assume we've > decided on yet), I hate to see us do

Re: Towards d-i wheezy beta 3

2012-09-09 Thread Christian PERRIER
Quoting Daniel Hartwig (mand...@gmail.com): > Is there potential to see pkgsel use apt-get instead of aptitude > (following the same change in tasksel)? There is already a patch > committed. I'll give this more of a test this week with some induced > errors during the installation. I hesitated

Re: Debian Policy 3.9.4.0 released

2012-09-18 Thread Christian PERRIER
Quoting Russ Allbery (r...@debian.org): > I've just uploaded Debian Policy 3.9.4.0, which includes the Technical > Committee decision to make build-arch and build-indep mandatory targets > (but not for wheezy; see below), a substantial rewrite of the section on > shared library handling, and other

Re: Changes to Debian Maintainer upload permissions

2012-09-22 Thread Christian PERRIER
Quoting Gergely Nagy (alger...@madhouse-project.org): > Yep, that is one of the solutions I mentioned earlier. Therefore, if a > DM does care, migrating to the new system is by all means possible, and > they have very little to do, they will not be punished for another > person's absence or mistak

Re: "Blacklists" in BTS (stopping the trolls and bug machines)

2013-05-27 Thread Christian PERRIER
Quoting Ondřej Surý (ond...@sury.org): > You are most welcome to come, join the packaging team(s) and help triage > those or any other bugs. (And I do mean it for real and not as sarcasm.) > > BTW there's around 2000 open bugs marked as moreinfo, the oldest is dated > Sun, 29 Mar 1998 21:03:03 UT

Re: default MTA

2013-05-30 Thread Christian PERRIER
Quoting Thomas Goirand (z...@debian.org): > 1/ Your parents don't read mail? That is surprising to me. In this days > and age, everyone does. Yes. Out of 5 adult people in my family, all of them read their mail daily. 4 of them do it through a web interface and have absolutely no use of a mail

Re: Default desktop for jessie Was: Re: Debian/Wheezy general rant ...

2013-06-05 Thread Christian PERRIER
Quoting Russ Allbery (r...@debian.org): > udev sucks! Debian should hire a developer to replace all uses of CDBS > with dh! Perl should be replaced with Python in essential! All packages > need to switch to 3.0 (quilt)! Native packages should be banned! No one > should ever be allowed to NMU

Re: Processed: Closing is wrong

2013-07-07 Thread Christian PERRIER
Quoting Debian Bug Tracking System (ow...@bugs.debian.org): > Processing commands for cont...@bugs.debian.org: > > > reopen 653125 > Bug #653125 {Done: David Prévot } [debian-i18n] Farsi > characters problem > Bug reopened > Ignoring request to alter fixed versions of bug #653125 to the same valu

Re: UTF-8 in jessie

2013-08-12 Thread Christian PERRIER
Quoting Charles Plessy (ple...@debian.org): > About display by GUIs, I think that we should have a system to install all the > fonts necessary to display languages that we support at the installation. Such as tasksel and its language tasks? :-) In short, we already have that. However, we need p

Re: UTF-8 in jessie

2013-08-13 Thread Christian PERRIER
Quoting Charles Plessy (ple...@debian.org): > Hi Christian, > > what I am proposing is a task that install all languages. I made a bit of > research earlier, and it is not as simple as installing all the existing > tasks, > as the result on my computer was that some browsers started to display

Re: Dreamhost dumps Debian

2013-08-20 Thread Christian PERRIER
Quoting Pau Garcia i Quiles (pgqui...@elpauer.org): > > That is not the case. At the moment most of this is done by the > > Debian security team. Of course some package maintainers do help. > > > > > IMHO that should be turned around: package maintainers should be the ones > responsible for upda

Help needed to debug a failing bot on i18n.debian.org

2013-09-30 Thread Christian PERRIER
Hello fellow developers, The i18n crowd needs your help. In order to provide translators and teams with valuable material to work, we have a few automated processes that are running on the i18n.debian.org machine. The source code for all this stuff is stored in git+ssh://git.debian.org/git/debia

Re: Help needed to debug a failing bot on i18n.debian.org

2013-09-30 Thread Christian PERRIER
Quoting Cyril Brulebois (k...@debian.org): > Cyril Brulebois (2013-09-30): > > Yes; debian-i18n membership ping. > > > > Can't see the page on alioth due to: > > Permission denied. This project's administrator will have to grant you > > permission to view this page. > > > > so can't request i

Re: Possible mass bug filling for package depending on "menu".

2011-10-30 Thread Christian PERRIER
Quoting Frank lin Piat (fp...@klabs.be): > Specious "suggests" relationship [AFAICT]: .../... > geneweb - genealogy software with web interface > Doh, my pet package is pointed fingers at...:-) Fixed in 6.00-2. Thanks for your work on this! signature.asc De

Re: Possible mass bug filling for package depending on "menu".

2011-11-03 Thread Christian PERRIER
Quoting Bill Allombert (bill.allomb...@math.u-bordeaux1.fr): > > What about moving the su-to-root binary to a different binary package ? > > Bill what's your PoV about spliting it ? > > I am not very keen creating a new Debian package for a 3kB script. In that case, I think that the above discu

Re: The state of geoclue in Debian

2011-12-03 Thread Christian PERRIER
Quoting Bernd Zeimetz (be...@bzed.de): > It should as it means that it will be a PITA to find patches which were > applied > in Ubuntu and should be applied in Debian, too - or it means that we'll just > recreate the same patches as they are hidden somewhere in the mess Ubuntu made > without talk

Re: New sections and frontend behaviour [Was: Re: New sections]

2011-12-05 Thread Christian PERRIER
Quoting Goswin von Brederlow (goswin-...@web.de): > Joerg Jaspert writes: > > > metapackages, which is for metapackages so that apt can do special > > handling on them. > > On IRC Joerg mentioned that transitional packages could/should also go > to the metapackages section. oldlib

Re: Bug#652275: Guided partitioning should not offer separate /usr, /var, and /tmp partitions; leave that to manual partitioning

2011-12-15 Thread Christian PERRIER
(reducing CC as I guess that most are subscribed to -devel) Quoting Russ Allbery (r...@debian.org): > I don't think these things are alike. Separating /var and /tmp from the > rest of the file systems is done because those partitions contain varying > amounts of data and often fill if something

Re: Bug#652275: Guided partitioning should not offer separate /usr, /var, and /tmp partitions; leave that to manual partitioning

2011-12-16 Thread Christian PERRIER
Quoting Michael Biebl (bi...@debian.org): > > I don't think that d-i should be on the leading edge of this discussion. > > Once Debian has made up its mind, d-i can be updated to follow the > > consensus. > > To me it looks like there is broad consensus that a separate /usr > partition should be

Re: Use of the first person in messages from the computer

2012-02-09 Thread Christian PERRIER
Quoting Niels Thykier (ni...@thykier.net): > On 2012-02-09 13:20, Ian Jackson wrote: > > I have just received a review by a l10n team of a package of mine. > > > > The reviewer seems to be under the impression that there is something > > wrong with the computer speaking to the user in the first pe

Re: Use of the first person in messages from the computer

2012-02-09 Thread Christian PERRIER
Quoting Ian Jackson (ijack...@chiark.greenend.org.uk): > Finally, the reviewer revealed in the review that they're not a native > speaker of English. Is it normal for l10n reviews to be conducted by > non-native speakers of the target language ? Are we really so short > of native English speakin

Re: Use of the first person in messages from the computer

2012-02-10 Thread Christian PERRIER
Quoting Steve Langasek (vor...@debian.org): > I categorically reject the notion that removing second-person usage from our > debconf questions is at all beneficial. And when you fix non-problems in > your language, you almost invariably make things worse by reducing clarity > or increasing verbos

Re: Description-less Packages indices

2012-02-21 Thread Christian PERRIER
Quoting Davide Prina (davide.pr...@gmail.com): > the DDTSS is totally broken :-( When this change happened, I somehow secretly expected someone to step up and try fixing the DDT* things. I have to say that I personnally never anticipated the consequences of the change, even if I had been warned t

Re: Debian not suitable for SSD due to apt/dpkg?

2012-10-01 Thread Christian PERRIER
Quoting Michael Hanke (m...@debian.org): > I'm on an Intel SSD (120GB) since Aug 2009 -- running Debian testing all > the time. I do not upgrade daily, but often. I have _not_ done any of > the optimizations mentioned on the wiki. I have on average approx 15GB > free on the drive. Obviously, I ran

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