Re: Questions for maintaining several packages

1998-04-07 Thread Bob Hilliard
Andreas Tille <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: > 3) A free English dictionary (www.dict.org). > >I found a hint on > >http://www.debian.org/doc/prospective-packages.html > >that such a dictionary exists and is desired to be included >into Debian. Is there any effort on this?

Dictionary Packages

1998-04-12 Thread Bob Hilliard
I have just packaged dictd, containing client/server software for accessing dictionaries. To do anything useful, the server must have dictionaries and indices in a suitable format. There are eight dictionaries available from the same site that provides the source for the client/server

Re: Dictionary Packages

1998-04-12 Thread Bob Hilliard
David Frey <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> writes: > Personally I'd prefer to have additional packages > dictd-web1913, dictd-foldoc, dictd-... (depending on dictd), That's exactly what I had in mind. Sorry if my message left the wrong impression. I envisage four source packages and seven or eight bin

dictd and wordnet

1998-04-16 Thread Bob Hilliard
Hi, This is in response to your message of Wed, 8 Apr 1998. I apologize for taking so long to get back to you. As I said before, I am packaging dictd, containing the client server software developed by the DICT Group. There will be a number of separate packages containing the dictio

Re: dictd and wordnet

1998-04-16 Thread Bob Hilliard
Hi, You wrote: > I'm in the process of becomming a Debian maintainer. Unfortunately this > process isn't finished since two weeks (may be it is delayed because of > the efforts in the upcomming hamm release). I would like to maintain > wordnet than. But may be I would need your help becau

Re: where can i get debhelper and lintian

1998-04-16 Thread Bob Hilliard
Martin Schulze <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: > They're part of the distribution - hamm. The newest lintian is in > the incoming since yesterday - and installed on master+va. IIRC, Christian's message yesterday said the newest lintian was in slink, not hamm. I downloaded it from slink on ftp.de

Re: dictd and wordnet

1998-04-16 Thread Bob Hilliard
Jean Pierre LeJacq <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: > Actually, /usr/share/dict. Shouldn't new package be constructed from > the start to use FHS? IIRC, it is intended to implement the FHS with symlinks initially. Until a definite announcement is made regarding the policy for implementing the FHS

Re: dictd and wordnet

1998-04-16 Thread Bob Hilliard
Hi, > > The old WordNet packages used usr/lib/wordnet/dict/. I believe > This seemed me a bad choice and so I wanted to change it. I agree. It seems undesirable to create a directory with nothing in it but a subdirectory, if there is no expectation of adding more files or directories

Re: Upgrading Debian 1.3.1r6 to frozen

1998-04-23 Thread Bob Hilliard
Hi, Did you really mean 18 or is that a typo for 19? Is it going to hamm or slink? It seems to me that emacs19 should be in 2.0, but the release policy would seem to require it to go in slink. Bob Manoj Srivastava <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: > emacs18 is also present in Incomi

Dictionary directory

1998-04-23 Thread Bob Hilliard
When we discussed directory locations several weeks ago, I said I would wait for some policy statements about the FHS. After looking at how much is already in /usr/share, I have changed my mind and now agree with you. I am almost finished with my dictionary packages, and have built them to g

Wordnet Package: (Was Re: Dictionary directory)

1998-04-23 Thread Bob Hilliard
Hi, DISCLAIMER: I am a new developer also, and my advice may not be very good. Also I am building my packages by hand, and have never looked at any of the helper scripts, so I can't address how to make debstd put the files where you want them. If I understand you correctly, you want to

Re: build: no utmp entry available

1998-04-23 Thread Bob Hilliard
Hi, You wrote: > PS: Should I post such kind of questions to debian-mentors? > I'm afraid an overflow of my mailbox if I subscribe more and > more mailing lists. debian-mentors is relatively low volume, and will likely produce better responses to new maintainer type questions t

Re: Upgrading Debian 1.3.1r6 to frozen

1998-04-23 Thread Bob Hilliard
Hi, Thanks and bravo! I'm getting tired of fighting with dselect, which insists on replacing my emacs 19.34-13 with emacs20. Bob > Hi, > > I meant emacs19, and I think it is felt to be a bug fix > release, (not working with the other debian emacsen setup is a pretty > major bug) s

Re: wu-ftpd important bug(s)

1998-04-25 Thread Bob Hilliard
More formal definitions: >From Jargon File (4.0.0/24 July 1996) [jargon]: deprecated /adj./ Said of a program or feature that is considered obsolescent and in the process of being phased out, usually in favor of a specified replacement. Deprecated features can, unfortunate

Re: gpm and time after hamm upgrade

1998-04-25 Thread Bob Hilliard
Corey Miller <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: > After upgrading to hamm, I have experienced the two following > problems. First, gpm no longer seems to work with my mouse. I have a PS/2 > M$ Intellimouse, which used to work fine as type ps2. I tried that setup, > under which it only moves the cur

Re: Conflicts between developers and policy

1998-04-27 Thread Bob Hilliard
> Cc: Debian Developers list , > Debian policy list > From: Manoj Srivastava <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> > Date: 27 Apr 1998 14:47:23 -0500 > Lines: 44 > > Hi, Manoj Srivastava <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: > Hmm. I think I like the idea of the policy documents being the > law, and the techn

Proposed Constitution

1998-04-27 Thread Bob Hilliard
I suggest that Section B. "Use of language and typography" be amended to include a statement similar to "Where the context permits, the masculine shall include the feminine, and the singular shall include the plural". Then all of the clumsy constructions using plural pronouns (they, their) to

Directory for dictionary databases

1998-04-27 Thread Bob Hilliard
In earlier discussions, it was agreed that the proper location for dictionary databases under the FHS would be /usr/share/dict/. Subsequently, I have obtained a copy of the FHS, and have discussed this subject with the upstream author of the dictd package. An abbreviated extract fr

Re: Proposed Constitution

1998-04-28 Thread Bob Hilliard
Mark Baker <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: > "They" is not only a singular, it is also widely accepted as a singular > pronoun, and has been used as such by not only ordinary people but also > great writers for hundreds of years. All of my dictionaries give "nominative plural of he, she, or it" a

Re: Conflicts between developers and policy

1998-04-28 Thread Bob Hilliard
Raul Miller <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> writes: > Why do you think that these are the reasons? > > You might be right, but I'd like to know your reasons before agreeing > that these are the primary reasons for bugs not being fixed. There are a nuamber of sub-threads in this thread using the same h

Re: Boot Disks

1998-04-28 Thread Bob Hilliard
Jason Gunthorpe <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> writes: > On Tue, 28 Apr 1998, Hamish Moffatt wrote: > > > The sensitivity to good disks is, as I understand it, caused by poor > > BIOS floppy drivers and is independent of the Linux kernel, let alone > > which distribution you are running. > > Actually, as I

Re: Directory for dictionary databases

1998-04-28 Thread Bob Hilliard
Andreas Tille <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> writes: > But in my opinion it is a bad solution if every "translation related" > data should be stored in different directories. I think a directory > structure should be as logical as possible. Im not familiar with > FHS and havn't enough time to learn about it

Re: Boot Disks

1998-04-29 Thread Bob Hilliard
Lindsay Allen <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> writes: > May I suggest that you forward your message upstream to either the kernel > people or those who do the drivers. It is downright embarrasing to have > our favourite OS not be able to read a floppy reliably. Actually, my points were that almost all o

New install.txt

1998-04-20 Thread Bob Hilliard
Sorry I'm late in getting back to you with comments on your new version of install.txt. I think this is a big improvement over previous versions. A few minor points to consider: Under "Information You'll Need", you should tell the reader that he doesn't need the network information for

Re: ppp: how to tell the connection speed?

1998-05-02 Thread Bob Hilliard
"Marcelo E. Magallon" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> writes: > On Sat, May 02, 1998 at 08:12:35AM -0500, [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: > > > Marcelo E. Magallon writes: > > > As you can see chat breaks the CONNECT line. Is there a way to tell > > > the connection speed? > > > > 'ATW2' will make the modem (or at

Re: hamm

1998-05-05 Thread Bob Hilliard
[EMAIL PROTECTED] writes: > Trying to upgrade via FTP to hamm would be too painfull at 28.8KB! Hi, It depends on your pain threshold, I guess. I thought that too, until I started the bo testihng program a little over a year ago. Since then I have updated from rex to bo, then bo to hamm, and

Re: mirror-2.9 released, and hopefully DFSG compliant

1998-06-02 Thread Bob Hilliard
Hi, > This new release is fresh code, and I won't pull out all the patches > we applied against mirror_2.8. Let me know if there is a feature in > 2.8 that you really miss. I could make a 'retro' package mirror28 of > the old release. The changelog for mirror 2.8-15 included: * Applied p

Single architecture on -announce lists

2000-03-18 Thread Bob Hilliard
During the slink freeze there was some discussion of the wasted bandwidth due to -devel-announce and -announce listing all packages installed/uploaded to all architectures. As I recall, the consensus was that, after slink was released, these lists would be split by architecture, and an

Re: Single architecture on -announce lists

2000-03-18 Thread Bob Hilliard
Branden Robinson <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> writes: > > > --n8g4imXOkfNTN/H1 > Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii > Content-Disposition: inline > Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable > > On Fri, Mar 17, 2000 at 04:49:54PM -0500, Bob Hilliard wrote: &g

Re: Single architecture on -announce lists

2000-03-19 Thread Bob Hilliard
Ben Collins <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> writes: > On Fri, Mar 17, 2000 at 04:49:54PM -0500, Bob Hilliard wrote: > > During the slink freeze there was some discussion of the wasted > > bandwidth due to -devel-announce and -announce listing all packages > > installed/up

Re: wnpp bug reports

2000-12-22 Thread Bob Hilliard
Josip Rodin <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> writes: > > On Fri, Dec 22, 2000 at 12:58:54PM -0500, Bob Hilliard wrote: > > Is there any way to submit an ITP bug on WNPP, so that the bug > > number appears in the copy to -devel? > > Yes, put -devel in Cc: or (X-Debbugs-

GRUB Questions

2000-12-28 Thread Bob Hilliard
Is there a GRUB mailing list, or is this the proper forum for GRUB questions? Bob -- _ |_) _ |_ Robert D. Hilliard <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> |_) (_) |_) 1294 S.W. Seagull Way <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> Palm City, FL USA GPG Key ID: 390D6559

Bug reports - copies to submitter

2001-01-07 Thread Bob Hilliard
This is probably in the documentation somewhere, but I haven't been able to find it. Which messages to the bug reporting system are automatically forwarded to the submitter, and which must be explicitly copied to [EMAIL PROTECTED] Bob -- _ |_) _ |_ Robert D. Hilliard

Re: Debian conference in the US?

2003-05-24 Thread Bob Hilliard
Please take all of these political screeds off -devel!! Regards. Bob -- _ |_) _ |_Robert D. Hilliard<[EMAIL PROTECTED]> |_) (_) |_) 1294 S.W. Seagull Way <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> Palm City, FL 34990 USA GPG Key ID: 390D6559

Re: Excessive wait for DAM - something needs to be done

2003-07-22 Thread Bob Hilliard
In my experience, James has been very responsive, albeit not verbose, to reasonable questions/requests that don't start out saying "James is a bum - throw him out". Regards, Bob -- _ |_) _ |_Robert D. Hilliard<[EMAIL PROTECTED]> |_) (_) |_) 1294 S.W. Seagull Way

Re: Future releases of Debian

2003-07-25 Thread Bob Hilliard
"Bernhard R. Link" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> writes: > Taken this statement directly it's user-unfriendly in both the sense of > newbie-unfriendly and experienced-unfriendly. (A newbie might like it, > but he will still suffer from it). There is a widespread tendency to consider "newbie" to mean

Re: May packages rm -rf subdirectories of /etc/ ?

2003-07-25 Thread Bob Hilliard
Manoj Srivastava <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> writes: > Umm. apt allows you to determine reverse depends. From there > there is an easy hop to sending email to ask the develoeprsa in > question; or to exaimine a package to look at its conffiles. Slightly off-topic, is there any tool to easi

Re: Future releases of Debian

2003-07-26 Thread Bob Hilliard
John Hasler <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> writes: > Bob Hilliard wrote: >> A true newbie would be one who has never used a computer before. To such >> a person, a CLI is much more intuitive than any GUI. > > Colin Walters writes: >> And your research supporting this is...

/usr/bin/pager

2003-08-07 Thread Bob Hilliard
Is /usr/bin/pager a Debianism, or is it common to other distributions and/or unices? Regards, Bob -- _ |_) _ |_Robert D. Hilliard<[EMAIL PROTECTED]> |_) (_) |_) 1294 S.W. Seagull Way <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> Palm City, FL 34990 USA GPG Key ID: 390D655

ITA freedict

2003-08-23 Thread Bob Hilliard
I sent the following message with the "X-Debbugs-CC: debian-devel@lists.debian.org" header, but apparently [EMAIL PROTECTED] doesn't recognize that header, so I am resending it. -- tags 206113 +ITA thanks I intend to adopt freedict, which was recently orphaned. dict-freedict consi

Re: ITA freedict

2003-08-26 Thread Bob Hilliard
Petter Reinholdtsen <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> writes: > If you set LOCPATH to the equivalent of /usr/lib/locale, and LC_ALL to > the name of the locale you generate, you should get what you want > without being root. Something like this (mostly cut-n-paste from d-i > build system): > > # The variable

Re: ITA freedict

2003-08-28 Thread Bob Hilliard
Steve Langasek <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> writes: . . . > LOCPATH=/tmp/usr/lib/locale dictfmt --locale > ($LOCALE_NAME).$(LOCALE_CHAR= SET) ought to have the desired effect. > All locale-related glibc functions should respect the value of LOCPATH Thanks, Steve. It works as advertised now. I

Problems with XFS patch and SMP

2002-12-08 Thread Bob Hilliard
Bug#171943 reports that dictd 1.8.0 fails to start with the following error message: [EMAIL PROTECTED]:~$ /usr/sbin/dictd -d nofork :I: 2535 starting dictd 1.8.0/rf on Linux 2.4.19-xfs Tue Dec 3 23:43:09 2002 dictd (dict_index_open): Cannot mmap index file "/dev/null(dict_index_open) Cannot

Problems with XFS patch and SMP

2002-12-10 Thread Bob Hilliard
I wrote: > Bug#171943 reports that dictd 1.8.0 fails to start with the > following error message: > > [EMAIL PROTECTED]:~$ /usr/sbin/dictd -d nofork > :I: 2535 starting dictd 1.8.0/rf on Linux 2.4.19-xfs Tue Dec 3 23:43:09 2002 > dictd (dict_index_open): Cannot mmap index file "/dev/nu

Re: The Debian Mentors Project

2003-05-13 Thread Bob Hilliard
Christoph Haas <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> writes: > However the service > was created especially for people who e.g. have written an application > themselves and do not care about becoming a DD. I object to the conept of "people who do not care abou

Re: Questions regarding utf-8

2003-05-14 Thread Bob Hilliard
Thanks to all who replied to my recent question on this subject. Andreas Metzler <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: > With glibc I'd use > iconv --from=SRC-ENCODING --to=DST-ENCODING//TRANSLIT > if it is acceptable to change the length of strings. This will replace > e.g. the Euro-Symbol with "

Re: Questions regarding utf-8

2003-05-16 Thread Bob Hilliard
Andreas Metzler <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> writes: > *prompt* echo ö§ | recode latin1..ascii > "oSS > *prompt* echo ö§ | iconv -f latin1 -t > ascii//TRANSLIT ; echo $? > oe? > -- > »oe« is much better than »"o« and »SS« is no usable replacement for > »§« (I do not think there is one), it wou

rdate can't connect socket

2001-09-16 Thread Bob Hilliard
I posted the following to -user three days ago with no response. Can someone here help? I have the following command in a cron.daily script: rdate time.mist.god This has worked consistently for a long time, but for the past week or two it returns: rdate: Could not co

Re: rdate can't connect socket

2001-09-19 Thread Bob Hilliard
Samuel Tardieu <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> writes: > On 16/09, Bob Hilliard wrote: > > | This has worked consistently for a long time, but for the past > | week or two it returns: > | rdate: Could not connect socket: Connection refused > | > | This message ret

Re: BSP?

2002-04-02 Thread Bob Hilliard
Alan James <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> writes: > Is there a dict dictionary with all these debian TLAs in it ? > I've dont think I've heard BSP before. dict-vera contains most Debian TLAs. I will add BSP to the next release. dict-foldoc includes many Debian TLAs, and defines many Debian-specific

Re: BSP?

2002-04-02 Thread Bob Hilliard
Alan James <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> writes: > Maybe I'll have a look at creating a dict-debian, there seem to be > quite a few potential entries :-) Joey Hess started one several years ago, but abandoned it when I offered to incorporate his work into dict-foldoc. We discussed (I think on -devel)

Re: Packages still in Potato

2002-04-10 Thread Bob Hilliard
Otto Wyss <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> writes: > Packages: dict-easton, dict-gazetteer, dict-hitchcock > The listed packages are still located in the Potato directory, > possibly because there wasn't any update necessary during the full > Woody development phase, but maybe also because there is no intere

Re: mirror-2.9 released, and hopefully DFSG compliant

1998-06-03 Thread Bob Hilliard
Hi, What new and improved features would we forego if you released a mirror28 package? I guess I will have to install 2.9 to see if I'm happy with it. Perhaps you could persuade the author to add support for restarts on partially downloaded files, and any other desirable patches that ar

Re: Volunteer(s) wanted to help with owner@bugs.debian.org

1998-06-10 Thread Bob Hilliard
I will volunteer to work on: 1. Reading and responding to [EMAIL PROTECTED] mail, and 2. Actual administration and maintenance of the bug system (to the extent of my capabilities - I will yell quickly if I get stuck). I would prefer to share these functions with someone else, since I w

dict-foldoc-19980612 removed from Incoming

1998-06-13 Thread Bob Hilliard
Yesterday, 12 Jun 1998, I uploaded dict-foldoc-19980612, which included a new upstream version. After uploading it, I realized that dpkg-buildpackage had treated it as a Debian specific package, so no .orig.tar.gz or .diff was included in the upload. I have removed this package from I

Re: apt and hamm

1998-06-14 Thread Bob Hilliard
[EMAIL PROTECTED] (Adam P. Harris) writes: > (a) we need specific installation instructions for upgrading. Igor, > is this supposed to be part of the install.sgml document, or is it > separate? > > (b) recommend for upgrades that users use *either* autoup.sh or, if > they are daring,

Re: apt and hamm

1998-06-15 Thread Bob Hilliard
[EMAIL PROTECTED] (Adam P. Harris) writes: > Bob Hilliard <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> writes: > > There is a README for autoup.sh on > > {ftp|http}://debian.vicnet.net.au/autoup/. > > > > Both the README and autoup.sh should have a separate (simplified) >

Re: apt and hamm

1998-06-16 Thread Bob Hilliard
[EMAIL PROTECTED] (Adam P. Harris) writes: > > Bob Hilliard <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> writes: > > I will be out of town after tomorrow for about a week, so I won't > > be able to do anything on the README before then, but I don't think > > 2.0 will b

Corporate Visibility for Linux

1998-10-15 Thread Bob Hilliard
The following is quoted from the column Business Bulletin on the front page of today's Wall Street journal, which is probably the most widely read newspaper by corporate America: 'FREEWARE' STIRS debate while entrepreneurs find a nice niche. Advocates prefer to call the free softwa

dupload problem

1999-01-19 Thread Bob Hilliard
=> "/home/Debian/ftp/private/project/Incoming/", mailto => "[EMAIL PROTECTED]", # stable, contrib, non-free mailtx => "[EMAIL PROTECTED]", # unstable, exper. visibleuser => "hilliard", visiblename => "deb

Compiling wordinspect for potato

1999-05-17 Thread Bob Hilliard
I have recently adopted wordinspect and am trying to compile it for potato. The slink version lists the following dependencies: Depends: dict, libc6 (>= 2.0.7u), libglib1.1 (>= 1.1.3-2), libgtk1.1 (>= 1:1.1.\2-2), xlib6g (>= 3.3-5) libglib1.1 and libgtk1.1 are not in potato under those

Re: pending normal debian bugs for debian-devel@lists.debian.org

1999-05-19 Thread Bob Hilliard
[EMAIL PROTECTED] (Marco d'Itri) writes: > > On May 18, Nag <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: > > >#20734 general autoup.sh >http://www.debian.org/Bugs/db/20/20734.html > >#20743 general autoup.sh: wtmp, utmp and btmp