Re: .d.o machines which are down (Re: Questions for the DPL candidates)

On Sun, Mar 20, 2005 at 06:17:10PM -0800, Steve Langasek wrote: > The primary alpha buildd last summer, lully.d.o, went off-line due to > hardware failures and we were left with an under-powered backup, escher, > that was unable to keep up with the package load. This persisted for more > than a mo

Re: Emulated buildds (for SCC architectures)?

On Tue, Mar 22, 2005 at 08:58:41PM -0800, Steve Langasek wrote: > Hi Gunnar, > > I quite agree with Anthony that if we have to emulate the machine, there's > not much sense in supporting it. I disagree: porters should be free to use whatever tools they want to do the job. What is important is whe

Re: Idea: about package installation under chroot.

On Thu, Mar 24, 2005 at 07:42:01PM +0100, Josselin Mouette wrote: > Le jeudi 24 mars 2005 ?? 14:54 -0300, Jorge L. deLyra a ??crit : > > Now, all this can be avoided very simply by a line in the init.d/ script > > for the daemon, checking that /proc is mounted. Since it will be mounted > > on norma

Re: Release update: debian-installer, kernels, infrastructure, freeze, etch, arm

On Fri, Apr 01, 2005 at 03:48:00PM +0200, Andreas Barth wrote: > Debian Installer RC3, kernels > - > > The RC3 release of the debian-installer has been published. As Joey > Hess mentions in his announcement[0], this has been the best-tested > Debian Installer release c

Re: popcon files are corrupted (Was Re: gluck available again / filesystem shaked)

On Fri, Apr 08, 2005 at 10:15:40AM +0200, Igor Genibel wrote: > On Thursday 07 April 2005 19:06, Martin Schulze wrote: > > Hi all, > > [...] > > popcon.debian.org verified > > qa.d.o/developer.php gathers information directly from popcon.d.o and the > backend crashed today. > At le

Re: Bug#303725: specter: FTBFS (amd64/gcc-4.0): syntax error before '{' token

On Fri, Apr 08, 2005 at 07:23:52PM +0200, Verdan wrote: > Hello > > > With the attached patch 'specter' can be compiled > > on amd64 using gcc-4.0. > > It's not so easy. It was done that way to allow specter compile on gcc > 2.95. This patch makes it impossible, so I hesitate to apply it. How is

Re: Bug#250202: intend-to-implement: script to obtain Debian Source

On Tue, Apr 12, 2005 at 10:29:10PM +0900, Junichi Uekawa wrote: > > > unpack: some packages unpack the upstream tarball, some do patching > > > patch: some patch the source tree, some generate patch out of it. > > 2. A policy on what target to have for optional unpacking and patching, > > and app

Re: menu files in /usr/lib?

On Wed, Apr 27, 2005 at 07:41:09PM +0200, martin f krafft wrote: > Hi developers, > > I was unable to find an answer online, so please allow me to ask > here: why are Debian menu files in /usr/lib? They are clear-text and > thus clearly architecture-independent. Hello Martin, Debian has a nice sy

Re: Publicly available mbox archives of debian mailing lists + Bug#161440

On Thu, Apr 28, 2005 at 02:38:34PM +1000, Pascal Hakim wrote: > On Wed, 2005-04-27 at 23:20 -0500, Peter Samuelson wrote: > > [EMAIL PROTECTED] > > > It would be really handy to have archives of the debian mailing lists > > > available as mbox archives. > > > > The correct solution, until someone

woody-to-sarge test upgrade

Hello Debian developers, I am performing semi-automatised woody-to-sarge upgrade of one server and I find the upgrade is more painful than what is necessary. apt-get dist-upgrade try to remove lots of the packages, and doing so trigger bugs. The following packages will be REMOVED: apache apach

Re: woody-to-sarge test upgrade

On Fri, Apr 29, 2005 at 08:04:53PM +0200, Henning Glawe wrote: > On Fri, Apr 29, 2005 at 07:48:00PM +0200, Bill Allombert wrote: > > I am performing semi-automatised woody-to-sarge upgrade of one > > server and I find the upgrade is more painful than what is necessary. > &

Re: woody-to-sarge test upgrade

On Sat, Apr 30, 2005 at 12:13:23PM +0300, Cesar Martinez Izquierdo wrote: > El Sábado 30 Abril 2005 01:42, [EMAIL PROTECTED] escribió: > > > > Ah yes, aptitude dist-upgrade works much better and is non-interactive. > > That fix the problem with the needless removal of apache, etc. > > > > Thanks! >

Re: woody-to-sarge test upgrade

On Sat, Apr 30, 2005 at 11:44:38PM +1000, Hamish Moffatt wrote: > On Sat, Apr 30, 2005 at 11:43:49AM +0200, Bill Allombert wrote: > > Yes... I did not know "aptitude dist-upgrade" was different from "apt > > dist-upgrade". The woody aptitude manpage do

Re: suggested buildd service [Was: Re: Compiling on a Debian machine]

On Sun, May 01, 2005 at 01:10:50PM +0200, Goswin von Brederlow wrote: > Hi, > > I've had an idea in mind for quite some time now for just this > problem. > > It would be nice to have a buildd where maintainer can upload sources > for a testbuild and they get a buildd log back (and possibly the >

Re: RC bug #308477 and MIA maintainer (?)

On Thu, May 12, 2005 at 07:59:33PM -0700, Steve Langasek wrote: > severity 308477 important > thanks > > You are correct that it is a policy violation. However, not all policy > violations are release-critical for a given release; see Maybe I will sound procedural or something, but I would reall

Re: RC bug #308477 and MIA maintainer (?)

On Sat, May 14, 2005 at 04:23:02AM -0700, Steve Langasek wrote: > On Sat, May 14, 2005 at 05:59:07AM -0500, Bill Allombert wrote: > > On Thu, May 12, 2005 at 07:59:33PM -0700, Steve Langasek wrote: > > > severity 308477 important > > > thanks > > > > You ar

Re: [Release Notes] Use Woody's or Sarge's aptitude for upgrades?

retitle 309357 woody aptitude update can fail quit On Tue, May 17, 2005 at 01:45:14PM +0200, Gaudenz Steinlin wrote: > On Mon, May 16, 2005 at 05:58:24PM +0200, Frans Pop wrote: > > Long version: > > The current version of the release notes tells users to (simplified): > > 1. apt-get install aptitu

Re: Entries in Packages files that lack a Source field

On Thu, May 19, 2005 at 07:34:46PM +0200, Jeroen van Wolffelaar wrote: > On Thu, May 19, 2005 at 12:18:55PM +0200, Goswin von Brederlow wrote: > > The detection of binary NMUs is currently, among others, using the > > debian version of a package and guessing from its form. What is a > > binary NMU

Re: [frankie@debian.org: Status of kernel-patches in sarge]

On Sat, May 21, 2005 at 10:04:02AM +0200, Francesco Paolo Lovergine wrote: > The check shown below is almost complete (but for a couple of 2.2 patches > and per-arch patches). > I'm asking if mass bug report filing is opportune at this stage. > IMHO patches which cannot be applied to debian kernel-

Re: OpenCV not in testing

On Mon, May 23, 2005 at 09:07:10AM +0200, Olivier Bornet wrote: > Hello, > > Is it possible to push opencv in testing ? And if not, can we do > something to have opencv in testing soon ? To keep the record straight: merkel% madison libdc1394 libdc1394 |0.8.3-1 |stable | source lib

ITP: sid - Run commands in your /sid chroot

Well not really, but I am using a program called 'sid' for some years now, and I thought I would share it with you. sid is a straight-forward wrapper that do 'chroot /sid' that does not get in the way as dchroot does (IMHO), since it does not take options and preserve the environment, cwd, etc, an

Re: ITP: sid - Run commands in your /sid chroot

On Fri, May 27, 2005 at 10:35:43PM +1000, Hamish Moffatt wrote: > On Fri, May 27, 2005 at 01:56:54PM +0200, Bill Allombert wrote: > > Well not really, but I am using a program called 'sid' for some years > > now, and I thought I would share it with you. > > Her

Re: Linda warnings

On Sun, May 29, 2005 at 01:31:31PM -0500, Peter Samuelson wrote: > Build-depend on autotools-dev, and copy /usr/share/misc/config.guess > and config.sub into place at build time. ln -fs also works. It's a > very light build dep, so there's not much point in patching the right > files into the sou

Re: Is Ubuntu a debian derivative or is it a fork?

On Tue, May 31, 2005 at 08:56:15AM -0700, Stephen Birch wrote: > The Ubuntu literature indicates that Ubuntu is a derivative of debian > but it looks more like a fork to me. One question that can hep deciding that issue is whether Ubuntu users are also Debian users. As far as popularity-contest

Re: Is Ubuntu a debian derivative or is it a fork?

On Thu, Jun 02, 2005 at 10:44:33AM -0700, Matt Zimmerman wrote: > On Thu, Jun 02, 2005 at 10:17:08AM -0500, Bill Allombert wrote: > > > As far as popularity-contest is involved, Ubuntu users are not Debian > > users since they cannot report to popcon.debian.org because the >

Re: Is Ubuntu a debian derivative or is it a fork?

On Thu, Jun 02, 2005 at 10:44:33AM -0700, Matt Zimmerman wrote: > On Thu, Jun 02, 2005 at 10:17:08AM -0500, Bill Allombert wrote: > > > As far as popularity-contest is involved, Ubuntu users are not Debian > > users since they cannot report to popcon.debian.org because the >

Re: Is Ubuntu a debian derivative or is it a fork?

On Sat, Jun 04, 2005 at 06:38:54PM +0200, Petter Reinholdtsen wrote: > [Ante Karamati?] > > All new Ubuntu packages should have ITP on Debian lists. For > > example, if I package app that isn't in Debian, and I package it for > > Ubuntu, I will fill ITP for that package on Debian list. > > This is

Re: need help to solve celestia bug#303860

On Sun, Jun 05, 2005 at 02:38:49AM +0200, Mathias Weyland wrote: > Hi > > I'm trying to solve bug #303860 but I need some help. The problem is that > the configure script errors on sparc because it can't find the KDE > libraries. All other architechtures build fine. > > linda complained that the

Re: Bug#311997: ITP: gaim-latex -- gaim plugin wich translate LaTeX code into image in conversation

On Sat, Jun 04, 2005 at 08:18:59PM +0200, Florent Bayle wrote: > Le Samedi 4 Juin 2005 19:43, Martin Braure de Calignon a ?crit : > [...] > > Provides the use of LaTeX code in conversation in gaim. The code is > > converted in image by tex2im script (imagemagick) and the image is sent to > > your

Re: C++ ABI change for etch -- freeze unstable for all C++ libs with changed or new sonames

On Sun, Jun 05, 2005 at 01:25:28PM +0200, Matthias Klose wrote: > The time frame of the C++ ABI changed is not yet fixed. We will > certainly need some time to get the toolchain in shape to start the > transition. In the meantime you can check the new compilers in > unstable (g++-3.4) and in expe

Re: Is Ubuntu a debian derivative or is it a fork?

On Mon, Jun 06, 2005 at 12:55:36PM +0100, Colin Watson wrote: > On Mon, Jun 06, 2005 at 11:45:59PM +1200, Nigel Jones wrote: > > On 06/06/05, Colin Watson <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: > > > On Mon, Jun 06, 2005 at 02:13:50AM -0700, Stephen Birch wrote: > > > > Is it your hope that the debian project

Re: Canonical and Debian

On Sun, Jun 05, 2005 at 06:05:53PM -0700, Steve Langasek wrote: > Clone yourself and make yourself a slave to the buildds for 7 or 8 Yes, that is what I plan do to. > architectures, so that the release team doesn't have to. Neither the > release team nor the FTP team is interested in being respo

Re: Canonical and Debian

On Mon, Jun 06, 2005 at 07:58:13PM +0100, Colin Watson wrote: > On Mon, Jun 06, 2005 at 02:12:00PM -0400, Stephen Frost wrote: > > * Steve Langasek ([EMAIL PROTECTED]) wrote: > > > Clone yourself and make yourself a slave to the buildds for 7 or 8 > > > architectures, so that the release team doesn

Re: Bug#311997: ITP: gaim-latex -- gaim plugin wich translate LaTeX code into image in conversation

On Tue, Jun 07, 2005 at 05:19:40PM +0200, Martin Braure de Calignon wrote: > > I have blacklisted the same command than kopetetex, that is : > > > #define NB_BLACKLIST (42) > > > #define BLACKLIST > > > {"\\def","\\let","\\futurelet","\\newcommand","\\renewcomment","\\else","\\fi","\\write","\\inp

Re: Canonical and Debian

On Tue, Jun 07, 2005 at 10:31:24PM +0200, Tollef Fog Heen wrote: > * Julien BLACHE > > | A bug is a bug, whether it triggers or not. > > It's not RC and therefore not a priority if it has no effect. Why do you assume it is non-RC ? In practice, a FTBFS on a plateform can be a grave runtime bug

Re: Some bits of experience gained from handling upgrade-reports.

On Thu, Jun 09, 2005 at 11:16:05PM -0700, Stephen Birch wrote: > Bill > > Just out of curiosity, when testing the upgrade procedure how do you > select the mix of packages installed prior to the upgrade? So far I was using the set of packages provided by the submitters of upgrade-reports, so I co

Re: TODO for etch ?

On Sat, Jun 11, 2005 at 10:44:14PM +0200, Joerg Friedrich wrote: > - improved menu system: > > I'd like to have the possibilty to hide some programs from the users > menu, or from groups of users. > > present them a 'smaller default' > > and let them easily adjust their person

Bug#313183: RFA: eterm-themes -- Themes for Eterm, the Enlightened Terminal Emulator

Package: wnpp Severity: normal Dear developers, I don't use Eterm anymore, so I don't have much use of eterm-themes. It is a very low maintainance package, though. The package description is: This package contains themes for Eterm, the Enlightened Terminal Emulator, from www.eterm.org. Please

Re: Bug#312897: ITP: texlive -- The TeXlive system packaged for debian

On Mon, Jun 13, 2005 at 09:41:47AM +0200, frank wrote: > > If we had texlive in Debian, there wouldn't be such pressure. teTeX > would be updated to the current version shortly after a release, and > then would stick to that upstream version no matter what happened until > the next release. And

Re: AMD64 CDs and DVDs released

On Tue, Jun 14, 2005 at 12:33:42AM +0200, Santiago Garcia Mantinan wrote: > > As AMD64 is unofficial, the URL for downloading the images is slightly > different to that used for the officially-released sarge > architectures: How exactly AMD64 is unofficial (apart for the use of uppercase) ? Did n

Re: Ongoing Firefox (and Thunderbird) Trademark problems

On Tue, Jun 14, 2005 at 09:29:22AM +0100, Gervase Markham wrote: > Thijs Kinkhorst wrote: > >However, in #4, an explicit exception is made for program names and > >version numbers. They are not considered fundamental enough to software to > >require them to be as absolutely free as source code. So

Re: And now for something completely different... etch!

On Tue, Jun 14, 2005 at 02:00:02PM +0200, Romain Francoise wrote: > Steve Langasek <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> writes: > > > Toolchain update to gcc/g++ 4.0 - Matthias Klose <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> > > Switch to dependency-based init.d handling -- Lars Wirzenius <[EMAIL > > PROTECTED]> > > Drop libpng2/libp

Re: splitting package on arch-dependant and arch-independant parts

On Tue, Jun 14, 2005 at 09:39:09PM +0600, Sergey Fedoseev wrote: > ?? ??, 14/06/2005 ?? 16:55 +0200, Bartosz Fenski aka fEnIo ??: > > There's only one rule. Architecture dependent files go to binary package, > > and architecture independent to data package. > > I consider some common

Re: Debian menu update and /usr/share/menu transition

On Wed, Jun 15, 2005 at 05:38:06PM +0200, David Weinehall wrote: > On Wed, Jun 15, 2005 at 04:34:06PM +0200, Bill Allombert wrote: > [snip] > > 3) menu now support automatic translations of menu sections, in 32 > > different languages and this is supported out-of-the-box by a

Getting rid of circular dependencies

Dear Debian developers, Following a post to Debian-Devel-Announce, I would like to discuss getting rid of circular dependencies. Why ? - 1) The semantic of Depends specified by Debian policy 7.2. does not allow packages with circular dependencies to be installed at all: `Depends' This

Debian ARM porters on debian-arm needed

Dear Debian developers, To support arm, we need people with sufficient hardware and knowledge subscribed to [EMAIL PROTECTED] Without them, we cannot adress issues like woody to sarge upgrade process on arm. Of course this is true for all architecture, but so far this month, Debian arm received

Re: Getting rid of circular dependencies

On Fri, Jun 24, 2005 at 11:36:16AM -0500, Peter Samuelson wrote: > > [Petri Latvala] > > It is an abuse of the Depends field. foo-data doesn't *need* foo for > > its own operations. Nothing in -data fails to execute without foo > > (because there's just data, nothing to execute). > > Depends does

Re: Getting rid of circular dependencies

On Fri, Jun 24, 2005 at 07:39:16PM +0200, Santiago Vila wrote: > > Perhaps we should just move to section libs any package which is > useless by itself, and it's only useful in combination with others, > much like libraries, but without requiring them to be real libraries. Good idea. Or we could

Re: Getting rid of circular dependencies

On Sat, Jun 25, 2005 at 02:43:28PM +0900, Junichi Uekawa wrote: > > > 1) foo and foo-data. There is usualy no reason for foo-data to depend on > > foo. foo-data does not provide user-visible interface, only data, so it > > does not need to depend on foo. > > However, we have some users randomly f

Re: Getting rid of circular dependencies

On Tue, Jun 28, 2005 at 01:46:06PM +0200, Josselin Mouette wrote: > Le vendredi 24 juin 2005 à 17:21 +0200, Bill Allombert a écrit : > > 2) libfoo and foo-bin, where foo-bin include binaries linked with > > libfoo. Usually libfoo only need to Depends on configuration data > >

Re: Getting rid of circular dependencies

On Tue, Jun 28, 2005 at 04:05:55PM +0200, Josselin Mouette wrote: > Le mardi 28 juin 2005 à 14:51 +0200, Bill Allombert a écrit : > > 1) include the offending binary (e.g. fc-cache) in the library package. > > No. See policy, §8.2. You could ship fc-cache as /usr/lib/libfontconf

Re: Ongoing Firefox (and Thunderbird) Trademark problems

On Tue, Jun 28, 2005 at 09:39:05AM +0100, Gervase Markham wrote: > Cameron Patrick wrote: > >I'm curious as to how this would apply to Debian-derived distributions > >which either (a) don't change the Firefox/Thunderbird packages, or (b) > >change them in some trivial way. Would someone taking the

Re: Getting rid of circular dependencies

On Tue, Jun 28, 2005 at 02:56:54PM -0700, Steve Langasek wrote: > On Tue, Jun 28, 2005 at 06:30:32PM +0200, Bill Allombert wrote: > > On Tue, Jun 28, 2005 at 04:05:55PM +0200, Josselin Mouette wrote: > > > Le mardi 28 juin 2005 à 14:51 +0200, Bill Allombert a écrit : >

Re: Getting rid of circular dependencies

On Wed, Jun 29, 2005 at 04:03:11PM -0700, Steve Langasek wrote: > > Packages needing fc-cache outside of libfontconfig1 can use the symlink > > /usr/bin/fc-cache -> /usr/lib/libfontconfig1/fc-cache provided by > > fontconfig (which they already depends on). fontconfig will of course > > depend on

Re: Getting rid of circular dependencies

On Tue, Jun 28, 2005 at 02:51:52PM +0200, Bill Allombert wrote: > In all that cases, you can _either_: > > 3) change the shlibs file to document the dependency on the library, e.g > change libfontconfig1.shlibs to > libfontconfig 1 libfontconfig1 (>= 2.3.0), fontconfig > and

Re: Linking a static library with -fPIC for flex

On Tue, Sep 05, 2006 at 04:50:24PM -0500, Manoj Srivastava wrote: > Hi, > > Starting with version 2.5.31-18 of flex we have started > providing a static library compiled with position independent code, > namely, libfl_pic.a, in addition to the normal libfl.a library. This > is my mail,

Re: transitioning config files between two packages

On Tue, Sep 12, 2006 at 05:21:50PM -0700, Steve Langasek wrote: > I do know also that beginning with the dpkg version in etch, the Conflicts: > is no longer required when moving conffiles, it's possible to use Replaces: > by itself. I wonder if a versioned depend on dpkg can ensure the new dpkg is

Re: lilypond and thanks to Rob Browning

On Wed, Sep 13, 2006 at 10:30:17AM -0700, Thomas Bushnell BSG wrote: > It is my hope that #359855 will not exist in the new lilypond. > However, this is just a hope. If ghostscript continues to have such a > bug, then solving it will become of critical priority for getting > lilypond into the rele

Re: transitioning config files between two packages

On Thu, Sep 14, 2006 at 01:40:12PM +0200, Tollef Fog Heen wrote: > * Bill Allombert > > | On Tue, Sep 12, 2006 at 05:21:50PM -0700, Steve Langasek wrote: > | > I do know also that beginning with the dpkg version in etch, the > Conflicts: > | > is no longer required whe

Re: Policy process (was: [Pkg-sysvinit-devel] Re: Moving /var/run to a tmpfs?)

On Sun, Sep 17, 2006 at 11:43:18AM -0700, Russ Allbery wrote: > Kurt Roeckx <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> writes: > > > I don't think policy changes need to be seconded. We have a policy team > > that should decide on what comes in policy and what not. Although, it > > more looks like it's just 1 person d

Re: Help with menu (Was: Bug#389932: wish: gnumed --debug should open terminal window)

On Thu, Sep 28, 2006 at 04:37:58PM +0200, Alexander Schmehl wrote: > Hi! > > * Andreas Tille <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> [060928 16:09]: > > > is there any relieable way to force opening a terminal from a menu > > entry and call a programm from this terminal to make sure that > > console output will be v

Re: Help with menu (Was: Bug#389932: wish: gnumed --debug should open terminal window)

On Fri, Sep 29, 2006 at 10:31:57AM +0100, Jon Dowland wrote: > Andreas Tille wrote: > > 3. File bugs against all packages that provide > > x-terminal-emulator but do not show the -hold feature > > (would this be reasonable) It would not, to few x-terminal-emulator provide -hold. > >

Re: Help with piuparts?

On Fri, Sep 29, 2006 at 12:25:28AM +0300, Lars Wirzenius wrote: > I'm not going to be able to work much on piuparts in the coming months. > This includes both improving the code, and processing log files and > reporting bugs found by piuparts. > > It might be a good idea if someone else, or severa

Re: Help with menu (Was: Bug#389932: wish: gnumed --debug should open terminal window)

On Tue, Oct 03, 2006 at 10:24:37PM +0900, Charles Plessy wrote: > Le Fri, Sep 29, 2006 at 07:37:24AM +0200, Andreas Tille a ?crit : > > >3. File bugs against all packages that provide > > x-terminal-emulator but do not show the -hold feature > > (would this be reasonable) > > > >

Re: Help with menu (Was: Bug#389932: wish: gnumed --debug should open terminal window)

On Mon, Oct 09, 2006 at 01:33:03PM +0200, Andreas Tille wrote: > The solution that was suggested by you and Philipp Benner seems to be not > aware to lintian > > W: gnumed-client-debug: menu-command-not-in-package > /usr/share/menu/gnumed-client-debug:5 x-terminal-emulator > > Shouldn't a > >

Re: [OT] Your opinion about...

> I have been reading about Dunc Tank. I did it because I'm seeing lots > of messages of disgusting, lots of packages have been orphaned, and > blog entries that have a kind of upset, too. > > I would be glad if you give me your opinions about Dunc Tank, or > whatever is causing problems. I think

Re: Question regarding maintainer email

On Mon, Oct 16, 2006 at 03:36:39PM -0400, Daniel Jacobowitz wrote: > On Mon, Oct 16, 2006 at 07:51:04PM +0200, Tobias Frost wrote: > > My question, is, if this is ok with the debian packaging policy chapter > > 3.3, or not (that is should I file a bug?) > > It is not considered acceptable. It's t

Getting rid of circular dependencies, stage 6

Hello Debian developers, Thanks to your collective effort, the number of circular dependencies in Debian has halved since the begining of the year. Here the lists of packages involved in circular dependencies listed by maintainers. This list is also available at

Re: First draft of review of policy must usage

On Wed, Oct 25, 2006 at 01:03:11AM -0500, Manoj Srivastava wrote: > @@ -113,36 +113,6 @@ > either. Please see for more information. > > > - > - In the normative part of this manual, > - the words must, should and > - may, and the adjectives required, > -

Re: arches and etch

On Sat, Oct 28, 2006 at 01:04:28PM +0100, Neil McGovern wrote: > > 7) Perhaps we should consider the balance between making debian just > >another glitzy quick-release plaything for mass consumption and > >minimal user contribution, and a system designed to give users who > >care and co

Re: On including 64-bit libs in 32-bit packages (see #344104)

On Mon, Oct 23, 2006 at 07:30:47PM +0100, Matthew Garrett wrote: > Goswin von Brederlow <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: > > "Nikita V. Youshchenko" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> writes: > >> Is it possible to make 64bit kernels available? > > > > Sarge does have them and the BTS has a patch for linux-2.6 to enab

Re: Proposed new POSIX sh policy

On Fri, Nov 10, 2006 at 12:01:10AM -0600, Manoj Srivastava wrote: > Hi, > > Firstly, should we be pointing to the SuS instead of POSIX > (there is work going on a new version of the SUS), since it is open, > and readily available on th 'net, and people can readily see it (as > opposed t

Re: Proposed new POSIX sh policy

On Wed, Nov 15, 2006 at 11:13:37AM +0100, Gabor Gombas wrote: > On Tue, Nov 14, 2006 at 09:36:36PM -0800, Thomas Bushnell BSG wrote: > > > Why? Surely it would be useful to know what the differences are between > > various shells. The statement "Posix-compatible" was apparently > > intended by t

Re: Proposed new POSIX sh policy

On Thu, Nov 16, 2006 at 09:44:55AM +0100, Andreas Barth wrote: > * Thomas Bushnell BSG ([EMAIL PROTECTED]) [061116 09:35]: > > On Thu, 2006-11-16 at 09:30 +0100, Andreas Barth wrote: > > > * [EMAIL PROTECTED] ([EMAIL PROTECTED]) [061115 18:31]: > > > > 1. /bin/sh can be a symbolic link to any shell

Re: Proposed new POSIX sh policy

On Wed, Nov 15, 2006 at 10:50:40PM -0600, Manoj Srivastava wrote: > On Wed, 15 Nov 2006 17:15:14 -0800, Russ Allbery <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> said: > > I would rather get away from this wording totally. > , > | "Shell scripts specifying /bin/sh as interpreter must only use POSIX > | feat

Re: Proposed new POSIX sh policy, version two

On Thu, Nov 23, 2006 at 01:15:28AM +0200, Jari Aalto wrote: > I would drop that "special" case and always require explicit > requirement for the shell. It's more clear to see which packages > "need" bash to make them work. someone may then provide a patch to > "make bash go away". I suggest removin

Re: Proposed new POSIX sh policy, version two

On Thu, Nov 23, 2006 at 07:41:08PM +0100, David Weinehall wrote: > > And compared to dash, the difference is vast: > > -rwxr-xr-x 1 root root 80200 2006-11-21 16:36 /bin/dash > > RSS for dash on sid seems to be 464kB. No woody to compare with. dash in woody was still called ash. Cheers, -- B

Re: Bug#400070: RFP: gaia -- Google Earth client

On Sat, Nov 25, 2006 at 01:20:41AM +0100, Jose Carlos Garcia Sogo wrote: > El jue, 23-11-2006 a las 18:50 +0100, Axel Beckert escribi??: > > Package: wnpp > > Severity: wishlist > > > > * Package name: gaia > > Version : 0.1.0 > > Upstream Author : [EMAIL PROTECTED] > > * URL or We

Re: Bug#400070: RFP: gaia -- Google Earth client

On Sun, Nov 26, 2006 at 01:23:12AM +0100, Petter Reinholdtsen wrote: > > [Bill Allombert] > > Someone should grab gaia-0.1.0.tar.bz2 from Google cache and then > > claim that Google distributed the software under the GNU GPL. > > Hehe. Doubt that will have any effect, th

Full lintian result for sid-ia64

Dear developers I ran lintian over the full sid-ia64 archive. Results are below, presented in the same way as lintian.debian.org. Cheers, -- Bill. <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> Imagine a large blue swirl here. -- To UNSUBSCRIBE, email to

Re: Mass closing of bugs ?

On Sun, Dec 03, 2006 at 11:46:37AM +0100, Mike Hommey wrote: > Hi, > > Now that iceape replaces mozilla and provides mozilla packages for > transition, the BTS now show all old mozilla bugs in the iceape reports. > These may or may not include bugs that don't exist anymore, and > considering how m

Building m68k packages on aranym

Hello Debian developers, Since October I have experimented with building m68k packages under aranym. This resulted is some issues reported to the Aranym developers, which are now fixed in aranym 0.9.4beta2-1 in sid. This version has proven quite reliable, since I have been able to build large pac

Re: KDE and Gnome panel applets showing percentage of broken packages

On Tue, Dec 05, 2006 at 04:25:23PM +0100, Berke Durak wrote: > Hello, > > We are collecting Debian metadata daily and running installability > checks. For instance, today, 1.3% of the packages in unstable/i386 are > broken. The worst in the past 3 months has been on September 10th and > 11th wit

Re: please let mplayer into testing

On Tue, Dec 12, 2006 at 11:09:09PM +0100, A Mennucc wrote: > anyway, shortly after I wrote that email, the situation reverted again > (for worse); so currently there is no agreement between me and Aurelien, > and I put that matter to d-ctte, in bug 402772 If you need an example of massive code dup

lintian results for etch-i386

Dear Debian developers, The full lintian results for etch-i386 is available at Cheers, -- Bill. <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> Imagine a large blue swirl here. -- To UNSUBSCRIBE, email to [EMAIL PROTECTED] with a subject of "unsubscri

Re: restricted sourceless ARM uploads

On Wed, Dec 20, 2006 at 05:05:21PM +, Wookey wrote: > On 2006-12-20 17:39 +0100, Aurelien Jarno wrote: > > Hi, > > > > For those who don't know, I have setup 8 emulated ARM build daemons and > > started to upload packages. To know why and for more information, see > > [1]. > > Very impressive

Re: restricted sourceless ARM uploads

On Wed, Dec 20, 2006 at 12:32:25PM -0600, Bill Gatliff wrote: > > Could you try those packages on hedges? (You can get developer access > from Wookey if you need it). Hedges has 512MB real and 1.5GB swap. And > unlike leisner, the netwinders, or nslu2s, it's expandable if needed. No use, thi

Re: Delayed ldconfig execution in postinst step

On Sun, Mar 12, 2006 at 01:56:13PM +0100, Eduard Bloch wrote: > Hi people, > > I just wondered why exactly my laptop uses that much time for updates > and I think that calling ldconfig is a main problem. In theory, it > should not cost much time because VFS cache has the relevant file parts. > How

Re: Delayed ldconfig execution in postinst step

On Sat, Mar 18, 2006 at 10:56:14PM +0100, Eduard Bloch wrote: > #include > * Eduard Bloch [Sat, Mar 18 2006, 10:52:53PM]: > > #include > > * Bill Allombert [Sat, Mar 18 2006, 02:56:27PM]: > > > On Sun, Mar 12, 2006 at 01:56:13PM +0100, Eduard Bloch wrote: > >

Re: When to drop/split/summ changelog files

On Mon, Mar 27, 2006 at 08:13:24PM +0200, Adrian von Bidder wrote: > On Sunday 26 March 2006 20:18, Nico Golde wrote: > > Hi, > > what would be the appropriate way to handle large and old > > debian changelog files. > > Rather arbitrarily, just feels more or less safe: cut everything from > befo

Bug#361418: [Proposal] new Debian menu structure

Package: debian-policy Version: 3.6.2.2 Severity: wishlist Background: -- The menu structure define the list of sections and subsections of the Debian menu system (which are displayed in window-managers menus). The official list is part of the Debian menu subpolicy. This list is a bit out

Re: Bug#361418: [Proposal] new Debian menu structure

On Tue, Apr 11, 2006 at 12:22:53AM +0200, Eduard Bloch wrote: > #include > * Bill Allombert [Mon, Apr 10 2006, 11:57:48PM]: > > > I would like to stress that modules menu entries use window-managers > > specific 'needs' fields and as such are not bound by the D

Re: Bug#361418: [Proposal] new Debian menu structure

On Tue, Apr 11, 2006 at 01:56:50AM +0200, Eduard Bloch wrote: > #include > * Bill Allombert [Tue, Apr 11 2006, 12:34:45AM]: > > Yep. WRT you said above, what abot renaming "WindowManagers/Modules" to > "$wm Modules" (one level above WM starters and indicating

Re: Bug#361418: [Proposal] new Debian menu structure

On Fri, Apr 14, 2006 at 10:25:14AM -0300, Ben Armstrong wrote: > The pkg-games project has discussed in the past that "Arcade" is a poor > category, and yet it is preserved in this new menu proposal. > > The thread starts here: > > http://lists.alioth.debian.org/pipermail/pkg-games-devel/2006-Jan

Re: Bug#361418: [Proposal] new Debian menu structure

On Fri, Apr 21, 2006 at 10:13:53AM +0100, Jon Dowland wrote: > At 1145044383 past the epoch, Linas ??virblis wrote: > > Manoj Srivastava wrote: > > > > > Amateur radio is the dumb name, for people who > > > are confused by what the practioners call it -- > > > HAM radio. >

Re: Bug#364319: base-files: PS1 setting for *ksh (PROPOSAL: /etc/profile.d/)

On Thu, Apr 27, 2006 at 12:53:01PM +0200, cobaco (aka Bart Cornelis) wrote: > On Sunday 23 April 2006 20:26, Russ Allbery wrote: > > Jari Aalto <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> writes: > > > > What we need and what should have been done a long time ago, is to > > > modularize profile to /etc/profile.d/ where e

Getting rid of circular dependencies, stage 4

Hello Debian developers, Here the lists of packages involved in circular dependencies listed by maintainers. This list is also available at (update daily, courtesy of Robert Lemmen). A list of dependencies including dependency graphs is avai

Re: Getting rid of circular dependencies, stage 4

On Wed, May 10, 2006 at 05:23:34AM +0200, Michael Koch wrote: > Hello, > > > > antlr > > gjdoc > > Somehow these seem to be false positives to me because the packages > depend on a java runtime environment which can but does not have to > depend on. The dependency involve the following

Re: Getting rid of circular dependencies, stage 4

On Wed, May 10, 2006 at 10:40:32PM +1000, Brendan O'Dea wrote: > On Tue, May 09, 2006 at 10:49:36PM +0200, Bill Allombert wrote: > >Here the lists of packages involved in circular dependencies listed by > >maintainers. > > > > perl > > perl-modules &

Re: Getting rid of circular dependencies, stage 4

On Wed, May 10, 2006 at 01:41:56PM -0400, Hubert Chan wrote: > On Wed, 10 May 2006 09:04:14 -0400, James Vega <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> said: > > > On Wed, May 10, 2006 at 12:32:53AM -0400, Hubert Chan wrote: > >> Hmm... alsaplayer-common Depends: on "alsaplayer-alsa | > >> alsaplayer-output" and "alsa

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