Re: A case study of a new user turned off debian

2003-11-04 Thread Andrew Suffield
offhand, but it's quite doable. I believe it is merely that the kernel can't autodetect the presence of this controller in older versions. -- .''`. ** Debian GNU/Linux ** | Andrew Suffield : :' : http://www.debian.org/ | `. `' | `-

re: Grsec/PaX and Exec-shield

2003-11-04 Thread Andrew Saunders
On Tue 4 November, spender wrote: > I've spared you your precious time and gone ahead and done this for > you. You might have a better reception if you dropped the attitude. Anyone reading the thread will quickly form the opinion that maintaining PaX within Debian would likely require frequent i

Re: Package libc6-dev depends on linux-kernel-headers

2003-11-05 Thread Andrew Pimlott
nel modules, and need not match the running kernel or any installed kernel source tree. Andrew

Re: Bug#219582: ITP: linux -- Linux 2.4 kernel

2003-11-07 Thread Andrew Suffield
g to do it > > from one package, and why we don't do that already? > > I haven't noticed, so thanks for pointing this out. The fix is trivial, btw. No, the fix is a fucking huge amount of work, which is why nobody has done it before, even for the upstream kernel. -- .&

Re: On linux kernel packaging issue

2003-11-08 Thread Andrew Suffield
el programming knows that differences are as likely to cause a performance loss as they are to cause a gain. More so, in fact; it's easier to make code slower than it is to make it faster. We're all very interested in *real* evidence here, because there hasn't been any in the past. If

Re: On linux kernel packaging issue

2003-11-08 Thread Andrew Suffield
On Sat, Nov 08, 2003 at 01:58:29PM +0100, Mateusz Papiernik wrote: > Andrew Suffield wrote: > >We're all very interested in *real* evidence here, because there > >hasn't been any in the past. If you don't have any evidence, you can > >expect people to call bul

Re: Bug#219582: ITP: linux -- Linux 2.4 kernel

2003-11-09 Thread Andrew Suffield
ndarisation means? "Creation of an arbitrary feature set that all parties involved agree is worse than what they had before". "Standards" are snake oil. -- .''`. ** Debian GNU/Linux ** | Andrew Suffield : :' : http://www.debian.org/ | `. `'

Re: On linux kernel packaging issue, assuming that user is never right

2003-11-09 Thread Andrew Suffield
On Sat, Nov 08, 2003 at 06:59:39PM +0100, Mathieu Roy wrote: > Andrew Suffield <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> a tapoté : > > > On Sat, Nov 08, 2003 at 01:58:29PM +0100, Mateusz Papiernik wrote: > >> Andrew Suffield wrote: > >> >We're all very interested in *rea

Re: On linux kernel packaging issue

2003-11-09 Thread Andrew Suffield
On Sun, Nov 09, 2003 at 09:53:26AM +1100, Glenn McGrath wrote: > On Sat, 8 Nov 2003 12:33:15 + > Andrew Suffield <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: > > > We're all very interested in *real* evidence here, because there > > hasn't been any in the past. If

Re: On linux kernel packaging issue

2003-11-09 Thread Andrew Suffield
On Sun, Nov 09, 2003 at 09:18:34AM +1100, Glenn McGrath wrote: > On Sat, 8 Nov 2003 12:33:15 + > Andrew Suffield <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: > > > Please provide carefully documented evidence of the performance gains > > that you are claiming, not handwaving. Evid

Re: GPM to 1.20.1?

2003-11-09 Thread Andrew Pimlott
add lots of dubious patches. I don't use the packaged gpm because the Debian patches cause my mouse to fail to initialize. My past attempts to discuss this with the maintainer (Zephaniah Hull) were unproductive, though I'd be happy to try again. Andrew

Re: Bug#219163: ITP: synaptic-touchpad -- Synaptics TouchPad driver for XFree86

2003-11-10 Thread Andrew Lau
ase do it right and try and it get the xserver-xfree86's debconf scripts to do all the configuration, otherwise it'll cause the user too much grief. Best of luck. Cheers, Andrew "Netsnipe" Lau -- --- Andre

Re: Bug#219582: ITP: linux -- Linux 2.4 kernel

2003-11-10 Thread Andrew Suffield
g more indicative of total inexperience than "it works fine". -- .''`. ** Debian GNU/Linux ** | Andrew Suffield : :' : http://www.debian.org/ | `. `' | `- -><- | signature.asc Description: Digital signature

Re: Bug#219582: ITP: linux -- Linux 2.4 kernel

2003-11-10 Thread Andrew Suffield
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Re: Bug#219582: ITP: linux -- Linux 2.4 kernel

2003-11-10 Thread Andrew Suffield
many software programs called "linux" are around? Dozens. Lots of people have created variations on the theme of "linux". You're not even talking about packaging the one released from kernel.org, you're talking about creating your own fork (vis. patches to make it wo

Why you are wrong [Was: On linux kernel packaging issue]

2003-11-10 Thread Andrew Suffield
d considerable *empirical proof* that it's wrong (disproving statements like "Y is true for all X" is easy; proving them is hard). So don't whine about people "refusing to accept" it. -- .''`. ** Debian GNU/Linux ** | Andrew Suffield : :' : http://www.debian.org/ | `. `' | `- -><- | signature.asc Description: Digital signature

Re: possible compromise for ITP: linux?

2003-11-10 Thread Andrew Suffield
latter prohibits it from being in a Debian release. The former should keep it out of the archive entirely. -- .''`. ** Debian GNU/Linux ** | Andrew Suffield : :' : http://www.debian.org/ | `. `' | `- -><- | signature.asc Description: Digital signature

Re: using freedesktop.org libs

2003-11-10 Thread Andrew Suffield
n future, it took me barely five minutes to note all this stuff and write this mail. -- .''`. ** Debian GNU/Linux ** | Andrew Suffield : :' : http://www.debian.org/ | `. `' | `- -><- | signature.asc Description: Digital signature

Re: Why you are wrong [Was: On linux kernel packaging issue]

2003-11-11 Thread Andrew Suffield
's not an optimisation. Mmm. -ffast-math and -funsafe-math-optimizations, off the top of my head. -- .''`. ** Debian GNU/Linux ** | Andrew Suffield : :' : http://www.debian.org/ | `. `' | `- -><- | signature.asc Description: Digital signature

Re: Why you are wrong [Was: On linux kernel packaging issue]

2003-11-11 Thread Andrew Suffield
On Tue, Nov 11, 2003 at 10:19:58AM +, Will Newton wrote: > On Monday 10 Nov 2003 19:54, Andrew Suffield wrote: > > > We refuse to accept it blindly because it's wrong. There have been > > cases when architecture-specific optimisations have made programs run &

Re: using freedesktop.org libs

2003-11-11 Thread Andrew Suffield
why are you so eager to use things which they say aren't ready for release, if you trust their skills so much? -- .''`. ** Debian GNU/Linux ** | Andrew Suffield : :' : http://www.debian.org/ | `. `' | `- -><- | signature.asc Description: Digital signature

Re: Bug#219582: ITP: linux -- Linux 2.4 kernel

2003-11-11 Thread Andrew Suffield
te is confusion. -- .''`. ** Debian GNU/Linux ** | Andrew Suffield : :' : http://www.debian.org/ | `. `' | `- -><- | signature.asc Description: Digital signature

Re: Bug#219582: ITP: linux -- Linux 2.4 kernel

2003-11-11 Thread Andrew Suffield
em now or after the next reboot?". Debconf is not an alternative to fixing the problem. Such questions are still unacceptable bugs. Note that the current kernel packages don't break your system before *or* after rebooting. -- .''`. ** Debian GNU/Linux ** | Andrew Suffield : :' : http://www.debian.org/ | `. `' | `- -><- | signature.asc Description: Digital signature

Re: Bug#219582: ITP: linux -- Linux 2.4 kernel

2003-11-11 Thread Andrew Suffield
On Tue, Nov 11, 2003 at 12:45:31PM +0100, Robert Millan wrote: > On Mon, Nov 10, 2003 at 07:25:41PM +0000, Andrew Suffield wrote: > > On Sun, Nov 09, 2003 at 08:17:58PM +0100, Robert Millan wrote: > > > - I'm not trying to make a package, the package is already m

Re: Bug#219582: ITP: linux -- Linux 2.4 kernel

2003-11-11 Thread Andrew Suffield
On Tue, Nov 11, 2003 at 02:47:14PM +0100, Robert Millan wrote: > However, > for the matter of finding out wether there will be much people in that > userbase, there's the Popularity Contest. Some people just never learn. -- .''`. ** Debian GNU/Linux ** | Andre

Re: Closing. (Was: Re: Bug#219582: ITP: linux -- Linux 2.4 kernel)

2003-11-12 Thread Andrew Suffield
On Thu, Nov 13, 2003 at 12:23:44AM +1100, Zenaan Harkness wrote: > I > for one _would_ appreciate having a debian-standard linux package. kernel-source-*, kernel-image-*, kernel-headers-* -- .''`. ** Debian GNU/Linux ** | Andrew Suffield : :' :

Bug#220602: ITP: configure-thinkpad -- IBM ThinkPad configuration tool for GNOME

2003-11-13 Thread Andrew Lau
Linux espresso 2.4.23-pre9 #1 Mon Nov 10 16:37:06 EST 2003 i686 Locale: LANG=en_AU.UTF-8, LC_CTYPE=en_AU.UTF-8 -- --- Andrew "Netsnipe" LauComputer Sci. UNSW & Debian GNU/Linux GnuPG 1024D/2

Anyone know anything about 3dwm?

2003-11-14 Thread Andrew Pollock
ght now. I was wondering if anyone here is actually using the software and might be able to help me with decent descriptions for: libpolhem-dev libnobel-dev libzorn-dev libcelsius-dev libsolid-dev libgarbo-dev 3dwm-geoclient 3dwm-pickclient 3dwm-server Thanks, Andrew signature.asc Descriptio

Re: ftpmaster accepts packages that have been rejected a few days ago

2003-11-14 Thread Andrew Suffield
don't have much of a problem with these people joining *because* our process is the way it is. It is flawed to suggest that this means we wouldn't have one if it were easier. -- .''`. ** Debian GNU/Linux ** | Andre

Re: ftpmaster accepts packages that have been rejected a few days ago

2003-11-14 Thread Andrew Suffield
ed if there weren't any people objecting to the DAM. That would indicate he's letting people get away with too much. This means it's useless as a measure of problems. So, I find both your argument and your interpretation of its c

Re: Some observations regardig the progress towards Debian 3.1

2003-11-15 Thread Andrew Suffield
ou acquired this impression. I'd say quite the opposite, on all points. -- .''`. ** Debian GNU/Linux ** | Andrew Suffield : :' : http://www.debian.org/ | `. `' | `- -><- | signature.asc Description: Digital signature

Re: Anyone know anything about 3dwm?

2003-11-15 Thread Andrew Pollock
On Sat, Nov 15, 2003 at 10:03:42AM -0600, Steve Greenland wrote: > On 14-Nov-03, 19:52 (CST), Sam Hocevar <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: > > On Sat, Nov 15, 2003, Andrew Pollock wrote: > > > > > I'm trying to prepare a QA upload of the 3dwm source package, and clo

Is vrms really still a Virtual Richard M. Stallman?

2003-11-16 Thread Andrew Lau
for a name change before the real RMS decides to sue us for misrepresenting him! = ) vbranden? vdlegal? Nominations are now open. Cheers, Andrew "Netsnipe" Lau -- ------- Andrew "Netsnipe" LauC

Re: Is vrms really still a Virtual Richard M. Stallman?

2003-11-17 Thread Andrew Lau
On Mon, Nov 17, 2003 at 02:14:53PM +1100, Andrew Lau wrote: > against his packages which uses a license his real self would approve. against packages which use a license his real self would approve. -- --- And

Re: Some observations regardig the progress towards Debian 3.1

2003-11-19 Thread Andrew Suffield
On Tue, Nov 18, 2003 at 10:15:25AM -0600, John Goerzen wrote: > On Sat, Nov 15, 2003 at 05:35:19PM +0000, Andrew Suffield wrote: > > On Sat, Nov 15, 2003 at 05:42:20PM +0100, Adrian Bunk wrote: > > > - Debian 3.0 doesn't support much of the hardware curently available -

Re: Some observations regardig the progress towards Debian 3.1

2003-11-19 Thread Andrew Suffield
ing real test suites for them all would be more of a Herculean task. > GUI programs are another story, but that's not a reason not to do it > for non-GUI ones. Right. It's a reason not to do any of it (test suites, or the building/migration goo) for GUI programs. -- .'&#x

Re: First pass all buildds before entering unstable

2003-11-19 Thread Andrew Suffield
of what this would accomplish, I have a few guesses about what you might be trying to do, and I think there are probably less intrusive and more effective approaches]. -- .''`. ** Debian GNU/Linux ** | Andrew Suffield : :' : http://www.debian.org/ | `. `'

Re: First pass all buildds before entering unstable

2003-11-19 Thread Andrew Suffield
On Wed, Nov 19, 2003 at 03:12:42PM +0100, Andreas Tille wrote: > On Wed, 19 Nov 2003, Andrew Suffield wrote: > > > This seems like a solution in search of a problem. What problem are > > you actually trying to solve? Start by describing it, then we can try > > dreaming up

Re: Bug#221709: ITP: at76c503a-source -- at76c503a driver source

2003-11-20 Thread Andrew Suffield
> Possibly not, but I think a case could be made that Debian's users do. > (You know, that other priority, the one that isn't Free Software...) ...the one that is no more important than free software. -- .''`. ** Debian GNU/Linux ** | Andrew Suffield : :' :

Re: apt-rpm article -- the features we don't have

2003-12-02 Thread Andrew Pollock
0-13498cl.i386.rpm > > couldn't this just refer to dpkg --install ? But that won't satisfy any dependencies that the package you're installing has. > > Similarly, to check the build depends of a source package file: > > apt-get build-dep apt-listchanges-1.49-11104cl.src.rpm > > similarly...? See above. regards Andrew

Re: Source only uploads? -- Survey evaluation

2003-12-02 Thread Andrew Suffield
On Mon, Dec 01, 2003 at 10:09:34PM +0100, Roland Stigge wrote: > Finally, the "decision" isn't just "technical". Ah, the inevitable cry of the advocate of the technically inferior approach. -- .''`. ** Debian GNU/Linux ** | Andrew S

Re: Backport of the integer overflow in the brk system call

2003-12-02 Thread Andrew Pollock
ious flaw with it... Andrew

Re: Backport of the integer overflow in the brk system call

2003-12-02 Thread Andrew Pollock
le version that incorporates that fix. Andrew

Re: Debian packages and freedesktop.org (Gnome, KDE, etc) menu entries

2003-12-04 Thread Andrew Suffield
sktop files" here and your argument would still be about as valid. -- .''`. ** Debian GNU/Linux ** | Andrew Suffield : :' : http://www.debian.org/ | `. `' | `- -><- | signature.asc Description: Digital signature

Re: Debian packages and freedesktop.org (Gnome, KDE, etc) menu entries

2003-12-04 Thread Andrew Suffield
On Thu, Dec 04, 2003 at 09:01:27PM +0800, Cameron Patrick wrote: > On Thu, Dec 04, 2003 at 12:19:28PM +0000, Andrew Suffield wrote: > | On Thu, Dec 04, 2003 at 12:34:22AM +0100, Raphael Goulais wrote: > | > On Wednesday 03 December 2003 21:31, Zenaan Harkness wrote: > | > >

Re: Re: Debian packages and freedesktop.org (Gnome, KDE, etc) menu entries

2003-12-04 Thread Andrew Suffield
On Thu, Dec 04, 2003 at 03:44:56PM -0500, Nathanael Nerode wrote: > Andrew Suffield wrote: > >That wasn't his argument. However, it's similar, and the response is > >the same: why not simply add these features to the Debian menu system? > > Why be gratuitously

Re: Re: Debian packages and freedesktop.org (Gnome, KDE, etc) menu entries

2003-12-04 Thread Andrew Suffield
Sort of, but... > In fact, it looks like it's been implemented twice, once for KDE and > once for GNOME. (Is there any reason why the .desktop files aren't being > shared between the two DE's? It also appears to me that KDE is doing a > margina

Re: Debian packages and freedesktop.org (Gnome, KDE, etc) menu entries

2003-12-04 Thread Andrew Suffield
On Thu, Dec 04, 2003 at 05:27:50PM -0600, Billy Biggs wrote: > Andrew Suffield ([EMAIL PROTECTED]): > > > > Are there any technical complaints about it? (Apart from "I don't > > > like the .desktop extension", which I consider unimportant.) > > >

Backporting 2.4.23 kernel packages

2003-12-04 Thread Andrew Pollock
is there more black magic involved with kernel packages? Thanks Andrew signature.asc Description: Digital signature

Re: Backporting 2.4.23 kernel packages

2003-12-05 Thread Andrew Pollock
On Fri, Dec 05, 2003 at 05:59:40PM +1100, Russell Coker wrote: > On Fri, 5 Dec 2003 16:41, Andrew Pollock <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: > > So, I was wondering how to go about taking the source package for > > 2.4.23-686 (and the SMP version) and backport them to stable? &g

Re: Re: Debian packages and freedesktop.org (Gnome, KDE, etc) menu entries

2003-12-05 Thread Andrew Suffield
retty simple to implement - just more text fields. That way we support the upstream menu entries in everything, not just kde and gnome. -- .''`. ** Debian GNU/Linux ** | Andrew Suffield : :' : http://www.debian.org/ | `. `' | `- -><- | signature.asc Description: Digital signature

Re: Debian packages and freedesktop.org (Gnome, KDE, etc) menu entries

2003-12-05 Thread Andrew Suffield
> "*must* provide a .desktop file rather than the old > Debian-specific menu format". > > Stem 5: Compatibility code for the old format in the menu > infrastructure will be kept until it gets too much of a burden > to maintain it. S

Re: Backporting 2.4.23 kernel packages

2003-12-05 Thread Andrew Pollock
On Fri, Dec 05, 2003 at 11:08:53PM +1100, Russell Coker wrote: > > I presume I can lower the dependencies on things like modutils and whatnot > > down to the versions that are in stable with no ill-effects? > > It only depends on coreutils|fileutils, so there's no problems in that regard. What a

Re: Backporting 2.4.23 kernel packages

2003-12-06 Thread Andrew Pollock
On Sat, Dec 06, 2003 at 05:11:50PM +1100, Russell Coker wrote: > On Sat, 6 Dec 2003 08:35, Andrew Pollock <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: > > On Fri, Dec 05, 2003 at 11:08:53PM +1100, Russell Coker wrote: > > > > I presume I can lower the dependencies on things like modutils

Re: Re: Debian packages and freedesktop.org (Gnome, KDE, etc) menu entries

2003-12-08 Thread Andrew Suffield
ase of kde/gnome, that would be a .desktop file; for everything else, yes, the data is thrown away. Nothing else supports those features, and this is again not our problem. -- .''`. ** Debian GNU/Linux ** | Andrew Suffield : :' : http://www.debian.org/ | `. `' | `- -><- | signature.asc Description: Digital signature

Re: password setting via db.debian.org working?

2003-12-09 Thread Andrew Suffield
serdir-ldap addresses if I send using mutt, not mail(1). I can't figure out what the significant headers are - afaict, the interesting ones are the same. Helpfully, changes@ can only parse mails I send with mail(1), not those I send with mutt, so I have to do it blind. -- .''`

Re: Re: Debian packages and freedesktop.org (Gnome, KDE, etc) menu entries

2003-12-09 Thread Andrew Suffield
On Tue, Dec 09, 2003 at 02:06:48PM +0100, Moritz Moeller-Herrmann wrote: > Andrew Suffield wrote: > > > On Tue, Dec 09, 2003 at 02:51:53AM +0100, Moritz Moeller-Herrmann wrote: > > >> You do realize that the desktop standard has more features than the > >> de

Re: Debian packages and freedesktop.org (Gnome, KDE, etc) menu entries

2003-12-09 Thread Andrew Suffield
On Tue, Dec 09, 2003 at 01:57:29PM +, Henning Makholm wrote: > Scripsit Andrew Suffield <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> > > On Tue, Dec 09, 2003 at 02:51:53AM +0100, Moritz Moeller-Herrmann wrote: > > > > You do realize that the desktop standard has more features than the deb

Re: Re: Debian packages and freedesktop.org (Gnome, KDE, etc) menu entries

2003-12-09 Thread Andrew Suffield
On Tue, Dec 09, 2003 at 09:49:54AM -0600, Billy Biggs wrote: > Andrew Suffield ([EMAIL PROTECTED]): > > > It's "pass a few more text fields through to the menu methods, and use > > them to generate .desktop files" versus "rewrite everything". > >

Re: Debian packages and freedesktop.org (Gnome, KDE, etc) menu entries

2003-12-10 Thread Andrew Suffield
On Wed, Dec 10, 2003 at 11:47:28AM +0800, Cameron Patrick wrote: > On Tue, Dec 09, 2003 at 09:49:25PM +0000, Andrew Suffield wrote: > > | Alternate approaches (that involve significantly less work) > > That's the bit that I (and presumably others) am not convinced about. &g

Re: Re: Debian packages and freedesktop.org (Gnome, KDE, etc) menu entries

2003-12-10 Thread Andrew Suffield
On Tue, Dec 09, 2003 at 05:18:21PM -0600, Billy Biggs wrote: > Andrew Suffield ([EMAIL PROTECTED]): > > > On Tue, Dec 09, 2003 at 09:49:54AM -0600, Billy Biggs wrote: > > > Andrew Suffield ([EMAIL PROTECTED]): > > > > > > > It's "pass a f

Re: Debian packages and freedesktop.org (Gnome, KDE, etc) menu entries

2003-12-11 Thread Andrew Suffield
On Wed, Dec 10, 2003 at 10:29:24PM -0800, Marc Wilson wrote: > On Wed, Dec 10, 2003 at 12:31:17PM +0000, Andrew Suffield wrote: > > We don't have to map them onto anything. We just have to pass them > > through to the menu methods in a fashion that allows them to generat

Re: Re: Debian packages and freedesktop.org (Gnome, KDE, etc) menu entries

2003-12-12 Thread Andrew Suffield
or Gnome. YOU HAVE TO PROVIDE A DESKTOP FILE IF YOU WANT > A DECENT MENU. FUD. -- .''`. ** Debian GNU/Linux ** | Andrew Suffield : :' : http://www.debian.org/ | `. `' | `- -><- | signature.asc Description: Digital signature

Re: APT-Fu 0.2.3

2003-12-12 Thread Andrew Suffield
n (generally used when you aren't being very serious). I don't think it's a very good idea to use in this context. -- .''`. ** Debian GNU/Linux ** | Andrew Suffield : :' : http://www.debian.org/ | `. `' | `- -><- | signature.asc Description: Digital signature

Re: Debian packages and freedesktop.org (Gnome, KDE, etc) menu entries

2003-12-12 Thread Andrew Suffield
On Thu, Dec 11, 2003 at 10:01:39PM -0800, Marc Wilson wrote: > On Thu, Dec 11, 2003 at 09:08:38PM +0000, Andrew Suffield wrote: > > On Wed, Dec 10, 2003 at 10:29:24PM -0800, Marc Wilson wrote: > > > On Wed, Dec 10, 2003 at 12:31:17PM +, Andrew Suffield wrote: > > >

Re: Proposed change to debian release system

2003-12-13 Thread Andrew Pollock
in as much depth as I'd have liked to have before floating it, but I felt the original email was a good catalyst for getting it out there... Andrew

Re: How to depend on Japanese fonts?

2003-12-14 Thread Andrew Suffield
ations. X does *not* require that fonts be installed on the same host as the client application, nor can it use them if they are. Fonts must rather be installed on the host where the font server runs, which is probably the one where the X server runs. -- .''`. ** Debian GNU/Linux ** |

Re: How to depend on Japanese fonts?

2003-12-15 Thread Andrew Suffield
talled in > the file system visible to the application, not on a server someplace. > This is the Xft2/fontconfig stuff deploying. I am so glad I don't use xft2 for anything. -- .''`. ** Debian GNU/Linux ** | Andre

Re: Generating ~/.ssh/known_hosts from LDAP

2003-12-16 Thread Andrew Suffield
an be written considerably shorter if you don't make making it ugly. If you feel like doing so, please do something worthwhile instead) (MIT/X11 license) -- .''`. ** Debian GNU/Linux ** | Andrew Suffield : :' : http://www.debian.org/ | `. `' |

Re: installing TCP programs when RPC programs are running

2004-10-07 Thread Andrew Suffield
ou pick, odds are high that *something* uses it as a fixed port number, so sooner or later it'll break for somebody. The proper approach would have been for sunrpc to carve out a few ports exclusively for its own use, but it's a bit late for that now. -- .

Re: RFC: best practice creating database

2004-10-08 Thread Andrew Pollock
rorprune but still something > achievable in a postinst script. Methinks we need something like wwwconfig-common, but for databases... regards Andrew

Re: ITP: cdplayer.app -- Small audio CD player for GNUstep

2004-10-08 Thread Andrew Suffield
s on his asbestos suit) > > Please rename "planner" to "gnome-planner" immediately. > Please rename "netspeed" to "gnome-netspeed" immediately. This is not the appropriate place to be filing bugs;

Re: discover or alsa?

2004-10-17 Thread Andrew Pollock
for my > > soundcard. > > likewise for me. i've found that after a fresh debian install, one of > the first things i have to do is add a bunch of modules to hotplug's > blacklist. > Ditto, which is what pisses me off about hotplug. It seems far more indiscriminate in its

Re: Maintenance of User-Mode Linux packages

2004-10-19 Thread Andrew Pollock
ed to use that, rather than its current special-case code. I'd potentially like to help, possibly along with a friend who is a UML user, but not a DD. I'll have a lot more spare time in about a month, so could potentially make a concerted effort to get things ship-shape. regards A

Re: Are libtool .la files in non-dev library packages bugs?

2002-08-20 Thread Andrew Suffield
ed features have been used and libtool was instructed to link statically. I can't think of any sane reason why you would do that on Debian. (Other reasons? I can't think of any) -- .''`. ** Debian GNU/Linux ** | Andrew Suffield : :' : http://www.debian.org/ | Dep

Re: Are libtool .la files in non-dev library packages bugs?

2002-08-20 Thread Andrew Suffield
lt_dlopen() looks for the exact file you specify. lt_dlopenext() looks first for .la, then for whatever the local system conventionally uses (.so on gnu platforms). Both are quite capable of operating on the .so directly, as long as you don't use some of the more arcane features (d

Re: Are libtool .la files in non-dev library packages bugs?

2002-08-20 Thread Andrew Suffield
nces welcome). -- .''`. ** Debian GNU/Linux ** | Andrew Suffield : :' : http://www.debian.org/ | Dept. of Computing, `. `' | Imperial College, `- -><- | London, UK pgp6lyX23uthH.pgp Description: PGP signature

"Bug of the month", or how to get people fixing bugs

2002-08-29 Thread Andrew Suffield
;ll write the formal rules and set up the scripts. If you have ideas for a better name, send them to [EMAIL PROTECTED] [Kudos to Richard Braakman for coming up with the idea and helping sketch out most of the details] -- .''`. ** Debian GNU/Linux ** | Andrew Suffield : :' :

Re: RFC: Handling of certificates in Debian

2002-08-30 Thread Andrew McDonald
ad "SSL/TLS support" added, but don't do any hostname checking against the certificate - leaving you open to man-in-the-middle attacks. Andrew -- Andrew McDonald E-mail: [EMAIL PROTECTED] http://www.mcdonald.org.uk/andrew/

Re: RFC: Handling of certificates in Debian

2002-08-30 Thread Andrew McDonald
On Fri, Aug 30, 2002 at 02:57:12PM -0700, Neil Spring wrote: > On Fri, Aug 30, 2002 at 06:58:00PM +0100, Andrew McDonald wrote: > > On a similar subject, there seem to be more than a few applications > > that have had "SSL/TLS support" added, but don't do any hos

Re: Improper NMU (Re: NMU for libquota-perl)

2002-09-02 Thread Andrew Suffield
dy if they don't fix it first - as long as either somebody fixes it, or nobody cares, why does it matter? -- .''`. ** Debian GNU/Linux ** | Andrew Suffield : :' : http://www.debian.org/ | Dept. of Computing, `. `' | Imperial College, `- -><- | London, UK pgpbmRjrFdgxe.pgp Description: PGP signature

Re: Improper NMU (Re: NMU for libquota-perl)

2002-09-02 Thread Andrew Suffield
s (AIUI) to allow this kind of upload, where the maintainer has advance notification and a chance of override it, but if they don't then the new package will go into the pool. -- .''`. ** Debian GNU/Linux ** | Andrew Suffield : :' : http://www.debian.org/ | Dept. of Computing, `. `' | Imperial College, `- -><- | London, UK pgpZRaydU8uZy.pgp Description: PGP signature

Re: RFC: Handling of certificates in Debian

2002-09-02 Thread Andrew McDonald
//www.ietf.org/internet-drafts/draft-ietf-tls-extensions-05.txt> Or, using a "TLS upgrade" procedure as in RFC2817 where the server name can be specified in a Host: header before the TLS handshake is started. For other protocols, e.g. IMAP and SMTP, the STARTTLS method is used to do som

Re: Improper NMU (Re: NMU for libquota-perl)

2002-09-03 Thread Andrew Suffield
dvice, and telling people what to spend their time on. There may be valid reasons for not making NMUs in these circumstances, but this is not one of them. -- .''`. ** Debian GNU/Linux ** | Andrew Suffield : :' : http://www.debian.org/ | Dept. of Computing, `. `

Re: Dependencies on -dev packages

2002-09-03 Thread Andrew Suffield
asonably be met with a Recommends: or Suggests: Recommends and Suggests are not considered when installing build-dependencies. -- .''`. ** Debian GNU/Linux ** | Andrew Suffield : :' : http://www.debian.org/ | Dept. of Computing, `. `' | Imperial College

Re: Are we losing users to Gentoo?

2002-11-22 Thread Andrew Suffield
On Thu, Nov 21, 2002 at 08:40:55PM -0800, Jim Lynch wrote: > > On Wed, Nov 20, 2002 at 11:02:40AM +, Andrew Suffield wrote: > > >> On Wed, Nov 20, 2002 at 08:50:32PM +1100, Andrew Lau wrote: > > >>> > The question I want to pose today is &quo

Re: VNC plans.

2002-11-22 Thread Andrew Suffield
I get it to work at all. Then no, you don't. It was probably a mistake to ever attempt to codify the list of virtual packages in policy. Agreement amoung the people involved is sufficient. -- .''`. ** Debian GNU/Linux ** | Andrew Suffield : :' : http://www.d

Re: Are we losing users to Gentoo?

2002-11-22 Thread Andrew Suffield
cifically about the effects of changing context. > The fact I posted that Andrew Lau should see someone about > his disturbances comes about because of prior experience > with that particular person, and seeing that he seems to > like stirring things up and watching the result. He's d

New maintainer process

2002-11-22 Thread Andrew Pollock
Hi, Since satie.d.o has been destroyed, where does this leave the NM process? Andrew

Sponsor required: Film Gimp 0.8a-3

2002-11-22 Thread Andrew Lau
filmgimp-dev_0.8a-3_i386.deb 68K libfilmgimp_0.8a-3_i386.deb Thanks in advance, Andrew "Netsnipe" Lau - Forwarded message from Andrew Lau <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> - From: Andrew Lau <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> To: [EMAIL PROTECTED] Subject: Official Film Gimp 0.8a-3 packages f

Re: New maintainer process

2002-11-22 Thread Andrew Lau
On Fri, Nov 22, 2002 at 09:52:13PM +1000, Andrew Pollock wrote: > Since satie.d.o has been destroyed, where does this leave the NM > process? The real question is, will anything change in NM for those who've already waited over 6 months for DAM approval. = P 11 and still countin

Bug#170400: ITP: tsclient -- Terminal Server Client - GNOME 2 rdesktop frontend

2002-11-23 Thread Andrew Lau
re: i386 Kernel: Linux espresso 2.4.19 #1 Tue Nov 12 23:32:34 EST 2002 i686 Locale: LANG=C, LC_CTYPE=C -- --- * Andrew 'Netsnipe' Lau Computer Science & Sturep, UNSW * * "apt-get into it

Re: Are we losing users to Gentoo?

2002-11-23 Thread Andrew Suffield
s a memory-to-framebuffer-throughput-bound operation, not a CPU-bound one (unless your processor is really slow and your resolution is absurdly high). -- .''`. ** Debian GNU/Linux ** | Andrew Suffield : :' : http://www.debian.org/ | Dept. of Computing, `. `'

Need access to an Alpha

2002-11-24 Thread Andrew Pollock
ve me temporary access to? I'd like to troubleshoot this problem quickly, rather than rolling a new package, waiting for sponsor to upload it and then seeing what the Alpha buildd does with it, rinsing and repeating. Thanks Andrew pgpfJEIkGas5b.pgp Description: PGP signature

Re: Are we losing users to Gentoo?

2002-11-25 Thread Andrew Lau
On Fri, Nov 22, 2002 at 02:20:04AM -0800, Jim Lynch wrote: > The fact I posted that Andrew Lau should see someone about his > disturbances comes about because of prior experience with that > particular person, and seeing that he seems to like stirring things > up and watching the resul

Re: Are we losing users to Gentoo?

2002-11-25 Thread Andrew Lau
ow. If we were to improve our current user-build mechanisms, would it be feasible for Debian source packages or a mirror to keep track of what flags are known to break what packages on what $ARCHs? It'd cer

Re: DAM approval wait time?

2002-11-27 Thread Andrew Lau
ome a developer left NM with the question of what you intended to > do crossed with what you had the skills to do. Perusing your entry > in NM, you have passed the skills test. Congrats. But my question > still stands... > On Sat, 26 Oct 2002 15:08:29 +1000 Andrew Lau > <

Re: DAM approval wait time?

2002-11-27 Thread Andrew Lau
ort. You have some nerve there Jim flaunting your arrogance like that. I have tried to reply to you in a rational and polite manner, but I have come to the conclusion that no matter what I say or do, you will continue t

Dummy packages for feature dependencies

2002-11-28 Thread Andrew Chadwick
point: mutt's IMAPS capability depends on a specific version of libgnutls5 being present, or it complains about a missing symbol and hides your mail from you when you try to access a mailbox starting with "imaps://". Regards, -- Andrew Chadwick pgpquDqeDU20I.pgp Description: PGP signature

Bug#171116: ITP: tsclient -- GNOME2 frontend for rdesktop

2002-11-28 Thread Andrew Lau
Package: wnpp Version: N/A; reported 2002-11-29 Severity: wishlist * Package name: tsclient Version : 0.56 Upstream Author : Erick Woods <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> * URL : http://www.gnomepro.com/tsclient/ * License : GPL Description : GNOME2 frontend for rdeskto

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