Re: Wine MinGW system libraries

2021-09-12 Thread Adrian Bunk
On Sun, Sep 05, 2021 at 08:53:49AM +0200, Bastien ROUCARIES wrote: >... > Improve dpkg to support partial arch. I volonteer to implement none arch > but i am waiting from guillem here. >... There is also plenty of infrastructure on the buildd, archive and release team sides that would likely need

Re: Wine MinGW system libraries

2021-09-12 Thread Adrian Bunk
On Sun, Sep 12, 2021 at 01:18:11PM +, Bastien ROUCARIES wrote: > Le dim. 12 sept. 2021 à 07:38, Adrian Bunk a écrit : > > > > On Sun, Sep 05, 2021 at 08:53:49AM +0200, Bastien ROUCARIES wrote: > > >... > > > Improve dpkg to support partial arch. I volonteer t

Re: Wine MinGW system libraries

2021-09-12 Thread Adrian Bunk
On Sun, Sep 12, 2021 at 01:57:44PM +, Bastien ROUCARIES wrote: > > I think you misunderstand: > https://wiki.debian.org/Teams/Dpkg/Spec/FreestandingArches > > They are a full color gradiant between: > - freestanding arches pure cross compile without any depends except arch:all > - partial cro

Re: Wine MinGW system libraries

2021-09-12 Thread Adrian Bunk
On Sun, Sep 12, 2021 at 02:57:20PM +, Bastien ROUCARIES wrote: > Le dim. 12 sept. 2021 à 14:16, Adrian Bunk a écrit : > > > > On Sun, Sep 12, 2021 at 01:57:44PM +, Bastien ROUCARIES wrote: > > > > > > I think you misunderstand: > > &g

Re: Wine MinGW system libraries

2021-09-12 Thread Adrian Bunk
On Sun, Sep 12, 2021 at 05:31:41PM +0200, Stephen Kitt wrote: >... > While one could imagine adding support to all the appropriate > source packages to build similar “Architecture: all” packages, that would > require convincing all the relevant maintainers, Adding a new release architecture (parti

Re: Finding rough consensus on level of vendoring for large upstreams

2021-09-12 Thread Adrian Bunk
On Thu, Sep 02, 2021 at 11:38:35PM +0100, Phil Morrell wrote: >... > 4. When 2 or 3 are too onerous to maintain, the package MAY use the >convenience copy but MUST document why in README.source and SHOULD be >included in the [security-tracker]. >... The package MUST be listed as being wi

Re: Wine MinGW system libraries

2021-09-12 Thread Adrian Bunk
On Sun, Sep 12, 2021 at 07:03:54PM +0200, Stephen Kitt wrote: > On Sun, 12 Sep 2021 19:20:16 +0300, Adrian Bunk wrote: > > On Sun, Sep 12, 2021 at 05:31:41PM +0200, Stephen Kitt wrote: > > >... > > > While one could imagine adding support to all the appropriate >

Re: Wine MinGW system libraries

2021-09-13 Thread Adrian Bunk
On Mon, Sep 13, 2021 at 08:19:31PM +0200, Stephen Kitt wrote: >... > For Wine (and even a wider MinGW-w64 > ecosystem) we don’t need all that many source packages to be > cross-satisfiable for the whole endeavour to be useful... But you would still need to create and maintain the whole infrastruc

Re: Wine MinGW system libraries

2021-09-13 Thread Adrian Bunk
On Mon, Sep 13, 2021 at 08:38:52PM +, Bastien ROUCARIES wrote: > Le lun. 13 sept. 2021 à 20:24, Adrian Bunk a écrit : > > On Mon, Sep 13, 2021 at 08:19:31PM +0200, Stephen Kitt wrote: >... > > > The regressions are significant though: if packages can’t stay > > >

Re: Require packages to build without any configured DNS

2021-09-14 Thread Adrian Bunk
On Mon, Sep 13, 2021 at 04:05:57PM -0700, Don Armstrong wrote: > On Fri, 10 Sep 2021, Adrian Bunk wrote: > > On Wed, Sep 08, 2021 at 09:01:31AM -0700, Josh Triplett wrote: > > >... > > > I think dnspython's previous approach was correct: just like glibc, musl, >

Re: Bug#996584: (some kind of) transition: add python3.10 as a supported python3 version

2021-11-16 Thread Adrian Bunk
On Tue, Nov 16, 2021 at 02:23:36PM +0100, Matthias Klose wrote: > I'm planning to upload python3-defaults later tonight, adding 3.10 as a > supported Python version. Packages are able to migrate on their own, there > are > no blockages introduced on other transitions. > > We have most packages

Re: Bug#1000000: fixed in phast 1.6+dfsg-2

2021-11-18 Thread Adrian Bunk
On Thu, Nov 18, 2021 at 05:12:10PM +0100, Sebastiaan Couwenberg wrote: >... > For the Debian package you could drop use_debian_packaged_libpcre.patch and > use the embedded copy to not block the prce3 removal in Debian. As a general comment, this would be a lot worse than keeping pcre3. If any co

Re: proposed MBF: packages still using source format 1.0

2022-03-07 Thread Adrian Bunk
On Sun, Mar 06, 2022 at 09:25:45PM +0100, Lucas Nussbaum wrote: >... > I think that we should reduce the number of packages using the 1.0 format, as > (1) format 3.0 has many advantages, as documented in > https://wiki.debian.org/Projects/DebSrc3.0 ; (2) this contributes to > standardization of pac

Re: proposed MBF: packages still using source format 1.0

2022-03-08 Thread Adrian Bunk
On Tue, Mar 08, 2022 at 11:39:04AM +0100, Andreas Tille wrote: > Hi Adrian, Hi Andreas, > Am Mon, Mar 07, 2022 at 11:42:42PM +0200 schrieb Adrian Bunk: >... > > lintian already warns or has info tags that should be upgraded to warning, > > I absolutely agree here. > &g

Re: proposed MBF: packages still using source format 1.0

2022-03-08 Thread Adrian Bunk
On Tue, Mar 08, 2022 at 05:10:44PM +0100, Johannes Schauer Marin Rodrigues wrote: >... > So now we have 364 source packages for which we have a patch and for which we > can show that this patch does not change the build output. Do you agree that > with those two properties, the advantages of the 3

Re: proposed MBF: packages still using source format 1.0

2022-03-08 Thread Adrian Bunk
On Tue, Mar 08, 2022 at 04:45:48PM +0100, Lucas Nussbaum wrote: >... > 1/ the arguments about using patches to track changes to upstream code. > Among the ~600 packages in that potential MBF, there are still many that > make changes to upstream code, which are not properly documented. I > believe t

Re: Seeking consensus for some changes in adduser

2022-03-08 Thread Adrian Bunk
On Tue, Mar 08, 2022 at 05:49:04PM +0100, Marc Haber wrote: >... > (2) > #774046 #520037 > Which special characters should we allow for account names? > > People demand being able to use a dot (which might break scripts using > chown) and non-ASCII national characters in account names. The regex >

Re: proposed MBF: packages still using source format 1.0 [revised proposal]

2022-03-10 Thread Adrian Bunk
On Thu, Mar 10, 2022 at 09:49:50PM +0100, Lucas Nussbaum wrote: >... > For packages in (1.1) and (1.2), I propose to file Severity: wishlist > bugs using the following template: > > -->8 > Subject: please consider upgrading to 3.0 source format >

Re: How to get rid of unused packages (Was: proposed MBF: packages still using source format 1.0)

2022-03-16 Thread Adrian Bunk
The package > was not uploaded by its maintainer for >10 years. It received an NMU by > Adrian Bunk (in CC as well): > > [2022-01-02] imgvtopgm 2.0-9.1 MIGRATED to testing (Debian testing watch) > [2021-12-27] Accepted imgvtopgm 2.0-9.1 (source) into unstable (Adrian Bunk) > [2

Re: isa-support -- exit strategy?

2022-04-03 Thread Adrian Bunk
On Fri, Mar 25, 2022 at 11:34:17PM +0100, Adam Borowski wrote: > Hi! Hi Adam! >... > * while a hard Depends: works for leafy packages, on a library it > disallows having alternate implementations that don't need the > library in question. Eg, libvectorscan5 blocks a program that > uses it

Re: isa-support -- exit strategy?

2022-04-05 Thread Adrian Bunk
On Sun, Apr 03, 2022 at 02:42:18PM +0200, Bastian Blank wrote: > On Sun, Apr 03, 2022 at 02:17:15PM +0300, Adrian Bunk wrote: > > SIMDe (or similar approaches) could be used to build variant(s) of the > > library that have compile-time emulation of SIMD instructions in the >

Re: isa-support -- exit strategy?

2022-04-14 Thread Adrian Bunk
On Wed, Apr 06, 2022 at 01:38:09PM +0200, Adam Borowski wrote: > On Sun, Apr 03, 2022 at 02:17:15PM +0300, Adrian Bunk wrote: > > On Fri, Mar 25, 2022 at 11:34:17PM +0100, Adam Borowski wrote: > > > * while a hard Depends: works for leafy packages, on a library it > &

Re: e17 is marked for autoremoval from testing

2022-04-25 Thread Adrian Bunk
On Mon, Apr 25, 2022 at 02:41:50PM -0700, Ross Vandegrift wrote: > Hello, Hi Ross, > The autoremoval below has me stumped. I couldn't find any > (build-)dependency on freeradius packages. e17 -> connman -> openconnect -> ocserv -> freeradius > Thanks in advance for any hints, > Ross cu Adrian

Re: RFC: pam: dropping support for NIS/NIS+?

2022-05-08 Thread Adrian Bunk
On Fri, Apr 22, 2022 at 01:41:50PM -0700, Steve Langasek wrote: >... > On Fri, Apr 22, 2022 at 10:07:52PM +0200, la...@debian.org wrote: > > I'm using NIS since 20+ years in a small network with about 60 computers. > > Since I manage all computers and the physical network can be seen as secure > >

Re: enabling link time optimizations in package builds

2022-07-01 Thread Adrian Bunk
On Fri, Jun 17, 2022 at 10:18:43AM +0200, Matthias Klose wrote: >... > The proposal is to turn on LTO by default on most 64bit release > architectures. >... By what factor does -ffat-lto-objects increase disk space usage during package builds? Please coordinate with DSA to ensure that the buildd

Re: Bug#1014908: ITP: gender-guesser -- Guess the gender from first name

2022-07-15 Thread Adrian Bunk
On Thu, Jul 14, 2022 at 04:05:35PM +0200, Jeremy Bicha wrote: >... > Debian has a Diversity Statement [1] which says that Debian welcomes > people regardless of how they identify themselves. Trans people and > non-binary people face a lot of discrimination, harrassment and > bullying around the wor

Re: Bug#1014908: ITP: gender-guesser -- Guess the gender from first name

2022-07-16 Thread Adrian Bunk
On Fri, Jul 15, 2022 at 07:10:55PM +, Andrew M.A. Cater wrote: > On Fri, Jul 15, 2022 at 07:05:09PM +0300, Adrian Bunk wrote: >... > > Debian is not a project that fights for trans people or fights for > > denazification or fights for whatever other non-technical top

Bug#1016563: debhelper: Should dh_dwz be dropped?

2022-08-02 Thread Adrian Bunk
Package: debhelper Version: 13.8 Severity: serious X-Debbugs-Cc: debian-devel@lists.debian.org [ debian-devel is in Cc for getting further input. ] dh_dwz is part of the standard sequence in dh since debhelper compat 12. dwz offers small optimizations of debug info, the typical benefit seems to

Re: packages expected to fail on some archs

2022-09-11 Thread Adrian Bunk
On Sun, Sep 11, 2022 at 09:25:40PM +0200, Samuel Thibault wrote: > Paul Gevers, le dim. 11 sept. 2022 21:16:08 +0200, a ecrit: > > > > - color packages that "never" had a successful built on an architecture > > different. That information is already available because that's what marks > > the pack

Re: packages expected to fail on some archs

2022-09-11 Thread Adrian Bunk
On Sun, Sep 11, 2022 at 05:08:57PM +0200, Samuel Thibault wrote: >... > The issue we see is that some DDs end up setting a hardcoded list in > the "Architecture" field, rather than just letting builds keep failing > on these archs (and then possibly succeeding after some time whenever > somebody co

Re: packages expected to fail on some archs

2022-09-13 Thread Adrian Bunk
On Mon, Sep 12, 2022 at 04:08:08PM +0200, Tobias Frost wrote: >... > The problem is that if you want to exclude an arch explicitly, you have to > list all archs you want to build it on. IOW, I'm missing an easy way to say > "not on THIS architecture", somthing like "[!armel]" >... > I don't actual

Re: packages expected to fail on some archs

2022-09-26 Thread Adrian Bunk
On Wed, Sep 14, 2022 at 01:38:01PM +0200, Guillem Jover wrote: >... > [ Mostly to summarize the status re dpkg. ] >... > * Lack of bits/endianness arch "aliases" (#962848). The main problem > with this one is that we cannot simply add such aliases, as then > those would silently be consid

Re: Please, minimize your build chroots

2023-01-27 Thread Adrian Bunk
On Fri, Dec 16, 2022 at 02:15:13AM +0100, Santiago Vila wrote: > Greetings. > > I'm doing archive-wide rebuilds again. > > I've just filed 21 bugs with subject "Missing build-depends on tzdata" > in bookworm (as tzdata is not build-essential). > > This is of course not fun for the maintainers, b

Re: Please, minimize your build chroots

2023-01-28 Thread Adrian Bunk
On Sat, Jan 28, 2023 at 12:20:16AM +0100, Santiago Vila wrote: > El 27/1/23 a las 22:37, Adrian Bunk escribió: > > On Fri, Dec 16, 2022 at 02:15:13AM +0100, Santiago Vila wrote: ... > > I am right now looking at #1027382, and the first question is how I can > > make apt remov

Re: Please, minimize your build chroots

2023-01-28 Thread Adrian Bunk
On Sat, Jan 28, 2023 at 12:24:47PM +0100, Santiago Vila wrote: >... > * Those bugs are RC by definition and have been for a long time. >... Please provide a pointer where a release team member has said so explicitly in recent years. In my experience they are usually saying that FTBFS that do not

Re: Please, minimize your build chroots

2023-01-28 Thread Adrian Bunk
On Sat, Jan 28, 2023 at 02:28:30PM +0100, Johannes Schauer Marin Rodrigues wrote: >... > Why do people call just accepting that Priority:required packages have to be > part of the buildd chroot the easier solution? We just need to fix debootstrap > bug #837060 and we are done, no? This is mostly

Re: Please, minimize your build chroots

2023-01-28 Thread Adrian Bunk
On Sat, Jan 28, 2023 at 03:28:58PM +0100, Johannes Schauer Marin Rodrigues wrote: >... > My proposal is to fix debootstrap #837060 (patch is in the bug report) so that > it only installs Essential:yes, build-essential and apt and discuss if it > makes > sense to have packages like tzdata or e2fsp

Re: Please, minimize your build chroots

2023-01-28 Thread Adrian Bunk
On Sat, Jan 28, 2023 at 07:34:48PM +0100, Guillem Jover wrote: > On Sat, 2023-01-28 at 16:32:17 +0100, Adam Borowski wrote: > > On Sat, Jan 28, 2023 at 01:59:40PM +0100, Santiago Vila wrote: > > > Unsupported by whom? What is supported or unsupported is explained in > > > policy. > > > Policy says

Re: Please, minimize your build chroots

2023-01-28 Thread Adrian Bunk
On Sat, Jan 28, 2023 at 09:45:14PM +0100, Santiago Vila wrote: >... > The other one: There are a bunch of packages whose unit tests rely on tzdata. > The tzdata > package changes often during the lifetime of stable, and as a result, some > package might > stop building from source. If we wanted t

Re: Please, minimize your build chroots

2023-01-28 Thread Adrian Bunk
On Sat, Jan 28, 2023 at 10:23:19PM +0100, Santiago Vila wrote: > El 28/1/23 a las 22:18, Adrian Bunk escribió: > > On Sat, Jan 28, 2023 at 09:45:14PM +0100, Santiago Vila wrote: > > > ... > > > The other one: There are a bunch of packages whose unit tests rely o

Re: Bug#1029911: rust-ureq FTBFS: error: unable to load build system class 'cargo': Can't locate String/ShellQuote.pm

2023-01-28 Thread Adrian Bunk
On Sun, Jan 29, 2023 at 01:33:56AM +0100, Jonas Smedegaard wrote: > Hi, > > Can someone help me understand what is going wrong in Bug#1029911? > > The source package build-depends on libstring-shellquote-perl but it > seems like that build-dependency is not getting installed on the buildd. >...

Re: Please, minimize your build chroots

2023-01-29 Thread Adrian Bunk
On Sun, Jan 29, 2023 at 05:00:56AM +0100, Guillem Jover wrote: > On Sat, 2023-01-28 at 21:35:01 +0200, Adrian Bunk wrote: > > I don't think such arguments are bringing us forward, > > we should rather resolve the problem that these differ. > > > > All/Most(?) p

Re: Consensus on closing old bugs

2023-02-11 Thread Adrian Bunk
On Mon, Feb 06, 2023 at 10:07:59AM -0700, Sam Hartman wrote: >... > Most of us do not prefer to close bugs simply because they are old. It creates angry users and no real benefits. > But closing bugs with a moreinfo tag when information has not been > provided in six months to a year is likely fi

Re: OpenMPI 5.0 to be 32-bit only ?

2023-02-11 Thread Adrian Bunk
On Thu, Feb 09, 2023 at 09:53:37AM +, Alastair McKinstry wrote: > Hi, > > The push-back from upstream is that they're unconvinced anyone is actually > using i386 for MPI. > > For example, MPI is configured to use PMIx but its thought that doesn't work > on 32-bit, but no bugs have been report

Re: Consensus on closing old bugs

2023-02-13 Thread Adrian Bunk
On Mon, Feb 13, 2023 at 10:33:51AM +, Holger Levsen wrote: > On Sat, Feb 11, 2023 at 10:45:16PM +0200, Adrian Bunk wrote: > > On Mon, Feb 06, 2023 at 10:07:59AM -0700, Sam Hartman wrote: > > > Most of us do not prefer to close bugs simply because they are old. > > It cr

Re: OpenMPI 5.0 to be 32-bit only ?

2023-02-13 Thread Adrian Bunk
On Mon, Feb 13, 2023 at 10:59:18AM +, Alastair McKinstry wrote: >... > > The case we should make is that "no one cares about 32-bit builds" from > > the starting post in the GitHub issue is not true for Debian. > > We do care that it *builds*, even if it might not be actually used. > I've been

Re: Consensus on closing old bugs

2023-02-13 Thread Adrian Bunk
On Mon, Feb 13, 2023 at 08:05:50AM -0800, Russ Allbery wrote: >... > So in short I agree with Holger: it really depends. It's rude to ask > someone to do a bunch of work when you have no intention of following > through on that work, which happens a lot when new volunteers do bug > triage without

Re: OpenMPI 5.0 to be 32-bit only ?

2023-02-15 Thread Adrian Bunk
On Tue, Feb 14, 2023 at 04:16:33PM -0800, Steve Langasek wrote: >... > working out which of those reverse-dependencies are > *not* scientific applications that should drop the build-dependency rather > than being removed, and so forth. > > So it's a tradeoff between the maintenance work of keeping

Re: Reducing allowed Vcs for packaging?

2023-02-26 Thread Adrian Bunk
On Sun, Feb 26, 2023 at 02:24:26PM +0100, Bastian Germann wrote: > Hi! > > During the last weeks I had a look at the Vcs situation in Debian. Currently, > there are eight possible systems allowed and one might specify several of > them for > one package. No package makes use of several Vcs refere

Re: Yearless copyrights: what do people think?

2023-02-26 Thread Adrian Bunk
On Wed, Feb 22, 2023 at 07:39:09AM -0700, Sam Hartman wrote: > > As Jonas mentions, including the years allows people to know when works > enter the public domain and the license becomes more liberal. > I think our users are better served by knowing when the Debian packaging > would enter the publ

Re: DEB_BUILD_OPTIONS=nowerror

2023-02-26 Thread Adrian Bunk
On Fri, Feb 24, 2023 at 07:19:41AM +0100, Helmut Grohne wrote: >... > * A package adds -Werror to the build. When a new toolchain version is >uploaded, it triggers a new warning and that makes the package FTBFS. >... > When building affected packages with more recent toolchains, such build > f

Re: Bug#1031548: FTBFS with ruby-jekyll-github-metadata 2.15.0

2023-02-26 Thread Adrian Bunk
On Sun, Feb 26, 2023 at 04:32:59PM +0100, Daniel Leidert wrote: > Am Sonntag, dem 26.02.2023 um 16:57 +0200 schrieb Adrian Bunk: > > On Sun, Feb 26, 2023 at 03:47:49PM +0100, Daniel Leidert wrote: > > > Am Samstag, dem 25.02.2023 um 16:15 +0200 schrieb Adrian Bunk: > > &

Re: Reducing allowed Vcs for packaging?

2023-02-26 Thread Adrian Bunk
On Sun, Feb 26, 2023 at 07:25:57PM +0100, Diederik de Haas wrote: >... > Apart from me not liking proprietary systems in general and M$ GitHub in > particular, you also run the risk of things disappearing entirely without any > notice and without any recourse. Perhaps tomorrow some company like

Re: Bug#1031548: FTBFS with ruby-jekyll-github-metadata 2.15.0

2023-02-26 Thread Adrian Bunk
On Sun, Feb 26, 2023 at 07:09:59PM +0100, Daniel Leidert wrote: > Am Sonntag, dem 26.02.2023 um 19:45 +0200 schrieb Adrian Bunk: > > > [..] > > Debian Policy §4.9 says that *attempting* to access the internet > > is forbidden: > > > >   For packages in the mai

Re: Reducing allowed Vcs for packaging?

2023-02-26 Thread Adrian Bunk
On Sun, Feb 26, 2023 at 09:57:34PM +0100, Diederik de Haas wrote: > On Sunday, 26 February 2023 20:06:26 CET Adrian Bunk wrote: >... > > For anything in Debian, the package sources in Debian would not > > disappear when a repository (or salsa) disappears. > > Question

Re: Reducing allowed Vcs for packaging?

2023-02-26 Thread Adrian Bunk
On Sun, Feb 26, 2023 at 11:42:25PM +0100, Diederik de Haas wrote: >... > The reason that I'm such a proponent of that is that 3 weeks or 3 months from > now, there's a reasonable chance that you (the author/committer) does no > longer remember the details of that commit. > In 3+ years that will b

Re: DEB_BUILD_OPTIONS=nowerror

2023-02-27 Thread Adrian Bunk
On Sun, Feb 26, 2023 at 08:25:25PM +0100, Helmut Grohne wrote: > On Sun, Feb 26, 2023 at 07:15:45PM +0200, Adrian Bunk wrote: > > What you describe is an RC bug as soon as the more recent toolchain > > becomes default, and the correct solution is to not bui

Re: Reducing allowed Vcs for packaging?

2023-03-04 Thread Adrian Bunk
On Wed, Mar 01, 2023 at 05:54:38PM -0700, Sean Whitton wrote: > Hello, Hi Sean, > On Sun 26 Feb 2023 at 11:38PM +02, Adrian Bunk wrote: > > > On Sun, Feb 26, 2023 at 09:57:34PM +0100, Diederik de Haas wrote: > >> On Sunday, 26 February 2023 20:06:26 CET Adrian Bunk w

Re: Reducing allowed Vcs for packaging?

2023-03-05 Thread Adrian Bunk
On Sat, Mar 04, 2023 at 07:43:37PM +, Scott Kitterman wrote: > On March 4, 2023 5:25:35 PM UTC, Adrian Bunk wrote: > >On Wed, Mar 01, 2023 at 05:54:38PM -0700, Sean Whitton wrote: > >> > >> This is a matter of perspective. The fact that dak doesn't store git

Re: Y2038 - best way forward in Debian?

2020-02-16 Thread Adrian Bunk
On Fri, Feb 14, 2020 at 10:56:47AM -0600, John Goerzen wrote: > > The thing that we have to remember is that an operating system is a > platform for running software. This problem is rather thorny, because: > > 1) Some software is provided in only binary form and cannot be > recompiled > > 2) S

Re: DebConf20 registration is now open (with caveats)

2020-05-23 Thread Adrian Bunk
On Thu, May 21, 2020 at 10:44:01PM +0200, Daniel Lange wrote: >... > We do suggest that attendees begin making travel arrangements as soon as > possible, of course. Please bear in mind that most air carriers allow > free cancellations and changes. >... Please bear in mind that this is not true. F

Re: faulty blocked package: e-antic

2020-06-01 Thread Adrian Bunk
On Mon, Jun 01, 2020 at 10:28:48PM +0400, Jerome BENOIT wrote: > Hello, Hi Jerome, > the package e-antic that I maintain is currently blocked in Sid because > it failed to build on the mips64el according to Build status [1]. > However, I could not reproduce the failure on the Debian porter. > How

Re: DEP-14: renaming master to main?

2020-07-07 Thread Adrian Bunk
On Mon, Jun 22, 2020 at 06:45:50PM +0100, Simon McVittie wrote: > > On Mon, 2020-06-22 at 17:50 +0200, Michael Biebl wrote: > > > there has been a lot of talk recently about how master is a loaded term > > > that should be avoided. > > > If I read the news correctly, github and others are going to

Re: help needed to resolve nodejs transition #963039

2020-07-13 Thread Adrian Bunk
On Fri, Jul 03, 2020 at 07:50:55PM +0200, Jérémy Lal wrote: >... > One can install nodejs 10 along with libnode64, and build node-iconv > using libnode-dev 12 which links to libnode72. > > However, running node-iconv tests in the autopkgtests environment requires > the nodejs version that is linke

Re: /usr/bin/tx: transifex-client and afdko shipping binaries under the same name

2020-07-20 Thread Adrian Bunk
On Mon, Jul 20, 2020 at 03:05:26AM +, Paul Wise wrote: > On Mon, Jul 20, 2020 at 1:40 AM Yao Wei wrote: > > > There's a serious bug when I am uploading afdko package, that one of the > > binaries in this package "tx" has name conflicting with > > transifex-client. > > As transifex-client is c

Re: /usr/bin/tx: transifex-client and afdko shipping binaries under the same name

2020-07-20 Thread Adrian Bunk
On Mon, Jul 20, 2020 at 09:35:35AM +0800, Yao Wei wrote: >... > I am currently considering doing it by moving all binaries of afdko from > /usr/bin to /usr/bin/afdko, and then creating another package > afdko-legacy, that, similar to node-legacy before node changed the name > to ax25-node, symlinks

Re: /usr/bin/tx: transifex-client and afdko shipping binaries under the same name

2020-07-20 Thread Adrian Bunk
On Mon, Jul 20, 2020 at 11:52:15PM +, Paul Wise wrote: > On Mon, Jul 20, 2020 at 6:48 PM Adrian Bunk wrote: >... > > If we start allowing conflicts between completely unrelated packages > > it might not end well in the long run. > > We already have had situation

Re: C++ symbols files (Re: GCC 10 transition)

2020-07-29 Thread Adrian Bunk
On Tue, Jul 28, 2020 at 12:41:42PM +0200, Matthias Klose wrote: >... > Suggested ways to solve these issues: > > - Use plain shlibs files, without using symbols files, although >debhelper wrongly warns about missing symbols files. Usually this is the better option for C++ libraries, for more

Re: Build-Depends-If-Available

2020-08-09 Thread Adrian Bunk
On Sun, Aug 09, 2020 at 03:22:20PM +0100, Barak A. Pearlmutter wrote: > I'm maintaining mlpack. It is able to generate julia bindings, so on > architectures in which julia is available I'd like to generate julia > bindings, and this requires julia to be installed at build time. I've > set up debian

Re: Build-Depends-If-Available

2020-08-09 Thread Adrian Bunk
On Sun, Aug 09, 2020 at 06:28:50PM +0100, Barak A. Pearlmutter wrote: >... > "Build-Depends-If-Available: foo" as "Build-Depends: foo | something" > is a bad idea from the get-go. After all, foo can have three states on > an architecture: installable, unavailable, or > available-but-uninstallable-f

Re: epoch bump for babl and gegl libraries

2020-08-18 Thread Adrian Bunk
On Mon, Aug 17, 2020 at 10:21:37AM +0100, Simon McVittie wrote: >... > Historically, versions of these packages were shipped by the third-party > deb-multimedia.org apt repository. That would have been fine, except that > the maintainer(s) of deb-multimedia.org added an epoch to their versions. > I

Re: introducing an epoch for src:debian-security-support

2020-08-22 Thread Adrian Bunk
On Mon, Aug 17, 2020 at 10:01:53AM +, Holger Levsen wrote: > hi, > > debian-security-support | 2019.12.12~deb8u2 | jessie-security | > source, all > debian-security-support | 2020.06.21~deb9u1 | stretch | > source, all > debian-security-support | 2020.06.21~deb

Re: epoch bump for babl and gegl libraries

2020-08-22 Thread Adrian Bunk
On Sat, Aug 22, 2020 at 05:05:36PM +0300, Andrei POPESCU wrote: > On Lu, 17 aug 20, 10:21:37, Simon McVittie wrote: > > > > Jeremy Bicha contacted deb-multimedia.org and arranged for babl and gegl > > to be dropped from the third-party repository, which fixes this problem > > for new installations

Re: Network access during build

2016-09-18 Thread Adrian Bunk
On Wed, Sep 07, 2016 at 09:26:37AM -0700, Russ Allbery wrote: >... > Full disclosure: several of my packages in the archive have similar tests. > Those tests are part of the upstream test suite for the getaddrinfo and > getnameinfo replacement functions for OSes that are too old to have them. > The

Re: Debian does not have customers

2016-09-21 Thread Adrian Bunk
On Wed, Sep 21, 2016 at 10:56:10AM -0700, Russ Allbery wrote: >... > If no one is ever going to look at the bug again, just close it. It feels > more confrontational, but it's far more honest, and it doesn't create > unrealistic expectations. >... "no one is ever going to look at the bug again" i

Re: Debian does not have customers

2016-09-21 Thread Adrian Bunk
On Wed, Sep 21, 2016 at 12:50:41PM -0700, Russ Allbery wrote: >... > But still, despite all of those caveats, I do think there are a few things > that are fairly clear-cut. If the package has 3,000 open bugs, just close > out the unactionable reports in some polite and constructive way. At that >

Re: Bug#835533: dasher: Please package Dasher 5.0 beta

2016-10-04 Thread Adrian Bunk
(Cc-ing ftpmaster, debian-devel) On Tue, Oct 04, 2016 at 07:05:09PM +0200, Emilio Pozuelo Monfort wrote: > (Cc-ing debian-a11y) > > Hi, Hi Emilio, > On 30/09/16 13:03, Andreas Henriksson wrote: > > While the patch would solve the RC bug and get dasher back into > > testing, I'm hesitant to assi

Re: Bug#835533: dasher: Please package Dasher 5.0 beta

2016-10-06 Thread Adrian Bunk
On Thu, Oct 06, 2016 at 02:46:44AM -0400, Scott Kitterman wrote: >... > As frustrating as occasional removal/reintroduction cycles are, they are rare > enough that despite the frustration when they occur it's really not worth the > effort it would take to avoid them completely. This assumes that

Re: Bug#835533: dasher: Please package Dasher 5.0 beta

2016-10-06 Thread Adrian Bunk
On Thu, Oct 06, 2016 at 02:46:46PM -0400, Scott Kitterman wrote: > > > On October 6, 2016 8:51:59 AM EDT, Adrian Bunk wrote: > >On Thu, Oct 06, 2016 at 02:46:44AM -0400, Scott Kitterman wrote: > >>... > >> As frustrating as occasional removal/reintroduction cy

Re: Porter roll call for Debian Stretch

2016-10-09 Thread Adrian Bunk
[ adding debian-powerpc ] On Sun, Oct 09, 2016 at 06:54:44PM +0200, Moritz Mühlenhoff wrote: > Niels Thykier schrieb: > > If I am to support powerpc as a realease architecture for Stretch, I > > need to know that there are *active* porters behind it committed to > > keeping it in the working. Pe

Re: Porter roll call for Debian Stretch

2016-10-10 Thread Adrian Bunk
On Sun, Oct 09, 2016 at 11:13:21PM +0100, Adam D. Barratt wrote: > On Sun, 2016-10-09 at 21:12 +0300, Adrian Bunk wrote: > > [ adding debian-powerpc ] > > > > On Sun, Oct 09, 2016 at 06:54:44PM +0200, Moritz Mühlenhoff wrote: > > > Niels Thykier schrieb: > >

Re: When should we https our mirrors?

2016-10-16 Thread Adrian Bunk
On Sat, Oct 15, 2016 at 02:03:36PM -0400, Paul Tagliamonte wrote: >... > So, the real question: > > So, when are we going to push this? If not now, what criteria need to be > met? Why can't we https-ify the default CDN mirror today? >... This is actually only the server-side part of the problem,

Re: [buildd] unexpected FTBFS on amd64 buildd «binet»

2016-10-16 Thread Adrian Bunk
On Sun, Oct 16, 2016 at 02:14:47PM +, lumin wrote: > Hi there, > > I encountered an unexpected FTBFS on amd64 that I can't repro.[1] > And I'd like to ask the list before fixing it by e.g. an binary > only upload. > > My package lua-torch-torch7/experimental fails[2] to build from > source be

Re: [buildd] unexpected FTBFS on amd64 buildd «binet»

2016-10-17 Thread Adrian Bunk
On Mon, Oct 17, 2016 at 03:10:57AM +0100, Ben Hutchings wrote: > On Sun, 2016-10-16 at 18:57 +0300, Adrian Bunk wrote: > [...] > > You should fix your package so that it works on the lowest supported  > > hardware of each port. > > Right. > > > Autobuilding is

Re: Bug#841099: ITP: node-has-values -- Returns true if any values exist, false if empty

2016-10-17 Thread Adrian Bunk
On Mon, Oct 17, 2016 at 10:28:53PM +0200, Eduard Bloch wrote: > Hallo, > * Andrew Shadura [Mon, Oct 17 2016, 08:23:19PM]: > > Hi, > > > > On 17 October 2016 at 18:57, Sruthi Chandran wrote: > > > Package: wnpp > > > Severity: wishlist > > > Owner: Sruthi Chandran > > > X-Debbugs-CC: debian-devel

Re: Bug#841196: ITP: node-os-homedir -- Node.js 4 `os.homedir()` ponyfill

2016-10-18 Thread Adrian Bunk
On Tue, Oct 18, 2016 at 04:15:50PM +0100, Steve McIntyre wrote: >... > Life's too short to go and fix all the crap in the world personally, > but we can keep certain minimum standards for what we as a group allow > into Debian. :-( What policies and processes should ensure these minimum standards?

Re: Bug#841113: ITP: extremetools -- tools for running processes under extreme uid and gid

2016-10-20 Thread Adrian Bunk
On Wed, Oct 19, 2016 at 09:33:14AM -0200, Henrique de Moraes Holschuh wrote: > On Wed, Oct 19, 2016, at 06:56, Jan Mojzis wrote: > > >I read manpage on github, but did not understood, what exactly this > > > program provides. Can it replace creation system users for dropping > > > privileges? > >

Re: Bug#841113: ITP: extremetools -- tools for running processes under extreme uid and gid

2016-10-22 Thread Adrian Bunk
On Fri, Oct 21, 2016 at 08:55:26AM +0200, Jan Mojzis wrote: > > "extremely outdated"? > > > > This sounds like a hack from ~ 20 years ago when people realized that > > running several programs at the same time as nobody does not isolate > > them from each other. > > > > Much better solutions for

Re: When should we https our mirrors?

2016-10-24 Thread Adrian Bunk
On Sun, Oct 23, 2016 at 06:04:50AM -0700, Kristian Erik Hermansen wrote: >... > The main issue is that a well positioned attacker, such as the NSA or > Chinese router admins, have the ability to collect and analyze in > real-time what systems have installed what patches installed by > monitoring th

Re: client-side signature checking of Debian archives (Re: When should we https our mirrors?)

2016-10-24 Thread Adrian Bunk
On Sun, Oct 23, 2016 at 07:28:23PM -0700, Russ Allbery wrote: >... > The value of HTTPS lies in its protection against passive snooping. Given > the sad state of the public CA infrastructure, you cannot really protect > against active MITM with HTTPS without certificate pinning. You are implicite

Re: When should we https our mirrors?

2016-10-24 Thread Adrian Bunk
On Mon, Oct 24, 2016 at 04:00:49AM -0700, Kristian Erik Hermansen wrote: > On Mon, Oct 24, 2016 at 1:59 AM, Adrian Bunk wrote: > but also I should point out that your email is being routed > insecurely via welho.com and lacks TLS in transit, so I also probably > shouldn't

Re: When should we https our mirrors?

2016-10-24 Thread Adrian Bunk
On Mon, Oct 24, 2016 at 04:00:39PM +0100, Ian Jackson wrote: > Adrian Bunk writes ("Re: When should we https our mirrors?"): >... > Adrian: > > Noone is arguing that switching to https would be a bad thing, > > but whether or not it will happen depends solely on whe

Re: client-side signature checking of Debian archives (Re: When should we https our mirrors?)

2016-10-24 Thread Adrian Bunk
On Mon, Oct 24, 2016 at 09:22:39AM -0700, Russ Allbery wrote: > Adrian Bunk writes: > > On Sun, Oct 23, 2016 at 07:28:23PM -0700, Russ Allbery wrote: > > >>... > >> The value of HTTPS lies in its protection against passive snooping. Given > >> the sad sta

Re: client-side signature checking of Debian archives (Re: When should we https our mirrors?)

2016-10-25 Thread Adrian Bunk
On Mon, Oct 24, 2016 at 04:33:57PM -0700, Russ Allbery wrote: > Adrian Bunk writes: >... > > I would assume this can be pretty automated, and that by NSA standards > > this is not a hard problem. > > Since the entire exchange is encrypted, it's not completely

Re: "PIE by default" transition is underway -- wiki needs updating

2016-10-26 Thread Adrian Bunk
On Wed, Oct 26, 2016 at 05:37:06AM +0200, Adam Borowski wrote: > On Wed, Oct 26, 2016 at 12:37:18AM +0200, Andreas Cadhalpun wrote: > > The current policy says: > > "As to the static libraries, the common case is not to have relocatable > > code" > > > > As of gcc-6 version 6.2.0-7 this is factua

Re: Planned NMU of w3-recs would use much archive disk space

2016-10-28 Thread Adrian Bunk
On Thu, Oct 27, 2016 at 08:41:12AM -0200, Henrique de Moraes Holschuh wrote: >... > That said, Thaddeus, if you do go ahead with the upload please check if > you can minimize that size somehow, even just a 10% drop in size would > already be worth the work it took for something big like this. >...

Re: Rebuilds with unexpected timestamps

2016-10-30 Thread Adrian Bunk
On Sun, Oct 30, 2016 at 04:02:48PM +, Ian Jackson wrote: >... > Most of our packages use `make' or something like it. make relies on > timestamps to decide what to rebuild. It seems that sometimes our > source packages contain combinations of timestamps (and perhaps stamp > files) which, in p

Re: Rebuilds with unexpected timestamps

2016-10-31 Thread Adrian Bunk
On Sun, Oct 30, 2016 at 11:48:56PM +, Simon McVittie wrote: >... > * Source for generated files in the tarball: should be in both git and > tarball, but sometimes mistakenly omitted from tarballs (e.g. configure.ac, > m4/foo.m4, build-aux/git-version-gen). Leaving these out of the tarball i

Re: Rebuilds with unexpected timestamps [and 1 more messages]

2016-10-31 Thread Adrian Bunk
On Mon, Oct 31, 2016 at 01:42:26AM +, Ian Jackson wrote: >... > Adrian Bunk writes ("Re: Rebuilds with unexpected timestamps"): > > Be prepared to see a lot of such issues when you touch random files. > > I'm certainly expecting to see lots of issues. >

Re: Rebuilds with unexpected timestamps [and 1 more messages]

2016-10-31 Thread Adrian Bunk
On Mon, Oct 31, 2016 at 03:58:12PM +, Ian Jackson wrote: > Adrian Bunk writes ("Re: Rebuilds with unexpected timestamps [and 1 more > messages]"): > > On Mon, Oct 31, 2016 at 01:42:26AM +, Ian Jackson wrote: > ... > > > If it does "sufficiently diff

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