Re: [idea]: Switch default compression from "xz" to "zstd" for .deb packages

I think it's a good idea now that dpkg supports it [1]. Ubuntu already did it years ago [2], and some non-deb based distros as well (e.g. Fedora, Arch). Cheers, Stephan [1]: https://bugs.debian.org/892664 [2]: https://balintreczey.hu/blog/hello-zstd-compressed-debs-in-ubuntu/

Re: Do not plan to support /usr/lib/pam.d for Debian pam

On Fri, Sep 15, 2023 at 02:08:06PM -0600, Sam Hartman wrote: > > > Apropos of the discussion about removing default configuration from > /etc. > Upstream PAM now supports doing that. You can set up a vendor directory > such as /usr/lib where pam.d and security live. What are other distributions

Re: [idea]: Switch default compression from "xz" to "zstd" for .deb packages

Hi! On Sat, 2023-09-16 at 10:31:20 +0530, Hideki Yamane wrote: > ## More bandwidth > > According to https://www.speedtest.net/global-index, broadband bandwidth > in Nicaragua becomes almost 10x > > - 2012: 1.7Mbps > - 2023: 17.4Mbps Well that page still does not look too great for many othe

Bug#1052045: ITP: rust-ed25519-dalek -- fast and efficient ed25519 EdDSA key handling

Package: wnpp Severity: wishlist Owner: Jonas Smedegaard X-Debbugs-Cc: debian-devel@lists.debian.org -BEGIN PGP SIGNED MESSAGE- Hash: SHA512 * Package name: rust-ed25519-dalek Version : 2.0.0 Upstream Contact: isis agora lovecruft * URL : https://github.com/d

Re: [idea]: Switch default compression from "xz" to "zstd" for .deb packages

On Sat, Sep 16, 2023 at 10:31:20AM +0530, Hideki Yamane wrote: > Today I want to propose you to change default compression format in .deb, > {data,control}.tar."xz" to ."zst". > According to https://www.speedtest.net/global-index, broadband bandwidth > in Nicaragua becomes almost 10x > > - 2

Bug#1052054: ITP: node-sort-package-json -- Node.js library to sort package.json

Package: wnpp Severity: wishlist Owner: Yadd X-Debbugs-Cc: debian-devel@lists.debian.org * Package name: node-sort-package-json Version : 2.5.1 Upstream Contact: Keith Cirkel * URL : https://github.com/fisker/git-hooks-list * License : Expat Programming Lang

Re: [idea]: Switch default compression from "xz" to "zstd" for .deb packages

Just one comment. Be careful if it bloats up our mirrors. Is there any estimate on the extra space cost for a full debian mirror? If we trade-off the disk space with decompression speed, zstd -19 is not necessarily very fast. I did not benchmark, but it is slow. On Sat, 2023-09-16 at 10:31 +053

Re: Do not plan to support /usr/lib/pam.d for Debian pam

> "Russ" == Russ Allbery writes: Russ> Sam Hartman writes: >>> "Peter" == Peter Pentchev writes: Peter> Hm, what happens if a sysadmin deliberately removed a file Peter> that the distribution ships in /etc, trying to make sure that Peter> some specific service could

Re: sysadmin configuration of sparse-/etc vs prepopulated-/etc?

> "Josh" == Josh Triplett writes: Josh> If we're talking about developing a solution that doesn't Josh> already exist, why not have that solution *be* the Josh> notification-and-diff/show-the-defaults mechanism you're Josh> describing? For instance, provide a declarative mecha

Re: /usr/-only image

On Sat, 16 Sept 2023 at 00:46, Steve Langasek wrote: > > On Fri, Sep 15, 2023 at 07:44:45PM +0100, Luca Boccassi wrote: > > In fact, Marco yesterday told me the only blocker to boot a minimal > > Debian image with only /usr is PAM, and that's exclusively because of > > downstream-specific changes

Re: [idea]: Switch default compression from "xz" to "zstd" for .deb packages

M. Zhou wrote: > Just one comment. > > Be careful if it bloats up our mirrors. Is there any estimate on > the extra space cost for a full debian mirror? > > If we trade-off the disk space with decompression speed, zstd -19 > is not necessarily very fast. I did not benchmark, but it is slow. Anec

Re: Do not plan to support /usr/lib/pam.d for Debian pam

On Sat, 16 Sept 2023 at 11:20, Matthew Garrett wrote: > > On Fri, Sep 15, 2023 at 02:08:06PM -0600, Sam Hartman wrote: > > > > > > Apropos of the discussion about removing default configuration from > > /etc. > > Upstream PAM now supports doing that. You can set up a vendor directory > > such as

Re: /usr/-only image

Luca Boccassi writes: > Perhaps 'modifications' was the wrong term, I meant the whole system > that handles the configuration. Correct me if I'm wrong, but AFAIK that > is all Debian-specific. Arch, Fedora and Suse do not have this issue. Speaking as the author of several PAM modules, Debian's P

Re: Do not plan to support /usr/lib/pam.d for Debian pam

Marco d'Itri writes: > On Sep 15, Sam Hartman wrote: >> I have significant discomfort aligning what you say (pam is the last >> blocker) with what several people said earlier in the week. What I >> heard is that there was no project consensus to do this, and that >> people were running experime

Re: Re: Bug#1052004: libcbor: requires source-only upload to transition

It would be lovely to get this enabled! It's a pain point for me also, on occasion. -Steve

Bug#1052071: ITP: node-esniff -- Low footprint JavaScript source code parser

Package: wnpp Severity: wishlist Owner: Josenilson Ferreira da Silva X-Debbugs-Cc: debian-devel@lists.debian.org, nilsonfsi...@hotmail.com * Package name: node-esniff Version : 1.1.0 Upstream Contact: Mariusz Nowak * URL : https://github.com/medikoo/esniff * License

Performance counter stats Was Re: [idea]: Switch default compression from "xz" to "zstd" for .deb packages

On 9/16/23, Robert Edmonds wrote: > $ time xz -v -k -T0 -6 data.tar > data.tar (1/1) > 100 %71.9 MiB / 452.5 MiB = 0.15921 MiB/s 0:21 > > Performance counter stats for 'xz -v -k -T0 -6 data.tar': > > 206,070.39 msec task-clock #9.602 CPUs > ut

Re: Performance counter stats Was Re: [idea]: Switch default compression from "xz" to "zstd" for .deb packages

Lee wrote: > What did you do to get the "Performance counter stats" section in the > results for time? alias time="perf stat" -- Robert Edmonds edmo...@debian.org

Bug#1052075: ITP: node-speech-rule-engine -- NodeJS version of the ChromeVox speech rule engine

Package: wnpp Severity: wishlist Owner: Yadd X-Debbugs-Cc: debian-devel@lists.debian.org * Package name: node-speech-rule-engine Version : 3.2.2 Upstream Contact: Volker Sorge * URL : https://github.com/zorkow/speech-rule-engine * License : Apache-2.0 Progra

Bug#1052076: ITP: node-mathjax-full -- JavaScript library to display math in browsers

Package: wnpp Severity: wishlist Owner: Yadd X-Debbugs-Cc: debian-devel@lists.debian.org * Package name: node-mathjax-full Version : 3.2.2 Upstream Contact: The MathJax Consortium * URL : https://github.com/mathjax/Math

Re: [idea]: Switch default compression from "xz" to "zstd" for .deb packages

On Sat, 16 Sep 2023 13:34:02 +0200 Guillem Jover wrote: > That's not correct. dpkg-deb is doing multi-threaded xz decompression > since 1.21.13, and dpkg-source is doing multi-threaded xz compression > and decompression since 1.21.14. > > Also the Ubuntu zstd implementation did not have multi-thr

Re: [idea]: Switch default compression from "xz" to "zstd" for .deb packages

On Sat, 16 Sep 2023 14:25:48 -0400 "M. Zhou" wrote: > Be careful if it bloats up our mirrors. Is there any estimate on > the extra space cost for a full debian mirror? Yes, sure, I'll do some experiment for it later. Thank you for your comment! -- Hideki Yamane

Re: Do not plan to support /usr/lib/pam.d for Debian pam

On Sep 16, Russ Allbery wrote: > However, and this is very important, *no one has decided that you get to > do that work in Debian*. I am confident that I have never said otherwise. > Right now, any base system package maintainer could decide that putting > configuration files in /etc makes sens

Re: Do not plan to support /usr/lib/pam.d for Debian pam

On Sep 16, Steve Langasek wrote: > While I have applications downstream which also care about empty /etc, the > current situation is that this wouldn't help because almost all the > PAM application configs in Debian reference one or more of > common-{account,auth,password,session,session-noninter