Re: Proposal: plocate as standard for bookworm

2021-02-10 Thread Andrei POPESCU
On Mi, 10 feb 21, 12:24:20, Andrey Rahmatullin wrote: > On Tue, Feb 09, 2021 at 03:58:39PM -0500, Marvin Renich wrote: > > These have come to be expected to be on a typical Linux system by almost > > every technically-knowledgeable Linux user. Locate does not satisfy > > that criterion > (I'm surp

Re: Proposal: plocate as standard for bookworm

2021-02-10 Thread Andrei POPESCU
On Lu, 08 feb 21, 23:13:10, Steinar H. Gunderson wrote: > > The downside is, of course, the nightly updatedb job, which it is rare that > anyone will notice, and the space used. That's assuming the system is left running over night. It might be noticeable if run on next system start. Kind rega

Re: Debian-wide firmware prober

2021-02-10 Thread Paul Sutton
On 10/02/2021 06:31, Zlatan wrote: There is isenkram-cli which can detect and autoinstall the needed firmware. Z Ah thanks for this, I had never heard of that one, these tools need to be better known. Also vrms, lists any non-free software installed it may help anyone who wants to k

Re: Debian-wide firmware prober

2021-02-10 Thread 積丹尼 Dan Jacobson
Z> isenkram-cli OK, but it seems to work differently that what I was thinking.

Re: Debian-wide firmware prober

2021-02-10 Thread Thaddeus H. Black
On Wed, Feb 10, 2021 at 08:31:43AM +, Paul Sutton wrote: > ... I had never heard of that one, these tools need to be better known. If Enrico Zini's and Enrico Rossi's 'debtags' is installed, then try this command: debtags search hardware::detection That makes the tools better known. Add

Re: Debian-wide firmware prober

2021-02-10 Thread Petter Reinholdtsen
積丹尼 Dan Jacobson writes: > Z> isenkram-cli > > OK, but it seems to work differently that what I was thinking. I assume you are talking about isenkram-autoinstall-firmware? How so? Perhaps the documentation could be improved to adjust the expectations, or event the program could be adjusted...

Re: devscripts: wrap-and-sort should default to -ast

2021-02-10 Thread Phil Morrell
On Tue, Feb 09, 2021 at 08:49:51PM +0100, Thomas Goirand wrote: > On 2/9/21 7:40 PM, Russ Allbery wrote: > > Jonas Smedegaard writes: > >> Let's see if Debian can agree on a single normalization of 822-ish > >> files. For starters, I disagree that "wrap-and-sort -a" is a suitable > >> normalizati

Bug#982450: ITP: apertium-fra-frp -- Apertium translation data for the French-Arpitan pair

2021-02-10 Thread Kartik Mistry
Package: wnpp Severity: wishlist Owner: Kartik Mistry X-Debbugs-Cc: debian-devel@lists.debian.org, kar...@debian.org * Package name: apertium-fra-frp Version : 1.0.0 Upstream Author : Apertium Project Management Committee * URL : https://www.apertium.org/ * License

Re: devscripts: wrap-and-sort should default to -ast

2021-02-10 Thread Phil Morrell
On Wed, Feb 10, 2021 at 11:47:12AM +, Phil Morrell wrote: > To make that work as a default, there would need to be something like an > --short-preferred-unless-existing-indent sorry, going by the current default, that should be --align-preferred-unless-existing-short signature.asc Descriptio

Re: Proposal: plocate as standard for bookworm

2021-02-10 Thread Bjørn Mork
Marvin Renich writes: > * Steinar H. Gunderson [210209 14:27]: >> On Tue, Feb 09, 2021 at 08:53:10PM +0200, Adrian Bunk wrote: >> > And there are now also many non-technical Linux users who have never >> > used a shell. >> >> Well, why do we include netcat, telnet or hdparm? lsof? pciutils? >> t

a proper-unix meta package (Re: Proposal: plocate as standard for bookworm)

2021-02-10 Thread Holger Levsen
On Wed, Feb 10, 2021 at 01:05:04PM +0100, Bjørn Mork wrote: > I happen to disagree. To me this is yet another step away from being a > proper Unix system - to something else. Which would be fine if it moved > us forward. As it's 2021 and 99% of the Linux user base has no idea what UNIX (or Linux

Re: a proper-unix meta package (Re: Proposal: plocate as standard for bookworm)

2021-02-10 Thread Adam Borowski
On Wed, Feb 10, 2021 at 12:21:36PM +, Holger Levsen wrote: > On Wed, Feb 10, 2021 at 01:05:04PM +0100, Bjørn Mork wrote: > > I happen to disagree. To me this is yet another step away from being a > > proper Unix system - to something else. Which would be fine if it moved > > us forward. > >

Re: a proper-unix meta package (Re: Proposal: plocate as standard for bookworm)

2021-02-10 Thread Bjørn Mork
Adam Borowski writes: > On Wed, Feb 10, 2021 at 12:21:36PM +, Holger Levsen wrote: >> On Wed, Feb 10, 2021 at 01:05:04PM +0100, Bjørn Mork wrote: >> > I happen to disagree. To me this is yet another step away from being a >> > proper Unix system - to something else. Which would be fine if it

Re: a proper-unix meta package (Re: Proposal: plocate as standard for bookworm)

2021-02-10 Thread Ansgar
On Wed, 2021-02-10 at 13:38 +0100, Adam Borowski wrote: > Define "proper Unix"... A system including Emacs. So we would need emacs at Priority: standard or even important or required :] Ansgar

Re: a proper-unix meta package (Re: Proposal: plocate as standard for bookworm)

2021-02-10 Thread Holger Levsen
On Wed, Feb 10, 2021 at 01:38:56PM +0100, Adam Borowski wrote: > > As it's 2021 and 99% of the Linux user base has no idea what UNIX (or Linux) > > is, maybe it's time for a src:proper-unix-system package for those who care? > Define "proper Unix"... well, I'd leave this to the people who care. B

Re: Proposal: plocate as standard for bookworm

2021-02-10 Thread Vincent Lefevre
On 2021-02-09 22:12:31 +0100, Ansgar wrote: > "Steinar H. Gunderson" writes: > > On Sat, Feb 06, 2021 at 10:16:29PM -0800, Josh Triplett wrote: > >> Furthermore, any mechanism they use to configure one of them > >> (e.g. for privacy or performance reasons) will not control the other, > >> and again

ITP: golang-github-pkg-diff -- golang diff module

2021-02-10 Thread Faustin Lammler
Package: wnpp Severity: wishlist Owner: Faustin Lammler * Package name: golang-github-pkg-diff Version : 0.0~git20200914.5b29258-1 Upstream Author : Josh Bleecher Snyder * URL : https://github.com/pkg/diff * License : BSD-3-clause Programming Lang: Go Desc

Re: Possible DEP proposal - contribution preferences

2021-02-10 Thread Niels Thykier
Russ Allbery: > Jonas Smedegaard writes: > >> Let's see if Debian can agree on a single normalization of 822-ish >> files. For starters, I disagree that "wrap-and-sort -a" is a suitable >> normalization, as that will involve re-indentation when keys change. >> Instead, I propose this as starting

Re: a proper-unix meta package (Re: Proposal: plocate as standard for bookworm)

2021-02-10 Thread Jonathan Carter
On 2021/02/10 15:16, Bjørn Mork wrote: > Adam Borowski writes: >>> As it's 2021 and 99% of the Linux user base has no idea what UNIX (or Linux) >>> is, maybe it's time for a src:proper-unix-system package for those who care? >> >> Define "proper Unix"... > > The definition depends on whether you

Re: Possible DEP proposal - contribution preferences

2021-02-10 Thread Jonas Smedegaard
Quoting Niels Thykier (2021-02-10 17:35:36) > Russ Allbery: > > Jonas Smedegaard writes: > > > >> Let's see if Debian can agree on a single normalization of 822-ish > >> files. For starters, I disagree that "wrap-and-sort -a" is a > >> suitable normalization, as that will involve re-indentatio

Re: Proposal: plocate as standard for bookworm

2021-02-10 Thread Adrian Bunk
On Tue, Feb 09, 2021 at 12:02:33PM -0800, Russ Allbery wrote: > Adrian Bunk writes: > > On Mon, Feb 08, 2021 at 11:13:10PM +0100, Steinar H. Gunderson wrote: > >>... > >> users on > >> shared systems can expect it to be available without asking an > >> administrator > >> first. To me, locate has

Re: Proposal: plocate as standard for bookworm

2021-02-10 Thread Russ Allbery
Adrian Bunk writes: > On Tue, Feb 09, 2021 at 12:02:33PM -0800, Russ Allbery wrote: >> Adrian Bunk writes: >>> On Mon, Feb 08, 2021 at 11:13:10PM +0100, Steinar H. Gunderson wrote: users on shared systems can expect it to be available without asking an administrator first. To me, locat

Huh?? sbuild fails and pbuilder succeeds in building a Fortran-containing Python package

2021-02-10 Thread Julian Gilbey
I wonder if anyone has an idea about this thorny problem. I'm trying to create a package and thought I'd got something wrong, but have found the same behaviour happens with the "amp" package (version 0.6.1-1) and the "spherepack" package (version 3.3~a1-4), which suggests to me that the problem li

Re: Huh?? sbuild fails and pbuilder succeeds in building a Fortran-containing Python package

2021-02-10 Thread Johannes Schauer Marin Rodrigues
Hi, Quoting Julian Gilbey (2021-02-10 22:51:39) > I wonder if anyone has an idea about this thorny problem. I'm trying > to create a package and thought I'd got something wrong, but have > found the same behaviour happens with the "amp" package (version > 0.6.1-1) and the "spherepack" package (ve

Re: Huh?? sbuild fails and pbuilder succeeds in building a Fortran-containing Python package

2021-02-10 Thread Julian Gilbey
On Thu, Feb 11, 2021 at 12:15:38AM +0100, Johannes Schauer Marin Rodrigues wrote: > Hi, > > Quoting Julian Gilbey (2021-02-10 22:51:39) > > I wonder if anyone has an idea about this thorny problem. I'm trying > > to create a package and thought I'd got something wrong, but have > > found the sam

Re: a proper-unix meta package (Re: Proposal: plocate as standard for bookworm)

2021-02-10 Thread Gunnar Wolf
Jonathan Carter dijo [Wed, Feb 10, 2021 at 07:29:14PM +0200]: > >> Define "proper Unix"... > > > > The definition depends on whether you are a longhair or shorthair. > > If you're a proper blue-haired person, then the only proper Unix is Debian. Please do note that your definition might be of su

Re: Huh?? sbuild fails and pbuilder succeeds in building a Fortran-containing Python package

2021-02-10 Thread Jonathan Carter
On 2021/02/10 23:51, Julian Gilbey wrote: > creating > build/temp.linux-x86_64-3.9/build/src.linux-x86_64-3.9/build/src.linux-x86_64-3.9/Src > compile options: '-Ibuild/src.linux-x86_64-3.9/build/src.linux-x86_64-3.9/Src > -I/usr/lib/python3/dist-packages/numpy/core/include -I/usr/include/python3