Hi Boyuan,
On 2019-06-06 21:44, Boyuan Yang wrote:
> I do remember there's still some source packages / binary packages in Debian
> using the bzip2 format. If we are going to do that (which looks reasonable,
> BTW), a serious archive-wide scan should be made in advance to see how great
> the impac
Le 07/06/2019 à 09:48, Mo Zhou a écrit :
> Hi Boyuan,
>
> On 2019-06-06 21:44, Boyuan Yang wrote:
>> I do remember there's still some source packages / binary packages in Debian
>> using the bzip2 format. If we are going to do that (which looks reasonable,
>> BTW), a serious archive-wide scan shou
On 6/6/2019 12:49 PM, Bjørn Mork wrote:
> Daniel Lange writes:
>
>> We have more people registered for DebConf ("the Debian Developers'
>> conference") with @gmail.com than @debian.org addresses.
>
> You can't fix @gmail.com. It is deliberately broken for commercial
> reasons, and that won't st
On 6/6/2019 8:09 PM, Aron Xu wrote:
> Key interest in the thread is getting some insights about how to deal
> with the awkward situation that affects ZFS experience dramatically -
> Linux will remove those symbols in LTS kernel release, although
> in-kernel symbols are never promised to be stable.
On Thu, 06 Jun 2019, Sam Hartman wrote:
> > "Bastian" == Bastian Blank writes:
>
> Bastian> Hi Sam
> Bastian> On Thu, Jun 06, 2019 at 11:57:41AM -0400, Sam Hartman wrote:
> >> However, it's a lot easier to get a foo-guest account on salsa
> >> than it is to get a foo guest ac
Package: wnpp
Severity: wishlist
Owner: Alberto Garcia
* Package name: libwpe
Version : 1.3.0
Upstream Author : The WPE WebKit Team
* URL : https://wpewebkit.org/
* License : 2-clause BSD
Programming Lang: C
Description : Base library for the WPE WebKit
Package: wnpp
Severity: wishlist
Owner: Alberto Garcia
* Package name: wpebackend-fdo
Version : 1.3.0
Upstream Author : The WPE WebKit Team
* URL : https://wpewebkit.org/
* License : 2-clause BSD and Expat
Programming Lang: C++
Description : WPE backend
On 6/5/19 4:08 PM, Norbert Preining wrote:
> This should be
> completely independent from what one can do on salsa.
> So I propose that whatever one's level within Debian is, it should not
> change the status on salsa.
I also find it surprising that the "feature" from Alioth that one has to
compl
This is about GUI appearance and ergonomy.
I'll concentrate at XFCE, as I consider GNOME3's UI a lost cause, thus I'd
find it hard to bring constructive arguments there.
I also hate with a passion so-called "UX designers". Those are folks who
created Windows 8's Metro tiles, lightgray-on-white "
On Fri, 2019-06-07 at 17:24 +0200, Adam Borowski wrote:
> This is about GUI appearance and ergonomy.
>
> I'll concentrate at XFCE, as I consider GNOME3's UI a lost cause
Have you tried Cinnamon, it's quite nice and not ugly nor unwieldy.
> * people tend to use computers with only limited lightin
Hi all,
Since March we are running a local crowdfunding campaign to encourage
brazilians to help DebConf19 because donating to DebConf19, they feel
part of the Conference. We had a good experience doing this on the last
two minidebconfs. Now we translated it because maybe you would like to
join it
And here's the URL for the crowdfunding:
https://www.catarse.me/debconf19
On Fri, 07 Jun 2019, Thomas Goirand wrote:
> On 6/5/19 4:08 PM, Norbert Preining wrote:
> > This should be
> > completely independent from what one can do on salsa.
> > So I propose that whatever one's level within Debian is, it should not
> > change the status on salsa.
>
> I also find it surpr
Adam Borowski writes:
> => Install gtk3-nocsd by default in all desktop tasks but Gnome. It's not
> perfect but it helps.
That's nice. Thanks for the tip. I enjoy nice tools like eog and
evince, but have always been annoyed by the missing window title and
associated window manager cont
Hi!
Package install times are quite nasty. For example, a full GUI install can
take[1] 1.5 hours on spinning rust, and several minutes even on raid0 of Optane
disks -- you can't get much faster without operating entirely in memory[2].
There are two massive recent improvements:
* eatmydata helps a
Adam Borowski writes:
> There are two massive recent improvements:
> * eatmydata helps a lot, and eating a power-lossed install is not a loss
We did an experiment at work about four years ago with using eatmydata
inside a D-I run, and had to revert because we ran into no end of problems
with zer
On Fri, Jun 07, 2019 at 10:52:43AM -0700, Russ Allbery wrote:
> Adam Borowski writes:
>
> > There are two massive recent improvements:
> > * eatmydata helps a lot, and eating a power-lossed install is not a loss
>
> We did an experiment at work about four years ago with using eatmydata
> inside
(I *love* customization, so I can't help but chime in here...)
As far as I know, Debian mostly uses default upstream desktop defaults,
so these concerns apply there too. Evidently some DEs (Plasma, Cinnamon)
focus on looks out of the box more than others.
On 2019-06-07 8:24 a.m., Adam Borowski wr
On 2019-06-07 17:24 +0200, Adam Borowski wrote:
> * CSD is still a thing. No, your special program shouldn't get to ignore
> system theme, put controls in wrong order, miss some controls, not respond
> to minimize/etc if it's currently busy, etc. Consistency not one-off
> designs.
What is
Bjørn Mork - 07.06.19, 19:22:
> Adam Borowski writes:
> > => Install gtk3-nocsd by default in all desktop tasks but Gnome.
> > It's not>
> > perfect but it helps.
>
> That's nice. Thanks for the tip. I enjoy nice tools like eog and
> evince, but have always been annoyed by the miss
On Fri, 07 Jun 2019, Wookey wrote:
> On 2019-06-07 17:24 +0200, Adam Borowski wrote:
> > * CSD is still a thing. No, your special program shouldn't get to ignore
> > system theme, put controls in wrong order, miss some controls, not respond
> > to minimize/etc if it's currently busy, etc. Co
Hey Adam
On 2019/06/07 17:24, Adam Borowski wrote:> I'll concentrate at XFCE
I proposed most of what you said in this email (and some more) in the
#debian-xfce channel a few months ago. They were actually surprisingly
open to having such config changes and suggested I prepare a proposal, I
was g
Adam Borowski - 07.06.19, 17:24:
> This is about GUI appearance and ergonomy.
>
> I'll concentrate at XFCE, as I consider GNOME3's UI a lost cause, thus
> I'd find it hard to bring constructive arguments there.
Similar to you I do not "get" GNOME 3. I have no idea why I would like
to use it. But
On Fri, Jun 07, 2019 at 11:24:03AM -0700, James Lu wrote:
> As far as I know, Debian mostly uses default upstream desktop defaults,
> so these concerns apply there too. Evidently some DEs (Plasma, Cinnamon)
> focus on looks out of the box more than others.
Yeah, and when upstream defaults are not
On 07/06/2019 18:46, Pranav Jain wrote:
> Probably this one: https://www.catarse.me/debconf19
Ops, thanks :-)
I had forgotten it.
Best regards,
--
Paulo Henrique de Lima Santana (phls)
Curitiba - Brasil
Debian Developer
Diretor do Instituto para Conservação de Tecnologias Livres
Membro da Com
On 2019-06-07 12:09 p.m., Adam Borowski wrote:
> On Fri, Jun 07, 2019 at 11:24:03AM -0700, James Lu wrote:
>> As far as I know, Debian mostly uses default upstream desktop defaults,
>> so these concerns apply there too. Evidently some DEs (Plasma, Cinnamon)
>> focus on looks out of the box more t
On Fri, Jun 07, 2019 at 03:36:08PM -0500, Federico Mena Quintero wrote:
> On Fri, 2019-06-07 at 11:48 +0800, Julian Andres Klode wrote:
>
> Why am I getting BCCed on this? Is this low-key unsolicited
> complaining like in https://mastodon.social/@juliank/102226793499538013
I did not BCC you, som
Adam Borowski - 07.06.19, 21:09:
> On Fri, Jun 07, 2019 at 11:24:03AM -0700, James Lu wrote:
[…]
> > > * default font is ugly and poorly hinted -- the latter is
> > > especially jarring> >
> > > on a low-resolution screen I'm at right now, the former still
> > > applies to one's proper battles
On Fri, Jun 07, 2019 at 10:57:17PM +0200, Martin Steigerwald wrote:
> Adam Borowski - 07.06.19, 21:09:
> > On Fri, Jun 07, 2019 at 11:24:03AM -0700, James Lu wrote:
> > > I use Noto Sans, which supports a lot of languages out of the box
> > > and is the default in at least Cinnamon AFAIK.
> >
> >
Hi,
On Fri, Jun 07, 2019 at 09:54:01AM +0200, Xavier wrote:
> Le 07/06/2019 à 09:48, Mo Zhou a écrit :
> > On 2019-06-06 21:44, Boyuan Yang wrote:
> >> I do remember there's still some source packages / binary packages in
> >> Debian
> >> using the bzip2 format. If we are going to do that (which
On Fri, 2019-06-07 at 11:48 +0800, Julian Andres Klode wrote:
Why am I getting BCCed on this? Is this low-key unsolicited
complaining like in https://mastodon.social/@juliank/102226793499538013
?
> seeing that Federico Mena Quintero has taken over bzip2 development
> and is in the process of po
On Fri, Jun 07, 2019 at 12:32:54PM -0700, James Lu wrote:
> >> +1 for Materia (materia-gtk-theme), especially the dark variant. It's a
> >> simple, flat dark theme that preserves contrast without being having a
> >> pitch black background, more so than Arc-Dark and even Adwaita-Dark. The
> >> widge
On Fri, 2019-06-07 at 22:48 +0200, Julian Andres Klode wrote:
> I did not BCC you, someone must have bounced it to you. You might
> want to look at your mail headers to see how it got to you. I don't
> even know your email address (well now I do...). I hope whoever did
> it will step forward.
You
On Wed, Jun 05, 2019 at 09:19:03AM -0400, Sam Hartman wrote:
> Handling reimbursements for BSPs has significantly crossed my threshhold
> for not being fun with our current procedures. We absolutely should
> reimburse developers attending BSPs
yes! why don't you just say 'yes' to all requests wri
btw,
i'd also be in favor of raising this to 100 Euro or British Pounds or
Swiss Francs, or whatever the currency is, where 90-110 $something has
the most value.
contributions are our highest value.
--
tschau,
Holger
Am Do., 6. Juni 2019 um 20:33 Uhr schrieb Kyle Edwards
:
>
> Hello all,
>
> I have been preparing Ubuntu releases for CMake on our own APT
> repository for several months now. We did this by preparing our own
> repository infrastructure - we have a machine that builds packages, and
> a machine that
On Sat, Jun 8, 2019 at 4:48 AM Julian Andres Klode wrote:
> On Fri, Jun 07, 2019 at 03:36:08PM -0500, Federico Mena Quintero wrote:
> > On Fri, 2019-06-07 at 11:48 +0800, Julian Andres Klode wrote:
> >
> > Why am I getting BCCed on this? Is this low-key unsolicited
> > complaining like in https://
Paul Wise writes:
> That was me. I apologise for the confusion I generated. I get annoyed at
> people who don't CC the right people when sending mail. In this case I
> probably should have sent you Federico direct mail pointing at the
> archives instead.
This is called snitch-tagging in other fo
On Sat, Jun 8, 2019 at 10:09 AM Russ Allbery wrote:
> Please let us have internal conversations without using them to
> prematurely pick fights with external maintainers.
It definitely wasn't my intention to pick a fight.
I strongly disagree with hiding upstream problems from upstream
developers
Paul Wise writes:
> On Sat, Jun 8, 2019 at 10:09 AM Russ Allbery wrote:
>> Please let us have internal conversations without using them to
>> prematurely pick fights with external maintainers.
> It definitely wasn't my intention to pick a fight.
Yeah, I didn't think that part was intentional si
On Fri, Jun 07, 2019 at 09:03:18PM -0700, Russ Allbery wrote:
> This isn't just for us; it's also for the upstreams involved. It can be
> demoralizing and frustrating to be pulled into negative discussions about
> something you care about, and people have limited capacity to react
> gracefully to
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