Re: Bug#915050: (gitlab) Re: Bug#915050: Keep out of testing

2018-12-18 Thread Pirate Praveen
[adding -devel to cc] On 12/3/18 8:11 PM, Dominik George wrote: >> well, Debian is using gitlab!!! so this sentence has no sense. The >> problem here >> is that is a complex software that depends of a lot of pieces and it's >> not >> easy/possible to fit the definition. So, maybe we should create

Re: Bug#915050: (gitlab) Re: Bug#915050: Keep out of testing

2018-12-18 Thread Alexander Wirt
On Tue, 18 Dec 2018, Pirate Praveen wrote: > [adding -devel to cc] > > On 12/3/18 8:11 PM, Dominik George wrote: > >> well, Debian is using gitlab!!! so this sentence has no sense. The > >> problem here > >> is that is a complex software that depends of a lot of pieces and it's > >> not > >> easy

Conflict over /usr/bin/dune

2018-12-18 Thread Stéphane Glondu
Hi, It has been brought to my attention that both packages "whitedune" and "dune" provide the binary "/usr/bin/dune" (#916468). The situation falls directly under section 10.1 of the Policy: https://www.debian.org/doc/debian-policy/ch-files.html#s-binaries > Two different packages must not inst

Depends of libnss3

2018-12-18 Thread Daniel Reichelt
Hi, why does libnss3/buster depend on libc6 >= 2.28 for i386 but for amd64, >= 2.14 suffices? I'm running stretch/amd64 with libnss3 pinned to buster, using stretch's libc6. On that machine, live-build'ing an i386 stretch image no longer works since the current libnss3 migrated to buster a few da

Re: Depends of libnss3

2018-12-18 Thread Andrey Rahmatullin
On Tue, Dec 18, 2018 at 01:19:54PM +, Daniel Reichelt wrote: > why does libnss3/buster depend on libc6 >= 2.28 for i386 but for amd64, > >= 2.14 suffices? Symbols, I'm sure. > Is there a technical rationale for this You can compare the symbol lists to find the differences, I suppose. -- WBR

Re: Bug#915050: (gitlab) Re: Bug#915050: Keep out of testing

2018-12-18 Thread Rhonda D'Vine
Hey, * Pirate Praveen [2018-12-18 09:34:46 CET]: > On 12/3/18 8:11 PM, Dominik George wrote: > >> well, Debian is using gitlab!!! so this sentence has no sense. The > >> problem here > >> is that is a complex software that depends of a lot of pieces and it's > >> not > >> easy/possible to fit

Re: Bug#915050: (gitlab) Re: Bug#915050: Keep out of testing

2018-12-18 Thread Pirate Praveen
On 2018, ഡിസംബർ 18 7:14:14 PM IST, Rhonda D'Vine wrote: > And yes, I'm with Alexander, the volatile maintenance can't be dumped >on the backports team. It's a different workflow anyway. My proposal for backports is to have only the dependencies of packages in volatile that fall in the curren

Re: Bug#915050: (gitlab) Re: Bug#915050: Keep out of testing

2018-12-18 Thread Holger Levsen
On Tue, Dec 18, 2018 at 08:38:39PM +0530, Pirate Praveen wrote: > But if that is not possible, volatile as a separate archive is also fine. instead of volatile we need PPAs. -- cheers, Holger ---

[Artwork] Survey for the default artwork for Buster

2018-12-18 Thread Laura Arjona Reina
-BEGIN PGP SIGNED MESSAGE- Hash: SHA256 Hello all Slightly overdue, we have created a survey for the Buster artwork. Please choose your favourite at: https://surveys.debian.net Please be nice and vote only once! Note: the survey talks about moving themes from left to right, but in some

Bug#916793: ITP: puppet-module-heini-wait-for -- Puppet module for waiting for something

2018-12-18 Thread Thomas Goirand
Package: wnpp Severity: wishlist Owner: Thomas Goirand * Package name: puppet-module-heini-wait-for Version : 2.0.1 Upstream Author : Dirk Heinrichs * URL : https://github.com/heini/puppet-wait-for * License : Apache-2.0 Programming Lang: Puppet Descriptio

Re: Conflict over /usr/bin/dune

2018-12-18 Thread Ian Jackson
Stéphane Glondu writes ("Conflict over /usr/bin/dune"): > The "dune" package (of which I am the maintainer) is a popular build > system for OCaml projects. It is pretty recent, has strong upstream > support, and more and more projects are switching to it, which is a > reason to have it in Debian. >

Re: Conflict over /usr/bin/dune

2018-12-18 Thread Ian Jackson
Resending because 1. mailing @packages.d.o rather than @packages.qa.d.o 2. fixed one of the google urls which I broke while removing tracking crap Stéphane Glondu writes ("Conflict over /usr/bin/dune"): > The "dune" package (of which I am the maintainer) is a popular build > system for OC

Re: Bug#915050: (gitlab) Re: Bug#915050: Keep out of testing

2018-12-18 Thread Jeremy Bicha
On Tue, Dec 18, 2018 at 10:12 AM Holger Levsen wrote: > On Tue, Dec 18, 2018 at 08:38:39PM +0530, Pirate Praveen wrote: > > But if that is not possible, volatile as a separate archive is also fine. > > instead of volatile we need PPAs. Shortly before the Stretch release, when I was scrambling to

Re: Bug#915050: (gitlab) Re: Bug#915050: Keep out of testing

2018-12-18 Thread Pirate Praveen
On 12/18/18 8:41 PM, Holger Levsen wrote: > On Tue, Dec 18, 2018 at 08:38:39PM +0530, Pirate Praveen wrote: >> But if that is not possible, volatile as a separate archive is also fine. > > instead of volatile we need PPAs. I think a redefined volatile is the best option for sharing work. But PPA

Re: Conflict over /usr/bin/dune

2018-12-18 Thread Ian Jackson
Ian Jackson writes ("Re: Conflict over /usr/bin/dune"): > https://www.google.com/search?q=dune+software > https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Dune_(software) > https://www.google.com/search?q=%2Fusr%2Fbin%2Fdune > > Under the circumstances it seems obvious that, at the very least, the > ocaml build t

Re: Conflict over /usr/bin/dune

2018-12-18 Thread Andrey Rahmatullin
Even firefox was renamed twice. -- WBR, wRAR signature.asc Description: PGP signature

Re: Handling of entropy during boot

2018-12-18 Thread Theodore Y. Ts'o
On Mon, Dec 17, 2018 at 09:46:42PM +0100, Stefan Fritsch wrote: > > There is a random seed file stored by systemd-random-seed.service that saves > entropy from one boot and loads it again after the next reboot. The random > seed file is re-written immediately after the file is read, so the syste

Re: Bug#915050: (gitlab) Re: Bug#915050: Keep out of testing

2018-12-18 Thread Philipp Kern
On 2018-12-18 18:40, Pirate Praveen wrote: On 12/18/18 8:41 PM, Holger Levsen wrote: On Tue, Dec 18, 2018 at 08:38:39PM +0530, Pirate Praveen wrote: But if that is not possible, volatile as a separate archive is also fine. instead of volatile we need PPAs. I think a redefined volatile is th

Re: Conflict over /usr/bin/dune

2018-12-18 Thread Philipp Kern
Am 18.12.2018 um 18:48 schrieb Ian Jackson: > But overall I think this, plus the history of the ocaml program's > name, does demonstrate that the ocaml program's claim to the overall > software name `dune', and the command name `dune' is incredibly weak. > > I just checked and `odune' seems to be

Re: Bug#915050: (gitlab) Re: Bug#915050: Keep out of testing

2018-12-18 Thread Thorsten Glaser
On Wed, 19 Dec 2018, Dmitry Smirnov wrote: > trust - a something we can only have in backports-like "volatile" repo. Did you mean: in an unstable-like “volatile” repo? Backports have a defined mission, which has nothing to do with the “volatile” proposal. What you were referring to, integration-

Re: Bug#915050: (gitlab) Re: Bug#915050: Keep out of testing

2018-12-18 Thread Dmitry Smirnov
On Wednesday, 19 December 2018 9:17:51 AM AEDT Thorsten Glaser wrote: > Did you mean: in an unstable-like “volatile” repo? Yes perhaps more like "unstable". I'm saying that IMHO we should have only one common/shared "PPA" for "stable" users. I do not want many personal/individual archives. > Ba

Re: Bug#915050: (gitlab) Re: Bug#915050: Keep out of testing

2018-12-18 Thread Dmitry Smirnov
On Wednesday, 19 December 2018 2:11:43 AM AEDT Holger Levsen wrote: > instead of volatile we need PPAs. I think concept of "volatile" is better, stronger. PPA allows people to ship whatever they want without cooperating in policy compliant (official) repo. This is the Debian way where many people

Re: Bug#915050: (gitlab) Re: Bug#915050: Keep out of testing

2018-12-18 Thread Dominik George
>> We had volatile, which, redefined properly, could help. I am trying >to draft such a definition. > >Did you get a chance to work on it? I do have this on my todo list for around Christmas. People who know me that I deliberately leave out the year, but my intentions are 2018 ;). -nik

Re: Bug#915050: (gitlab) Re: Bug#915050: Keep out of testing

2018-12-18 Thread Pirate Praveen
On 12/19/18 1:05 AM, Philipp Kern wrote: > In the Ubuntu PPA case you get free reign over what's in that archive > and what you backport as part of offering the package. Obviously this > might conflict with the existing set. But the same is true for a > centralized volatile archive if you need to b