Re: Debian Buster release to partially drop non-systemd support

2018-10-22 Thread Thomas Goirand
On 10/19/18 12:25 PM, Bastian Blank wrote: > On Fri, Oct 19, 2018 at 11:35:54AM +0200, Martin Steigerwald wrote: >> So Devuan almost doubles the percentage of sysvinit-core installations. > > Devuan is _not_ Debian. They forked it They *claimed* it was a fork, though in reality Devuan is just y

Re: no{thing} build profiles

2018-10-22 Thread Jonathan Dowland
On Sun, Oct 21, 2018 at 10:00:43PM +, Ivan Shmakov wrote: It can be argued that libgpgme11 does not “provide a significant amount of functionality” (7.2) without gnupg. It won't function at all without gnupg. However, and it seems to be a common practice in Debian, for a shared library pa

Re: tinysshd dependency on systemd

2018-10-22 Thread Jonathan Dowland
On Sun, Oct 21, 2018 at 09:57:45PM +, Ivan Shmakov wrote: I disagree; to the best of my knowledge, anyone can do the testing and suggest any fixes he or she deems necessary. As such, having an issue recorded in the BTS is preferable to not having it recorded, and having a (semi-correct)

Re: no{thing} build profiles

2018-10-22 Thread Ivan Shmakov
> Jonathan Dowland writes: > On Sun, Oct 21, 2018 at 10:00:43PM +, Ivan Shmakov wrote: >> It can be argued that libgpgme11 does not “provide a significant >> amount of functionality” (7.2) without gnupg. > It won’t function at all without gnupg. As I’ve said before, havin

Re: tinysshd dependency on systemd

2018-10-22 Thread Ivan Shmakov
> Jonathan Dowland writes: > On Sun, Oct 21, 2018 at 09:57:45PM +, Ivan Shmakov wrote: >> I disagree; to the best of my knowledge, anyone can do the testing >> and suggest any fixes he or she deems necessary. As such, having an >> issue recorded in the BTS is preferable to not hav

Package deb with shared library

2018-10-22 Thread Damir Porobic
Hi All, I was not sure to which Mailing list my question belongs so I'm writing here, if I should use a different list, let me know. Currently I'm trying to create a .deb package for my Application and I'm kind of stuck with packaging a shared library that I use. The shared library is not av

Re: Fw: Mail delivery failed: returning message to sender ( cdvendors@d.o )

2018-10-22 Thread Mattia Rizzolo
Package: www.debian.org Control: submitter -1 Holger Wansing On Sun, Oct 21, 2018 at 11:01:31AM +0200, Holger Wansing wrote: > Hi, > > apparently the two addresses below (spaillard and atterer) are included in > the cdvendors@d.o alias. > Please remove them, since they are no longer existing. T

Re: Package deb with shared library

2018-10-22 Thread Mo Zhou
Hi Damir, On Mon, Oct 22, 2018 at 10:36:12AM +, Damir Porobic wrote: > I was not sure to which Mailing list my question belongs so I'm writing here, > if I should use a different list, let me know. According to the content of your mail I think debian-u...@lists.debian.org is a more proper pl

Bug#911608: ITP: haskell-resolv -- Domain Name Service (DNS) lookup via libresolv

2018-10-22 Thread Ilias Tsitsimpis
Package: wnpp Severity: wishlist Owner: Ilias Tsitsimpis * Package name: haskell-resolv Version : 0.1.1.1 Upstream Author : Herbert Valerio Riedel * URL : https://hackage.haskell.org/package/resolv * License : GPL-3+ Programming Lang: Haskell Description

Re: RFC: Naming convention for ILP64 variant of BLAS/LAPACK

2018-10-22 Thread Mo Zhou
Hi Wookey and Bastian, On Sun, Oct 21, 2018 at 06:51:16PM +0100, Wookey wrote: > On 2018-10-21 17:16 +0200, Bastian Blank wrote: > > Hi > > > > On Sun, Oct 21, 2018 at 09:51:15AM +, Mo Zhou wrote: > > > about naming convention of SONAME and package name. > > > > > > As discussed in [1][2][3]

Re: Package deb with shared library

2018-10-22 Thread Damir Porobic
Hi Mo, Thanks for the feedback, I will write on debian-u...@lists.debian.org. > I don't know what "public repo" mean. If you meant to create debian > package that installs stuff under /usr/local , then there is no any > example from Debian's official archive at all. Well, I mean you can't inst

Re: no{thing} build profiles

2018-10-22 Thread Marvin Renich
* Matthias Klumpp [181021 14:04]: > libgpgme is communicating with gnupg in the background - having > libgpgme without gnupg itself will render the library completely > unusable and break existing users of the library. This keeps getting repeated in this thread in spite of the fact that multiple

Re: RFC: Naming convention for ILP64 variant of BLAS/LAPACK

2018-10-22 Thread Ben Hutchings
On Mon, 2018-10-22 at 15:07 +, Mo Zhou wrote: > Hi Wookey and Bastian, > > On Sun, Oct 21, 2018 at 06:51:16PM +0100, Wookey wrote: > > On 2018-10-21 17:16 +0200, Bastian Blank wrote: > > > Hi > > > > > > On Sun, Oct 21, 2018 at 09:51:15AM +, Mo Zhou wrote: > > > > about naming convention

Re: no{thing} build profiles

2018-10-22 Thread Adam Borowski
On Mon, Oct 22, 2018 at 11:32:21AM -0400, Marvin Renich wrote: > * Matthias Klumpp [181021 14:04]: > > libgpgme is communicating with gnupg in the background - having > > libgpgme without gnupg itself will render the library completely > > unusable and break existing users of the library. > > Thi

Re: RFC: Naming convention for ILP64 variant of BLAS/LAPACK

2018-10-22 Thread Simon McVittie
On Mon, 22 Oct 2018 at 18:17:32 +0100, Ben Hutchings wrote: > On Mon, 2018-10-22 at 15:07 +, Mo Zhou wrote: > > Here are some references: > > > > 1. > > https://software.intel.com/en-us/mkl-linux-developer-guide-using-the-ilp64-interface-vs-lp64-interface > > > >The Intel MKL ILP64 libra

Re: RFC: Naming convention for ILP64 variant of BLAS/LAPACK

2018-10-22 Thread James Clarke
On 22 Oct 2018, at 18:17, Ben Hutchings wrote: > On Mon, 2018-10-22 at 15:07 +, Mo Zhou wrote: >> Hi Wookey and Bastian, >> >> On Sun, Oct 21, 2018 at 06:51:16PM +0100, Wookey wrote: >>> On 2018-10-21 17:16 +0200, Bastian Blank wrote: Hi On Sun, Oct 21, 2018 at 09:51:15AM +000

Re: RFC: Naming convention for ILP64 variant of BLAS/LAPACK

2018-10-22 Thread Sébastien Villemot
Le lundi 22 octobre 2018 à 18:38 +0100, Simon McVittie a écrit : > On Mon, 22 Oct 2018 at 18:17:32 +0100, Ben Hutchings wrote: > > On Mon, 2018-10-22 at 15:07 +, Mo Zhou wrote: > > > Here are some references: > > > > > > 1. > > > https://software.intel.com/en-us/mkl-linux-developer-guide-usin

Re: RFC: Naming convention for ILP64 variant of BLAS/LAPACK

2018-10-22 Thread Bastian Blank
On Mon, Oct 22, 2018 at 07:55:10PM +0200, Sébastien Villemot wrote: > For BLAS/LAPACK implementations implemented in C, like OpenBLAS, they > will be compiled using LP64, and not ILP64. Only integers exposed > through the interface will be affected, through the use of appropriate > types. So you c

Re: no{thing} build profiles

2018-10-22 Thread Matthias Klumpp
Am Mo., 22. Okt. 2018 um 17:32 Uhr schrieb Marvin Renich : > > * Matthias Klumpp [181021 14:04]: > > libgpgme is communicating with gnupg in the background - having > > libgpgme without gnupg itself will render the library completely > > unusable and break existing users of the library. > > This k

Re: RFC: Naming convention for ILP64 variant of BLAS/LAPACK

2018-10-22 Thread Drew Parsons
On 2018-10-22 23:07, Mo Zhou wrote: Are any other packages likely to start wanting to use ILP64 ABIs? I guess it's very much an 'HPC' sort of thing at the moment. So yeah, some clarification in order I think, and an explanation of use-cases. HPC is indeed a related use case. I don't know a

Re: RFC: Naming convention for ILP64 variant of BLAS/LAPACK

2018-10-22 Thread Florian Weimer
* Mo Zhou: > Proposal: > > * The "-ilp64" postfix should be appended to the SONAME of all the new > shared objects that provide ILP64 interface. For example: > > libblas.so.3 (LP64) -> libblas-ilp64.so.3 (ILP64) > > As a result, the same postfix should be added to the binary packag

Re: no{thing} build profiles

2018-10-22 Thread Russ Allbery
Adam Borowski writes: > Thus, I'd re-propose a Policy change that was mentioned in multiple > threads in the past: > "A runtime library should not Depend: or Recommend: on any packages than > other libraries or dormant data, unless the library or its programming > language provides a convenient

Re: no{thing} build profiles

2018-10-22 Thread Adam Borowski
On Mon, Oct 22, 2018 at 01:22:12PM -0700, Russ Allbery wrote: > Adam Borowski writes: > > > Thus, I'd re-propose a Policy change that was mentioned in multiple > > threads in the past: > > > "A runtime library should not Depend: or Recommend: on any packages than > > other libraries or dormant d

Re: announcing backport script designed to reduce potential human errors

2018-10-22 Thread Nicholas D Steeves
Fixed debian-de...@debian.org -> debian-devel@lists.debian.org so that people who reply won't have to do this to avoid bounced emails. Sorry for the mistake! Hi James, On Mon, Oct 22, 2018 at 07:16:51PM -0400, James McCoy wrote: > On Mon, Oct 22, 2018 at 05:33:06PM -0400, Nicholas D Steeves wrot

Re: announcing backport script designed to reduce potential human errors

2018-10-22 Thread Paul Wise
On Tue, Oct 23, 2018 at 8:10 AM Nicholas D Steeves wrote: > In terms of "big project" ideas, I think it would be neat if there was > a tool that integrated the pkg_from_testing->no_change_bpo > transformation, my tool, and also "Rebuild all the Things" (Sean > Whitton told me about this tool). > >

Confusing our users - who is supporting LTS?

2018-10-22 Thread Steve McIntyre
Hi, I'm quite concerned by what I think is a user perception problem around LTS. When the LTS project started up, discussions made it clear that existing maintainers and teams were *encouraged* but not *required* to help with the LTS effort. Paid effort would be used to help fill in for security s

Re: Confusing our users - who is supporting LTS?

2018-10-22 Thread Craig Small
I've seen this sort of thing done elsewhere and the way they did it was to put a large amount of separation between the two. So the main site only mentioned the old releases in a historical context and pointed to a separate website which did the LTS. Any page for the older versions had a prominent