Paul Wise writes:
> On Fri, Oct 19, 2018 at 7:30 PM Martin Steigerwald wrote:
>> As long as people choose to strip of dependencies to libsystemd from
>> packages like util-linux, avoiding a fork would not work with how Debian
>> and Debian based distributions are built.
>
> It might be feasible to
Bastian Blank wrote:
On Fri, Oct 19, 2018 at 11:35:54AM +0200, Martin Steigerwald wrote:
> So Devuan almost doubles the percentage of sysvinit-core installations.
Devuan is _not_ Debian. They forked it, with the full knowledge that
they might have to do all the work to support their choices.
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Does "Debian uses Systemd by default" mean "Debian is married with
Systemd forever"?
Should Debian exclude other desktop environments but Gnome, because
Gnome shell is the default one? Then drop Qt and Wx compatibility?
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Am 20.10.18 um 03:50 schrieb Chris Knadle:
> Jonas Meurer:
>> * Adding backports to my sources.list doesn't automatically pull any
>> packages from there. I have to choose particular packages in a manual
>> process in order to install them from backports. That's different for
>> repositories
Ansgar Burchardt writes:
> Should Debian also support "noalsa", "noavahi", "nocups",
> "nopulseaudio", "nosysvinit", "nodbus", "nopam", "nowayland",
Are alsa, avahi, cups, pulseaudio, sysvinit, dbus, pam and wayland all
similar in scope to systemd? If not, then this question is a strawman.
Best
Well, either you want old stable or bleeding edge. And with web technologies
it’s usually the bleeding edge type of people. It would take a full time job to
create all the variants, and I do this mostly in my free time.
As for reproducible builds - that’s the next thing on my list, it seems that
On Sat, Oct 20, 2018 at 06:54:07PM +0200, Arne Babenhauserheide wrote:
> Ansgar Burchardt writes:
> > Should Debian also support "noalsa", "noavahi", "nocups",
> > "nopulseaudio", "nosysvinit", "nodbus", "nopam", "nowayland",
> Are alsa, avahi, cups, pulseaudio, sysvinit, dbus, pam and wayland all
On Sat, Oct 20, 2018 at 06:54:07PM +0200, Arne Babenhauserheide wrote:
> > Should Debian also support "noalsa", "noavahi", "nocups",
> > "nopulseaudio", "nosysvinit", "nodbus", "nopam", "nowayland",
>
> Are alsa, avahi, cups, pulseaudio, sysvinit, dbus, pam and wayland all
> similar in scope to sy
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> Bastian Blank writes:
> On Sat, Oct 20, 2018 at 06:54:07PM +0200, Arne Babenhauserheide wrote:
> Ansgar Burchardt writes:
>>> Should Debian also support “noalsa”, “noavahi”, “nocups”,
>>> “nopulseaudio”, “nosysvinit”, “nodbus”, “nopam”, “nowayland”,
So long as there’s su
On Sat, Oct 20, 2018 at 06:37:20PM +, Ivan Shmakov wrote:
> Now, unless I be mistaken, “build profiles,” as suggested in
> this subthread, are meant to allow for building packages with
> specific changes to their run-time library dependencies?
> Frankly, I don’t see much
On Oct 20, Paul Wise wrote:
> It might be feasible to introduce nosystemd build profiles to Debian
> source packages and then create a shed/bikeshed/PPA (once that
> infrastructure exists) that contains rebuilds using that build
> profile. That would allow Devuan's libsystemd stripping to be
> co
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