Re: Updating the policy for conflicting binaries names ? [was: Re: Re: New package netgen-lvs with binary /usr/bin/netgen - already taken]

2018-09-09 Thread Sune Vuorela
On 2018-09-08, Sylvestre Ledru wrote: >> Two different packages must not install programs with different >> functionality but with the same filenames. >> > I think the policy should be changed. > It was possible to accommodate that when the archive was a few thousand > packages. > Or am

Re: Updating the policy for conflicting binaries names ? [was: Re: Re: New package netgen-lvs with binary /usr/bin/netgen - already taken]

2018-09-09 Thread Paride Legovini
Russ Allbery wrote on 09/09/2018: > Paride Legovini writes: > >> However, there are clearly cases where renaming binaries makes several >> people unhappy (most likely: the package maintainers, upstream, people >> writing scripts, users of different distributions), while not making a >> single use

Re: Updating the policy for conflicting binaries names ? [was: Re: Re: New package netgen-lvs with binary /usr/bin/netgen - already taken]

2018-09-09 Thread Marco d'Itri
On Sep 08, Sean Whitton wrote: > The current policy protects maintainers and users of less popular > packages from feeling that their package is less important in Debian, > just because something else that is more popular comes along and happens > to use the same name. Yes, and the I do not think

Re: Updating the policy for conflicting binaries names ? [was: Re: Re: New package netgen-lvs with binary /usr/bin/netgen - already taken]

2018-09-09 Thread Michael Stone
On Sat, Sep 08, 2018 at 08:18:10PM +0200, Sylvestre Ledru wrote: For example, in the Rust team, we have been discussing about packaging fd (a find alternative developed using rust [1]). We are planning to install it in /usr/bin/fd .. but this conflicts with something completely different, fdclo

Re: Updating the policy for conflicting binaries names ? [was: Re: Re: New package netgen-lvs with binary /usr/bin/netgen - already taken]

2018-09-09 Thread Russ Allbery
Paride Legovini writes: > It would certainly work, but as you say it is still irritating. I like > the idea of putting the binaries in a different directory *and* > providing a "name compatibility package", as it has been already > suggested. This package would provide the symlinks in /usr/bin an

Re: Updating the policy for conflicting binaries names ? [was: Re: Re: New package netgen-lvs with binary /usr/bin/netgen - already taken]

2018-09-09 Thread Paride Legovini
Russ Allbery wrote on 09/09/2018: > Oh, hm, yes, I rather like this idea too, particularly combined with > putting those symlink packages in their own namespace (and maybe their > own > section). Totally makes sense. > Maybe this is overkill for the relatively small number of these packages > we

Re: Updating the policy for conflicting binaries names ? [was: Re: Re: New package netgen-lvs with binary /usr/bin/netgen - already taken]

2018-09-09 Thread Ian Jackson
Sean Whitton writes ("Re: Updating the policy for conflicting binaries names ? [was: Re: Re: New package netgen-lvs with binary /usr/bin/netgen - already taken]"): > The current policy means that the discussion about which package should > use the name begins on neutral ground, without prejudice

Re: Updating the policy for conflicting binaries names ? [was: Re: Re: New package netgen-lvs with binary /usr/bin/netgen - already taken]

2018-09-09 Thread Ian Jackson
Paride Legovini writes ("Re: Updating the policy for conflicting binaries names ? [was: Re: Re: New package netgen-lvs with binary /usr/bin/netgen - already taken]"): > It would certainly work, but as you say it is still irritating. I like > the idea of putting the binaries in a different directo

Re: Updating the policy for conflicting binaries names ? [was: Re: Re: New package netgen-lvs with binary /usr/bin/netgen - already taken]

2018-09-09 Thread Ian Jackson
Marco d'Itri writes ("Re: Updating the policy for conflicting binaries names ? [was: Re: Re: New package netgen-lvs with binary /usr/bin/netgen - already taken]"): > On Sep 08, Sean Whitton wrote: > > The current policy protects maintainers and users of less popular > > packages from feeling tha

Re: Updating the policy for conflicting binaries names ? [was: Re: Re: New package netgen-lvs with binary /usr/bin/netgen - already taken]

2018-09-09 Thread Vincent Bernat
❦ 9 septembre 2018 21:53 +0100, Ian Jackson : >> The current policy maximizes discomfort for all parts involved in the >> name of creating equality where it does not actually exist, and this >> does not help anybody. > > I think it did create equality in that the inconvenience for each > maint

Re: Browserified copy and DFSG

2018-09-09 Thread Michael Hudson-Doyle
On Sun, 9 Sep 2018 at 04:52, Sean Whitton wrote: > Hello, > > On Sat 08 Sep 2018 at 10:02AM +0800, Paul Wise wrote: > > > On Fri, Sep 7, 2018 at 7:22 PM, Bastien ROUCARIES wrote: > > > >> Ok adding cc @security > >> > >> How will you handle security problem in static > >> (browserified/webpacked)

Re: Browserified copy and DFSG

2018-09-09 Thread Sean Whitton
Hello, On Mon 10 Sep 2018 at 11:00AM +1200, Michael Hudson-Doyle wrote: > I actually implemented something like this for Go in Ubuntu when we were > looking at building Go shared libraries but we gave up on that whole > approach (because even minor releases of Go upstream tend to break ABI and >

Re: Updating the policy for conflicting binaries names ? [was: Re: Re: New package netgen-lvs with binary /usr/bin/netgen - already taken]

2018-09-09 Thread Scott Kitterman
On September 9, 2018 9:36:01 PM UTC, Vincent Bernat wrote: >❦ 9 septembre 2018 21:53 +0100, Ian Jackson >: > >>> The current policy maximizes discomfort for all parts involved in >the >>> name of creating equality where it does not actually exist, and this > >>> does not help anybody. >> >> I

Re: Let's start salvaging packages! -- disucssion phase closing soon.

2018-09-09 Thread Tobias Frost
Hi, Merge-request for developers-reference is now available: https://salsa.debian.org/debian/developers-reference/merge_requests/5 Kudos to all who helped me making this possible! -- tobi signature.asc Description: PGP signature