Scott Kitterman writes:
> Personally, I think people should be more annoyed at the people doing
> the hijacking than the one they did it to.
I thought this is called "salvage" now?
There might have been some miscommunications, but given an acceptable
alternative is just requesting the removal of
On April 16, 2018 7:10:34 AM UTC, Ansgar Burchardt wrote:
>Scott Kitterman writes:
>> Personally, I think people should be more annoyed at the people doing
>> the hijacking than the one they did it to.
>
>I thought this is called "salvage" now?
>
>There might have been some miscommunications, bu
On 16.04.2018 14:28, Tobias Frost wrote:
> On Mon, Apr 16, 2018 at 08:28:08AM +0800, Rolf Leggewie wrote:
>> https://anonscm.debian.org/gitweb/?p=collab-maint/gjots2.git
> You know that collab-maint stands for "Collaborative Maintaince"?
>
> IMHO by placing it into collab-maint, everyone is allowe
Hi,
On Mon, Apr 16, 2018 at 09:10:34AM +0200, Ansgar Burchardt wrote:
> Scott Kitterman writes:
> > Personally, I think people should be more annoyed at the people doing
> > the hijacking than the one they did it to.
>
> I thought this is called "salvage" now?
I remember that this discussion com
On Mon, Apr 16, 2018 at 07:34:34AM +, Scott Kitterman wrote:
> On April 16, 2018 7:10:34 AM UTC, Ansgar Burchardt wrote:
> >Scott Kitterman writes:
> >> Personally, I think people should be more annoyed at the people doing
> >> the hijacking than the one they did it to.
> >
> >I thought this is
在 2018年4月16日星期一 CST 下午3:43:10，Andreas Tille 写道：
> I remember that this discussion comes up quite regularly (no statistic
> but to my feeling once a year). I'd love if we could give fix rules to
> the process of salvaging a package (or am I missing that this was just
> done). I think the precondit
Am 16. April 2018 09:43:10 MESZ schrieb Andreas Tille :
>Hi,
>
>On Mon, Apr 16, 2018 at 09:10:34AM +0200, Ansgar Burchardt wrote:
>> Scott Kitterman writes:
>> > Personally, I think people should be more annoyed at the people
>doing
>> > the hijacking than the one they did it to.
>>
>> I thought t
Hello,
Paul Wise, le lun. 16 avril 2018 10:05:52 +0800, a ecrit:
> On Mon, Apr 16, 2018 at 6:20 AM, MENGUAL Jean-Philippe wrote:
> > For example, adding a tag to mention if some package is or not
> > accessible would be a good idea.
>
> There is already an accessibility facet, but it covers tools
On 2018-04-16 10:11, Boyuan Yang wrote:
I would suggest we exclude NMUs from "No uploads for > 365 days"
requirement.
The person who want to salvage the package probably should also wait
for two
weeks after initial public contact, then send another public email,
wait for
another two weeks, se
Hi Helmut,
On Sun, Apr 15, 2018 at 09:27:30PM +0200, Helmut Grohne wrote:
> > For more information: https://wiki.debian.org/Python/LibraryStyleGuide
>
> Note that autopkgtest-pkg-python is only applicable when the module name
> matches the package name. That's true for the majority of packages, b
Hi,
2018-04-16 11:47 GMT+02:00 Andreas Tille :
>
> W: python-csb source: unnecessary-testsuite-autopkgtest-field
> ...
> So before doing a MBF "Missing Testsuite: autopkgtest-pkg-python"
> this should be checked as well.
>
already done in git.
--
Best regards
Ondřej Nový
Email: n...@ondrej.or
Hi,
2018-04-16 11:56 GMT+02:00 Ondrej Novy :
> already done in git.
>
sry. I only removed useless Testsuite: autopkgtest-pkg in git.
Checking if d/tests already exists before adding autopkgtest-pkg-python is
really important. You can add autopkgtest-pkg-python even if there is
d/tests, but you
Hi,
2018-04-15 21:32 GMT+02:00 Mattia Rizzolo :
> On Sun, Apr 15, 2018 at 09:27:30PM +0200, Helmut Grohne wrote:
> > Note that autopkgtest-pkg-python is only applicable when the module name
> > matches the package name. That's true for the majority of packages, but
> > not for all (e.g. capitaliz
Hi,
2018-04-15 21:27 GMT+02:00 Helmut Grohne :
> Note that autopkgtest-pkg-python is only applicable when the module name
> matches the package name. That's true for the majority of packages, but
> not for all (e.g. capitalization). Nevertheless, a lot of packages are
> missing the flag. Since I
Hi Ondrej,
On Mon, Apr 16, 2018 at 11:58:17AM +0200, Ondrej Novy wrote:
>
> sry. I only removed useless Testsuite: autopkgtest-pkg in git.
>
> Checking if d/tests already exists before adding autopkgtest-pkg-python is
> really important. You can add autopkgtest-pkg-python even if there is
> d/te
* Dominic Hargreaves: " Completed: lists.alioth.debian.org migration" (Sat, 14
Apr 2018 13:11:56 +0100):
> On Fri, Apr 13, 2018 at 06:02:37PM +0100, Dominic Hargreaves wrote[1]:
...
> Thanks
> --
>
> Thanks to the following for their help and support with this process!
>
> * Alexander Wirt
[Helmut Grohne, 2018-04-15]
> Piotr Ożarowski
>python-changelog (U)
>python-sphinx-paramlinks (U)
>python3-changelog (U)
>python3-sphinx-paramlinks (U)
These packages provide sphinx plugins and have Enhances: python{,3}-sphinx
Missing module is available after installing python{,3
Am Montag, den 16.04.2018, 09:58 +0200 schrieb Tobias Frost:
>
> Was mentioned on the salvaging packages BoF at Montreal:
> https://lists.debian.org/debian-devel/2012/09/msg00654.html
>
Indeed, and I think one of the key points in that proposalo is that the
last upload was an NMU - and as far a
Rolf,
first of all, you immediatly lost your argument by putting peoples name
in the subject of a mail to debian-devel. This is really bad style
(called fingerpointing) and I wish you hadn't done this. Based on this
behaviour alone, I wouldnt recommend *you* becoming a DD or DM, at least
not now.
On Mon, Apr 16, 2018 at 08:28:08AM +0800, Rolf Leggewie wrote:
They might want to argue that gjots2 was poorly maintained and hasn't
seen an upload to unstable for years. That still would not give them
reason to do what they did. In fact, I have always taken my
responsibilities seriously. Ther
On Mon, Apr 16, 2018 at 7:56 AM, Gert Wollny wrote:
> So IMO, the right appoach for Lucas Kanashiro and Athos Ribeiro would
> have been to do a NMU with the usual delay
The Debian Developer's Reference says that a 0-day NMU is appropriate
for an RC bug older than 7 days with no developer response
Package: wnpp
Severity: wishlist
Owner: Paride Legovini
* Package name: snore
Version : 0.1
Upstream Author : Claudio Alessi
* URL : https://github.com/clamiax/snore/
* License : Expat
Programming Lang: C
Description : sleep with feedback
This tool is
Jeremy Bicha writes:
> On Mon, Apr 16, 2018 at 7:56 AM, Gert Wollny wrote:
>> So IMO, the right appoach for Lucas Kanashiro and Athos Ribeiro would
>> have been to do a NMU with the usual delay
> The Debian Developer's Reference says that a 0-day NMU is appropriate
> for an RC bug older than 7
On Mon, 2018-04-16 at 09:00 -0700, Russ Allbery wrote:
> Fixing the package when it was removed from testing with RC bugs seems
> entirely reasonable. What bothers me is just adding onself as
> comaintainer without any discussion, and thus making that upload not an
> NMU.
>
> By all means NMU to
Package: wnpp
Severity: wishlist
Owner: Joel Cross
* Package name: python-dataclasses
Version : 0.5
Upstream Author : Eric V. Smith
* URL : https://github.com/ericvsmith/dataclasses
* License : MIT
Programming Lang: Python
Description : Python dataclas
On Mon, Apr 16, 2018 at 03:29:32PM +0800, Rolf Leggewie wrote:
> On 16.04.2018 14:28, Tobias Frost wrote:
>
> > On Mon, Apr 16, 2018 at 08:28:08AM +0800, Rolf Leggewie wrote:
> >> https://anonscm.debian.org/gitweb/?p=collab-maint/gjots2.git
> > You know that collab-maint stands for "Collaborative
Hello Nobuhiro Iwamatsu,
On Fri, Apr 13, 2018 at 12:57:46PM +0900, Nobuhiro Iwamatsu wrote:
[...]
> * Package name: ell
> Version : 0.4
[...]
Out of interest (and since I'm not aware of any other users of ell than
iwd), may I ask what your motivation is for packaging ell?
FYI I've
On Monday, April 16, 2018 06:47:04 PM Tobias Frost wrote:
> On Mon, Apr 16, 2018 at 03:29:32PM +0800, Rolf Leggewie wrote:
> > On 16.04.2018 14:28, Tobias Frost wrote:
> > > On Mon, Apr 16, 2018 at 08:28:08AM +0800, Rolf Leggewie wrote:
> > >> https://anonscm.debian.org/gitweb/?p=collab-maint/gjots
On Mon, Apr 16, 2018 at 06:47:04PM +0200, Tobias Frost wrote:
> Collab-maint is
> like a big team (with everyone being member)
Citation needed.
There is no such thing as collab-maint anywhere except the alioth
namespace.
> If you were right, what exactly would be the difference between collab-mai
Hi,
Quoting Adam Borowski (2018-04-15 22:30:47)
> On Sun, Apr 15, 2018 at 09:45:45PM +0200, Helmut Grohne wrote:
> > On Sun, Apr 15, 2018 at 09:38:27PM +0200, Christoph Biedl wrote:
> > > The src:file package doesn't ship python{,3}-magic any longer, the change
> > > was two months ago. Mind to ch
Tobias Frost wrote:
> On Mon, Apr 16, 2018 at 08:28:08AM +0800, Rolf Leggewie wrote:
>> https://anonscm.debian.org/gitweb/?p=collab-maint/gjots2.git
> You know that collab-maint stands for "Collaborative Maintaince"?
> IMHO by placing it into collab-maint, everyone is allowed / suggested
> to wo
On Mon, 16 Apr 2018 20:06:21 +0200
Andreas Metzler wrote:
>The fact that *technically* every DM has write permission on the repo
>does not make committing permitted. There is just no technical barrier,
>only the social one.
IMHO nearly every party involved into this conflict is right and wro
Hi,
Em 15-04-2018 15:56, Helmut Grohne escreveu:
> Hi,
>
> I was surprised to find a python module that failed to import thinking
> that our qa would catch this. So I wondered how many other python
> modules would fail to import and started a little yak shaving journey.
>
> It turns that this ha
On Mon, 16 Apr 2018 at 16:14:21 -0300, Herbert Fortes wrote:
> Package python3-dj-static is on the dd-list. But I can import it.
...
> The package name uses '-' and the module '_'.
I think this is a false positive in the preparation of the dd-list.
/usr/share/autodep8/support/python/generate corre
On Mon, Apr 16, 2018 at 01:44:48PM +0200, Piotr Ożarowski wrote:
> [Helmut Grohne, 2018-04-15]
> > Piotr Ożarowski
> >python-changelog (U)
> >python-sphinx-paramlinks (U)
> >python3-changelog (U)
> >python3-sphinx-paramlinks (U)
>
> These packages provide sphinx plugins and have E
On Mon, Apr 16, 2018 at 04:14:21PM -0300, Herbert Fortes wrote:
> Package python3-dj-static is on the dd-list. But I can import it.
>
> # on a bananapi
>
> $ python3
> Python 3.5.3 (default, Jan 19 2017, 14:11:04)
> [GCC 6.3.0 20170124] on linux
> Type "help", "copyright", "credits" or "license"
Hi
On 16-04-18 12:03, Ondrej Novy wrote:
> I think it's good idea to mass commit this (adding Testsuite:
> autopkgtest-pkg-python) into Git repos. We should probably merge this
> list with Debian CI whitelist one.
I assume you mean you want to mass commit the packages that are
currently on the wh
On Mon, Apr 16, 2018 at 09:10:34AM +0200, Ansgar Burchardt wrote:
> Scott Kitterman writes:
> > Personally, I think people should be more annoyed at the people doing
> > the hijacking than the one they did it to.
> I thought this is called "salvage" now?
I believe I was the one who originated the
Hi Andreas,
On Mon, Apr 16, 2018 at 09:43:10AM +0200, Andreas Tille wrote:
> I remember that this discussion comes up quite regularly (no statistic
> but to my feeling once a year). I'd love if we could give fix rules to
> the process of salvaging a package (or am I missing that this was just
> d
Hi,
On 04/15/2018 09:28 PM, Rolf Leggewie wrote:
> Dear fellow maintainers, dear Lucas and Atheros,
>
> I'd like to use this opportunity to relay my experiences with Lucas
> Kanashiro (kanash...@debian.org) and Athos Ribeiro
> (athoscribe...@gmail.com). TL;DR Going purely by my "interaction" or
>
On Mon, Apr 16, 2018 at 12:00:24PM +0200, Ondrej Novy wrote:
> I tried to do my best :)
>
> https://sources.debian.org/src/autodep8/0.11.1/support/python/generate/
>
> Feel free to add more "magic" for module name detection.
There is an easy improvement and a difficult one I can propose.
The ea
On 04/16/2018 08:00 AM, Geert Stappers wrote:
> Facts from
> https://tracker.debian.org/news/949699/accepted-gjots2-241-4-source-all-into-unstable/
> gjots2 (2.4.1-4) unstable; urgency=medium
> .
>* revert the package hijack in 2.4.1-3 by
> Athos Ribeiro
> Lucas Kanashiro
>
On Mon, Apr 16, 2018 at 08:28:08AM +0800, Rolf Leggewie wrote:
> They might want to argue that gjots2 was poorly maintained and hasn't
> seen an upload to unstable for years. That still would not give them
> reason to do what they did. In fact, I have always taken my
> responsibilities seriously.
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Lucas Kanashiro writes ("Re: Lucas Kanashiro and Athos Ribeiro hijack my
package"):
> [stuff]
Thank you for this grown-up email.
Ian.
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On Tue, Apr 17, 2018 at 5:00 AM, Helmut Grohne wrote:
> The difficult one is deriving the module name from the list of files.
It should be just reading top_level.txt from the egg-info directory?
--
bye,
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https://wiki.debian.org/PaulWise
On Mon, 2018-04-16 at 10:15 +0200, Samuel Thibault wrote:
> Well, https://bugs.debian.org/cgi-bin/bugreport.cgi?bug=855446
accessible-via seems different to what I propose.
accessible-via references software that makes each package accessible.
The proposed accessible-to would reference classes
On Tuesday, April 17, 2018 10:45:29 AM Paul Wise wrote:
> On Tue, Apr 17, 2018 at 5:00 AM, Helmut Grohne wrote:
> > The difficult one is deriving the module name from the list of files.
>
> It should be just reading top_level.txt from the egg-info directory?
For packages that use setuptools, whic
Dear Lucas,
thank you for your mail to the list and thank you very much for your
efforts at MiniDebConf as well as maintaining and sponsoring packages as
a DD, and all the other things I am not aware of. We share a common
goal and vision.
I am happy you and Athos want to contribute to Debian. M
On Tue, Apr 17, 2018 at 01:02:37PM +0800, Rolf Leggewie wrote:
>[ more fighting ]
> Now, let me ponder on what I can do better...
Work on the package
Work together on the package
Groeten
Geert Stappers
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