Re: Auto-update for sid? Auto-backport?

2017-11-16 Thread Alexander Wirt
On Wed, 15 Nov 2017, Didier 'OdyX' Raboud wrote: > Le mercredi, 15 novembre 2017, 16.43:17 h CET Steffen Möller a écrit : > > I would really like to see updates performed in some automated fashion. > > Debian updates are in fact different steps: > * inclusion of upstream changes; > * packaging up

Re: Auto-update for sid? Auto-backport?

2017-11-16 Thread Andreas Tille
On Wed, Nov 15, 2017 at 10:10:59AM -0800, Russ Allbery wrote: > > Distribution packages generated by upstream are usually horrible unless > upstream is deeply involved in that distribution community. From the > perspective of an experienced packager for that distribution, they are > usually way b

Re: Auto-update for sid? Auto-backport?

2017-11-16 Thread Wouter Verhelst
On Thu, Nov 16, 2017 at 04:41:18PM +0100, Andreas Tille wrote: > On Wed, Nov 15, 2017 at 10:10:59AM -0800, Russ Allbery wrote: > > > > Distribution packages generated by upstream are usually horrible unless > > upstream is deeply involved in that distribution community. From the > > perspective o

Re: Auto-update for sid? Auto-backport?

2017-11-16 Thread Ian Jackson
Wouter Verhelst writes ("Re: Auto-update for sid? Auto-backport?"): > On Thu, Nov 16, 2017 at 04:41:18PM +0100, Andreas Tille wrote: > > I think Steffen's point was that all the hideousness you are talking > > about was solved in version a.b.c of the software and if version > > a.b.(c+1) builds and

Bug#881927: ITP: pspg -- PostgreSQL pager

2017-11-16 Thread Marco Nenciarini
Package: wnpp Severity: wishlist Owner: Marco Nenciarini * Package name: pspg Version : 0.5 Upstream Author : Pavel Stehule https://github.com/okbob/pspg/ * License : BSD Programming Lang: C Description : PostgreSQL pager pspg is a pager specialized for viewing qu

Re: Auto-update for sid? Auto-backport?

2017-11-16 Thread Russ Allbery
Andreas Tille writes: > I think Steffen's point was that all the hideousness you are talking > about was solved in version a.b.c of the software and if version > a.b.(c+1) builds and passes our test suite it will most probably not > have changed. Oh, yeah, to be clear, I don't have any objection

Re: Auto-update for sid? Auto-backport?

2017-11-16 Thread Wouter Verhelst
On Thu, Nov 16, 2017 at 04:29:38PM +, Ian Jackson wrote: > Wouter Verhelst writes ("Re: Auto-update for sid? Auto-backport?"): > > On Thu, Nov 16, 2017 at 04:41:18PM +0100, Andreas Tille wrote: > > > I think Steffen's point was that all the hideousness you are talking > > > about was solved in

Re: Auto-update for sid? Auto-backport?

2017-11-16 Thread Holger Levsen
On Thu, Nov 16, 2017 at 05:53:40PM +0100, Wouter Verhelst wrote: > Yes; and semver.org is a formalized system for version numbering stuff. > If upstream has committed to it (and does not make mistakes), then the c > versions in the above example MUST (in the RFC definition of that word) > only cont

Re: Auto-update for sid? Auto-backport?

2017-11-16 Thread Simon McVittie
On Thu, 16 Nov 2017 at 17:02:00 +, Holger Levsen wrote: > On Thu, Nov 16, 2017 at 05:53:40PM +0100, Wouter Verhelst wrote: > > Yes; and semver.org is a formalized system for version numbering stuff. > > If upstream has committed to it (and does not make mistakes), then the c > > versions in the

Re: Auto-update for sid? Auto-backport?

2017-11-16 Thread Jeremy Bicha
On Wed, Nov 15, 2017 at 11:03 AM, Holger Levsen wrote: > I've also heard plans (early 2017) that some people in Fedora wanted to start > doing such things, but I dont think they have started by now, though I > might be wrong on that last bit. So, clearly, there are others who also > think that thi

Re: Auto-update for sid? Auto-backport?

2017-11-16 Thread Ian Jackson
Holger Levsen writes ("Re: Auto-update for sid? Auto-backport?"): > and as others have said: the packaging part should be automated, not > the uploading part. (which means, there should be maintainer review > inbetween.) I think part of this thread is exploring the circumstances where we (well, in

Re: Auto-update for sid? Auto-backport?

2017-11-16 Thread Chris Lamb
Ian Jackson wrote: > I think it would certainly be a minority of upstreams that we (Debian) > would want to trust so thoroughly. And ones that we have comprehensive testsuites & autopkgtests too … :) Best wishes, -- ,''`. : :' : Chris Lamb `. `'` la...@debian.org / c

Re: Auto-update for sid? Auto-backport?

2017-11-16 Thread Didier 'OdyX' Raboud
Le jeudi, 16 novembre 2017, 09.03:47 h CET Alexander Wirt a écrit : > On Wed, 15 Nov 2017, Didier 'OdyX' Raboud wrote: > > Le mercredi, 15 novembre 2017, 16.43:17 h CET Steffen Möller a écrit : > > > I would really like to see updates performed in some automated fashion. > > > > Debian updates are

Bug#881943: libqt5opengl5-dev should provide libqt5opengl5-dev-full-opengl on !armel/armhf

2017-11-16 Thread Adrian Bunk
Package: libqt5opengl5-dev Version: 5.9.2+dfsg-4 Severity: normal Tags: patch Different from other architectures, on armel and armhf Qt in Debian is configured to use OpenGL ES instead of full OpenGL. Some OpenGL-related functionality in Qt is not available with OpenGL ES, and Qt also offers dire

Re: Auto-update for sid? Auto-backport?

2017-11-16 Thread Sean Whitton
Hello, On Thu, Nov 16 2017, Jeremy Bicha wrote: > On Wed, Nov 15, 2017 at 11:03 AM, Holger Levsen wrote: >> I've also heard plans (early 2017) that some people in Fedora wanted to start >> doing such things, but I dont think they have started by now, though I >> might be wrong on that last bit.

Re: Auto-update for sid? Auto-backport?

2017-11-16 Thread Holger Levsen
On Thu, Nov 16, 2017 at 03:21:37PM -0700, Sean Whitton wrote: > Wow! Thank you for sharing details of this, Jeremy. indeed! thank you. > What's > particularly nice about this is that the upload stage is still manual, > which satisfies the kind of reasons brought up by Russ and I, but a big > c

Work-needing packages report for Nov 17, 2017

2017-11-16 Thread wnpp
The following is a listing of packages for which help has been requested through the WNPP (Work-Needing and Prospective Packages) system in the last week. Total number of orphaned packages: 1176 (new: 22) Total number of packages offered up for adoption: 147 (new: 0) Total number of packages reque

Press Info - Festive Christmas Concert

2017-11-16 Thread Peter Steyrer
Press Info - Festive Christmas Concert     In time for Advent, the digital re-release of the classic highlights of 1983 "Musica Variata" Festive Christmas Concert           More info and download a promo, see the link   www.steyrer.de/promo18043.htm

Bug#881979: general: Dialogs in gnome programs blinking.

2017-11-16 Thread kirill
Package: general Severity: normal Dear Maintainer, When i'm open any gnome dialogue box (print, save, move, copy, open, etc.) black rectangle appears on screen for a short time. Then appears dialogue box. This is correct behavior? -- System Information: Debian Release: 9.2 APT prefers stable