On Tue, 2017-06-06 at 00:14 -0400, Afif Elghraoui wrote:
> I see now that python-networkx has some integration with those
> visualization libraries [1], which is not what I expected to be the
> case, though the page also says:
>
> ~~~
> NetworkX provides basic functionality for visualizing graphs,
Quoting Ghislain Vaillant (2017-06-06 10:13:55)
> On Tue, 2017-06-06 at 00:14 -0400, Afif Elghraoui wrote:
>> I see now that python-networkx has some integration with those
>> visualization libraries [1], which is not what I expected to be the
>> case, though the page also says:
>>
>> ~~~
>> Netw
jvieir...@sapo.pt wrote:
>
>In the Debian tutorials, somewhere in the Debian file system[1] page
>it states: âWhen you refer to root directory it means you talk about
>the root of the file system: â/â. This is different from the home
>directory for the root user: â/rootâ.â
>
>The
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Hey,
For a number of years, we've been linking to the amd64/i386 netinst
installer image from the front page. I think it's time to just switch
that to just an amd64 image for stretch now. The vast majority of the
machines out there are now amd64, and we're asking
On Tue, Jun 6, 2017 at 8:01 PM, Steve McIntyre wrote:
> For a number of years, we've been linking to the amd64/i386 netinst
> installer image from the front page.
Seems reasonable, perhaps with a small link for other options.
> I'm *also* tempted to switch from the netinst to the first DVD image
On 06/06/17 13:01, Steve McIntyre wrote:
> For a number of years, we've been linking to the amd64/i386 netinst
> installer image from the front page. I think it's time to just switch
> that to just an amd64 image for stretch now.
Seems sensible.
> I'm *also* tempted to switch from the netinst to
On Jun 06 2017, Steve McIntyre wrote:
> I'm *also* tempted to switch from the netinst to the first DVD image
> instead - network connections have improved a lot.
Why is that relevant? Is installing+downloading the DVD image faster
than downloading netint + installing from network?
Personally, I
On Tue, Jun 06, 2017 at 09:38:29AM -0400, Nikolaus Rath wrote:
> Personally, I would only ever download a DVD image if I was on a *slow*
> connection and knew that I had to install to multiple machines.
still then, I would rather use netinst plus a proxy…
--
cheers,
Holger
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On Mon, Jun 05, 2017 at 05:39:41PM -0700, Russ Allbery wrote:
> Maybe someone has a list of things they view as Recommends inflation that
> have (a) been reported as bugs to the appropriate package maintainers, and
> (b) have been rejected by those package maintainers? Those are the
> controversia
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On Tue, Jun 06, 2017 at 01:01:29PM +0100, Steve McIntyre wrote:
> For a number of years, we've been linking to the amd64/i386 netinst
> installer image from the front page. I think it's time to just switch
> that to just an amd64 image for stretch now. The vast majority of the
> machines out there
Quoting Adam Borowski (2017-06-06 15:55:48)
> More seriously, though, let's go through the list of 94 unsatisfied
> ones on my desktop; the list below is transposed to collate
> recommendees.
>
>
> Categories:
> OK: "Recommends:" looks warranted
> DEBATABLE: duh.
> BLOAT: potentially useful but
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Adam Borowski writes:
> More seriously, though, let's go through the list of 94 unsatisfied ones
> on my desktop; the list below is transposed to collate recommendees.
And what happens here is, I think, typical: any one person often thinks
choices of recommends make no sense, but a broader persp
On Jun 06, Steve McIntyre wrote:
> For a number of years, we've been linking to the amd64/i386 netinst
> installer image from the front page. I think it's time to just switch
> that to just an amd64 image for stretch now. The vast majority of the
> machines out there are now amd64, and we're aski
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On Tue, 06 Jun 2017 at 09:06:46 -0700, Russ Allbery wrote:
> Adam Borowski writes:
> > More seriously, though, let's go through the list of 94 unsatisfied ones
> > on my desktop; the list below is transposed to collate recommendees.
>
> And what happens here is, I think, typical: any one person o
On Tue, Jun 6, 2017 at 9:55 AM, Adam Borowski wrote:
>
> dnsmasq-base: lxc
> * BAD: how often are you on a network without a DNS server?
The dnsmasq-base "recommends" is about providing a dhcp server for
containers not a dns server.
libvirt-daemon-system has the same "recommends" for its VMs.
Simon McVittie writes:
> If there is a best set of Recommends for inexperienced users, and a
> best set of Recommends for experienced users who value minimality, then
> we should err in the direction of supporting the inexperienced users,
> precisely because those are the people least likely to b
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On Tue, Jun 06, 2017 at 09:06:46AM -0700, Russ Allbery wrote:
> Adam Borowski writes:
>
> > More seriously, though, let's go through the list of 94 unsatisfied ones
> > on my desktop; the list below is transposed to collate recommendees.
>
> And what happens here is, I think, typical: any one pe
Adam Borowski writes:
> On Tue, Jun 06, 2017 at 09:06:46AM -0700, Russ Allbery wrote:
>> And what happens here is, I think, typical: any one person often thinks
>> choices of recommends make no sense, but a broader perspective provides
>> quite a bit of justification.
> It is remarkable that out
Adam Borowski writes:
>> > dnsmasq-base: lxc
>> > * BAD: how often are you on a network without a DNS server?
>>
>> Your question here indicates to me that you've missed the point of this
>> dependency entirely. lxc uses the dnsmasq program (not service, hence
>> -base) for *DHCP* for container
On Tue, Jun 06, 2017 at 01:06:03PM -0700, Russ Allbery wrote:
> Adam Borowski writes:
> > Uhm... could you be please be a bit more civil?
>
> I apologize; you're right. I should have been more civil.
>
> I do have to also add that I found your message considerably less civil
> than how I think
Am 06.06.2017 um 18:06 schrieb Russ Allbery:
> Adam Borowski writes:
>> libpam-systemd: xfce4-power-manager xfce4-session
>> * BAD: Depends:systemd, utterly pointless without it.
>
> This is a whole other discussion, but we had *endless* discussions of
> this, and there are very sound technical
Am 06.06.2017 um 15:55 schrieb Adam Borowski:
> gvfs: atril easytag thunar
> * BAD: gvfs is a major annoyance and a security hole
"Annoys Adam Borowski" is not a very convincing argument.
As for "security hole", I'm not sure what exactly you have in mind
there. I don't see any open CVEs or bugs ta
On Tue, 06 Jun 2017, Adam Borowski wrote:
> No one installs i386 new -- machines that are non-amd64-capable are:
> * mainstream machines from 2004 and earlier
That date is incorrect. I can't give you a precise date, but the
Thinkpad T43 with a 32-bit Centrino Pentium-M was **launched** in
April/2
On Tue, Jun 06, 2017 at 11:29:20PM +0200, Michael Biebl wrote:
> Am 06.06.2017 um 15:55 schrieb Adam Borowski:
> > gvfs: atril easytag thunar
> > * BAD: gvfs is a major annoyance and a security hole
>
> "Annoys Adam Borowski" is not a very convincing argument.
For the first part, it indeed varies
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(answering only to said list)
> Hey,
Hiya,
> For a number of years, we've been linking to the amd64/i386 netinst
> installer image from the front page. I think it's time to just switch
> that to just an amd64 image for stretch now. The vast majority of the
>
On Tue, Jun 06, 2017 at 06:43:46PM -0300, Henrique de Moraes Holschuh wrote:
> On Tue, 06 Jun 2017, Adam Borowski wrote:
> > No one installs i386 new -- machines that are non-amd64-capable are:
> > * mainstream machines from 2004 and earlier
>
> That date is incorrect. I can't give you a precise
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❦ 6 juin 2017 15:55 +0200, Adam Borowski :
> pulseaudio: xfce4-pulseaudio-plugin
> * BAD: I want working sound, duh.
From now on, you may be more likely to get sound with pulseaudio than
without due to upstreams dropping support for Alsa. See for example
Firefox. And the trend will continue si
على الإثنين 5 حزيران 2017 09:52، كتب Scott Kitterman:
>> The answer to that is not clear from the maintainer's response; nor is
>> it clear from what the submitter has written whether they know the
>> answer.
> Why is that question relevant? The policy definition of Recommends (versus
> Sugge
على الثلاثاء 6 حزيران 2017 04:42، كتب Jonas Smedegaard:
> Quoting Ghislain Vaillant (2017-06-06 10:13:55)
>>
>> Given this is a Python package, we should not even have to argue about
>> package relationships. Setuptools metadata provides install_requires
>> and extras_require, the former mappi
On Tue, Jun 06, 2017 at 11:08:30PM +0200, Michael Biebl wrote:
> Am 06.06.2017 um 18:06 schrieb Russ Allbery:
> > Adam Borowski writes:
> >> libpam-systemd: xfce4-power-manager xfce4-session
> >> * BAD: Depends:systemd, utterly pointless without it.
> > This is a whole other discussion, but we h
I'll chime in to what others have said. I think DVD images should not
be the default/main download venue. Even though the careful package
ordering by (alleged?) popularity, I am sure a great deal of Debian
installs use under half of the packages provided by the first DVD (and
many that are not ther
On Tue, Jun 6, 2017 at 9:55 PM, Adam Borowski wrote:
> bash-completion: bash dput-ng licensecheck
> * DEBATABLE: I like the Tab key to do something reasonable,
> "bash-completion" means you never know what you'll get.
I definitely would not want to run a Debian system that didn't have
bash-comp
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