On Fri, Nov 15, 2013 at 05:05:31PM +, Jonathan Dowland wrote:
> Furthermore, is it not usual practice for ftp master to comment on
> actual packages, rather than theoretical ones? an ITP is "intent to
> package". There's no package to critique yet!
Actually I'm starting from the previous pack
Package: wnpp
Severity: wishlist
Owner: Mark Brown
Package name: xemacs21-support
Version : 21.4.22
Upstream Author : XEmacs team
URL : http://www.xemacs.org/
License : GPL and others
Programming Lang: elisp
Description : highly customizable text
On Fri, Nov 15, 2013 at 09:49:49PM +, Dmitrijs Ledkovs wrote:
> Why should Debian carry this package?
It's a package that we've carried since forever and which has a
userbase.
> Which virtual packages are you planning to provide?
The same set as the package previously did: emacsen, info-br
On 11/16/2013 11:43 AM, Mark Brown wrote:
> On Fri, Nov 15, 2013 at 09:49:49PM +, Dmitrijs Ledkovs wrote:
>
>> Why should Debian carry this package?
>
> It's a package that we've carried since forever and which has a
> userbase.
That's not really an argument. We've also had uae and e-uae
(t
On Sat, Nov 16, 2013 at 1:44 AM, Charles Plessy wrote:
> Le Fri, Nov 15, 2013 at 10:39:46AM -0500, Paul Tagliamonte a écrit :
>>
>> I'd have to look at the RC bugs.
>>
>> I'm looking for a hard commitment here
>
> Hi Paul,
>
> I think that if you focused on the compliance with the DFSG, then the N
On 11/16/2013 12:22 PM, Bastien ROUCARIES wrote:
>> I know that other developers support the idea of having the FTP team doing
>> more
>> checks, but looking at the backlog, this in practice is only wishful
>> thinking,
>> that boils down to "I am happy that somebody else does the work". This at
On Sat, Nov 16, 2013 at 12:01:48PM +0100, John Paul Adrian Glaubitz wrote:
> On 11/16/2013 11:43 AM, Mark Brown wrote:
> > It's a package that we've carried since forever and which has a
> > userbase.
> That's not really an argument. We've also had uae and e-uae
It is an argument; it might be o
On 11/16/2013 01:10 PM, Mark Brown wrote:
>> Your first mail came with the argument that you think that
>> xemacs is more visually appealing than emacs. Honestly, emacs
>> is primarily a tool and not an optical gimmick. Visual
>> appearance does not bother most users, I'd guess. Most emacs
>> users
On 2013-11-16, John Paul Adrian Glaubitz wrote:
> On 11/16/2013 11:43 AM, Mark Brown wrote:
>> On Fri, Nov 15, 2013 at 09:49:49PM +, Dmitrijs Ledkovs wrote:
>>=20
>>> Why should Debian carry this package?
>>=20
>> It's a package that we've carried since forever and which has a
>> userbase.=20
On 11/16/2013 02:06 PM, Sune Vuorela wrote:
> I'm kind of wondering why we are arguing how someone who has
> maintained zlib longer than the rest of us have been DDs combined
> should spend his time.
I'm not criticizing him, I'm criticizing the idea. Or, putting it
the other way around, I think it
John Paul Adrian Glaubitz (2013-11-16):
> I have yet to see someone who does. I'm a long-time emacs user and so
> are many of other developers I work together with and everyone I know
> of who uses emacs as their primary editor doesn't use X11 support, you
> just don't need it in most cases. emacs
Yes, someone needs to review it, but before that the package tests
need to be fixed so they a) run and b) pass, reliably and repeatably.
After that, either get the package maintainers to discuss the new
version, or find someone to take over the package if they no longer
want to or can maintain it
Package: wnpp
Severity: wishlist
Owner: Andrew Shadura
* Package name: inputplug
Version : 0.0~hg
Upstream Author : Andrew Shadura
* URL : https://bitbucket.org/andrew_shadoura/inputplug/
* License : MIT/X11
Programming Lang: C
Description : XInput eve
On Sat, Nov 16, 2013 at 01:30:01PM +0100, John Paul Adrian Glaubitz wrote:
> On 11/16/2013 01:10 PM, Mark Brown wrote:
> > Your assertations here both seem rather strong and unsupported,
> > especially the idea that people don't use Emacs in graphical mode - it
> I have yet to see someone who doe
On Wed, Nov 6, 2013 at 10:02 PM, Giovanni Rapagnani wrote:
> Hi,
>
> The sources are here:
> http://www.nrubsig.org/people/fleyta/debian/ksh/astksh20131010_deb_prototype/ksh_93v-20131010-1.debian.tar.gz
> http://www.nrubsig.org/people/fleyta/debian/ksh/astksh20131010_deb_prototype/ksh_93v-20131010
❦ 16 novembre 2013 13:30 CET, John Paul Adrian Glaubitz
:
> I have yet to see someone who does. I'm a long-time emacs user
> and so are many of other developers I work together with and everyone
> I know of who uses emacs as their primary editor doesn't use X11
> support, you just don't need it
Package: wnpp
Severity: wishlist
Owner: Mohamed Amine
* Package name: fonts-rabat
Version : 1.0
Upstream Author : Youssef JABRI
* URL : http://sourceforge.net/projects/maghribifonts/
* License : non-free
Description : Arabic Maghribi Mabsout OpenType fon
John Paul Adrian Glaubitz writes:
> On 11/16/2013 01:10 PM, Mark Brown wrote:
>> Your assertations here both seem rather strong and unsupported,
>> especially the idea that people don't use Emacs in graphical mode - it
> I have yet to see someone who does.
*waves*.
> I'm a long-time emacs user
Package: wnpp
Severity: wishlist
Owner: Albin Tonnerre
* Package name: efl
Version : 1.8.0
Upstream Author : Enlightenment Developers
* URL : http://www.enlightenment.org/
* License : Mix of GPL, LGPL, BSD
Programming Lang: C
Description : Enlightenme
Hi,
On Fri, Nov 15, 2013 at 05:05:31PM +, Jonathan Dowland wrote:
> On Fri, Nov 15, 2013 at 10:06:37AM -0500, Paul Tagliamonte wrote:
> > I was on my phone, thanks for the advice.
>
> I laboriously quote-post from my phone all the time. Emails should be
> optimised for the reader, rather than
[[ Not CC'ing bugs because this mail is not about technical stuff ]]
Greetings Fellow Debianists,
On Sat, Nov 16, 2013 at 01:30:01PM +0100, John Paul Adrian Glaubitz wrote:
> On 11/16/2013 01:10 PM, Mark Brown wrote:
> >> Your first mail came with the argument that you think that
> >> xemacs is m
On 11/16/2013 07:39 PM, Filippo Rusconi wrote:
> How about knowing the shortcuts while having emacs running in a
> window?
I assume you haven't used emacs before then? ;) emacs has an excellent
online help and if you don't know a key shortcut, you can hit Meta-x
and type the command in a descripti
John Paul Adrian Glaubitz writes:
> Russ claimed that XEmacs has some features that emacs doesn't, however,
> he wasn't able to mention them.
The one that bothered me the most when I switched to Emacs was that XEmacs
narrows the cursor when it as the end of a line, which is very nice for
detecti
On 16/11/2013 13:30, John Paul Adrian Glaubitz wrote:
> I have yet to see someone who does. I'm a long-time emacs user
> and so are many of other developers I work together with and everyone
> I know of who uses emacs as their primary editor doesn't use X11
> support, you just don't need it in mos
On 11/16/2013 08:37 PM, Russ Allbery wrote:
> John Paul Adrian Glaubitz writes:
>
>> Russ claimed that XEmacs has some features that emacs doesn't, however,
>> he wasn't able to mention them.
>
> The one that bothered me the most when I switched to Emacs was that XEmacs
> narrows the cursor when
John Paul Adrian Glaubitz (2013-11-16):
> > And, rather more to the point, what the hell business is it of
> > yours? Other Debian Developers don't have to justify their
> > priorities and the disposition of their time to you. I think this
> > sort of grilling is quite demoralizing and frustrati
On Sat, Nov 16, 2013 at 01:30:01PM +0100, John Paul Adrian Glaubitz wrote:
> I have yet to see someone who does. I'm a long-time emacs user
> and so are many of other developers I work together with and everyone
> I know of who uses emacs as their primary editor doesn't use X11
> support, you just
On Sat, Nov 16, 2013 at 10:17 PM, Виталий Филиппов wrote:
> I couldn't send a email to pe...@p12n.org - his mail server says "552
> Rejected due to spam content (#5.7.1)".
>
> Are there any other ways of communicating to him?
His LDAP information indicates IRC:
https://db.debian.org/search.cgi?u
On Fri, 15 Nov 2013 13:39:07 +0400
Виталий Филиппов wrote:
> As the latest packaged Subversion in Debian is now 1.8.4 and it seems
> that the maintainer doesn't care updating it by now (see
> http://bugs.debian.org/cgi-bin/bugreport.cgi?bug=725787), I've recently
> packaged svn 1.8.4 and serf 1
On 2013-11-16 Albin Tonnerre wrote:
> * Package name: efl
> Version : 1.8.0
[...]
> Description : Enlightenment Foundation Libraries
> This package contains all Enlightenment Foundation Libraries from the
> 1.8.0 release onwards, and includes the following libraries that are
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