Re: PulseAudio

2013-07-21 Thread Sune Vuorela
On 2013-07-20, Andrei POPESCU wrote: > Have you been reading debian-user lately? One of the first=20 > recommendations is still "uninstall pulseaudio and see if it works". I have no idea on how to get sane people writing answers on debian-users. I personally run out of sanity when done with debia

Re: Survey answers part 3: systemd is not portable and what this means for our ports

2013-07-21 Thread Josselin Mouette
Le samedi 20 juillet 2013 à 19:21 -0400, The Wanderer a écrit : > [I am almost certainly going to regret this.] I hope so. > Making the switch away from the entrenched sysvinit is visibly very > difficult, at least as a social matter, even in the environment we have. > systemd et al., by virtue

Re: Survey answers part 3: systemd is not portable and what this means for our ports

2013-07-21 Thread Roger Leigh
On Sun, Jul 21, 2013 at 11:04:08PM +0200, Josselin Mouette wrote: > Le samedi 20 juillet 2013 à 19:21 -0400, The Wanderer a écrit : > > > Making the switch away from the entrenched sysvinit is visibly very > > difficult, at least as a social matter, even in the environment we have. > > systemd et

Re: Survey answers part 3: systemd is not portable and what this means for our ports

2013-07-21 Thread The Wanderer
On 07/21/2013 05:04 PM, Josselin Mouette wrote: Le samedi 20 juillet 2013 à 19:21 -0400, The Wanderer a écrit : [I am almost certainly going to regret this.] I hope so. Please don't be a jerk. Making the switch away from the entrenched sysvinit is visibly very difficult, at least as a so

Re: Survey answers part 3: systemd is not portable and what this means for our ports

2013-07-21 Thread Игорь Пашев
2013/7/22 Roger Leigh : > We would be effectively "locked in". We are locked in sysvinit. -- To UNSUBSCRIBE, email to debian-devel-requ...@lists.debian.org with a subject of "unsubscribe". Trouble? Contact listmas...@lists.debian.org Archive: http://lists.debian.org/call-q8xfw+ypmuiwagmn0fmvs

Re: Survey answers part 3: systemd is not portable and what this means for our ports

2013-07-21 Thread Russ Allbery
Игорь Пашев writes: > 2013/7/22 Roger Leigh : >> We would be effectively "locked in". > We are locked in sysvinit. Except we're not: both systemd and upstart support sysvinit scripts. Which is why we can do a gradual migration, or even switch back and forth between various alternatives. Howeve

Re: Survey answers part 3: systemd is not portable and what this means for our ports

2013-07-21 Thread Vincent Bernat
❦ 21 juillet 2013 23:48 CEST, Roger Leigh  : >> > Making the switch away from the entrenched sysvinit is visibly very >> > difficult, at least as a social matter, even in the environment we have. >> > systemd et al., by virtue of the integration which is apparently one of >> > their selling point

Re: Survey answers part 3: systemd is not portable and what this means for our ports

2013-07-21 Thread Matthias Klumpp
2013/7/22 Russ Allbery : > Игорь Пашев writes: >> 2013/7/22 Roger Leigh : > >>> We would be effectively "locked in". > >> We are locked in sysvinit. > > Except we're not: both systemd and upstart support sysvinit scripts. > Which is why we can do a gradual migration, or even switch back and forth

Re: Survey answers part 3: systemd is not portable and what this means for our ports

2013-07-21 Thread Uoti Urpala
The Wanderer wrote: > On 07/21/2013 05:04 PM, Josselin Mouette wrote: > > Le samedi 20 juillet 2013 à 19:21 -0400, The Wanderer a écrit : > >> Making the switch away from the entrenched sysvinit is visibly very > >> difficult, at least as a social matter, even in the environment we > >> have. syste

Bug#717532: RFP: odb - object-relational mapping (ORM) system for the C++ language

2013-07-21 Thread Onur Aslan
Package: wnpp Severity: wishlist * Package name: odb Version : 2.2.2 Upstream Author : Code Synthesis * URL : http://www.codesynthesis.com/products/odb/ * License : GPL-2 Programming Lang: C++ Description : object-relational mapping (ORM) system for the

Re: Survey answers part 3: systemd is not portable and what this means for our ports

2013-07-21 Thread The Wanderer
On 07/21/2013 07:06 PM, Matthias Klumpp wrote: 2013/7/22 Russ Allbery : Игорь Пашев writes: We are locked in sysvinit. Except we're not: both systemd and upstart support sysvinit scripts. Which is why we can do a gradual migration, or even switch back and forth between various alternativ

Re: Survey answers part 3: systemd is not portable and what this means for our ports

2013-07-21 Thread The Wanderer
On 07/21/2013 06:12 PM, Игорь Пашев wrote: 2013/7/22 Roger Leigh : We would be effectively "locked in". We are locked in sysvinit. Agreed, to an extent we are. And you can see how hard it's being to migrate away from that, even once alternatives have been implemented. I'm saying that it l

Re: Survey answers part 3: systemd is not portable and what this means for our ports

2013-07-21 Thread brian m. carlson
On Mon, Jul 22, 2013 at 02:59:20AM +0300, Uoti Urpala wrote: > Whether your argument was honest or not, I think it was a bad one. OK, > perhaps you have concerns about the philosophy behind systemd and where > that might take it in the future. Such "philosophy" issues are rather > subjective. But y

Let me introduce!

2013-07-21 Thread Ian Sapelino
Hello guys!! I am Ian Sapelino I am also Programmer and I want to know how to make a Debian Based OS?? Please reply to my answer! Thank you :)

Re: Survey answers part 3: systemd is not portable and what this means for our ports

2013-07-21 Thread Zbigniew Jędrzejewski-Szmek
On Sun, Jul 21, 2013 at 05:59:25PM -0400, The Wanderer wrote: > On 07/21/2013 05:04 PM, Josselin Mouette wrote: > > >Le samedi 20 juillet 2013 à 19:21 -0400, The Wanderer a écrit : > > > >>[I am almost certainly going to regret this.] > > > >I hope so. > > Please don't be a jerk. > > >>Making th

Bug#717538: ITP: python-django-oauth-plus -- Support of OAuth 1.0a in Django using python-oauth2

2013-07-21 Thread Kouhei Maeda
Package: wnpp Severity: wishlist Owner: Kouhei Maeda * Package name: python-django-oauth-plus Version : 2.1.2 Upstream Author : David Larlet * URL : http://code.larlet.fr/django-oauth-plus/ * License : BSD Programming Lang: Python D

Grub 2.00 in testing?

2013-07-21 Thread Carl Johnson
Does anybody know what is going on with grub in testing? I have been waiting for 2.00, but it seems to be stuck at 1.99. Grub-common at http://packages.debian.org/jessie/grub-common shows that it is at 1.99-27+deb7u1, but the source files show 2.00-14. The qa page at http://packages.qa.debian.or

Bug#717542: ITP: python-shortuuid -- generates concise, unambiguous, URL-safe UUIDs

2013-07-21 Thread Kouhei Maeda
Package: wnpp Severity: wishlist Owner: Kouhei Maeda * Package name: python-shortuuid Version : 0.3 Upstream Author : Stochastic Technologies * URL : https://github.com/stochastic-technologies/shortuuid/ * License : BSD Programming Lang: Python Description

Why we need supervision in init(1)

2013-07-21 Thread Ondřej Surý
Hi, JFTR this is yet another example: #681088, why we really need a native supervision of the daemons and where (apart from switching from quagga to bird :) the supervision would have helped tremendously instead of writing yet-another-supervision-script. O. -- Ondřej Surý

Re: Grub 2.00 in testing?

2013-07-21 Thread Andreas Metzler
On 2013-07-22 Carl Johnson wrote: > Does anybody know what is going on with grub in testing? I have been > waiting for 2.00, but it seems to be stuck at 1.99. Grub-common at > http://packages.debian.org/jessie/grub-common shows that it is at > 1.99-27+deb7u1, but the source files show 2.00-14.

Re: Grub 2.00 in testing?

2013-07-21 Thread Adam D. Barratt
On Sun, 2013-07-21 at 20:42 -0700, Carl Johnson wrote: > Does anybody know what is going on with grub in testing? I have been > waiting for 2.00, but it seems to be stuck at 1.99. Grub-common at > http://packages.debian.org/jessie/grub-common shows that it is at > 1.99-27+deb7u1, but the source f

Re: Grub 2.00 in testing?

2013-07-21 Thread Andrey Rahmatullin
On Mon, Jul 22, 2013 at 07:36:22AM +0100, Adam D. Barratt wrote: > The migration notification is in error; it's a bug in the script that > generates the notifications, that doesn't ignore extra entries included > in the Sources files added by the archive management software in order > to help with