Re: Enabling uscan to simply remove files from upstream source

2012-08-22 Thread Jonas Smedegaard
On 12-08-22 at 09:39am, Paul Wise wrote: > On Tue, Aug 21, 2012 at 6:21 PM, Andreas Tille wrote: > > > Any further hints / remarks? > > In comparison to the current method for repacking (debian/rules > get-orig-source), this doesn't allow per-file-set comments about why > the file-set is being re

Re: Enabling uscan to simply remove files from upstream source

2012-08-22 Thread Jonas Smedegaard
On 12-08-21 at 12:21pm, Andreas Tille wrote: > Regarding the implementation there was some uncertainity about the > actual Perl module to use. In the attached example script I decided > to stick to Dpkg::Control and left the code for Parse::DebControl as a > comment which could pretty easily co

Re: Bug#684396: ITP: openrc -- alternative boot mechanism that manages the services, startup and shutdown of a host

2012-08-22 Thread Philipp Kern
On Mon, Aug 20, 2012 at 12:37:32PM -0700, Russ Allbery wrote: > We don't have a particularly good way of handling this situation right now > other than one-off work on each package that may need to be treated > unusually. It's a bit difficult for the maintainer to determine the > implications for

Re: Minified javascript files

2012-08-22 Thread Thomas Goirand
[About yui-compressor] On 08/21/2012 02:49 AM, Vincent Bernat wrote: > It is not used anymore and is therefore less tested and less > trustworthy. > Sorry for the dumb questions (which are kind of conflicting each other btw), but: - If the only problem is testing, can't it be tested, so we kno

Re: Minified javascript files

2012-08-22 Thread Igor Pashev
20.08.2012 11:33, Thomas Goirand пишет: > So, could you tell in what way yui-compressor isn't considered > not reliable enough? Does it crash? Or does it produce bad > minified scripts? In which case: in what way bad? yui-compressor has a lot of dependencies :-) -- To UNSUBSCRIBE, email to debi

Re: Minified javascript files

2012-08-22 Thread Damien Raude-Morvan
Hi, /me put on his yui-compressor maintainer hat ;) Le 22/08/2012 13:03, Thomas Goirand a écrit : [About yui-compressor] On 08/21/2012 02:49 AM, Vincent Bernat wrote: It is not used anymore and is therefore less tested and less trustworthy. Sorry for the dumb questions (which are kind of c

Re: can we (fully) release-goal decommissioning of trolls

2012-08-22 Thread Christoph Anton Mitterer
On Tue, 2012-08-21 at 00:47 +0200, Josselin Mouette wrote: > Thanks for this excellent example of the behavior I described. With > “down to Windows level” you must think you have hit the trigger of the > ultimate bazooka to shut people up, don’t you? Well Josselin,... I'm not generally against new

Re: Minified javascript files

2012-08-22 Thread Damien Raude-Morvan
Le 22/08/2012 14:52, Simon Josefsson a écrit : Damien Raude-Morvan writes: IMHO, it's obvious that yui-compressor is not - anymore - the most efficient javascript minifier and better alternative exists. It's simply not used anymore by "big players" of Javascript libs (like jQuery) so it receiv

Re: Minified javascript files

2012-08-22 Thread Simon Josefsson
Damien Raude-Morvan writes: > IMHO, it's obvious that yui-compressor is not - anymore - the most > efficient javascript minifier and better alternative exists. It's > simply not used anymore by "big players" of Javascript libs (like > jQuery) so it receives less attention (even from Yahoo for YUI

Re: bugs opened upstream (was: can we (fully) fix/integrate NetworkManager (preferred) or release-goal its decommissioning)

2012-08-22 Thread Christoph Anton Mitterer
On Mon, 2012-08-20 at 13:08 +0200, Bjørn Mork wrote: > Debian need *both*, and any efforts in this area should be put into > making them interoperate. That's my point! :-) So for the curious amongst you... I've opened the following ifupdown-plugin related bugs/improvement-ideas upstream: https://b

Re: can we (fully) release-goal decommissioning of trolls

2012-08-22 Thread Christoph Anton Mitterer
On Mon, 2012-08-20 at 12:38 +0200, Josselin Mouette wrote: > This is untrue. Any *physically logged on* user can connect to any > network. For a desktop system this is clearly a reasonable default Well the are people that may disagree here. Of course this is dependent on personal views. Anyway what

Re: can we (fully) release-goal decommissioning of trolls

2012-08-22 Thread Philipp Kern
On Wed, Aug 22, 2012 at 03:03:29PM +0200, Christoph Anton Mitterer wrote: > Similar (security) problems are (possibly) brought by techniques like > Avahi... There's not much revealed by it that's not visible from a port scan. (Ok, the hostname probably.) And the mDNS data stream is only accessible

Re: Minified javascript files

2012-08-22 Thread Bernd Zeimetz
On 08/17/2012 10:21 PM, Raphael Hertzog wrote: > Hi, > > On Fri, 17 Aug 2012, Luca Falavigna wrote: >> 2012/8/17 Bernd Zeimetz : >>> But it usually does and also results in a source tarball which is >>> missing essential pieces of the software, so people who download it for >>> non-Debian usage wi

Processed: Re: Bug#659831: python2.7: When python2.7 is default, some python based programs don't work because of ImportError.

2012-08-22 Thread Debian Bug Tracking System
Processing commands for cont...@bugs.debian.org: > reassign 659831 general Bug #659831 [python2.7] python2.7: When python2.7 is default, some python based programs don't work because of ImportError. Bug reassigned from package 'python2.7' to 'general'. No longer marked as found in versions python

Re: Minified javascript files

2012-08-22 Thread Thomas Goirand
On 08/22/2012 10:09 PM, Bernd Zeimetz wrote: > Also please remember the Social Contract: > Our priorities are our users and free software. > > If I would remove an otherwise free piece of software I'm not using in > the binary package just because the original, non-minified version of it > is missi

Re: Minified javascript files

2012-08-22 Thread Russ Allbery
Thomas Goirand writes: > While I can agree that removing the minified version of a javascript > script from the original source might be seen as (arguably) a little bit > extreme and annoying (but I do respect this view), I really think we > *do* need the normal non-minified version of every scri

Bug#685641: ITP: xul-ext-reloadevery -- Reload web pages in regular intervals

2012-08-22 Thread Mike Gabriel
Package: wnpp Severity: wishlist Owner: Mike Gabriel * Package name: xul-ext-reloadevery Version : 13.0.0 Upstream Author : Jaap Haitsma * URL : http://reloadevery.mozdev.org * License : MPL-1.1 Programming Lang: Mozilla/XUL Extension Description : Rel

Re: Minified javascript files

2012-08-22 Thread Pau Garcia i Quiles
On Wed, Aug 22, 2012 at 8:30 PM, Russ Allbery wrote: > I think the debate in this thread is about whether it makes sense to > require removing the minimized version from the upstream source when we > don't install that file or otherwise use it in the binary package (because > the binary package d

Re: Minified javascript files

2012-08-22 Thread Russ Allbery
Pau Garcia i Quiles writes: > While working today on Wt again, I've noticed if I were to repackage the > upstream tarball to remove jquery.min.js, I would also remove the > Doxygen-generated HTML apidox. After all, I'm also regenerating them, > therefore to me it's just a few thousands of useless

Re: Minified javascript files

2012-08-22 Thread Vincent Bernat
❦ 23 août 2012 01:01 CEST, Pau Garcia i Quiles  : >> I think the debate in this thread is about whether it makes sense to >> require removing the minimized version from the upstream source when we >> don't install that file or otherwise use it in the binary package (because >> the binary package