Your message dated Thu, 26 Jul 2012 09:39:33 +0200
with message-id <201207260939.34389.hol...@layer-acht.org>
and subject line Re: Bug#682833: general: Compose key is ignored when using
Xfce4 and GDM.
has caused the Debian Bug report #682833,
regarding general: Compose key is ignored when using Xf
On Thu, 2012-07-26 at 07:47 +0200, Jean-Christophe Dubacq wrote:
> On 26/07/2012 02:39, Vincent Lefevre wrote:
> > On 2012-07-25 21:28:16 +0100, Neil Williams wrote:
> >> On Wed, 25 Jul 2012 21:58:20 +0200
> >> Svante Signell wrote:
> >>
> >>> Is emacs24 going to be the default package for Wheezy?
On Thu, 2012-07-26 at 02:39 +0200, Vincent Lefevre wrote:
> On 2012-07-25 21:28:16 +0100, Neil Williams wrote:
> > On Wed, 25 Jul 2012 21:58:20 +0200
> > Svante Signell wrote:
> >
> > > Is emacs24 going to be the default package for Wheezy?
...
> > emacs24 wouldn't seem to meet any of the criter
On Wed, 2012-07-25 at 15:13 -0700, Russ Allbery wrote:
> Svante Signell writes:
>
> > I think this issue is very relevant to Wheezy. Why are there so many
> > outdated packages going into this release? The whole idea of unstable is
> > (to my understanding) to package the latest upstream releases
On Thu, Jul 26, 2012 at 11:02:10AM +0200, Svante Signell wrote:
> Well there is experimental that could be used to package pre-releases
> and new releases to make them suitable for unstable and testing _before_
> the freeze!
>
> Add to that unresponsive package maintainers, refusing to package ne
> Description : C++ metaprogramming library to make enums a little bit
> nicer
if you could make that description more meaningful, _that_ would be very nice
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Lars Wirzenius, le Thu 26 Jul 2012 10:31:24 +0100, a écrit :
> * The new release is requested by insistent Hurd porters,
I would just like to confirm that the Hurd porter team does *not*
back Svante's request for new releases. Even though we have already
explained him several times why in
On 2012-07-26 13:33:46 +0900, Miles Bader wrote:
> Vincent Lefevre writes:
> > I think that there could be an optimization like that in
> > fesetround() too.
>
> Do you think it's worth proposing this to the glibc people?
Yes, since this makes the code much faster on some processors,
I think it
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On 2012-07-26 02:19, Filipus Klutiero wrote:
> The above is incorrect. The keyring only contains Debian developers
> which are packagers or members. Note that we have terminological
> issues on this front (the constitution equates "Debian Developer"
On 2012-07-26 10:50:52 +0200, Svante Signell wrote:
> On Thu, 2012-07-26 at 02:39 +0200, Vincent Lefevre wrote:
> > emacs23 doesn't have RC issues, but bug 608417 is close to one. This
> > bug is worse that I expected in the first place. I got corrupted files
> > several times without noticing the
On Thu, 2012-07-26 at 10:31 +0100, Lars Wirzenius wrote:
> On Thu, Jul 26, 2012 at 11:02:10AM +0200, Svante Signell wrote:
> > Well there is experimental that could be used to package pre-releases
> > and new releases to make them suitable for unstable and testing _before_
> > the freeze!
> >
> >
On Thu, Jul 26, 2012 at 08:28:34PM +0900, Samuel Thibault wrote:
> Please consider that he is speaking on his own, do not take him as "the
> Hurd porters". The Hurd porter team wants to avoid anything that would
> delay the release.
I apologize for implying that the Hurd porter team would do that
Lars Wirzenius, le Thu 26 Jul 2012 13:46:40 +0100, a écrit :
> On Thu, Jul 26, 2012 at 08:28:34PM +0900, Samuel Thibault wrote:
> > Please consider that he is speaking on his own, do not take him as "the
> > Hurd porters". The Hurd porter team wants to avoid anything that would
> > delay the relea
Jon Dowland writes ("Re: Modified http://wiki.debian.org/DebianDeveloper to
mention non-packagers (Re: [CTTE #614907] Resolution of node/nodejs conflict)"):
> On Wed, Jul 25, 2012 at 12:15:15AM -0700, Russ Allbery wrote:
> > We are in the process of discussing a variety of constitutional amendment
On Thu, 2012-07-26 at 10:31 +0100, Lars Wirzenius wrote:
> On Thu, Jul 26, 2012 at 11:02:10AM +0200, Svante Signell wrote:
> > Well there is experimental that could be used to package pre-releases
> > and new releases to make them suitable for unstable and testing _before_
> > the freeze!
...
> *
On Thu, 2012-07-26 at 20:28 +0900, Samuel Thibault wrote:
> Hello,
>
> Lars Wirzenius, le Thu 26 Jul 2012 10:31:24 +0100, a écrit :
> > * The new release is requested by insistent Hurd porters,
...
> I would just like to confirm that the Hurd porter team does *not*
> back Svante's request for new
On Thu, Jul 26, 2012 at 01:55:06PM +0100, Ian Jackson wrote:
> Jon Dowland writes ("Re: Modified http://wiki.debian.org/DebianDeveloper to
> mention non-packagers (Re: [CTTE #614907] Resolution of node/nodejs
> conflict)"):
> > On Wed, Jul 25, 2012 at 12:15:15AM -0700, Russ Allbery wrote:
> > > W
On Fri, Jul 13, 2012 at 12:20:23AM +0300, Timo Juhani Lindfors wrote:
> Svante Signell writes:
> > NMUs should be made/allowed/encouraged? I know all packaging is made by
> > volunteers at their spare time, but anyway. Debian is one of the best
> > distributions, what about raising the bar a littl
On Thu, Jul 26, 2012 at 01:55:06PM +0100, Ian Jackson wrote:
> > > We are in the process of discussing a variety of constitutional amendments
> > > to be raised by the tech-ctte that will hopefully end up creating a sort
> > > of bundle of constitutional fixes to vote on. Perhaps it would be good
Jon Dowland writes ("Re: Modified http://wiki.debian.org/DebianDeveloper to
mention non-packagers (Re: [CTTE #614907] Resolution of node/nodejs conflict)"):
> I'm not overly interested in the word developer being eradicated, but at
> the very least having some consistency in Debian's documents wou
Jon Dowland writes:
> I disagree.
Maybe my statement was overly general indeed. I certainly agree with
> There is work to be done to make Debian attract more contributors.
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Andrey Rahmatullin writes ("Re: Modified http://wiki.debian.org/DebianDeveloper
to mention non-packagers (Re: [CTTE #614907] Resolution of node/nodejs
conflict)"):
> On Thu, Jul 26, 2012 at 01:55:06PM +0100, Ian Jackson wrote:
> > I am not in favour of this change. The point about a Debian Devel
On 2012-07-26 14:29:14 +0100 (+0100), Ian Jackson wrote:
[...]
> We also need a general word for "someone involved with Debian in a
> positive way". "Participant" is clumsy; "member of the community"
> even more so. "Person" might do but word with a more positive spin
> would be nice.
As a long-ti
On 07/26/2012 08:37 AM, The Fungi wrote:
> On 2012-07-26 14:29:14 +0100 (+0100), Ian Jackson wrote:
> [...]
>> We also need a general word for "someone involved with Debian in a
>> positive way". "Participant" is clumsy; "member of the community"
>> even more so. "Person" might do but word with a m
This is a header only library to wrap C++ enums and automatically
provide some functionality for (de)serialization from text streams. It
also provides some different semantics on the way enumerations can be
combined.
I can give more detail as I'm the author of the library, but I'm not
sure how to s
On Fri, 2012-07-13 at 04:37 +0100, Ben Hutchings wrote:
[...]
> I would like to address this by backporting this feature:
>
> commit d6e486868cde585842d55ba3b6ec57af090fc343
> Author: Ludwig Nussel
> Date: Wed Jan 25 11:52:28 2012 +0100
>
> debugfs: add mode, uid and gid options
>
> and t
Hi,
On Donnerstag, 26. Juli 2012, Ian Jackson wrote:
> Heh, like that's going to work in Debian. What we could do though is
> try harder to use the nouns we do have more consistently.
Heh, like that's going to work in Debian.
;-)
Actually I do think introducing new _and better/good_ terms wor
On 07/26/2012 03:29 PM, Ian Jackson wrote:
> Developer, DD
> As per the constitution; includes non-uploading DDs.
> New Maintainer needs to be renamed to New Developer.
>
> [Non-]Uploading Developer
> To distinguish where necessary, but usually we can use
> Sponsor instea
Svante Signell writes:
> Well there is experimental that could be used to package pre-releases
> and new releases to make them suitable for unstable and testing _before_
> the freeze!
Sure. But that doesn't magically happen; someone has to actually do it.
> Add to that unresponsive package mai
+++ Svante Signell [2012-07-26 14:45 +0200]:
> On Thu, 2012-07-26 at 10:31 +0100, Lars Wirzenius wrote:
> >
> > There are a ton of reasons why Debian may have an older version of
> > an upstream release. For example, and I hasten to point out that
> > the following list is by no means exhaustive,
On Thu, 2012-07-26 at 15:24 -0400, Michael Gilbert wrote:
> On Thu, Jul 26, 2012 at 9:02 AM, Svante Signell wrote:
> > I can give a few examples of outdated packages having non-responsive
> > maintainers, wine is one of them. See the wishlist bugs! Finally a set
> > of NMUs solved that problem.
>
On Thu, 2012-07-26 at 18:54 +0200, Luk Claes wrote:
> On 07/26/2012 03:29 PM, Ian Jackson wrote:
...
> > We also need a general word for "someone involved with Debian in a
> > positive way". "Participant" is clumsy; "member of the community"
> > even more so. "Person" might do but word with a mor
Svante Signell writes:
> On Thu, 2012-07-26 at 15:24 -0400, Michael Gilbert wrote:
>> If a you see an out-of-date package, please volunteer your time to help
>> fix it. If you're not a DD, you can do the work and send a message to
>> debian-mentors.
> I have tried several times and I can give y
Ian Jackson (26/07/2012):
> Uploaders needs to be abolished in favour of multiple
> Maintainers. In wheezy perhaps ?
I'm pretty sure the answer is no.
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Svante Signell (25/07/2012):
> Is emacs24 going to be the default package for Wheezy?
No.
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On Thu, Jul 26, 2012 at 3:44 PM, Svante Signell wrote:
>> If a you see an out-of-date package, please volunteer your time to
>> help fix it. If you're not a DD, you can do the work and send a
>> message to debian-mentors.
>
> I have tried several times and I can give you a recent example, see
> #
Michael Gilbert writes:
> On Thu, Jul 26, 2012 at 3:44 PM, Svante Signell wrote:
>> I have tried several times and I can give you a recent example, see
>> #610209 and especially #669368. I have tried to contribute, but to no
>> avail (at least in this case).
> While it's nice that you've prepare
On Thu, Jul 26, 2012 at 6:09 PM, Russ Allbery wrote:
>> While it's nice that you've prepared a package for the new mlocate
>> upstream version, getting it done after the freeze is simply far too
>> late. Also, for packages that haven't been updated in a very long time
>> (two years in this case),
Michael Gilbert writes:
> On Thu, Jul 26, 2012 at 6:09 PM, Russ Allbery wrote:
>> In this case, the maintainer is definitely not MIA. Prompted by this
>> thread, I looked over the open bugs (and took the liberty of tagging a
>> couple since I was looking them over anyway), and they seem fairly
>
On Thu, 2012-07-26 at 15:58 -0700, Russ Allbery wrote:
> Michael Gilbert writes:
> > On Thu, Jul 26, 2012 at 6:09 PM, Russ Allbery wrote:
...
> > This would be a case where I think liberal NMUing would certainly be
> > appropriate (of course prior to the freeze).
>
> Yeah, I guess that makes sens
On Thu, Jul 26, 2012 at 7:20 PM, Svante Signell wrote:
>> Yeah, I guess that makes sense, *if* the person doing the NMU then owns
>> any bugs they introduce and of course doesn't do anything drastic like
>> rewriting the build system. And provides plenty of warning.
>
> Please, what can I do being
Svante Signell writes:
> On Thu, 2012-07-26 at 15:58 -0700, Russ Allbery wrote:
>> Yeah, I guess that makes sense, *if* the person doing the NMU then owns
>> any bugs they introduce and of course doesn't do anything drastic like
>> rewriting the build system. And provides plenty of warning.
> P
On Thu, Jul 26, 2012 at 6:58 PM, Russ Allbery wrote:
>> True. Part of the problem is appropriate terminology. This is a case
>> of what I would call an "undermaintained" package. Even though the
>> maintainer is still around, and may be quite active elsewhere, this
>> package has not gotten any
Michael Gilbert writes:
> If one sees a package that has not been uploaded in 2 years (or 6 months
> or however long), I think we should make it so that they can feel free
> to liberal NMU it with a 10-day delay. If the maintainer was really
> planning to hold the package back for some reason, t
The following is a listing of packages for which help has been requested
through the WNPP (Work-Needing and Prospective Packages) system in the
last week.
Total number of orphaned packages: 460 (new: 4)
Total number of packages offered up for adoption: 145 (new: 0)
Total number of packages request
Package: wnpp
Severity: wishlist
Owner: Tiago Bortoletto Vaz
* Package name: python-pyknon
Version : 1.0
Upstream Author : Pedro Kroger
* URL : https://github.com/kroger/pyknon
* License : MIT
Programming Lang: Python
Description : A simple Python musi
I _knew_ Apple was behind this somehow!
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Hello,
I intend to orphan zynaddsubfx. Before doing that I invite two additional DD's
to confirm that they agree with this intent with ma...@debian.org in cc.
Youngest upload of zynaddsubfx by maintainer is 2009-08-31. The package has
been maintained via NMU's since then.
http://packages.qa.deb
Hi,
On Sat, 21 Jul 2012 19:13:45 -0400
Joey Hess wrote:
> Which is why I asked for actual, real-world benchmarks...
As I said in my presentation, I just tested a few case,
fonts-horai-umefont, poppler-data and openclipart-png.
Install fonts- and poppler-data is almost same time, but opencli
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