Re: debian-multimedia.org considered harmful

2012-03-11 Thread Adam Borowski
On Sun, Mar 11, 2012 at 03:53:18AM +, brian m. carlson wrote: > On Sun, Mar 11, 2012 at 01:39:13AM +0100, Adam Borowski wrote: > > On Sun, Mar 11, 2012 at 11:00:30AM +1100, Ben Finney wrote: > > > Your complaint, then, is against those who use the law to restrict your > > > use of your legally-

Re: debian-multimedia.org considered harmful

2012-03-11 Thread Mike Hommey
On Sun, Mar 11, 2012 at 09:16:47AM +0100, Adam Borowski wrote: > On Sun, Mar 11, 2012 at 03:53:18AM +, brian m. carlson wrote: > > On Sun, Mar 11, 2012 at 01:39:13AM +0100, Adam Borowski wrote: > > > On Sun, Mar 11, 2012 at 11:00:30AM +1100, Ben Finney wrote: > > > > Your complaint, then, is ag

Re: debian-multimedia.org considered harmful

2012-03-11 Thread Luk Claes
On 03/11/2012 09:37 AM, Mike Hommey wrote: > On Sun, Mar 11, 2012 at 09:16:47AM +0100, Adam Borowski wrote: >> On Sun, Mar 11, 2012 at 03:53:18AM +, brian m. carlson wrote: >>> On Sun, Mar 11, 2012 at 01:39:13AM +0100, Adam Borowski wrote: On Sun, Mar 11, 2012 at 11:00:30AM +1100, Ben Finn

Re: debian-multimedia.org considered harmful

2012-03-11 Thread Russ Allbery
Luk Claes writes: > On 03/11/2012 09:37 AM, Mike Hommey wrote: >> On Sun, Mar 11, 2012 at 09:16:47AM +0100, Adam Borowski wrote: >>> When the totem law of Kbanga declares that displaying any words with >>> two consonant clusters is illegal on Fridays, the rest of the world >>> doesn't suffer. Be

Re: debian-multimedia.org considered harmful

2012-03-11 Thread Thomas Goirand
On 03/11/2012 04:16 PM, Adam Borowski wrote: > When the totem law of Kbanga declares that displaying any words with two > consonant clusters is illegal on Fridays, the rest of the world doesn't > suffer. Being able to pop in a DVD and play it is something an average > person takes for granted. If

Re: Re: debian-multimedia.org considered harmful

2012-03-11 Thread Eric Valette
When the totem law of Kbanga declares that displaying any words with two consonant clusters is illegal on Fridays, the rest of the world doesn't suffer. Being able to pop in a DVD and play it is something an average person takes for granted. If oppressive laws in a single country stop a good par

Re: upstart: please update to latest upstream version

2012-03-11 Thread Vincent Bernat
OoO En cette nuit nuageuse du mercredi 07 mars 2012, vers 00:21, Fernando Lemos disait : >> To give one particular example: systemd uses Linux-specific features to >> accurately track all the processes started by a service, which allows >> accurate monitoring and shutdown of processes whi

Re: debian-multimedia.org considered harmful

2012-03-11 Thread Holger Levsen
On Sonntag, 11. März 2012, Eric Valette wrote: > Actually official debian does not offers this and is furthermore > criticizing good willing people that try to make Debian useable a > multimedia/HTPC system. official Debian is not criticising anyone here. This is just debian- devel@l.d.o: some peo

Re: debian-multimedia.org considered harmful, Was: Unofficial repositories on 'debian' domains

2012-03-11 Thread Vincent Bernat
OoO Pendant le temps de midi du samedi 10 mars 2012, vers 12:30, Eric Valette disait : > Yes acknowledged that vlc and mplayer are now up-to-date. vlc 0.5.3 was released on April, 8 2003. Debian package on April, 14 2003. vlc 0.8.6a was released on January, 4 2007. Debian package on January

Re: Re: debian-multimedia.org considered harmful, Was: Unofficial repositories on 'debian' domains

2012-03-11 Thread Eric Valette
When exactly was vlc not up-to-date on Debian? As long as it is unable to play dvd or various codec that are non supported given the option for compiling libav for example -- eric -- To UNSUBSCRIBE, email to debian-devel-requ...@lists.debian.org with a subject of "unsubscribe". Trouble? Co

Re: Re: debian-multimedia.org considered harmful

2012-03-11 Thread Eric Valette
Actually official debian does not offers this and is furthermore criticizing good willing people that try to make Debian useable in a multimedia/HTPC system. official Debian is not criticising anyone here. This is just debian- devel@l.d.o: some people ranting, some discussing and some totally of

Bug#663456: ITP: mediatomb -- UPnP MediaServer

2012-03-11 Thread Hector Oron
Package: wnpp Severity: wishlist Owner: Hector Oron * Package name: mediatomb Version : 0.12.1-3 Upstream Author : Leonhard Wimmer , Sergey Bostandzhyan , Gena Batyan * URL : http://mediatomb.cc * License : GPL Program

Bug#663457: ITP: libnet-https-nb-perl -- non-blocking HTTPS client

2012-03-11 Thread Florian Schlichting
Package: wnpp Severity: wishlist Owner: Florian Schlichting * Package name: libnet-https-nb-perl Version : 0.12 Upstream Author : Oleg G * URL : http://search.cpan.org/dist/Net-HTTPS-NB/ * License : GPL-1+ / Artistic Programming Lang: Perl Description

Bug#663458: ITP: libterm-filter-perl -- Perl module to run an interactive terminal session, filtering the input and output

2012-03-11 Thread Florian Schlichting
Package: wnpp Severity: wishlist Owner: Florian Schlichting * Package name: libterm-filter-perl Version : 0.03 Upstream Author : Jesse Luehrs * URL : http://search.cpan.org/perldoc?Term::Filter * License : GPL-1+ / Artistic Programming Lang: Perl Descripti

qemubuilder - are there precompiled kernel-images with ipv6 and ext3 support built-in

2012-03-11 Thread Björn Esser
Hello! Are there any precompiled kernels for qemubuilder which have built-in support for ipv6 and ext3 (and probably other nifty stuff) available? Even better would be precompiled kernels which use the same configuration as the debian buildd-network. I did some research on the w³ and found nothi

Re: debian-multimedia.org considered harmful, Was: Unofficial repositories on 'debian' domains

2012-03-11 Thread Wouter Verhelst
On Sat, Mar 10, 2012 at 11:44:50AM +0100, Eric Valette wrote: > On 10/03/2012 11:14, Thomas Goirand wrote: > >Debian Squeeze has a very nice set of packages that will make > >a good fit for this platform. What do you think will be lacking > >exactly? > > XBMC, up to date ffmpeg at least with some

Re: upstart: please update to latest upstream version

2012-03-11 Thread Fernando Lemos
On Sun, Mar 11, 2012 at 7:25 AM, Vincent Bernat wrote: > OoO  En  cette nuit  nuageuse  du mercredi  07  mars  2012, vers  00:21, > Fernando Lemos disait : > >>> To give one particular example: systemd uses Linux-specific features to >>> accurately track all the processes started by a service, wh

Re: upstart: please update to latest upstream version

2012-03-11 Thread Vincent Bernat
OoO Vers la fin de l'après-midi du dimanche 11 mars 2012, vers 16:14, Fernando Lemos disait : >> Maybe we could  have an intermediate goal to patch any  daemon to add an >> option  to not  fork on  start.  If  any daemon  can be  started without >> forking, it seems  easy to start/stop them wi

Re: debian-multimedia.org considered harmful, Was: Unofficial repositories on 'debian' domains

2012-03-11 Thread Jonas Smedegaard
[CC Eric - drop all other CCs] On 12-03-11 at 03:54pm, Wouter Verhelst wrote: > On Sat, Mar 10, 2012 at 11:44:50AM +0100, Eric Valette wrote: > > On 10/03/2012 11:14, Thomas Goirand wrote: > > >Debian Squeeze has a very nice set of packages that will make a > > >good fit for this platform. What d

Re: upstart: please update to latest upstream version

2012-03-11 Thread Goswin von Brederlow
Vincent Bernat writes: > OoO Vers la fin de l'après-midi du dimanche 11 mars 2012, vers 16:14, > Fernando Lemos disait : > >>> Maybe we could  have an intermediate goal to patch any  daemon to add an >>> option  to not  fork on  start.  If  any daemon  can be  started >>> without

Re: upstart: please update to latest upstream version

2012-03-11 Thread Vincent Bernat
OoO Pendant le repas du dimanche 11 mars 2012, vers 19:24, Goswin von Brederlow disait : >> Yes, but systemd relies on cgroups which are not portable. If all >> daemons were able to not fork, it would be easier to convert a .service >> file to a classic init.d script and therefore use

Bug#663508: ITP: all-knowing-dns -- Tiny DNS server for IPv6 Reverse DNS

2012-03-11 Thread Michael Stapelberg
Package: wnpp Owner: Michael Stapelberg Severity: wishlist X-Debbugs-CC: debian-devel@lists.debian.org * Package name: all-knowing-dns Version : 1.0 Upstream Author : Michael Stapelberg, C<< >> * URL : http://search.cpan.org/dist/AllKnowingDNS/ * License : BSD

Re: upstart: please update to latest upstream version

2012-03-11 Thread Juliusz Chroboczek
> Maybe we could have an intermediate goal to patch any daemon to add an > option to not fork on start. Yes, please. All the more so since it is effort well-spent, as it is likely to be useful not only for systemd and upstart, but also for whatever service management daemon comes next. (Not

Bug#663517: ITP: raintpl -- The easy and fast template engine for PHP. Rain.TPL makes application easier to create & enables designers/developers to work better together.

2012-03-11 Thread Kees de Jong
Package: wnpp Severity: wishlist Owner: Kees de Jong * Package name: raintpl Version : 2.7.2 Upstream Author : Federico Ulfo The Rain Team * URL : http://www.raintpl.com/ * License : LGPL - 3+ Programming Lang: PHP De

Re: debian-multimedia.org considered harmful

2012-03-11 Thread Ben Finney
Eric Valette writes: > Again, I can understand the reasons, but an average user expects to be > able to read dvd or blue-ray or to get a decent multimedia player. People are right to expect free use of the things they acquire legally. That doesn't change the fact that the copyright and patent la

Bug#663535: ITP: php5-zeromq -- PHP bindings for ZeroMQ

2012-03-11 Thread Gleb Golubitsky
Package: wnpp Severity: wishlist Owner: Gleb Golubitsky * Package name: php5-zeromq Version : 1.0.3 Upstream Author : Mikko Koppanen * URL : https://github.com/mkoppanen/php-zmq * License : BSD Programming Lang: C Description : PHP bindings for ZeroMQ

Re: upstart: please update to latest upstream version

2012-03-11 Thread Goswin von Brederlow
Vincent Bernat writes: > OoO Pendant le repas du dimanche 11 mars 2012, vers 19:24, Goswin von > Brederlow disait : > >>> Yes, but systemd relies on cgroups which are not portable. If all >>> daemons were able to not fork, it would be easier to convert a .service >>> file to a classi

Re: upstart: please update to latest upstream version

2012-03-11 Thread Russ Allbery
Goswin von Brederlow writes: > Vincent Bernat writes: >> Goswin von Brederlow writes: >>> That would actually make things more difficult since then you have to >>> add some delay into the sysvinit files to wait for the daemon to >>> become ready before the init.d script returns. >> Is start-st