On Mon, 2012-03-05 at 14:44 +0100, Marco d'Itri wrote:
> On Mar 05, Marc Haber wrote:
>
> > Should Debian restrict itself to being a Linux platform just to have
> > systemd?
> If it is worth it, yes.
>
> Should Debian reject using component> just to support toy ports which are used by a dozen o
Andreas Tille:
> On Mon, Mar 05, 2012 at 04:42:50PM +0100, Reinhard Tartler wrote:
> > In summary, I can only advise everyone against enabling that
> > repository on any machine.
>
> If I would have time to become a pkg-multimedia member I would try to
> establish installing multimedia application
On Tue, Mar 06, 2012 at 09:47:28AM +0100, Thomas Koch wrote:
> could you point me to the necessary documentation, please? I'd like to enable
> the non-free repo, but only pick a few packages from it. How can I do this?
man apt_preferences
> This would also be useful to pick only a few packages
On Tue, Mar 06, 2012 at 07:54:43AM +, Lars Wirzenius wrote:
> On Tue, Mar 06, 2012 at 08:07:37AM +0100, Wouter Verhelst wrote:
> > So far, I haven't seen any features in systemd that outweigh those. And
> > the fact that upstream is lazy and doesn't want to do this portability
> > thing shouldn
On Tue, Mar 06, 2012 at 10:23:33AM +0900, Norbert Preining wrote:
> On Di, 06 Mär 2012, Jonas Smedegaard wrote:
> > > the Blends framework. I would most probably drop some file
> > >
> > >/etc/apt/preferences.d/01-disable-dmo.pref
> > >
> > > in multimedia-config metapackage (where all other
On Tue, Mar 06, 2012 at 07:23:53AM +, Philip Hands wrote:
> On Tue, 6 Mar 2012 08:07:37 +0100, Wouter Verhelst wrote:
>
> > So far, I haven't seen any features in systemd that outweigh those. And
> > the fact that upstream is lazy and doesn't want to do this portability
> > thing shouldn'
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On 03/06/2012 03:55 PM, Paul Wise wrote:
> On Tue, Mar 6, 2012 at 3:44 PM, Stefano Zacchiroli wrote:
>
>
>> Now, is anyone against publishing the list of debian.net entries and the
>> entry <-> registrant association (provided the above conditions are
>> met)?
>>
> That is already published
On Tue, Feb 28, 2012 at 07:18:51PM +0100, Christoph Egger wrote:
>
> Uoti Urpala writes:
> > I think it's quite arrogant of BSD users to expect others to work to
> > support their systems.
>
> There's qute a difference between parts of debian expecting upstream to
> do the work and upstream host
On Tue, Mar 06, 2012 at 10:12:43AM +0100, Wouter Verhelst wrote:
> On Tue, Mar 06, 2012 at 07:54:43AM +, Lars Wirzenius wrote:
> > Er, let's not call upstream lazy just because they don't want to do
> > work that has no interest for themselves.
>
> I don't see what else I should call them.
I
On Sat, Feb 25, 2012 at 12:08:51AM +0100, Svante Signell wrote:
> > I think the fundamental problem is having kFreeBSD in Debian. It's too
> > much extra work and problems for limited benefit to a small number of
> > people. Holding things hostage with "you have to make this work on
> > kFreeBSD to
On Tue, Mar 6, 2012 at 5:43 PM, Thomas Goirand wrote:
> It's not *always* published.
> Try with ipv6 or mozilla.debian.net for example.
>
> Making this as a rule seems relevant and a good idea to me.
> It'd be even better if we could publish a list instead of only
> an individual if we want to (bu
Le 06/03/2012 01:56, Jonas Smedegaard a écrit :
> Debian now has a *changed* hard line against patent infringing software
> - resulting in more codecs supported in official Debian packages.
Perhaps, it is time to look at each package in d-m.o and list all
that are now equals (or better ?) in term
On Di, 06 Mär 2012, Andreas Tille wrote:
> I wonder what criterion of serios bug would apply here. Just for the
> sake of interest because I do not intend to implement this personally.
Too lazy to search for it, but overriding a configuration of a
system admin is for sure not allowed. If it would
On 12-03-06 at 11:24am, Vincent Danjean wrote:
> Le 06/03/2012 01:56, Jonas Smedegaard a écrit :
> > Debian now has a *changed* hard line against patent infringing
> > software - resulting in more codecs supported in official Debian
> > packages.
>
> Perhaps, it is time to look at each package i
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On Tue, Mar 06, 2012 at 10:12:43AM +0100, Wouter Verhelst wrote:
> On Tue, Mar 06, 2012 at 07:54:43AM +, Lars Wirzenius wrote:
> > Er, let's not call upstream lazy just because they don't want to do
> > work that has no interest for themselves.
>
> I don't see what else I should call them.
>
On Tue, Mar 06, 2012 at 02:08:00PM +, Jon Dowland wrote:
> The features you've defended FreeBSD for (jails, ZFS) are not portable either;
> which is to say, if you write software that depends on them, it won't work on
> Linux.
Very true.
However, the difference between the systemd position an
One more thing...
On Tue, Mar 06, 2012 at 02:08:00PM +, Jon Dowland wrote:
> On Tue, Mar 06, 2012 at 10:12:43AM +0100, Wouter Verhelst wrote:
> > But I do think that writing portable software isn't that hard, and that not
> > doing it is pure lazyness.
>
> It's not about difficulty, systemd i
On Tue, Mar 06, 2012 at 08:07:37AM +0100, Wouter Verhelst wrote:
> On Mon, Mar 05, 2012 at 02:44:45PM +0100, Marco d'Itri wrote:
> > On Mar 05, Marc Haber wrote:
> >
> > > Should Debian restrict itself to being a Linux platform just to have
> > > systemd?
> > If it is worth it, yes.
> >
> > Shou
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On Tue, Mar 06, 2012 at 03:58:49PM +, Ben Hutchings wrote:
> Do jails still provide features that LXC does not?
Like, say, any security separation at all?
LXC is a glorified chroot with some scheduler niceties and a way to set
default IP for a group of processes. If you want any security ben
]] Wouter Verhelst
> kFreeBSD is already part of Debian. Systemd is not. The answer would
> seem to be obvious.
$ rmadison systemd
systemd | 37-1| wheezy | source, amd64, armel, i386, ia64, mips, mipsel,
powerpc, s390, s390x, sparc
systemd | 37-1+b1 | wheezy | armhf
systemd | 37-1.1 | s
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I co-maintain the libidn package. As upstream, I recently relicensed it
from LGPLv2+ to GPLv2+|LGPLv3+. I'd like to upload the latest version
into Debian before Wheezy since a pretty nasty inifinte-loop bug has
been fixed. However, I am not certain what should be done before
uploading a re-licen
Hey.
Stupid question... but even for those packages, which Debian provides
now itself (by the fine work of the pkg-multimedia-maintainers)... are
they build with all the options enabled?
I believe to remember that there were some cases where mp4 stuff was
disabled then...
I surely haven't had t
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Wouter Verhelst wrote:
> On Tue, Mar 06, 2012 at 02:08:00PM +, Jon Dowland wrote:
> > On Tue, Mar 06, 2012 at 10:12:43AM +0100, Wouter Verhelst wrote:
> > > But I do think that writing portable software isn't that hard, and that
> > > not
> > > doing it is pure lazyness.
> >
> > It's not abou
Hi,
On Tue, Mar 6, 2012 at 7:46 PM, Josh Triplett wrote:
> To give one particular example: systemd uses Linux-specific features to
> accurately track all the processes started by a service, which allows
> accurate monitoring and shutdown of processes which could otherwise
> disassociate themselve
I would suggest asking the FSF licensing folks and debian-legal.
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On Mon, 5 Mar 2012 22:19:09 +0100
Stefano Zacchiroli wrote:
> On Mon, Mar 05, 2012 at 08:09:47PM +, Philipp Kern wrote:
> > The reason being what? We have ZIP password crackers in the
> > archive, too.
>
> Cracking ZIP passwords doesn't fall under the auspices of DMCA or your
> equivalent $
On Wed, Feb 29, 2012 at 09:54:56AM +0100, Goswin von Brederlow wrote:
> >> One of the worst contributors to the use of 'script' in upstart jobs
> >> instead of 'exec' is the need for backwards-compatibility with pre-upstart
> >> /etc/default/* files. The options here are all fairly poor:
> >> -
Le Wed, Feb 29, 2012 at 10:52:10PM +0100, Moritz Muehlenhoff a écrit :
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> Since it will be almost impossible to convert all packages before
> Wheezy freezes, a specific sub-group of packages receives targeted
> attention:
>
> * All packages, which have had a
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Hi Charles,
On 07.03.2012 00:58, Charles Plessy wrote:
> Would it be possible to pass -D_FORTIFY_SOURCE=2 in CFLAGS in
> addition to CPPFLAGS ?
Actually dpkg did in 1.16.1 which was reverted later (for good
reasons). See #643632 for details.
You ca
Charles Plessy (07/03/2012):
> But my main question is the following:
>
> In another bug, the problem is that CPPFLAGS is ignored in upstream's
> makefile. I understand that the semantics of CFLAGS and CPPFLAGS are
> not the same, but I also note that a large number of our upstreams are
> not ma
[Josh Triplett]
> To give one particular example: systemd uses Linux-specific features
> to accurately track all the processes started by a service, which
> allows accurate monitoring and shutdown of processes which could
> otherwise disassociate themselves from their parent processes via the
> us
Peter Samuelson (06/03/2012):
> This "one particular example" is the same feature (cgroups) that
> everyone keeps talking and talking about. Everyone keeps saying
> "systemd uses Linuxisms like cgroups", but nobody mentions any others.
> Is this the only major Linuxism in systemd, or is it just t
On Wed, 2012-03-07 at 10:35 +1100, Karl Goetz wrote:
> On Mon, 5 Mar 2012 22:19:09 +0100
> Stefano Zacchiroli wrote:
>
> > On Mon, Mar 05, 2012 at 08:09:47PM +, Philipp Kern wrote:
> > > The reason being what? We have ZIP password crackers in the
> > > archive, too.
> >
> > Cracking ZIP pas
I have resigned from Debian a while ago.
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On Tue, 6 Mar 2012 10:01:10 +, Jon Dowland
wrote:
>Are we asking different standards from systemd
>than we expect from core openssh?
The differences between systemd and openssh are that core OpenSSH does
not work on "our" main architecture, and that there is an active
non-Debian upstream for
* Simon Josefsson:
> I co-maintain the libidn package. As upstream, I recently relicensed it
> from LGPLv2+ to GPLv2+|LGPLv3+. I'd like to upload the latest version
> into Debian before Wheezy since a pretty nasty inifinte-loop bug has
> been fixed.
Should we get that into stable-security, unde
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