Re: upstart: please update to latest upstream version

Ben Hutchings writes: > On Tue, Feb 28, 2012 at 09:58:01PM +0100, Goswin von Brederlow wrote: >> Ben Hutchings writes: >> >> > On Tue, Feb 28, 2012 at 04:51:18PM +, Roger Leigh wrote: >> >> On Sat, Feb 25, 2012 at 12:17:43AM +0200, Uoti Urpala wrote: >> >> > Roger Leigh wrote: >> >> > > On

Re: upstart: please update to latest upstream version

Darren Salt writes: > I demand that Steve Langasek may or may not have written... > > [snip] >> One of the worst contributors to the use of 'script' in upstart jobs >> instead of 'exec' is the need for backwards-compatibility with pre-upstart >> /etc/default/* files. The options here are all fai

A few questions from a new DD

Hi, I got my DD status a few days ago. I have 2 questions: 1) How can I send email using my @debian.org as origin ? 2) I cannot login to debian servers (tried people.debian.org), I have a permission denied. My SSH key is not yet set, so I cannot login using it. I expected to be prompted for passwo

Re: A few questions from a new DD

olivier sallou writes: > 1) How can I send email using my @debian.org as origin ? That depends on the software you use. In "gnus" I have (setq user-mail-address "timo.lindf...@iki.fi") In evolution you'd select Edit->Preferences->Mail Accounts->New and just fill the "Email address" field. >

Re: A few questions from a new DD

On 2012-02-29 09:26, olivier sallou wrote: Hi, I got my DD status a few days ago. I have 2 questions: 1) How can I send email using my @debian.org [1] as origin ? Just set your From header accordingly. 2) I cannot login to debian servers (tried people.debian.org [2]), I have a permission den

Re: A few questions from a new DD

2012/2/29 Jonathan Wiltshire > On 2012-02-29 09:26, olivier sallou wrote: > >> Hi, >> I got my DD status a few days ago. I have 2 questions: >> >> 1) How can I send email using my @debian.org [1] as origin ? >> > > Just set your From header accordingly. > > 2) I cannot login to debian servers (t

Re: A few questions from a new DD

Hi! Am 29.02.2012 10:47, schrieb olivier sallou: > Yes, they are. You'll have to wait for your key to be pushed to the > machines you're interested in. > (You can log in to db.debian.org in the meantime) > I already logged to web interface to update my profile. >

Re: A few questions from a new DD

Hi, On Wed, Feb 29, 2012 at 10:56:28AM +0100, Alexander Reichle-Schmehl wrote: > > I already logged to web interface to update my profile. > > I do not see however any SSH key attribute in the web interface, did I > > miss something?. I know that it can be done via the GPG gateway, sending > > an

Rebuild of the Debian archive with clang

Hello, There are some results of the rebuild of the Debian archive with clang: http://clang.debian.net/ http://sylvestre.ledru.info/blog/sylvestre/2012/02/29/rebuild_of_the_debian_archive_with_clang Cheers, Sylvestre -- To UNSUBSCRIBE, email to debian-devel-requ...@lists.debian.org with a sub

Re: A few questions from a new DD

2012/2/29 Andreas Tille > Hi, > > On Wed, Feb 29, 2012 at 10:56:28AM +0100, Alexander Reichle-Schmehl wrote: > > > I already logged to web interface to update my profile. > > > I do not see however any SSH key attribute in the web interface, did I > > > miss something?. I know that it can be done

Re: A few questions from a new DD

On Wed, Feb 29, 2012 at 02:01:00PM +0100, olivier sallou wrote: > I could fix the problem using the mail gateway, I was just surprised that > it does not appear in web interface, and I could not see in Debian wiki > that SSH key is mandatory for login. Whether it is the case or not (I don't rememb

Network Security Toolkit

Hello everyone. Today I've read my RSS feeds and got know about new release of NST LiveCD. There's things I've never seen. I've been reading more about this project and I've liked abilities providing by this project. The thing I want very much is to imagine ping/traceroute/geolocate information

Re: Network Security Toolkit

On Wed, 29 Feb 2012 18:35:42 +0400 Dmitrii Kashin wrote: > Today I've read my RSS feeds and got know about new release of NST > LiveCD. As a LiveCD, it isn't suitable as a package in Debian itself, you would have to convince upstream to support Debian, not the other way around. Probably the best

Bug#658139: evince: missing mime entry

hi all, i'm having the same problem described on 31 Jan 2012 by Andreas Tille: see, mutt and all other programs depending on mailcap are not able to open PDF files with **evince** please see Debian policy 9.7 about multimedia handlers: http://www.debian.org/doc/debian-policy/ch-opersys.html#s-mim

Bug#658139: evince: missing mime entry

On Wed, 29 Feb 2012, Giovanni Biscuolo wrote: > so the proposed solution is that *users* will maintain mime-support > database by hand? No. > the idea not to maintain 2 files containing the same information is > interesting and should be done with proper tools on maintainers side, > not on users

Re: Rebuild of the Debian archive with clang

On Wed, Feb 29, 2012 at 01:47:45PM +0100, Sylvestre Ledru wrote: > There are some results of the rebuild of the Debian archive with clang: > http://clang.debian.net/ > http://sylvestre.ledru.info/blog/sylvestre/2012/02/29/rebuild_of_the_debian_archive_with_clang That's very interesting, thanks! I c

Re: Rebuild of the Debian archive with clang

Le mercredi 29 février 2012 à 22:07 +0600, Andrey Rahmatullin a écrit : > On Wed, Feb 29, 2012 at 01:47:45PM +0100, Sylvestre Ledru wrote: > > There are some results of the rebuild of the Debian archive with clang: > > http://clang.debian.net/ > > http://sylvestre.ledru.info/blog/sylvestre/2012/02/

Bug#658139: evince: missing mime entry

On Wed, Feb 29, 2012 at 04:59:32PM +0100, Raphael Hertzog wrote: > Russ Alberry gave some tentative spec for such a tool: > http://lists.debian.org/87k446oqzh@windlord.stanford.edu Quoting this mail: I think one has to make the assumption that one can add %s after Exec in order to load

Re: A few questions from a new DD

On Wed, 29 Feb 2012, Stefano Zacchiroli wrote: > On Wed, Feb 29, 2012 at 02:01:00PM +0100, olivier sallou wrote: > > I could fix the problem using the mail gateway, I was just surprised that > > it does not appear in web interface, and I could not see in Debian wiki > > that SSH key is mandatory f

Re: Bug#658139: evince: missing mime entry

On 2012-02-29, Andreas Tille wrote: > On Wed, Feb 29, 2012 at 04:59:32PM +0100, Raphael Hertzog wrote: >> Russ Alberry gave some tentative spec for such a tool: >> http://lists.debian.org/87k446oqzh@windlord.stanford.edu > Quoting this mail: > >I think one has to make the >assumption t

Bug#658139: evince: missing mime entry

Le mercredi 29 février 2012 à 17:24 +0100, Andreas Tille a écrit : > I'd consider the "chance to write something which might probably work in > most cases" as a weak excuse to drop a solution that worked for years > and would continue working quite reasonable. I agree that duplication > of code/d

Re: Network Security Toolkit

On Wed, 29 Feb 2012 15:12:50 +, Neil Williams wrote: > On Wed, 29 Feb 2012 18:35:42 +0400 > Dmitrii Kashin wrote: > > > Today I've read my RSS feeds and got know about new release of NST > > LiveCD. > > As a LiveCD, it isn't suitable as a package in Debian itself, you would > have to convin

Re: upstart: please update to latest upstream version

On Feb 29, Goswin von Brederlow wrote: > Lets hope it is improving. But that only shows that depending on > controversial linux features should still be a concern. Expect more of the same (IIRC in the next upload), because the udev upstream maintainer likes to use modern kernel features. The same

Re: Network Security Toolkit

Philip Hands writes: > Neil, > > I think Dmitrii was suggesting that there are some utilities that are > used to do the geolocation stuff that are not currently packaged for > Debian, which was surprising to him, given their apparent utility, so > he's wondering if there's some other issue that h

Bug#661727: general: When I manually turn off the wifi from the laptop special button, Debian freeze

Package: general Severity: important When I manually turn off the wifi from the laptop special button, Debian freeze, even caps lock not working -- System Information: Debian Release: 6.0.4 APT prefers stable APT policy: (500, 'stable') Architecture: amd64 (x86_64) Kernel: Linux 2.6.32-5-a

Bug#661727: marked as done (general: When I manually turn off the wifi from the laptop special button, Debian freeze)

Your message dated Wed, 29 Feb 2012 19:26:27 + with message-id <20120229192627.gr12...@decadent.org.uk> and subject line Re: Bug#661727: general: When I manually turn off the wifi from the laptop special button, Debian freeze has caused the Debian Bug report #661727, regarding general: When I

Re: upstart: please update to latest upstream version

On Thu, 1 Mar 2012, "Marco d'Itri" wrote: > > them. But that isn't really the kernels fault. It's udevs fault for not > > supporting both ways from the start. > > Talk is cheap. Supporting both sysfs layouts would have had a > significant maintenance overhead. > Red Hat does not support upgrading

Re: Multiarch file overlap summary and proposal (was: Summary: dpkg shared / reference counted files and version match)

On Wed, 2012-02-15 at 16:41:21 +, Ian Jackson wrote: > Guillem Jover writes ("Re: Multiarch file overlap summary and proposal (was: > Summary: dpkg shared / reference counted files and version match)"): > > [...] But trying to workaround this by coming > > up with stacks of hacked up solutio

Re: Rebuild of the Debian archive with clang

On 29/02/12 at 17:19 +0100, Sylvestre Ledru wrote: > To answer to a question that I received in private, I updated Lucas > Nussbaum's scripts [1] to manage clang outputs. I will merge that in the > svn once I will be sure I won't mess up between gcc & clang outputs. > The list on clang.d.n are gene

Re: A few questions from a new DD

olivier sallou dijo [Wed, Feb 29, 2012 at 02:01:00PM +0100]: > > cat ~/.ssh/.pub | gpg --clearsign > send_this_to_changes > > echo "cat send_this_to_changes | mailx -s "Please change SSH key" > > chan...@db.debian.org" > > > > > I could fix the problem using the mail gateway, I was just surprised

Re: upstart: please update to latest upstream version

On Feb 29, Russell Coker wrote: > One thing that would be really convenient in such situations is the ability > to > have the old and new versions of the package installed such that the new > version would run the old version if appropriate. Yes. Except that this was not applicable to udev bec

Re: Network Security Toolkit

On 02/29/2012 07:41 PM, Dmitrii Kashin wrote: > Okay. Here are listed all packages LiveCD contain: > http://networksecuritytoolkit.org/nst/log/manifest.html please compare this with the list for the "rescue" flavour[0] of debians live images and send it to debian-l...@lists.debian.org, we're happy

Bug#658139: evince: missing mime entry

Hi, On Wed, Feb 29, 2012 at 05:44:57PM +0100, Josselin Mouette wrote: > Le mercredi 29 février 2012 à 17:24 +0100, Andreas Tille a écrit : > > I'd consider the "chance to write something which might probably work in > > most cases" as a weak excuse to drop a solution that worked for years > > and

Re: Multiarch file overlap summary and proposal

On Wed, 2012-02-15 at 19:31:10 -0800, Russ Allbery wrote: > I agree that it's asymmetric. apt-get install libfoo means libfoo:native, > but apt-get remove libfoo means libfoo:*. And asymmetric is bad, all > things being equal. But I think this may be one place where asymmetric is > still the rig

Re: Multiarch file overlap summary and proposal

Guillem Jover writes: > On Wed, 2012-02-15 at 19:31:10 -0800, Russ Allbery wrote: >> I think that the best long-term way to handle binNMUs may be to move >> the build number into a different piece of package metadata from the >> version. So a binNMU of a package with version 1.4-1 would still ha

Re: Network Security Toolkit

[Dmitrii Kashin] > Utilities I am interested in: > 1) nsttraceroute (GPLv2) > 2) nstgeolocate (GPLv2) > > I have not seen more, but we can make sure that all of 'nst*'-utils > provide some geolocation stuff in many different formats; all of them > distribute under free GPL license, and all of them

Re: Network Security Toolkit

Hi, On Wed, Feb 29, 2012 at 3:41 PM, Dmitrii Kashin wrote: >> A list of the actual utilities that you are interested in would help >> people to answer your question. > > Okay. Here are listed all packages LiveCD contain: > http://networksecuritytoolkit.org/nst/log/manifest.html > Here are also de

Re: Enabling hardened build flags for Wheezy

Am 29.02.2012 22:52, schrieb Moritz Muehlenhoff: > The most important reason for dpkg-buildflags is [1.] : > One of the Wheezy release goals is to build as many packages as > possible with a hardened toolchain by means of dpkg-buildflags: > http://wiki.debian.org/ReleaseGoals/SecurityHardeningBuild

Re: Enabling hardened build flags for Wheezy

Patrick Matthäi writes: > I fully support the hardening goal. > May it be an option to add lintian errors (also non-fatal errors on > ftp-master side) about missing-hardening-build in the future? > It may be too late for Wheezy to force packages to build with hardened > build flags, but we shoul

Re: Enabling hardened build flags for Wheezy

Am 29.02.2012 23:57, schrieb Russ Allbery: > Patrick Matthäi writes: > >> I fully support the hardening goal. >> May it be an option to add lintian errors (also non-fatal errors on >> ftp-master side) about missing-hardening-build in the future? > >> It may be too late for Wheezy to force packag

Re: Enabling hardened build flags for Wheezy

Personally I think this is completely the wrong approach to take for compiler hardening flags. The flags should be enabled by default in upstream GCC and disabled by upstream software where they result in problems. The compiler hardening flags have been tested over N years by RHEL, Fedora, Ubuntu,

Re: Enabling hardened build flags for Wheezy

Hi, On Wed, Feb 29, 2012 at 9:23 PM, Paul Wise wrote: > Personally I think this is completely the wrong approach to take for > compiler hardening flags. The flags should be enabled by default in > upstream GCC and disabled by upstream software where they result in > problems. The compiler hardeni

Re: Enabling hardened build flags for Wheezy

Paul Wise writes: > Personally I think this is completely the wrong approach to take for > compiler hardening flags. The flags should be enabled by default in > upstream GCC and disabled by upstream software where they result in > problems. If we had followed that approach, we wouldn't have been

Re: Multiarch file overlap summary and proposal

On Thu, 2012-02-16 at 10:43:53 -0800, Russ Allbery wrote: > I was thinking more about this, and I was finally able to put a finger on > why I don't like package splitting as a solution. > > We know from prior experience with splitting packages for large > arch-independent data that one of the more

Re: Enabling hardened build flags for Wheezy

I've written conversion documentation in the Debian Wiki to provide central step-by-step documentation: http://wiki.debian.org/HardeningWalkthrough In this wiki, we read: ``If you upgrade to compat level 9'' How can we safely upgrade from 8 to 9 ? Thanks in advance, Jerome -- To UNSUBSC

Re: Multiarch file overlap summary and proposal

Guillem Jover writes: > On Thu, 2012-02-16 at 10:43:53 -0800, Russ Allbery wrote: >> I was thinking more about this, and I was finally able to put a finger >> on why I don't like package splitting as a solution. >> We know from prior experience with splitting packages for large >> arch-independe

Re: Multiarch file overlap summary and proposal

On Wed, 2012-02-15 at 16:32:38 -0800, Russ Allbery wrote: > Guillem Jover writes: > > If packages have to be split anyway to cope with the other cases, then > > the number of new packages which might not be needed otherwise will be > > even smaller than the predicted amount, at which point it make

Re: Multiarch file overlap summary and proposal

Guillem Jover writes: > About tightly-coupled files, they can cause serious issues also with > refcounting, consider that there's always going to be a point when > unpacking one of the new instances will have a completely different > vesion than the other already unpacked instance(s). So packages

ITP: oqapy -- Photographic workflow application

Package: wnpp Severity: wishlist Owner: Vincent Vande Vyvre * Package name: oqapy Version : 1.0 Upstream Author : Vincent Vande Vyvre vincent.vandevy...@swing.be * URL : http://www.oqapy.eu * License : GPL3 Programming Lang: Python Description : Photog

Re: Bug#661565: ITP: nyancat -- Terminal-based Pop Tart Cat animation

Jonathan McCrohan writes: > I certainly don't plan on uploading and abandoning this package, but > given the high level of opposition to this ITP, guess there is little > point pursuing it. There's some whining by the usual sorts, but why would anyone pay attention to them...? -miles -- Bacchu

Re: Enabling hardened build flags for Wheezy

On 01/03/12 03:09, Jerome BENOIT wrote: I've written conversion documentation in the Debian Wiki to provide central step-by-step documentation: http://wiki.debian.org/HardeningWalkthrough In this wiki, we read: ``If you upgrade to compat level 9'' How can we safely upgrade from 8 to 9 ?