Re: Bug#651093: ITP: libyui -- Qt, GTK+ and ncurses UI-Engine

2011-12-07 Thread Miles Bader
Björn Esser writes: > So how shall I name it then? Given that there isn't actually any conflict, that the two libraries are in different "domains" (one C/C++, the other html/javascript), and that neither of them appears to be heavily used (though the lib used in yast seems to get many more google

Detect if root login is disabled?

2011-12-07 Thread Daniel Hartwig
Hello I am looking at Bug#516854 and wondering: Is there a robust way for a *user* to detect if root login is disabled? Would like to perform such a check from an instance of aptitude running as a user account. I am aware of the following method which detects the `passwd -l' style lock, however

Re: Red Hat is moving from / to /usr/

2011-12-07 Thread Simon McVittie
On Wed, 07 Dec 2011 at 01:43:34 +0100, Marco d'Itri wrote: > http://git.kernel.org/?p=linux/hotplug/udev.git;a=commitdiff;h=12a362be5c1982f80dbfb75bda070208a2c99cdf > > Discuss. As far as I can make out, their position is that a separate /usr is now only supported if you mount it from the initrd

Re: Red Hat is moving from / to /usr/

2011-12-07 Thread Goswin von Brederlow
m...@linux.it (Marco d'Itri) writes: > http://git.kernel.org/?p=linux/hotplug/udev.git;a=commitdiff;h=12a362be5c1982f80dbfb75bda070208a2c99cdf > > Discuss. > > -- > ciao, > Marco Give everyone at least 10 years headstart to migrate existing systems away from having a seperate /usr partition and

Re: 486 still being sold NEW / was Re: Increasing minimum 'i386' processor

2011-12-07 Thread David Goodenough
On Wednesday 07 Dec 2011, Toni Mueller wrote: > On 11/21/2011 07:52 PM, Ben Hutchings wrote: > > Since we're theorising, rather than talking about actual users, my > > theory is that these are sold as replacements for installed systems, > > which will run the exact same software as the original - n

Re: Red Hat is moving from / to /usr/

2011-12-07 Thread Marco d'Itri
On Dec 07, Goswin von Brederlow wrote: > Give everyone at least 10 years headstart to migrate existing systems > away from having a seperate /usr partition and for people to stop making > a seperate /usr on new installs. Actually, Red Hat's goal *is* to support a separate /usr, they just want to

Re: Red Hat is moving from / to /usr/

2011-12-07 Thread Stephan Seitz
On Wed, Dec 07, 2011 at 11:34:34AM +0100, Marco d'Itri wrote: Actually, Red Hat's goal *is* to support a separate /usr, they just want to have the initramfs mount it. But as was seen in the last discussion, not everyone *has* an initramfs, because it is not needed in many cases or sometimes ev

Re: Red Hat is moving from / to /usr/

2011-12-07 Thread Philip Hands
On Wed, 7 Dec 2011 09:00:35 +, Simon McVittie wrote: > On Wed, 07 Dec 2011 at 01:43:34 +0100, Marco d'Itri wrote: > > http://git.kernel.org/?p=linux/hotplug/udev.git;a=commitdiff;h=12a362be5c1982f80dbfb75bda070208a2c99cdf > > > > Discuss. > > As far as I can make out, their position is that

Re: Red Hat is moving from / to /usr/

2011-12-07 Thread Igor Pashev
07.12.2011 04:43, Marco d'Itri пишет: > http://git.kernel.org/?p=linux/hotplug/udev.git;a=commitdiff;h=12a362be5c1982f80dbfb75bda070208a2c99cdf > > Discuss. > I don't see any reason to move all into /usr from /, and make initrd for minimal system: Making self-contained initrd is the same proble

Re: Detect if root login is disabled?

2011-12-07 Thread Igor Pashev
07.12.2011 12:53, Daniel Hartwig пишет: > Hello > > I am looking at Bug#516854 and wondering: > > Is there a robust way for a *user* to detect if root login is > disabled? Would like to perform such a check from an instance of > aptitude running as a user account. > > I am aware of the followin

Re: Red Hat is moving from / to /usr/

2011-12-07 Thread Marco d'Itri
On Dec 07, Stephan Seitz wrote: > But as was seen in the last discussion, not everyone *has* an > initramfs, because it is not needed in many cases or sometimes even > not supported on the platform. And as was seen, most of these setups can be modified to support this scheme. I also have a few id

Re: Detect if root login is disabled?

2011-12-07 Thread Rodolfo kix Garcia
On Wed, 07 Dec 2011 15:42:12 +0400, Igor Pashev wrote: 07.12.2011 12:53, Daniel Hartwig пишет: Hello I am looking at Bug#516854 and wondering: Is there a robust way for a *user* to detect if root login is disabled? Would like to perform such a check from an instance of aptitude running as a u

Re: Detect if root login is disabled?

2011-12-07 Thread Daniel Hartwig
Igor Pashev wrote: > su? su doesn't distinguish between a locked password and an incorrectly entered one. Would like to know the locked status before trying su so that the program can either fall back to sudo or give an error message more informative than just "incorrect password". -- To UNSU

Re: Red Hat is moving from / to /usr/

2011-12-07 Thread Stephan Seitz
On Wed, Dec 07, 2011 at 01:11:56PM +0100, Marco d'Itri wrote: On Dec 07, Stephan Seitz wrote: But as was seen in the last discussion, not everyone *has* an initramfs, because it is not needed in many cases or sometimes even not supported on the platform. And as was seen, most of these setups c

Re: Red Hat is moving from / to /usr/

2011-12-07 Thread Marco d'Itri
On Dec 07, Stephan Seitz wrote: > Yes, but by the admin, not by Debian, and the admin may not be > interested in adding a new layer of possible failures, because it > works. And other admins may be interested in the important features which everything-in-usr supports. Who is going to win? > Well

Re: Detect if root login is disabled?

2011-12-07 Thread Lars Wirzenius
On Wed, Dec 07, 2011 at 08:15:42PM +0800, Daniel Hartwig wrote: > Would like to know the locked status before trying su so that the > program can either fall back to sudo or give an error message more > informative than just "incorrect password". What is the security implication of letting anyone

Re: Red Hat is moving from / to /usr/

2011-12-07 Thread Thomas Goirand
On 12/07/2011 07:03 PM, Philip Hands wrote: > > Personally, I think that resorting to rescue media is something of an > admission of defeat, but I'm probably a bit odd ;-) > You're not Phil, I agree with the above statement! Thomas (zigo) -- To UNSUBSCRIBE, email to debian-devel-requ...@list

Re: Red Hat is moving from / to /usr/

2011-12-07 Thread Sune Vuorela
On 2011-12-07, Philip Hands wrote: > Personally, I think that resorting to rescue media is something of an > admission of defeat, but I'm probably a bit odd ;-) I recent followed a recovery in a irc channel after installing a wrong-architecture libc on a system. Only access was 2 existing root co

Re: Red Hat is moving from / to /usr/

2011-12-07 Thread Stephan Seitz
On Wed, Dec 07, 2011 at 01:44:28PM +0100, Marco d'Itri wrote: On Dec 07, Stephan Seitz wrote: Yes, but by the admin, not by Debian, and the admin may not be interested in adding a new layer of possible failures, because it works. And other admins may be interested in the important features whi

Re: 486 still being sold NEW / was Re: Increasing minimum 'i386' processor

2011-12-07 Thread Ben Hutchings
On Wed, 2011-12-07 at 09:43 +, David Goodenough wrote: > On Wednesday 07 Dec 2011, Toni Mueller wrote: > > On 11/21/2011 07:52 PM, Ben Hutchings wrote: > > > Since we're theorising, rather than talking about actual users, my > > > theory is that these are sold as replacements for installed syst

Re: dpkg-buildpackage and new "-indep" debhelper options

2011-12-07 Thread Anton Gladky
Thank you, Roger, for your extended response. > What is preventing you from building the docs in build-indep? I am trying it to do it now, using new -indep and -arch options. > Are you using the latest debhelper? Yes, 8.9.11 I have simplified debian/rules:

Re: dpkg-buildpackage and new "-indep" debhelper options

2011-12-07 Thread Roger Leigh
On Wed, Dec 07, 2011 at 05:17:47PM +0100, Anton Gladky wrote: > Thank you, Roger, for your extended response. > > > What is preventing you from building the docs in build-indep? > I am trying it to do it now, using new -indep and -arch options. > > > Are you using the latest debhelper? > Yes, 8.

Re: 2.6+ kernel make-tag problem

2011-12-07 Thread John D. Hendrickson and Sara Darnell
in reply to darkestkhan Thank you very much for even showing concern about root=, uuid, newbies, lk README. I was commenting on [improvements] that may dis-courage newbies for lack of howto. Sorry this is long but it is work I can't do again later. I spent a good hour searching google and

Re: dpkg-buildpackage and new "-indep" debhelper options

2011-12-07 Thread Anton Gladky
Ok, thank you for clarifying. I have subscribed myself to the bug 629385 Anton On Wed, Dec 7, 2011 at 5:34 PM, Roger Leigh wrote: > On Wed, Dec 07, 2011 at 05:17:47PM +0100, Anton Gladky wrote: >> Thank you, Roger, for your extended response. >> >> >  What is preventing you from building the d

Bug#651324: ITP: python-potr -- Pure Python implementation of the OTR protocol

2011-12-07 Thread Hans-Christoph Steiner
Package: wnpp Severity: wishlist Owner: "Hans-Christoph Steiner" * Package name: python-potr Version : 1.0.0b Upstream Author : Kjell Braden * URL : http://python-otr.pentabarf.de/ * License : LGPL-3+ Programming Lang: Python Description : Pure Python

Re: Red Hat is moving from / to /usr/

2011-12-07 Thread Joerg Jaspert
On 12687 March 1977, Marco d'Itri wrote: > http://git.kernel.org/?p=linux/hotplug/udev.git;a=commitdiff;h=12a362be5c1982f80dbfb75bda070208a2c99cdf > Discuss. Nice link, though using https would be oh-so-much-more-secure. [BLA] Maybe you should actually deliver some content to discuss and not expe

Bug#651338: ITP: libxmlwrapp -- xmlwrapp is a modern style lightweight C++ library for parsing XML

2011-12-07 Thread Marcin Kulisz (kuLa)
Package: wnpp Severity: wishlist Owner: "Marcin Kulisz (kuLa)" * Package name: libxmlwrapp Version : 0.6.2 Upstream Author : Peter J Jones, Vaclav Slavik * URL : https://github.com/vslavik/xmlwrapp * License : BSD Programming Lang: C++ Description : xm

Getting dh_install to do what we need

2011-12-07 Thread Josselin Mouette
For those who haven’t followed, the latest debhelper upload includes the following change: * Debhelper config files may be made executable programs that output the desired configuration. No further changes are planned to the config file format; those needing powerful syntaxes may now

Re: Getting dh_install to do what we need

2011-12-07 Thread Don Armstrong
On Wed, 07 Dec 2011, Josselin Mouette wrote: > So, to sum it up. Before, you would do in debian/rules: > sed s/@DEB_HOST_MULTIARCH@/${DEB_HOST_MULTIARCH}/ > debian/libfoo.install.in > debian/libfoo.install > > Now, you will do in debian/foo.install: > #! /bin/sh > sed s/

Re: Getting dh_install to do what we need

2011-12-07 Thread Gergely Nagy
Josselin Mouette writes: > So, to sum it up. Before, you would do in debian/rules: > sed s/@DEB_HOST_MULTIARCH@/${DEB_HOST_MULTIARCH}/ > debian/libfoo.install.in > debian/libfoo.install > > Now, you will do in debian/foo.install: > #! /bin/sh > sed s/@DEB_HOST_MULTIARCH

Re: Getting dh_install to do what we need

2011-12-07 Thread Arno Töll
-BEGIN PGP SIGNED MESSAGE- Hash: SHA1 Hi, I am pretty sure I'll regret to comment on this thread soonish, but ... On 08.12.2011 00:12, Gergely Nagy wrote: > I'd like to offer another option: deal with it, and instead of doing any > of the above (none of which would be a good idea in the

Re: 2.6+ kernel make-tag problem

2011-12-07 Thread John D. Hendrickson and Sara Darnell
Correcting myself! sorry. not sure anyone cares. I said "make deb-pkg" didn't leave me any .deb ** "make deb-pkg" did make 4 .deb packages. they are in "$(srctree)/../", and one I tried is good. "make tar-pkg" leaves it in "$(srctree)/" and I'm still unsure how i would know to look in ".."

Bug#651363: ITP: python-github2 -- Library to expose all the version 2 Github API over Python

2011-12-07 Thread Paul Tagliamonte
Package: wnpp Severity: wishlist Owner: Paul Tagliamonte * Package name: python-github2 Version : 0.5.2 Upstream Author : Ask Solem * URL : http://packages.python.org/github2/ * License : Expat Programming Lang: Python Description : Library to expose a

Re: Getting dh_install to do what we need

2011-12-07 Thread Chow Loong Jin
On 08/12/2011 07:12, Gergely Nagy wrote: > > And by extend, I mean something like: > > , > | #! /usr/bin/dh_multiarchify > | /usr/lib/${DEB_HOST_MULTIARCH}/* > ` > > The /usr/bin/dh_multiarchify script would do the sed magic. This would > make the simple cases simple, and would still all

Re: Getting dh_install to do what we need

2011-12-07 Thread Chow Loong Jin
On 08/12/2011 07:12, Gergely Nagy wrote: > > And by extend, I mean something like: > > , > | #! /usr/bin/dh_multiarchify > | /usr/lib/${DEB_HOST_MULTIARCH}/* > ` > > The /usr/bin/dh_multiarchify script would do the sed magic. This would > make the simple cases simple, and would still all

Bug#651368: ITP: node-mongodb -- node.js driver for MongoDB

2011-12-07 Thread Martin Skøtt
Package: wnpp Severity: wishlist Owner: "Martin Skøtt" -BEGIN PGP SIGNED MESSAGE- Hash: SHA256 * Package name: node-mongodb Version : 0.9.7.1.4 Upstream Author : Christian Amor Kvalheim * URL : https://github.com/christkv/node-mongodb-native * License

Re: Getting dh_install to do what we need

2011-12-07 Thread Gergely Nagy
Chow Loong Jin writes: > On 08/12/2011 07:12, Gergely Nagy wrote: >> >> And by extend, I mean something like: >> >> , >> | #! /usr/bin/dh_multiarchify >> | /usr/lib/${DEB_HOST_MULTIARCH}/* >> ` >> >> The /usr/bin/dh_multiarchify script would do the sed magic. This would >> make the sim