Re: How to solve race condition between IPv6 ifup and start of services?

2011-05-22 Thread Adam Borowski
On Sat, May 21, 2011 at 03:42:51PM -0700, Steve Langasek wrote: > On Sat, May 21, 2011 at 03:01:39PM +0200, Marc Haber wrote: > > with the increasing deployment of IPv6 I begin to see an issue > > icreasingly often: When an interface is configured for IPv6, it takes > > a few seconds before the IPv

Bug#627583: ITP: libtest-www-mechanize-psgi-perl -- override LWP's HTTP/HTTPS backend with your own PSGI application

2011-05-22 Thread Jonas Smedegaard
Package: wnpp Severity: wishlist Owner: Jonas Smedegaard * Package name: libtest-www-mechanize-psgi-perl Version : 0.02 Upstream Author : Tatsuhiko Miyagawa * URL : http://search.cpan.org/dist/LWP-Protocol-PSGI/ * License : Artistic or GPL-1+ Programming Lan

Bug#627584: ITP: libplack-middleware-file-sass-perl -- Sass and SCSS support for all Plack-based PSGI frameworks

2011-05-22 Thread Jonas Smedegaard
Package: wnpp Severity: wishlist Owner: Jonas Smedegaard * Package name: libplack-middleware-file-sass-perl Version : 0.03 Upstream Author : Tatsuhiko Miyagawa * URL : http://search.cpan.org/dist/Plack-Middleware-File-Sass/ * License : Artistic or GPL-1+ Pro

Re: Bits from the Release Team - Kicking off Wheezy

2011-05-22 Thread Neil McGovern
On Tue, Mar 29, 2011 at 10:51:02AM +0100, Neil McGovern wrote: > Sprint > -- > We feel it would be useful for the Release Team as a whole to get > together to think about what the plans are for the next release. As > such, we're planning a sprint to meet in person. Details will follow > once di

Re: Conditional Recommends

2011-05-22 Thread Eugene V. Lyubimkin
On 2011-05-21 21:41, Ian Jackson wrote: > Simpler than this, and simpler than constructions involving negations > (which would be very troublesome for the resolution algorithms), would > be: > > Package: A-plugin-B > Depends: A, B > Recommended-When: A, B Putting my 'developer of unpopular

Re: How to solve race condition between IPv6 ifup and start of services?

2011-05-22 Thread Marc Haber
On Sun, 22 May 2011 00:29:35 +0200, Goswin von Brederlow wrote: >(c) Modify ifupdown to notice when additional IP addresses come up (or >go away) and run the ifup.d (ifdown.d) scripts for it. One would need an ifupdownd for this. I don't think that's realistic. Greetings Marc -- ---

Re: How to solve race condition between IPv6 ifup and start of services?

2011-05-22 Thread Marc Haber
On Sat, 21 May 2011 15:42:51 -0700, Steve Langasek wrote: >With an event-based init system such as upstart, you could also set up the >service not to start until the specified interface is fully configured. Issue (1): We don't have event-based init system yet Issue (2): When is an IPv6 interface

Re: How to solve race condition between IPv6 ifup and start of services?

2011-05-22 Thread Marc Haber
On Sun, 22 May 2011 02:11:00 +0100, Ian Jackson wrote: >Marc Haber writes ("How to solve race condition between IPv6 ifup and start of >services?"): >> Is there a widely accepted method to do things any easier? It is >> clearly not acceptable to have to manually log in to a newly booted >> server

Re: How to solve race condition between IPv6 ifup and start of services?

2011-05-22 Thread Goswin von Brederlow
Marc Haber writes: > On Sun, 22 May 2011 00:29:35 +0200, Goswin von Brederlow > wrote: >>(c) Modify ifupdown to notice when additional IP addresses come up (or >>go away) and run the ifup.d (ifdown.d) scripts for it. > > One would need an ifupdownd for this. I don't think that's realistic. > > G

Re: Conditional Recommends

2011-05-22 Thread Goswin von Brederlow
"Eugene V. Lyubimkin" writes: > On 2011-05-21 21:41, Ian Jackson wrote: >> Simpler than this, and simpler than constructions involving negations >> (which would be very troublesome for the resolution algorithms), would >> be: >> >> Package: A-plugin-B >> Depends: A, B >> Recommended-When:

RSA host key for git.debian.org has changed ?

2011-05-22 Thread Jérémy Lal
Sorry if i missed some information, is it me or it has really changed ? Jérémy. -- To UNSUBSCRIBE, email to debian-devel-requ...@lists.debian.org with a subject of "unsubscribe". Trouble? Contact listmas...@lists.debian.org Archive: http://lists.debian.org/4dd8dc5a.1050...@edagames.com

Changed ssh key on git.debian.org

2011-05-22 Thread Klaus Ethgen
-BEGIN PGP SIGNED MESSAGE- Hash: SHA512 Hello, I read something about changes on alioth but there was nothing mentioned about a changed ssh key. Today I tried to push some changes to geeqie and was warned that the ssh key of git.debian.org did change. Is that a documented change anywhere

Re: Conditional Recommends

2011-05-22 Thread Ove Kåven
Den 21. mai 2011 13:24, skrev Josselin Mouette: > * Do you think it would be useful? For the Wine packages, it would certainly be mighty useful. Except, of course, that multiarch would make such a thing less effective on amd64, since cross-arch deps are not supported, and so users will sti

Re: How to solve race condition between IPv6 ifup and start of services?

2011-05-22 Thread Bjørn Mork
Marc Haber writes: > On Sat, 21 May 2011 15:42:51 -0700, Steve Langasek > wrote: >>With an event-based init system such as upstart, you could also set up the >>service not to start until the specified interface is fully configured. > > Issue (1): We don't have event-based init system yet > Issue

Re: RSA host key for git.debian.org has changed ?

2011-05-22 Thread Paul Wise
On Sun, May 22, 2011 at 5:50 PM, Jérémy Lal wrote: > Sorry if i missed some information, > is it me or it has really changed ? http://lists.debian.org/debian-devel-announce/2011/05/msg7.html http://lists.debian.org/debian-devel-announce/2011/05/msg8.html Probably you should be subscribed

Re: Changed ssh key on git.debian.org

2011-05-22 Thread Paul Wise
On Sun, May 22, 2011 at 5:27 PM, Klaus Ethgen wrote: > I read something about changes on alioth but there was nothing mentioned > about a changed ssh key. Today I tried to push some changes to geeqie > and was warned that the ssh key of git.debian.org did change. > > Is that a documented change a

Re: 'Alioth' status update

2011-05-22 Thread Kai Wasserbäch
Dear Stephen, Stephen Gran schrieb am 22.05.2011 12:27: > Some bits of the infrastructure are still being bolted back together, > and we expect to send further status updates as they happen. I might have missed that bit of information, but does the above mean, that the Gitweb instance will be back

Re: Changed ssh key on git.debian.org

2011-05-22 Thread Eugene V. Lyubimkin
> http://lists.debian.org/debian-devel-announce/2011/05/msg7.html > http://lists.debian.org/debian-devel-announce/2011/05/msg8.html > > Probably you should be subscribed to d-d-a and reading the list. Both questions were posted before that d-d-a ones. -- Eugene V. Lyubimkin aka JackYF,

Re: Changed ssh key on git.debian.org

2011-05-22 Thread Michael Meskes
On Sun, May 22, 2011 at 07:49:47PM +0800, Paul Wise wrote: > http://lists.debian.org/debian-devel-announce/2011/05/msg7.html > http://lists.debian.org/debian-devel-announce/2011/05/msg8.html > > Probably you should be subscribed to d-d-a and reading the list. In all fairness you should sa

Re: How to solve race condition between IPv6 ifup and start of services?

2011-05-22 Thread Marc Haber
On Sun, 22 May 2011 11:45:53 +0200, Goswin von Brederlow wrote: >Marc Haber writes: >> On Sun, 22 May 2011 00:29:35 +0200, Goswin von Brederlow >> wrote: >>>(c) Modify ifupdown to notice when additional IP addresses come up (or >>>go away) and run the ifup.d (ifdown.d) scripts for it. >> >> One

Re: How to solve race condition between IPv6 ifup and start of services?

2011-05-22 Thread Marc Haber
On Sun, 22 May 2011 13:41:22 +0200, Bjørn Mork wrote: >Marc Haber writes: >> On Sat, 21 May 2011 15:42:51 -0700, Steve Langasek >> wrote: >>>With an event-based init system such as upstart, you could also set up the >>>service not to start until the specified interface is fully configured. >> >>

Re: Conditional Recommends

2011-05-22 Thread Carsten Hey
* Goswin von Brederlow [2011-05-22 11:55 +0200]: > "Eugene V. Lyubimkin" writes: > > > On 2011-05-21 21:41, Ian Jackson wrote: > >> Simpler than this, and simpler than constructions involving negations > >> (which would be very troublesome for the resolution algorithms), would > >> be: > >> > >>

Re: Conditional Recommends

2011-05-22 Thread Eugene V. Lyubimkin
On 2011-05-22 16:07, Carsten Hey wrote: > > > Putting my 'developer of unpopular package manager' on: no, no, pretty > > > please, no reverse-Recommends. Firstly, one doesn't want to scan all > > > package database to find all Recommends for the particular package, > > 'Enhances:', 'Provides', 'C

Re: Conditional Recommends

2011-05-22 Thread Eugene V. Lyubimkin
> > > and secondly, this is easily abusable by third-package maintainers > > > and even packages from completely different, non-Debian > > > repositories: > > > > > > Package: some-package > > > Depends: gnome > > > Recommended-When: gnome > > Third-party repositories have root access on your syst

Re: Changed ssh key on git.debian.org

2011-05-22 Thread Klaus Ethgen
-BEGIN PGP SIGNED MESSAGE- Hash: SHA512 Hi, Am So den 22. Mai 2011 um 12:49 schrieb Paul Wise: > > I read something about changes on alioth but there was nothing mentioned > > about a changed ssh key. Today I tried to push some changes to geeqie > > and was warned that the ssh key of git.

Re: Using -Werror in CFLAGS for a debian package build

2011-05-22 Thread peter green
(note: this message quotes from multiple mails by different people) Wouter>First and foremost, I do not believe that setting -Werror in a Wouter>debian/rules file is the best way to maintain a package; -Werror is a Wouter>development option which should not be used in a release build (which a Wou

Re: How to solve race condition between IPv6 ifup and start of services?

2011-05-22 Thread Michael Biebl
Am 21.05.2011 20:49, schrieb Marc Haber: > On Sat, 21 May 2011 17:22:05 +0200, Michael Biebl > wrote: >> A similar issue (not directly IPv6 related) was discussed on fedora-devel not >> very long ago. It was about the more "dynamic" nature of NetworkManager and >> how >> certain services currentl

Re: Changed ssh key on git.debian.org

2011-05-22 Thread Jan Hauke Rahm
On Sun, May 22, 2011 at 02:24:30PM +0200, Michael Meskes wrote: > On Sun, May 22, 2011 at 07:49:47PM +0800, Paul Wise wrote: > > http://lists.debian.org/debian-devel-announce/2011/05/msg7.html > > http://lists.debian.org/debian-devel-announce/2011/05/msg8.html > > > > Probably you should b

Bug#627620: ITP: cityhash -- family of non-cryptographic hash functions for strings

2011-05-22 Thread Alessandro Ghedini
Package: wnpp Severity: wishlist Owner: Alessandro Ghedini * Package name: cityhash Version : 1.0.2 Upstream Author : Geoff Pike and Jyrki Alakuijala (Google, Inc.) * URL : http:code.google.com/p/cityhash/ * License : Expat Programming Lang: C++ Description

Re: Using -Werror in CFLAGS for a debian package build

2011-05-22 Thread Russ Allbery
peter green writes: > Is this really THAT big a deal? Is it really worth making dubious > changes to build dependencies (gcc in this case but a similar saga is > going on with dash) to temporarlly hide (and therefore make harder to > fix) FTBFS bugs that are usually trivial to fix in the package

bug reporting workflow is outdated

2011-05-22 Thread Pedro Larroy
Hi I think expecting having a working smtp on laptops, workstations, etc, is unreasonable these days. I suggest that we can make an HTTP based bug reporting method. Regards. -- Pedro Larroy Tovar   |    http://pedro.larroy.com/ -- To UNSUBSCRIBE, email to debian-devel-requ...@lists.debian.org

Re: bug reporting workflow is outdated

2011-05-22 Thread Arno Töll
-BEGIN PGP SIGNED MESSAGE- Hash: SHA1 Hi Pedro, On 22.05.2011 22:44, Pedro Larroy wrote: > I think expecting having a working smtp on laptops, workstations, etc, > is unreasonable these days. > I suggest that we can make an HTTP based bug reporting method. reportbug is able to use (and w

Re: bug reporting workflow is outdated

2011-05-22 Thread brian m. carlson
On Sun, May 22, 2011 at 10:44:35PM +0200, Pedro Larroy wrote: > I think expecting having a working smtp on laptops, workstations, etc, > is unreasonable these days. You don't have to have an MTA installed. You just have to have some MUA capable of accepting a premade message that can be edited by

Re: bug reporting workflow is outdated

2011-05-22 Thread Jon Dowland
On Sun, May 22, 2011 at 09:11:42PM +, brian m. carlson wrote: > > I suggest that we can make an HTTP based bug reporting method. > > I think that's a terrible idea. I do not want to constantly check a > website to see if I have new messages. Using an email-based method > means that someone w

Re: bug reporting workflow is outdated

2011-05-22 Thread Didier Raboud
Pedro Larroy wrote: > I think expecting having a working smtp on laptops, workstations, etc, > is unreasonable these days. > I suggest that we can make an HTTP based bug reporting method. While I disagree with your appreciation, I am sure that it would be technically feasible to code and deploy

Re: bug reporting workflow is outdated

2011-05-22 Thread Fernando Lemos
On Sun, May 22, 2011 at 6:25 PM, Didier Raboud wrote: >> I think expecting having a working smtp on laptops, workstations, etc, >> is unreasonable these days. >> I suggest that we can make an HTTP based bug reporting method. > > While I disagree with your appreciation, I am sure that it would be >

Re: Conditional Recommends

2011-05-22 Thread Philip Ashmore
On 21/05/11 12:24, Josselin Mouette wrote: Therefore, I’m wondering whether it would be possible to extend the syntax of Recommends to allow for conditional dependencies. For example, IANADD, however... In database terms you're talking about a separate table that stores N:N relationships, so

Re: Conditional Recommends

2011-05-22 Thread Goswin von Brederlow
"Eugene V. Lyubimkin" writes: >> > > and secondly, this is easily abusable by third-package maintainers >> > > and even packages from completely different, non-Debian >> > > repositories: >> > > >> > > Package: some-package >> > > Depends: gnome >> > > Recommended-When: gnome >> >> Third-party r

Re: Using -Werror in CFLAGS for a debian package build

2011-05-22 Thread Goswin von Brederlow
peter green writes: > (note: this message quotes from multiple mails by different people) > > Wouter>First and foremost, I do not believe that setting -Werror in a > Wouter>debian/rules file is the best way to maintain a package; -Werror is a > Wouter>development option which should not be used i

Re: bug reporting workflow is outdated

2011-05-22 Thread Goswin von Brederlow
Pedro Larroy writes: > Hi > > I think expecting having a working smtp on laptops, workstations, etc, > is unreasonable these days. And you don't. See docs or other mails. > I suggest that we can make an HTTP based bug reporting method. The only advantage of this would be for systems that firew

Bug#627633: ITP: libanyevent-xmpp-perl -- implementation of the XMPP Protocol

2011-05-22 Thread Jonas Smedegaard
Package: wnpp Severity: wishlist Owner: Jonas Smedegaard * Package name: libanyevent-xmpp-perl Version : 0.51 Upstream Author : Robin Redeker * URL : http://search.cpan.org/dist/AnyEvent-XMPP/ * License : Artistic or GPL-1+ Programming Lang: Perl Descripti

Re: bug reporting workflow is outdated

2011-05-22 Thread Paul Wise
On Mon, May 23, 2011 at 7:47 AM, Goswin von Brederlow wrote: > The only advantage of this would be for systems that firewall outgoing > mail conections but allow http or have a http proxy but no smarthost. There are a *lot* of ISPs that do this. My ISP does this so I have to send mail via SSH tu

Re: bug reporting workflow is outdated

2011-05-22 Thread Russell Coker
On Mon, 23 May 2011, Paul Wise wrote: > > The only advantage of this would be for systems that firewall outgoing > > mail conections but allow http or have a http proxy but no smarthost. > > There are a lot of ISPs that do this. My ISP does this so I have to > send mail via SSH tunnel or webmail.

Bug#627635: ITP: scantool -- OBD-II car diagnostic scanner

2011-05-22 Thread Kees Cook
Package: wnpp Severity: wishlist Owner: Kees Cook * Package name: scantool Version : 1.21 Upstream Author : ScanTool.net LLC * URL : http://www.scantool.net/scantool/downloads/diagnostic-software/ * License : GPL-2+ Programming Lang: C Description : O

Re: Conditional Recommends

2011-05-22 Thread Miles Bader
Josselin Mouette writes: > Package: A > Recommends: A-plugin-B {B} > APT would be made to install A-plugin-B by default, but only if B is > installed too. In addition, it would also have to install it while > pulling B if A is already here. It would be very nice! I've noticed man

Re: bug reporting workflow is outdated

2011-05-22 Thread Vincent Bernat
OoO En ce milieu de nuit étoilée du lundi 23 mai 2011, vers 03:42, Paul Wise disait : >> The only advantage of this would be for systems that firewall outgoing >> mail conections but allow http or have a http proxy but no smarthost. > There are a *lot* of ISPs that do this. My ISP does this so

Re: Using -Werror in CFLAGS for a debian package build

2011-05-22 Thread Simon McVittie
On Mon, 23 May 2011 at 01:44:03 +0200, Goswin von Brederlow wrote: > Or the reverse > > gcc -Wformat=error gcc -Wno-error -Wformat -Werror=format You might also be interested in m4/tp-compiler-warnings.m4 in telepathy-glib. Usage looks like this: TP_COMPILER_WARNINGS([ERROR_CFLAGS],