Re: Re: cdn.debian.net as a project service?

2011-03-16 Thread Paul Judd
Just wanted to point out as a user that the current system needs to work also as some isp offer free access mirrors or a mirror groups, ie partner isp's mirrors that are also part of `free usage`. -- To UNSUBSCRIBE, email to debian-devel-requ...@lists.debian.org with a subject of "unsubscribe".

Re: Best practice for cleaning autotools-generated files?

2011-03-16 Thread Niels Thykier
-BEGIN PGP SIGNED MESSAGE- Hash: SHA256 On 2011-03-15 23:55, Neil Williams wrote: > Using autotools with Debian native packages can be a real PITA and > source format 3.0 just gets it wrong mostly. Most other tools also get > it wrong, even svn-buildpackage. If I knew how to fix it reliabl

Re: Best practice for cleaning autotools-generated files?

2011-03-16 Thread sean finney
On Tue, Mar 15, 2011 at 10:29:57PM +, Marcin Owsiany wrote: > * maintain a whitelist of distributed files, and "rm" everything >else (apart from the debian directory) in the clean target. > >Since I use (or plan to use) git-buildpackage, I don't have a tarball >which could serve a

Re: Best practice for cleaning autotools-generated files?

2011-03-16 Thread Neil Williams
On Tue, 15 Mar 2011 23:35:59 + Ben Hutchings wrote: > On Tue, Mar 15, 2011 at 10:55:54PM +, Neil Williams wrote: > > Other tools, like svn-buildpackage, don't have this problem, via the > > mergeWithUpstream support and/or a ../tarballs/ directory. Not perfect > > but it works. > [...] >

Re: Best practice for cleaning autotools-generated files?

2011-03-16 Thread Bernhard R. Link
* Marcin Owsiany [110315 23:30]: > The current best practice for dealing with packages using GNU autotools > (as described in /usr/share/doc/autotools-dev/README.Debian.gz) is to > run autoreconf in a prerequisite of a build target, and to remove its > results in the clean target. Well, here I ne

Re: potential MBF: first alternate depends not available in main

2011-03-16 Thread Bernhard R. Link
* Goswin von Brederlow [110316 01:24]: > I disagree. If non-free has a superior implementation of a package and > the user has non-free configured then it should prefer the non-free > package. Superiority is always a question of what metrics you start with. Not being able to fix bugs because of m

Re: Best practice for cleaning autotools-generated files?

2011-03-16 Thread Ian Jackson
Marcin Owsiany writes ("Best practice for cleaning autotools-generated files?"): > The current best practice for dealing with packages using GNU autotools > (as described in /usr/share/doc/autotools-dev/README.Debian.gz) is to > run autoreconf in a prerequisite of a build target, and to remove its

Re: Transitional packages with conffiles

2011-03-16 Thread Ian Jackson
Goswin von Brederlow writes ("Transitional packages with conffiles"): > Looking into the cause we discovered that the problem is that > dhcp3-client is now a transitional package that pulls in > isc-dhcp-client. The new package expects its config files in /etc/dhcp > while the old had /etc/dhcp3/.

Re: Best practice for cleaning autotools-generated files?

2011-03-16 Thread Vincent Danjean
On 16/03/2011 14:59, Ian Jackson wrote: > Marcin Owsiany writes ("Best practice for cleaning autotools-generated > files?"): >> The current best practice for dealing with packages using GNU autotools >> (as described in /usr/share/doc/autotools-dev/README.Debian.gz) is to >> run autoreconf in a pr

Re: [buildd-tools-devel] re buildd's resolver and package's build deps

2011-03-16 Thread Roger Leigh
On Wed, Mar 16, 2011 at 01:07:19AM +0100, Goswin von Brederlow wrote: > Roger Leigh writes: > > > On Mon, Feb 28, 2011 at 03:36:47PM +0100, Wouter Verhelst wrote: > >> On Tue, Feb 22, 2011 at 05:08:18PM +, Roger Leigh wrote: > >> > On Mon, Feb 21, 2011 at 07:42:32PM -0600, Raphael Geissert wr

Re: Best practice for cleaning autotools-generated files?

2011-03-16 Thread Bastian Blank
On Tue, Mar 15, 2011 at 10:29:57PM +, Marcin Owsiany wrote: > The current best practice for dealing with packages using GNU autotools > (as described in /usr/share/doc/autotools-dev/README.Debian.gz) is to > run autoreconf in a prerequisite of a build target, and to remove its > results in the

Re: Best practice for cleaning autotools-generated files?

2011-03-16 Thread Bernhard R. Link
* Vincent Danjean [110316 15:48]: > Then, you need a way to patch them. There is lots of software where > you need to patch configure.ac and/or Makefile.am Having to patch something and having to patch nothing are two very different cases. It usually also make sense to think twice before patchin

Re: Best practice for cleaning autotools-generated files?

2011-03-16 Thread Ian Jackson
Vincent Danjean writes ("Re: Best practice for cleaning autotools-generated files?"): > On 16/03/2011 14:59, Ian Jackson wrote: > > I think this is bad advice. These files should be shipped in the > > source package. > > > > Doing that makes it much easier to build the package in unexpected >

Re: Best practice for cleaning autotools-generated files?

2011-03-16 Thread Michael Biebl
Am 16.03.2011 17:36, schrieb Ian Jackson: > Vincent Danjean writes ("Re: Best practice for cleaning autotools-generated > files?"): > >> So Makefile rules can then re-run auto* tools at build time and you >> lost the benefit you want to have. > > Makefile rules should not rerun auto* stuff at bu

Re: Mirror problems?

2011-03-16 Thread Henrique de Moraes Holschuh
On Tue, 15 Mar 2011, Julien Cristau wrote: > On Tue, Mar 15, 2011 at 17:52:31 +0100, Bernd Zeimetz wrote: > > And for packages you either have to do stable updates all the time, or > > add an additional repository, or use unstable on a server. Whatever you > > prefer. > > > Not to mention debian m

Re: Best practice for cleaning autotools-generated files?

2011-03-16 Thread Henrique de Moraes Holschuh
On Tue, 15 Mar 2011, Josue Abarca wrote: > What about?: > > From: /usr/share/doc/autotools-dev/README.Debian.gz > "Example autogen.sh and debian/rules files can be found in > /usr/share/doc/autotools-dev/examples. Do not use them as-is. Rather, > properly customize your own." And look at the dat

Re: Best practice for cleaning autotools-generated files?

2011-03-16 Thread Henrique de Moraes Holschuh
On Wed, 16 Mar 2011, Neil Williams wrote: > On Tue, 15 Mar 2011 23:35:59 + > Ben Hutchings wrote: > > On Tue, Mar 15, 2011 at 10:55:54PM +, Neil Williams wrote: > > > Other tools, like svn-buildpackage, don't have this problem, via the > > > mergeWithUpstream support and/or a ../tarballs/

Bug#618599: ITP: libreoffice-autocorrect-ar -- Autocorrect files for LibreOffice

2011-03-16 Thread Mohammed Sameer
Package: wnpp Severity: wishlist Owner: Mohammed Sameer * Package name: libreoffice-autocorrect-ar Version : 0.1 Upstream Author : Taha Zerrouki * URL : http://ghalatawi.sourceforge.net/ * License : GPL Description : Arabic autocorrect files for LibreOff

Re: Mirror problems?

2011-03-16 Thread Simon Paillard
On Tue, Mar 15, 2011 at 09:12:54PM +0100, Florian Lohoff wrote: > On Tue, Mar 15, 2011 at 04:05:59PM +0100, Bernd Zeimetz wrote: > > On 03/13/2011 05:53 PM, Hideki Yamane wrote: > > > On Sun, 13 Mar 2011 15:20:21 +0100 > > > David Kalnischkies wrote: > > >> Unfortunately many mirrors doesn't use t

InRelease file and mirror problems

2011-03-16 Thread Simon Paillard
On Sun, Mar 13, 2011 at 03:20:21PM +0100, David Kalnischkies wrote: > On Sun, Mar 13, 2011 at 13:32, Svante Signell > wrote: > > when apt-updating from ftp.se.debian.org i get the following Hash Sum > > mismatch failures: > > (it does not happen when using ftp.us.debian.org in sources.list) > >

Re: Transitional packages with conffiles

2011-03-16 Thread brian m. carlson
On Wed, Mar 16, 2011 at 02:01:37PM +, Ian Jackson wrote: > Well surely the question is: why are the files moved to a different > directory ? Why is the package renamed, even ? Do we need to be able > to co-install the old and new ISC DHCP clients ?! The original dhcp-client was version 2. d

Bug#618618: ITP: flamingo -- A Swing ribbon container for Java applications

2011-03-16 Thread Andrew Ross
Package: wnpp Severity: wishlist Owner: Andrew Ross * Package name: flamingo Version : 5.0 Upstream Author : Kirill Grouchnikov * URL : https://flamingo.dev.java.net/ * License : BSD Programming Lang: Java Description : A Swing ribbon container for Jav

Re: Best practice for cleaning autotools-generated files?

2011-03-16 Thread Paul Wise
On Thu, Mar 17, 2011 at 3:35 AM, Henrique de Moraes Holschuh wrote: > Well, I have been doing this, for a LONG time, to preserve my sanity when > working as upstream or in a native auto-tooled package: > > 1. No spawn from autotooling allowed in the VCS.  EVER.  .gitignore it >   away at once.  A