Re: How to make Debian more attractive for users, was: Re: The number of popcon.debian.org-submissions is falling

2010-07-22 Thread Jesús M. Navarro
Hi, Neil: On Thursday 22 July 2010 20:28:49 Neil Williams wrote: > On Thu, 22 Jul 2010 10:53:53 -0700 [..] > Removing packages from testing does not remove them from any existing > installation, so it's hard to see how the removal of packages which are > plainly not suitable for release in stable

Re: constantly usable testing

2010-07-22 Thread Joey Hess
Stefano Zacchiroli wrote: > Have you ever actually tried to call people to arms and *form* the CUT > team? No. But it's been 3 years, so please don't wait for me to do it. ;) -- see shy jo signature.asc Description: Digital signature

Re: How to make Debian more attractive for users, was: Re: The number of popcon.debian.org-submissions is falling

2010-07-22 Thread Jesús M. Navarro
Hi, Don: On Thursday 22 July 2010 23:51:10 Don Armstrong wrote: [...] > Testing's primary purpose is as a staging ground for the next release; > while it'd be nice to try to keep it working as a fully installable > version all of the time, progress to the next release is more > important than that

Re: teaching users how to submit good bug reports

2010-07-22 Thread brian m. carlson
On Fri, Jul 23, 2010 at 09:31:46AM +1000, Brian May wrote: > The days where every Linux computer has to have a working MTA are > gone, and typically tends to be very painful especially for > portable/laptop computers which may not have no single way to send > outgoing mail that is guaranteed to alw

Re: teaching users how to submit good bug reports

2010-07-22 Thread Brian May
On 23 July 2010 10:03, brian m. carlson wrote: > You can use "smtphost reportbug.debian.org" in the configuration file. > As for blocking direct outgoing SMTP connections: This is news for me. Is there any thoughts on making this the default? Based on what you say, it seems to use port 587 by de

Work-needing packages report for Jul 23, 2010

2010-07-22 Thread wnpp
The following is a listing of packages for which help has been requested through the WNPP (Work-Needing and Prospective Packages) system in the last week. Total number of orphaned packages: 608 (new: 0) Total number of packages offered up for adoption: 143 (new: 7) Total number of packages request

Re: How to make Debian more attractive for users, was: Re: The number of popcon.debian.org-submissions is falling

2010-07-22 Thread Steffen Möller
Hello, On 07/23/2010 02:03 AM, Jesús M. Navarro wrote: > On Thursday 22 July 2010 23:51:10 Don Armstrong wrote: > [...] >> Testing's primary purpose is as a staging ground for the next release; >> while it'd be nice to try to keep it working as a fully installable >> version all of the time, progre

Re: How to make Debian more attractive for users, was: Re: The number of popcon.debian.org-submissions is falling

2010-07-22 Thread Don Armstrong
On Fri, 23 Jul 2010, Jesús M. Navarro wrote: > On Thursday 22 July 2010 23:51:10 Don Armstrong wrote: > > Testing's primary purpose is as a staging ground for the next > > release; while it'd be nice to try to keep it working as a fully > > installable version all of the time, progress to the next

Re: teaching users how to submit good bug reports

2010-07-22 Thread Don Armstrong
On Fri, 23 Jul 2010, Brian May wrote: > On 23 July 2010 10:03, brian m. carlson wrote: > > You can use "smtphost reportbug.debian.org" in the configuration file. > > As for blocking direct outgoing SMTP connections: > > This is news for me. Is there any thoughts on making this the default? It is

Re: teaching users how to submit good bug reports

2010-07-22 Thread brian m. carlson
On Fri, Jul 23, 2010 at 10:26:47AM +1000, Brian May wrote: > On 23 July 2010 10:03, brian m. carlson wrote: > > You can use "smtphost reportbug.debian.org" in the configuration file. > > As for blocking direct outgoing SMTP connections: > > This is news for me. Is there any thoughts on making thi

Re: constantly usable testing

2010-07-22 Thread Joerg Jaspert
>> Have you ever actually tried to call people to arms and *form* the CUT >> team? > No. But it's been 3 years, so please don't wait for me to do it. ;) JFTR, with the great new machine ftpmaster got, we actually have the resources to run such a thing (archive wise, manpower is different). That i

Bug#590037: ITP: python-pyth -- Python library to convert marked-up text between different formats

2010-07-22 Thread Daniele Tricoli
Package: wnpp Severity: wishlist Owner: Daniele Tricoli * Package name: python-pyth Version : 0.5.5 Upstream Author : Brendon Hogger * URL : http://github.com/brendonh/pyth * License : MIT Programming Lang: Python Description : Python library to conver

Re: constantly usable testing

2010-07-22 Thread Andrei Popescu
On Jo, 22 iul 10, 22:51:32, Stefano Zacchiroli wrote: > On Thu, Jul 22, 2010 at 03:10:16PM -0400, Joey Hess wrote: > > I've noticed that linking to this page seems to kill threads, which is > > not my intent, but: http://kitenet.net/~joey/code/debian/cut/ > > > > The idea still seems reasonable to

Re: teaching users how to submit good bug reports

2010-07-22 Thread Andrei Popescu
On Vi, 23 iul 10, 02:51:36, brian m. carlson wrote: > On Fri, Jul 23, 2010 at 10:26:47AM +1000, Brian May wrote: > > On 23 July 2010 10:03, brian m. carlson > > wrote: > > > You can use "smtphost reportbug.debian.org" in the configuration file. > > > As for blocking direct outgoing SMTP connectio

Re: The number of popcon.debian.org-submissions is falling

2010-07-22 Thread Andrei Popescu
On Jo, 22 iul 10, 16:45:33, Raphael Geissert wrote: > > This one is very interesting, as it is the main contact point from our > users. The number of subscribers did not drop, but the traffic did (non > surprisingly, the number of subscribers increases when the traffic > decreases, and vice-ver

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