Quoting Eugene V. Lyubimkin ([EMAIL PROTECTED]):
> Should I mass-file the bugs or this situation can be resolved through
> different approach?
While you're technically right, apparently, I think that this issue
should be solved by a discussion to either adapt the policy wrt
current practice (fon
On Wed, Jul 16, 2008 at 01:54:50AM +0100, Ben Hutchings wrote:
> On Tue, Jul 15, 2008 at 05:22:55PM +0300, Pasi Kärkkäinen wrote:
>
> > Hopefully Jeremy Fitzhardinge (from Xensource) and others can get the
> > important Xen kernel features ported to pv_ops framework and integrated
> > into vanill
On Wed, 2008-07-16 at 11:12 +0300, Pasi Kärkkäinen wrote:
> On Wed, Jul 16, 2008 at 01:54:50AM +0100, Ben Hutchings wrote:
> > On Tue, Jul 15, 2008 at 05:22:55PM +0300, Pasi Kärkkäinen wrote:
> >
> > > Hopefully Jeremy Fitzhardinge (from Xensource) and others can get the
> > > important Xen kernel
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On Wed, 2008-07-16 at 11:42 +0300, Pasi Kärkkäinen wrote:
>
> I guess it was faster _now_, but they'll have to live with the forward
> porting pain for years more now..
While this is true, the patches still allow for Debian to ship Lenny
without a feature regression in Xen support.
William
Gunnar Wolf wrote:
>> The problem also appears for vserver kernel.
>
> It is currently in Sid [1], and it has been for some time already. It
> seems it will very soon reach Lenny [2] (In case status changes by the
> moment you check it: linux-2.6 is going in today (thanks to manual
> hinting by lu
On Wed, Jul 16, 2008 at 03:40:38AM -0500, William Pitcock wrote:
> On Wed, 2008-07-16 at 11:12 +0300, Pasi Kärkkäinen wrote:
> > On Wed, Jul 16, 2008 at 01:54:50AM +0100, Ben Hutchings wrote:
> > > On Tue, Jul 15, 2008 at 05:22:55PM +0300, Pasi Kärkkäinen wrote:
> > >
> > > > Hopefully Jeremy Fitz
On Wed, Jul 16, 2008 at 03:51:12AM -0500, William Pitcock wrote:
> Hi,
>
> On Wed, 2008-07-16 at 11:42 +0300, Pasi Kärkkäinen wrote:
> >
> > I guess it was faster _now_, but they'll have to live with the forward
> > porting pain for years more now..
>
> While this is true, the patches still allo
On Wed, 16 Jul 2008, Ben Hutchings wrote:
> On Tue, Jul 15, 2008 at 05:22:55PM +0300, Pasi Kärkkäinen wrote:
>
> > Hopefully Jeremy Fitzhardinge (from Xensource) and others can get the
> > important Xen kernel features ported to pv_ops framework and integrated
> > into vanilla linus kernels soon
I would like to ask why essential packages are not included on the first Debian
download cd/iso. I use Nvidia and Atheros wireless, but the packages
module-assistant, build essential, kernel headers, wireless-tools etc, are
needed for most other graphic, network driver and firmware installations
On Wed, Jul 16, 2008 at 10:50:22AM +0200, maximilian attems wrote:
> On Wed, 16 Jul 2008, Ben Hutchings wrote:
>
> > On Tue, Jul 15, 2008 at 05:22:55PM +0300, Pasi Kärkkäinen wrote:
> >
> > > Hopefully Jeremy Fitzhardinge (from Xensource) and others can get the
> > > important Xen kernel features
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Christian Perrier wrote:
> Quoting Eugene V. Lyubimkin ([EMAIL PROTECTED]):
>
>> Should I mass-file the bugs or this situation can be resolved through
>> different approach?
>
>
> While you're technically right, apparently, I think that this issue
>
On Wed, Jul 16, 2008 at 12:51:21PM +0300, Pasi Kärkkäinen wrote:
> On Wed, Jul 16, 2008 at 10:50:22AM +0200, maximilian attems wrote:
> > On Wed, 16 Jul 2008, Ben Hutchings wrote:
> >
> > > On Tue, Jul 15, 2008 at 05:22:55PM +0300, Pasi Kärkkäinen wrote:
> > >
> > > > Hopefully Jeremy Fitzharding
On Wed, 2008-07-16 at 12:51 +0300, Pasi Kärkkäinen wrote:
> On Wed, Jul 16, 2008 at 10:50:22AM +0200, maximilian attems wrote:
> > see relevant posts of Ian Campbell on d-kernel
> >
>
> You mean this?: http://lists.debian.org/debian-kernel/2008/07/msg00070.html
>
> I think the situation has chan
On Wed, Jul 16, 2008 at 12:35:09PM +0200, maximilian attems wrote:
> On Wed, Jul 16, 2008 at 12:51:21PM +0300, Pasi Kärkkäinen wrote:
> > On Wed, Jul 16, 2008 at 10:50:22AM +0200, maximilian attems wrote:
> > > On Wed, 16 Jul 2008, Ben Hutchings wrote:
> > >
> > > > On Tue, Jul 15, 2008 at 05:22:5
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On Wed, Jul 16, 2008 at 11:57:26AM +0100, Ian Campbell wrote:
> On Wed, 2008-07-16 at 12:51 +0300, Pasi Kärkkäinen wrote:
> > On Wed, Jul 16, 2008 at 10:50:22AM +0200, maximilian attems wrote:
> > > see relevant posts of Ian Campbell on d-kernel
> > >
> >
> > You mean this?: http://lists.debian.o
Le dimanche 13 juillet 2008 à 21:16 -0700, [EMAIL PROTECTED] a
écrit :
> 4) What are the preferred steps for registering a TrueType font in
> Debian? It is outside the X11 directory structure, and depends on the
> TrueType font server. GNOME recognizes a newly installed TrueType font
> but is the
On Wed, Jul 16, 2008 at 02:23:26PM +0300, Pasi Kärkkäinen wrote:
> Like said, this thread was started to discuss about possible options of
> getting xen dom0 support into lenny, and I pasted that git link to give a
> status update of pv_ops work happening atm.
current best guess is lenny+half.
h
On Wed, Jul 16, 2008 at 02:23:26PM +0300, Pasi Kärkkäinen wrote:
> On Wed, Jul 16, 2008 at 11:57:26AM +0100, Ian Campbell wrote:
> > On Wed, 2008-07-16 at 12:51 +0300, Pasi Kärkkäinen wrote:
> > > On Wed, Jul 16, 2008 at 10:50:22AM +0200, maximilian attems wrote:
> > > > see relevant posts of Ian C
On Wed, 2008-07-16 at 12:35 +0200, maximilian attems wrote:
> On Wed, Jul 16, 2008 at 12:51:21PM +0300, Pasi Kärkkäinen wrote:
> > On Wed, Jul 16, 2008 at 10:50:22AM +0200, maximilian attems wrote:
> > > On Wed, 16 Jul 2008, Ben Hutchings wrote:
> > >
> > > > On Tue, Jul 15, 2008 at 05:22:55PM +03
On Wed, 2008-07-16 at 14:11 +0200, maximilian attems wrote:
> On Wed, Jul 16, 2008 at 07:11:06AM -0500, William Pitcock wrote:
> >
> > Without dom0, lenny will be unusable for several installations of mine
> > which presently run an ugly combination of etch's dom0 and lenny's
> > kernel. I would l
On Wed, Jul 16, 2008 at 07:11:06AM -0500, William Pitcock wrote:
>
> Without dom0, lenny will be unusable for several installations of mine
> which presently run an ugly combination of etch's dom0 and lenny's
> kernel. I would like to do that in a different way.
>
> If we will not see dom0 in lin
On Wed, Jul 16, 2008 at 07:11:06AM -0500, William Pitcock wrote:
> On Wed, 2008-07-16 at 12:35 +0200, maximilian attems wrote:
> > On Wed, Jul 16, 2008 at 12:51:21PM +0300, Pasi Kärkkäinen wrote:
> > > On Wed, Jul 16, 2008 at 10:50:22AM +0200, maximilian attems wrote:
> > > > On Wed, 16 Jul 2008, B
Goswin von Brederlow dijo [Tue, Jul 15, 2008 at 11:10:30PM +0200]:
> > I don't think that any of the alternatives are valid candidates yet:
> > - Linux-Vserver, OpenVZ: clearly not the same use case.
> > - Virtualbox, qemu: poor performance under some workloads.
>
> Unusable for production work. E
On Wed, Jul 16, 2008 at 02:11:48PM +0200, maximilian attems wrote:
> On Wed, Jul 16, 2008 at 07:11:06AM -0500, William Pitcock wrote:
> >
> > Without dom0, lenny will be unusable for several installations of mine
> > which presently run an ugly combination of etch's dom0 and lenny's
> > kernel. I
Gunnar Wolf <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> writes:
> Goswin von Brederlow dijo [Tue, Jul 15, 2008 at 11:10:30PM +0200]:
>> > I don't think that any of the alternatives are valid candidates yet:
>> > - Linux-Vserver, OpenVZ: clearly not the same use case.
>> > - Virtualbox, qemu: poor performance under some w
Gunnar Wolf, le Wed 16 Jul 2008 07:42:37 -0500, a écrit :
> > I could live with the I/O slowdown but nothing will make hardware
> > magically appear.
>
> Please explain further on this. Do you mean that xen can run
> paravirtualized hosts without the hardware features (i.e. the lesser
> CPUs sold
On 15/07/2008 Joerg Jaspert wrote:
> I just did the requested switch, sysklogd/klogd are now priority extra,
> rsyslog (not its -mysql -pgsql packages) are now priority important.
>
> If something else, like Tasks or so, needs to be changed too: Whoever
> needs to do that please do it. Thanks.
th
> Original Message
> Subject: Re: font policy changes
> From: Josselin Mouette <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
> Date: Wed, July 16, 2008 4:20 am
> To: [EMAIL PROTECTED]
> Cc: debian-devel@lists.debian.org, [EMAIL PROTECTED]
>
> The font caches should be automatically updated as soon as you
On Wed, Jul 16, 2008 at 08:37:12 -0700, [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:
> Thank you. I can write a proposed addition to the Policy Manual for
> TrueType fonts after I'm done with the current package unless someone
> else wants to do it. The "update-fonts-dir" utility currently only
> handles fonts in t
On Wed, Jul 16, 2008 at 2:49 PM, Pasi Kärkkäinen <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:
>> > > See: http://wiki.xensource.com/xenwiki/XenParavirtOps
>> > > I think x86-64 xen patches are going in for 2.6.27..
>
> Lenny will not support 64bit, no dom0.. so basicly lenny can only be used as
> a 32bit domU .. unl
Hi,
[EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:
> They are free, do not take up space, but
> without them (on a wireless only computer) you hit a vicious circle;
> Needing internet to be able to get internet.
Avoiding the free vs. non-free firmware issue, most of these packages
are available on Debian CDs/DVDs, jus
On Wed, Jul 16, 2008 at 07:53:52PM +0300, Teodor wrote:
> On Wed, Jul 16, 2008 at 2:49 PM, Pasi Kärkkäinen <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:
> >> > > See: http://wiki.xensource.com/xenwiki/XenParavirtOps
> >> > > I think x86-64 xen patches are going in for 2.6.27..
> >
> > Lenny will not support 64bit, no
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On Wed, Jul 16, 2008 at 07:26:48PM +0200, maximilian attems wrote:
> On Wed, Jul 16, 2008 at 07:53:52PM +0300, Teodor wrote:
> > On Wed, Jul 16, 2008 at 2:49 PM, Pasi Kärkkäinen <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:
> > >> > > See: http://wiki.xensource.com/xenwiki/XenParavirtOps
> > >> > > I think x86-64 xen
Bastian Blank wrote:
> Xen got a often used technique in the last two years. All of the large
> distributions got some sort of support for it. Debian Etch have full
> support for it. There was several requests of various people so I think
> not providing at least a minimal support in Lenny is wrong
On Wed, Jul 16, 2008 at 09:44:00PM +0300, Pasi Kärkkäinen wrote:
> On Wed, Jul 16, 2008 at 07:26:48PM +0200, maximilian attems wrote:
> > On Wed, Jul 16, 2008 at 07:53:52PM +0300, Teodor wrote:
> > > On Wed, Jul 16, 2008 at 2:49 PM, Pasi Kärkkäinen <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
> > > wrote:
> > > >> > > See
On Wed, Jul 16, 2008 at 08:56:24PM +0200, maximilian attems wrote:
> On Wed, Jul 16, 2008 at 09:44:00PM +0300, Pasi Kärkkäinen wrote:
> > On Wed, Jul 16, 2008 at 07:26:48PM +0200, maximilian attems wrote:
> > > On Wed, Jul 16, 2008 at 07:53:52PM +0300, Teodor wrote:
> > > > On Wed, Jul 16, 2008 at
On Wed, 2008-07-16 at 00:45 +0200, Loïc Minier wrote:
> On Tue, Jul 15, 2008, Neil Williams wrote:
> > 1. gtk+2.0 fails to cross-build because the patches now try to build the
> > udeb which comes up against a bug in dpkg-cross. I've uploaded the
> > new version (including a couple of other bug fix
Hi, basically I am requesting module-assistant, build-essential and the
kernel headers for the default kernel on the first iso. These are basic
tools that are necessary to be able to install non-free, proprietary
packages such as madwifi, nvidia-drivers etc.
My main point is the wireless issue
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On Wed, Jul 16, 2008 at 09:53:24PM +0200, richs wrote:
I think that including headers, m-a and build essential would be a good
move for the developers. Other distros have out-of-the-box non-free and
proprietary apps/drivers/codecs, I would just like to see Debian offer a
complete base on tha
[Jonas Meurer]
> I believe that this switch should be documented in the release notes
> as well, shouldn't it?
Well, it doesn't affect upgrades. And for new installs, _all_ the
packages are new, so this falls under the case of Debian picking one
alternative of something as a default. I don't kn
On Wed, Jul 16, 2008 at 08:21:14PM +, brian m. carlson wrote:
> On Wed, Jul 16, 2008 at 09:53:24PM +0200, richs wrote:
>> I think that including headers, m-a and build essential would be a good
>> move for the developers. Other distros have out-of-the-box non-free
>> and proprietary apps/dr
richs wrote:
> Hi, basically I am requesting module-assistant, build-essential and the
> kernel headers for the default kernel on the first iso.
I really don't have a clue what you're going on about then.
If you check these pages, you'll see that all three package you name _are_
on the first CD
Hi,
I've packaged the new version of this library, the upstream author has
changed the SONAME, and so I've changed the name of the lib and -data
package, not changed the name of the -dev file because the old
maintainer has chosen to not version the package.
This is my first library package, and I'
In article <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> you wrote:
> Well, it doesn't affect upgrades. And for new installs, _all_ the
> packages are new, so this falls under the case of Debian picking one
> alternative of something as a default.
Well, if Debian defaults change long term users need to know - even for new
Hi Fjp:
I am surprised that the dependencies are on the image, as I have always
been met with problems trying to install build-essential from the first iso.
I will post the output from the terminal on my next fresh install of
Lenny and Etch.
I can assure you that on an http download i386 is
Hi,
On Wed, 2008-07-16 at 22:59 +0200, Francesco Namuri wrote:
> Hi,
> I've packaged the new version of this library, the upstream author has
> changed the SONAME, and so I've changed the name of the lib and -data
> package, not changed the name of the -dev file because the old
> maintainer has ch
Le Wed, Jul 16, 2008 at 08:21:14PM +, brian m. carlson a écrit :
>
> Non-free (and contrib) packages are not part of Debian and are therefore
> not shipped on Debian CDs or DVDs. I understand your frustration with
> not being able to use your wireless card out of the box; I have the same
> pr
Il giorno mer, 16/07/2008 alle 17.46 -0500, William Pitcock ha scritto:
> Hi,
>
> On Wed, 2008-07-16 at 22:59 +0200, Francesco Namuri wrote:
> > Hi,
> > I've packaged the new version of this library, the upstream author has
> > changed the SONAME, and so I've changed the name of the lib and -data
On Thu, 2008-07-17 at 00:57 +0200, Francesco Namuri wrote:
> Il giorno mer, 16/07/2008 alle 17.46 -0500, William Pitcock ha scritto:
> > Hi,
> >
> > On Wed, 2008-07-16 at 22:59 +0200, Francesco Namuri wrote:
> > > Hi,
> > > I've packaged the new version of this library, the upstream author has
> >
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On Wed, Jul 16, 2008 at 6:23 AM, Neil Williams <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:
> Work is ongoing to fold uClibc into Emdebian to reduce installation sizes
> further.
FYI, uclibc is no longer available in Debian sid/lenny.
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On Thursday 17 July 2008, richs wrote:
> I can assure you that on an http download i386 iso, m-a is not.
> http://atterer.net/jigdo/jigdo-search.php?q=module-assistant+_i386
You really need to check your facts better. If you use the links I
provided and just search the pages:
http://atterer.net/
On Thu, 2008-07-17 at 11:57 +0800, Paul Wise wrote:
> On Wed, Jul 16, 2008 at 6:23 AM, Neil Williams <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:
>
> > Work is ongoing to fold uClibc into Emdebian to reduce installation sizes
> > further.
>
> FYI, uclibc is no longer available in Debian sid/lenny.
uClibc will be
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